Rumour.....Dwight to Newcastle

ClaretTim · Post by **ClaretTim** » Sat Apr 11, 2020 10:00 pm

https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/f ... f-18075914

£35m not a bad value. He will be worth more if he stays a couple more seasons and we stay in the Premiership.

evensteadiereddie · Post by **evensteadiereddie** » Sat Apr 11, 2020 10:01 pm

As if.

ClaretTim · Post by **ClaretTim** » Sat Apr 11, 2020 10:03 pm

...and why has that posted twice

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Sat Apr 11, 2020 10:04 pm

A mate of mine who has a box at St James Park reckons the deal is done to take Dwight to Newcastle.

Aclaret · Post by **Aclaret** » Sat Apr 11, 2020 10:05 pm

Exactly....a rumour, there's plenty out there.

Sheedyclaret · Post by **Sheedyclaret** » Sat Apr 11, 2020 10:08 pm

If we sell to Newcastle for 35m we have had our pants pulled down..

Nonayforever · Post by **Nonayforever** » Sat Apr 11, 2020 10:09 pm

Mike Ashley shelling out £35m !!
Now that's got to be the worst rumour ever.

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Sat Apr 11, 2020 10:14 pm

He could practise with Billy the fish

Enty1974 · Post by **Enty1974** » Sat Apr 11, 2020 10:14 pm

They havent the money to spend

Aclaret · Post by **Aclaret** » Sat Apr 11, 2020 10:20 pm

Nonayforever wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 11, 2020 10:09 pm
Mike Ashley shelling out £35m !!
Now that's got to be the worst rumour ever.

He shelled out 40 million for Joelinton ! and he is dog shi*e

claretdj · Post by **claretdj** » Sat Apr 11, 2020 10:26 pm

2 words, Mike Ashley..

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sat Apr 11, 2020 10:27 pm

Burnley directors are not foolish.

Jamesy · Post by **Jamesy** » Sat Apr 11, 2020 10:37 pm

On the plus side his transfer fee will cover the wage bill for the lengthy period our players won’t have been playing.

LeadBelly · Post by **LeadBelly** » Sat Apr 11, 2020 10:40 pm

Just because the Geordies think Toon are a "big club" doesn't mean Dwight (or anybody else) believes it. McNeil will move to a proper big club if/when he leaves TM.

Iloveyoubrady · Post by **Iloveyoubrady** » Sat Apr 11, 2020 10:48 pm

He’s destined to end up at Utd for a lot more than £35M!!

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Sat Apr 11, 2020 10:52 pm

LeadBelly wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 11, 2020 10:40 pm
Just because the Geordies think Toon are a "big club" doesn't mean Dwight (or anybody else) believes it. McNeil will move to a proper big club if/when he leaves TM.

Yep i just looked at the league table,the Geordies are still below us,well i never.Dwight will move on one day,but he'll by eyeing up a serial top 6 team surely,not a fellow relegation rival.

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Sat Apr 11, 2020 10:58 pm

Could get Sam Clucas from Stoke at the fraction of the price and whist not as good as Dwight with Dyche's coaching he could easily fill his boots

Under Dyche its all about the team rather than the individual and £35m should give Dyche the funds to do what he does best and build a team to keep us in the top flight for a few more years to come

Grimsdale · Post by **Grimsdale** » Sat Apr 11, 2020 11:26 pm

Had to laugh at one report saying he'll provide competition for Allan Saint-Maximin, Miguel Almiron and Christian Atsu for the left midfield spot - I'm sure that will have Dwight desperate to sign on the dotted line.

Darnhill Claret · Post by **Darnhill Claret** » Sat Apr 11, 2020 11:55 pm

Never been a fan of Sam Clucas and at the moment IMHO he does not improve the squad. We have to do our best to find a replacement squad member with the potential to become our best midfielder, either established like our most recent signing or younger with potential, either from within, or from another club where his pathway into the first team seems to be blocked. Better still Dwight stays a while longer.

Darnhill Claret · Post by **Darnhill Claret** » Sat Apr 11, 2020 11:57 pm

I don’t believe Dwight would leave us for Newcastle.

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Sun Apr 12, 2020 12:17 am

he's become a player the shabby sports media occasionally mention, but when he goes from Burnley within the next 2 years, it will be for some club with pedigree, not the geordie void of nothingness.

