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Re: Current Season Void Or Continue

Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Apr 21, 2020 10:56 pm

Continiod, Newcastle rumoured to be after him and his brother Voidinue for 200 million

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Re: Current Season Void Or Continue

Post by tiger76 » Tue Apr 21, 2020 11:07 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Tue Apr 21, 2020 10:56 pm
Continiod, Newcastle rumoured to be after him and his brother Voidinue for 200 million
Bleeding Saudi money ;)

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Re: Current Season Void Or Continue

Post by nil_desperandum » Tue Apr 21, 2020 11:52 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Tue Apr 21, 2020 10:31 pm
No prospect of any sporting events in Ireland anytime soon.

Major public gatherings of more than 5,000 people will remain banned in the Republic of Ireland until at least 1 September.

Large gatherings have been restricted since 24 March. The government said on Tuesday that local authorities had been advised not to consider licences for any such events.

It means no major sporting fixtures or concerts will take place in the country this summer.

They're our nearest neighbours,and they share a border with the UK, so it's likely we'll follow them closely.
Not that I disagree with your post, in fact I think you're most likely correct, but perhaps worth mentioning that the average attendance in the Irish Premier League is around 2,000, so that's less than half of that 5,000 figure. (Don't know if that's relevant or not, but I suspect that there will be relatively few sporting events or concerts over the summer in Ireland that normally get attendances over 5,000)

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Re: Current Season Void Or Continue

Post by tiger76 » Wed Apr 22, 2020 8:18 pm

UEFA determined to finish the season by the end of Augusthttps://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52386601

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Re: Current Season Void Or Continue

Post by CrosspoolClarets » Sat Apr 25, 2020 10:50 am

Something occurred to me this morning, which surprised me as a fan of European football and a critic of the club for going into it half hearted last time.

The one benefit of finishing the season to us has to be the chance of European qualification (OK, there are indirect benefits like TV money and the survival of the club, but you all get my gist).

But next season flights are going to be nervous places, holidays will be unlikely for 12 months, risk of infection will affect Premier League squad mentality (half the team coming down with Covid after a European trip will definitely affect the league).

So it begs the question, do we want it? Players or fans.

Next season the team can drive everywhere, as can we, domestically. I’m tempted to say Europe is a hassle too far.

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Re: Current Season Void Or Continue

Post by tim_noone » Sat Apr 25, 2020 11:08 am

CrosspoolClarets wrote:
Sat Apr 25, 2020 10:50 am
Something occurred to me this morning, which surprised me as a fan of European football and a critic of the club for going into it half hearted last time.

The one benefit of finishing the season to us has to be the chance of European qualification (OK, there are indirect benefits like TV money and the survival of the club, but you all get my gist).

But next season flights are going to be nervous places, holidays will be unlikely for 12 months, risk of infection will affect Premier League squad mentality (half the team coming down with Covid after a European trip will definitely affect the league).

So it begs the question, do we want it? Players or fans.

Next season the team can drive everywhere, as can we, domestically. I’m tempted to say Europe is a hassle too far.
I think European football will take a back seat for a good while yet. Irrespective of which team finishes in a "qualifying" position. It Would be like a throwback in time not that long ago when only a couple qualified from the top leagues for Europe. Also it could end the nonsense of the "elite" breaking away for Big Money.

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Re: Current Season Void Or Continue

Post by tiger76 » Sat Apr 25, 2020 11:09 am

They seem determined to get some footy up and running soon,European travel could remain an issue for sometime however.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/52413053

Germany will likely be the 1st to recommence,and they'll be eagerly watched by many,if they can manage to get closed doors going without major problems,that'll give other European nations confidence to restart.

It's the non-league clubs i worry for how many will be able to remain solvent until 2021.

In answer to your :?: CC i wouldn't want us involved in Europe next season,for starters we're likely to have a slim line squad,and we saw last time how draining the qualification rounds can be.Although there is talk of one-off matches to ease fixture congestion,but it's a long shot of us making the European spots anyway,so it won't be an issue we'll be burdened by.

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Re: Current Season Void Or Continue

Post by Spijed » Sat Apr 25, 2020 11:13 am

tiger76 wrote:
Sat Apr 25, 2020 11:09 am
They seem determined to get some footy up and running soon,European travel could remain an issue for sometime however.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/52413053

Germany will likely be the 1st to recommence,and they'll be eagerly watched by many,if they can manage to get closed doors going without major problems,that'll give other European nations confidence to restart.