ClaretLoup · Post by **ClaretLoup** » Sun Apr 12, 2020 7:21 am

Can’t see Dwight moving to Newcastle, however what is of concern if there is any truth in the article is that McNeil’s agent has alerted clubs as to his availability.

Stockbrokerbelt · Post by **Stockbrokerbelt** » Sun Apr 12, 2020 8:06 am

Dwight’ s advisors will be laughing at this one.

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Sun Apr 12, 2020 11:08 am

Would be furious if we allowed Dwight to go to Newcastle for £35m.

Firstly, they are a big club, but very badly run - a shambles. As a 20 year old, stability and playing time (without pressure) are key, and neither are guaranteed at Newcastle. It would be a very bad move for Dwight at this point in his career.

Secondly, if we allowed him to go anywhere for £35m we’ve been robbed. With goalkeepers and central defenders going for £75-80m, anything less than £60m for an attacking, 20yo British, left-sided midfielder would be robbery. Would our mid-table competition sell their best young players for any less?

Don’t have an issue with being a selling club, but we need to start being aggressive in securing the top prices for our best players.

Firthy · Post by **Firthy** » Sun Apr 12, 2020 11:23 am

What a load of crap, we all know he's going back to Man U

Dyched · Post by **Dyched** » Sun Apr 12, 2020 11:37 am

NewClaret wrote: ↑
Sun Apr 12, 2020 11:08 am
Would be furious if we allowed Dwight to go to Newcastle for £35m.

Firstly, they are a big club, but very badly run - a shambles. As a 20 year old, stability and playing time (without pressure) are key, and neither are guaranteed at Newcastle. It would be a very bad move for Dwight at this point in his career.

Secondly, if we allowed him to go anywhere for £35m we’ve been robbed. With goalkeepers and central defenders going for £75-80m, anything less than £60m for an attacking, 20yo British, left-sided midfielder would be robbery. Would our mid-table competition sell their best young players for any less?

Don’t have an issue with being a selling club, but we need to start being aggressive in securing the top prices for our best players.

There is no way a small (lets be honest here) club like Burnley will get £60m for Dwight McNeill. It just won’t happen.

SalisburyClaret · Post by **SalisburyClaret** » Sun Apr 12, 2020 11:37 am

A player who can run with ball is rare, a player who can beat other players and then use the ball well is very very rare and to buy such a player for £35m is rarer still

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Sun Apr 12, 2020 11:40 am

Keiran Trippier has sent him a message DON'T DO IT' the grass is not always greener on the other side of the fence... He was frozen out at Spuds with only 69 apps in 4 years .... only one good season.

"He told the Burnley Express: 'I'd say "don't rush anything, just keep playing" and Dwight is at the right club to do that. He just needs to keep playing games, because that's the most important thing for somebody his age'.

'He's got the right manager to guide him and he'll be in no rush to go anywhere. If I was him I'd stay put and keeping playing games."

Heres a song channeling the old Robin Hood TV theme.

"Dwight McNeill Dwight McNeill gliding down the wing.
Dwight McNeill Dwight McNeill the Burnley crowd sing.
Go Dwight Go
Cross for a goal
Dwight McNeill Dwight McNeill Dwight McNeill"

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Sun Apr 12, 2020 11:49 am

NewClaret wrote: ↑
Sun Apr 12, 2020 11:08 am

Don’t have an issue with being a selling club, but we need to start being aggressive in securing the top prices for our best players.

Most people think we've done will with our outgoings recently and the reported release fee for Tarkowski shows we are pretty aggressive.

Dy1geo · Post by **Dy1geo** » Sun Apr 12, 2020 11:59 am

I think this was written in January and has just come to print. The situation regarding transfers post Covid will be largely dependent on TV revenues and in my opinion we will see a reduction in values as clubs will look to shrink squads.

I think we have about 7 players out of contract in June with options in our favour to sign a few for another year. We may have given Lennon and perhaps Bardsley another contract, but now we may not or we they do it may be at a lot lower wage. We are assuming Hart will go but will we exercise options on Brady, Dunne and O’Neill and will they be at a reduced salary.

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Sun Apr 12, 2020 12:08 pm

Dyched wrote: ↑
Sun Apr 12, 2020 11:37 am
There is no way a small (lets be honest here) club like Burnley will get £60m for Dwight McNeill. It just won’t happen.

Why not?