It's the non-league clubs i worry for how many will be able to remain solvent until 2021.

In answer to your :?: CC i wouldn't want us involved in Europe next season,for starters we're likely to have a slim line squad,and we saw last time how draining the qualification rounds can be.Although there is talk of one-off matches to ease fixture congestion,but it's a long shot of us making the European spots anyway,so it won't be an issue we'll be burdened by.
Does beg the question why some leagues are finishing so soon when it's a rapidly moving situation.

Surely every country should wait at least until their current leagues were due to end, which is next month for most European leagues.

What benefit is there for the Dutch to finish now, instead of waiting another 3-4 weeks just to see how things change. They would have lost nothing had they waited and still come to the same conclusion as they did yesterday.

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Re: Current Season Void Or Continue

Post by jrgbfc » Sat Apr 25, 2020 11:30 am

The chances of us qualifying for Europe are pretty slim I'd say.

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Re: Current Season Void Or Continue

Post by tiger76 » Sat Apr 25, 2020 11:39 am

Spijed wrote:
Sat Apr 25, 2020 11:13 am
Does beg the question why some leagues are finishing so soon when it's a rapidly moving situation.

Surely every country should wait at least until their current leagues were due to end, which is next month for most European leagues.

What benefit is there for the Dutch to finish now, instead of waiting another 3-4 weeks just to see how things change. They would have lost nothing had they waited and still come to the same conclusion as they did yesterday.
Are the Belgian and Dutch leagues definitely ended,i thought UEFA had to ratify any decisions before they were binding,it does seem peculiar that some leagues are calling it a day,and yet others hope to continue in the near future.

There's also rumours of legal challenges in the Dutch case,which if they go ahead could muddy the waters even further.the whole situation is a mess,but it would be beneficial if European leagues acted in harmony,most leagues have roughly 8/9 fixtures remaining in their domestic campaigns,with mid-week slots it shouldn't be that hard to complete the season in 4 weeks max,once it resumes,you do wonder if some associations are jumping the gun.

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Re: Current Season Void Or Continue

Post by tiger76 » Sat Apr 25, 2020 11:44 am

jrgbfc wrote:
Sat Apr 25, 2020 11:30 am
The chances of us qualifying for Europe are pretty slim I'd say.
Yep our best chance was the teams around us having multiple comps to juggle,well we just concentrated on collecting league points,plus Spurs for one will be massively strengthened by their injured players returning.And we've also lost all our momentum we'd built up during that great run stemming from the Leicester win.

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Re: Current Season Void Or Continue

Post by Croydon Claret » Sat Apr 25, 2020 11:59 am

Continue. This is effectively the closed season right now. Resume when the time is right and just have a one week gap before the next season starts

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Re: Current Season Void Or Continue

Post by nil_desperandum » Sat Apr 25, 2020 12:23 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Sat Apr 25, 2020 11:39 am
Are the Belgian and Dutch leagues definitely ended,
In the case of Belgium they took the only decision that they could. It would be fairly ridiculous (IMO) to restart their season at some point in the future in order to play just one game. As for the rest of the Europe (including the Dutch), well, that's a far more complex issue as 99% of us agree.

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Re: Current Season Void Or Continue

Post by Spijed » Sat Apr 25, 2020 12:31 pm

nil_desperandum wrote:
Sat Apr 25, 2020 12:23 pm
In the case of Belgium they took the only decision that they could. It would be fairly ridiculous (IMO) to restart their season at some point in the future in order to play just one game. As for the rest of the Europe (including the Dutch), well, that's a far more complex issue as 99% of us agree.
It isn't just one game. They have a play-off system where all the top teams then play each other to see who ends up as Champions. It seems the points are cut in half and then the play-offs commence.

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Re: Current Season Void Or Continue

Post by nil_desperandum » Sat Apr 25, 2020 12:47 pm

Spijed wrote:
Sat Apr 25, 2020 12:31 pm
It isn't just one game. They have a play-off system where all the top teams then play each other to see who ends up as Champions. It seems the points are cut in half and then the play-offs commence.
I was aware of that, but still think that it was the best thing to do, since they have no need to have this play-off system. (It's almost like starting a new "mini league", so given all the uncertainties i don't think many will have an issue with this decision.)

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Re: Current Season Void Or Continue

Post by ChorltonCharlie » Sat Apr 25, 2020 12:52 pm

The two articles on the BCC Football site today both mention complications around the season restarting. From a UK point of view there’s no guarantees that behind closed door games will be allowed any time soon, if at all. The Europe situation is crazy when you read about the complexities that are now already in place based on UEFAs announcements for playing finals at the end of August when next years Champions League and Europa League should already have started.

Andy Holt’s tweet this morning with John Coleman’s worries about the current situation from a playing point of view is enlightening. Contract Jun 30th situation is already well known, but Coleman also talks about the finance behind clubs having to extend contracts for players they don’t want, what happens with loan players (who may not want to stay), medical issues around COVID 19 and training, and much more. It’s worth a read and it does call into question whether there is such a thing as sporting integrity when the current season has been so messed up by what’s going on at the moment.

People can put their fingers in the ears and go on sporting integrity as a reason why the season must finish, or use finances as a reason, but the reality is with every day that passes, finishing this season looks more unlikely. Health is the reason why football won’t come back imminently, and seasons need to be finished sooner rather than later other wise next season is well and truly stuffed and that would be the end for a lot of clubs.

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Re: Current Season Void Or Continue

Post by Rileybobs » Sat Apr 25, 2020 12:57 pm

Croydon Claret wrote:
Sat Apr 25, 2020 11:59 am
Continue. This is effectively the closed season right now. Resume when the time is right and just have a one week gap before the next season starts
I get the sentiment but logistically that’s impossible. Some team’s won’t even know what division they will be playing in, so a few week’s gap will be required between this season ending and the next one commencing.

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Re: Current Season Void Or Continue

Post by Spijed » Sat Apr 25, 2020 1:00 pm

ChorltonCharlie wrote:
Sat Apr 25, 2020 12:52 pm
The two articles on the BCC Football site today both mention complications around the season restarting. From a UK point of view there’s no guarantees that behind closed door games will be allowed any time soon, if at all. The Europe situation is crazy when you read about the complexities that are now already in place based on UEFAs announcements for playing finals at the end of August when next years Champions League and Europa League should already have started.

Andy Holt’s tweet this morning with John Coleman’s worries about the current situation from a playing point of view is enlightening. Contract Jun 30th situation is already well known, but Coleman also talks about the finance behind clubs having to extend contracts for players they don’t want, what happens with loan players (who may not want to stay), medical issues around COVID 19 and training, and much more. It’s worth a read and it does call into question whether there is such a thing as sporting integrity when the current season has been so messed up by what’s going on at the moment.

People can put their fingers in the ears and go on sporting integrity as a reason why the season must finish, or use finances as a reason, but the reality is with every day that passes, finishing this season looks more unlikely. Health is the reason why football won’t come back imminently, and seasons need to be finished sooner rather than later other wise next season is well and truly stuffed and that would be the end for a lot of clubs.
Let's face it, this idea that if we end the season now we can perhaps restart in August/September is simply pie in the sky. We will be no nearer making players safer than they already are for at least another 12-18 months until a vaccine is available.

End the season now and football won't be restarting for at least another year if it's purely based on medical and safety reasons.

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Re: Current Season Void Or Continue

Post by Dy1geo » Sat Apr 25, 2020 1:37 pm

Spijed wrote:
Sat Apr 25, 2020 11:13 am
Does beg the question why some leagues are finishing so soon when it's a rapidly moving situation.

Surely every country should wait at least until their current leagues were due to end, which is next month for most European leagues.

What benefit is there for the Dutch to finish now, instead of waiting another 3-4 weeks just to see how things change. They would have lost nothing had they waited and still come to the same conclusion as they did yesterday.
I think in the Dutch League case it was taken out of their hands as the Dutch Government banned sporting events even those behind closed doors until September

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Re: Current Season Void Or Continue

Post by Blackrod » Sat Apr 25, 2020 1:46 pm

This season needs to be completed even if it’s not the same squad of players imo. No point rushing to start a new season as nobody will be / or should be attending this side of Christmas.