Pre-Covid, accepting that will change the market, I think that’s his value. All you have to say to anyone offering less is “no”. That’s what other top clubs do when negotiating sales and there’s no reason we shouldn’t, just because we’re Burnley.

He’s British (premium), young (10 years at least at top level), a lot of experience for a player that age, left sided (rarer), can run with the ball, beat his man, whip a great cross in, score. And he’s on a long contract. Key is not wetting our pants at the first decent offer and holding out till he hits a real peak in form (at the moment, he’s playing well but needs to score more to hit the next level - he’s capable, if we don’t rush to sell him).

If we get relegated we lose about £60m in TV revenue. Hardly worth selling a player that can keep you in the Prem for much less than that, in my opinion.

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Sun Apr 12, 2020 12:14 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote: ↑
Sun Apr 12, 2020 11:49 am
Most people think we've done will with our outgoings recently and the reported release fee for Tarkowski shows we are pretty aggressive.

What’s Tarky’s release fee? Hadn’t heard that?

Don’t dispute we’ve done pretty well in recent history. Just think a few from the current crop have the potential to take that to the next level, and like everything at our club, we should be aiming to build on recent successes.

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Sun Apr 12, 2020 12:17 pm

If Dwight goes to Newcastle, I will show my arse in Woolworths.

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Sun Apr 12, 2020 12:20 pm

NewClaret wrote: ↑
Sun Apr 12, 2020 12:14 pm
What’s Tarky’s release fee? Hadn’t heard that?

Don’t dispute we’ve done pretty well in recent history. Just think a few from the current crop have the potential to take that to the next level, and like everything at our club, we should be aiming to build on recent successes.

Pretty sure £40m, or possibly even £50m was reported when Leicester were supposedly interested. Not sure it was ever confirmed as fact but it seemed to put them off.

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Sun Apr 12, 2020 12:41 pm

I watched a rerun of the last Spurs home game yesterday. Dwight was head and shoulders better than any body else playing. The thing I noticed was how hard he worked defensively and how much he has improved during the season. 35 mill would be a joke. Dwight might be just the best player I have ever seen in a Burnley shirt. And I have seen a lot. And he is still on 20.

Iloveyoubrady · Post by **Iloveyoubrady** » Sun Apr 12, 2020 12:42 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote: ↑
Sun Apr 12, 2020 12:20 pm
Pretty sure £40m, or possibly even £50m was reported when Leicester were supposedly interested. Not sure it was ever confirmed as fact but it seemed to put them off.

That’s going to be the going rate for tarks. Pope will be similar, and Dwight should be double £35M. No club in the world would sell Dwight, one of the best, most experienced under 21 players in the premier league for that.

bob-the-scutter · Post by **bob-the-scutter** » Sun Apr 12, 2020 1:33 pm

Bosscat wrote: ↑
Sun Apr 12, 2020 11:40 am

"Dwight McNeill Dwight McNeill gliding down the wing.
Dwight McNeill Dwight McNeill the Burnley crowd sing.
Go Dwight Go
Cross for a goal
Dwight McNeill Dwight McNeill Dwight McNeill"

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Sun Apr 12, 2020 1:40 pm

Bosscat wrote: ↑
Sun Apr 12, 2020 11:40 am
Heres a song channeling the old Robin Hood TV theme.

"Dwight McNeill Dwight McNeill gliding down the wing.
Dwight McNeill Dwight McNeill the Burnley crowd sing.
Go Dwight Go
Cross for a goal
Dwight McNeill Dwight McNeill Dwight McNeill"

Not one for messageboard songs but always thought the Fulham Scott Malone / Celtic Scott Sinclair song would be a good one for Dwight

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Sun Apr 12, 2020 1:40 pm

bob-the-scutter wrote: ↑
Sun Apr 12, 2020 1:33 pm

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Sun Apr 12, 2020 1:44 pm

Iloveyoubrady wrote: ↑
Sun Apr 12, 2020 12:42 pm
That’s going to be the going rate for tarks. Pope will be similar, and Dwight should be double £35M. No club in the world would sell Dwight, one of the best, most experienced under 21 players in the premier league for that.

Agreed.

And well invested, could push us on. Just hope we buy before we sell, as prices will increase if clubs know we have that sort of cash in the bank.

beddie · Post by **beddie** » Sun Apr 12, 2020 1:48 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑
Sun Apr 12, 2020 12:17 pm
If Dwight goes to Newcastle, I will show my arse in Woolworths.

Well I think we can all be certain thank goodness that we'll not have to look at Quickenthetempo's arse.

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Sun Apr 12, 2020 1:59 pm

beddie wrote: ↑
Sun Apr 12, 2020 1:48 pm
Well I think we can all be certain thank goodness that we'll not have to look at Quickenthetempo's arse.

Thank heaven for small mercies....

beddie · Post by **beddie** » Sun Apr 12, 2020 5:36 pm

ClaretTim wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 11, 2020 10:00 pm
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/f ... f-18075914

£35m not a bad value. He will be worth more if he stays a couple more seasons and we stay in the Premiership.

I assume th £35m is a down payment with the remaining £30m paid by instalments!

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Sun Apr 12, 2020 5:45 pm

beddie wrote: ↑
Sun Apr 12, 2020 5:36 pm
I assume th £35m is a down payment with the remaining £30m paid by instalments!

That’s more like it!

Paul Waine · Post by **Paul Waine** » Sun Apr 12, 2020 7:38 pm

Report just popped up on my news feed: justarsenal.com - "He remains a target of the Premier League's biggest sides and Arsenal is looking at bringing him in when the transfer window reopens." Rest of article is report of Tripps interview with Burnley Express "don't do it, Dwight." Stay at Burnley.

UTC

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Sun Apr 12, 2020 7:48 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑
Sun Apr 12, 2020 1:40 pm
Not one for messageboard songs but always thought the Fulham Scott Malone / Celtic Scott Sinclair song would be a good one for Dwight

To the Supertramp "Logical Song" music

Oh he's Dwight McNeill, he's so wonderful,
When he scores a goal,
Its so beautiful
It's magical,
When he runs down your wing,
He is fast as lightning,,
It's frightening and it makes the burnley sing,
Doh do doh dodo do doodododododo...
(Repeated...)

Is that what you meant DA

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Sun Apr 12, 2020 7:56 pm

Bosscat wrote: ↑
Sun Apr 12, 2020 7:48 pm
To the Supertramp "Logical Song" music

Oh he's Dwight McNeill, he's so wonderful,
When he scores a goal,
Its so beautiful
It's magical,
When he runs down your wing,
He is fast as lightning,,
It's frightening and it makes the burnley sing,
Doh do doh dodo do doodododododo...
(Repeated...)

Is that what you meant DA

Yep but id have the last line as makes all the lads/clarets sing. Reckon it would sound good if it got going properly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9X5XUmKBnE

Was working in West London watching the play offs last year with some Fulham fans. He was playing for Derby so they were messing around singing it and thought it sounded good and would work for Dwight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-xnaDDDDLM

Dinks · Post by **Dinks** » Sun Apr 12, 2020 8:39 pm

NewClaret wrote: ↑
Sun Apr 12, 2020 11:08 am
Would be furious if we allowed Dwight to go to Newcastle for £35m.

Firstly, they are a big club, but very badly run - a shambles. As a 20 year old, stability and playing time (without pressure) are key, and neither are guaranteed at Newcastle. It would be a very bad move for Dwight at this point in his career.

Secondly, if we allowed him to go anywhere for £35m we’ve been robbed. With goalkeepers and central defenders going for £75-80m, anything less than £60m for an attacking, 20yo British, left-sided midfielder would be robbery. Would our mid-table competition sell their best young players for any less?

Don’t have an issue with being a selling club, but we need to start being aggressive in securing the top prices for our best players.

A big club???? Big clubs win things, Dwight will not sign for them....end of.

LeadBelly · Post by **LeadBelly** » Sun Apr 12, 2020 9:35 pm

Dinks wrote: ↑
Sun Apr 12, 2020 8:39 pm
A big club???? Big clubs win things, Dwight will not sign for them....end of.

Agreed. It's a myth that Toon are a "big club". They were last champions of England in 1927. Sunderland have been champions more often and more recently.
Thety have just about nil chance of winning another top league title before the 100th anniversary of their last one.

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Mon Apr 13, 2020 9:22 am

Dinks wrote: ↑
Sun Apr 12, 2020 8:39 pm
A big club???? Big clubs win things, Dwight will not sign for them....end of.

Well, they’ve got a bigger fan base, stadium and likely budget than us, so they’re bigger in that respect - you can’t ignore that - but would agree there is more chance of him winning something here than there. Hope he does the sensible thing, stays, works hard and goes to a really big club when he moves.