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Re: Current Season Void Or Continue

Post by dsr » Sat Apr 25, 2020 2:56 pm

Spijed wrote:
Sat Apr 25, 2020 1:00 pm
Let's face it, this idea that if we end the season now we can perhaps restart in August/September is simply pie in the sky. We will be no nearer making players safer than they already are for at least another 12-18 months until a vaccine is available.

End the season now and football won't be restarting for at least another year if it's purely based on medical and safety reasons.
If this lockdown continues for more than a year than it will take more lives than it saves and it will utterly ruin the lives of at least 600,000 more people who will die without ever leaving their homes or seeing their families. It would be pointless running it for a year; it would be better for the health of the nation (even before you take into account the benefit to the NHS of having an economy that can pay for it) if lockdown ends fairly soon and we take our chances - especially as summer's coming, when the virus is supposedly at its weakest.

If footballers want to live their lives purely on the basis that they will not get coronavirus, then fine - furlough them all. Restart this time next year.
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Re: Current Season Void Or Continue

Post by tiger76 » Sat Apr 25, 2020 3:11 pm

Spijed wrote:
Sat Apr 25, 2020 1:00 pm
Let's face it, this idea that if we end the season now we can perhaps restart in August/September is simply pie in the sky. We will be no nearer making players safer than they already are for at least another 12-18 months until a vaccine is available.

End the season now and football won't be restarting for at least another year if it's purely based on medical and safety reasons.
At some point the country as a whole is going to have to slowly begin moving again,economically and socially,from a footballing POV,if there's no games for another year,how many clubs just in the Football League alone will still be a viable entity,and as the Bury demise illustrated,if the football club folds,it impacts the whole community emotionally and financially,it's not only the jobs lost directly related to the club,but all the local businesses,and suppliers who suffer as well,right down the chain.And in a lot of these communities the football clubs are the largest employer,or one of the largest,this is why it's devastating to communities,parallels can be drawn with the pit closures of the 1980's,many of those old mining areas are still struggling generations later.

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Re: Current Season Void Or Continue

Post by fanzone » Sat Apr 25, 2020 3:34 pm

Void - so clubs can plan for the future

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Re: Current Season Void Or Continue

Post by Spijed » Sat Apr 25, 2020 3:46 pm

fanzone wrote:
Sat Apr 25, 2020 3:34 pm
Void - so clubs can plan for the future
How can clubs plan for the future and in what way?

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Re: Current Season Void Or Continue

Post by Targetman » Sat Apr 25, 2020 3:52 pm

fanzone wrote:
Sat Apr 25, 2020 3:34 pm
Void - so clubs can plan for the future
Could you explain exactly what you mean by that?

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Re: Current Season Void Or Continue

Post by fanzone » Sat Apr 25, 2020 7:41 pm

Very simple. They don't have a clue if this season is going to continue. Thus meaning all finances are ifs and buts.

Cancel it take the fines/less payments and do the planning.

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Re: Current Season Void Or Continue

Post by Targetman » Sat Apr 25, 2020 9:04 pm

Simple eh??😀

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Re: Current Season Void Or Continue

Post by TVC15 » Sat Apr 25, 2020 9:08 pm

fanzone wrote:
Sat Apr 25, 2020 7:41 pm
Very simple. They don't have a clue if this season is going to continue. Thus meaning all finances are ifs and buts.

Cancel it take the fines/less payments and do the planning.
Planning for what ?

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Re: Current Season Void Or Continue

Post by dsr » Sat Apr 25, 2020 11:11 pm

fanzone wrote:
Sat Apr 25, 2020 3:34 pm
Void - so clubs can plan for the future
Are they planning for the future when the football season starts in August with full crowds present? If not, exactly what are they planning for? There's no point removing the uncertainty of the rest of the season just for the sake of it, when there is just as much uncertainty about what follows.
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Re: Current Season Void Or Continue

Post by tiger76 » Tue Apr 28, 2020 2:24 pm

UEFA setting a deadline?

European leagues have until 25 May to tell Uefa whether they want to complete or cancel their seasons.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/52456304

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Re: Current Season Void Or Continue

Post by quoonbeatz » Tue Apr 28, 2020 2:54 pm

I see the French league has been voided. In fairness, the French and dutch leagues are pretend leagues anyway.

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Re: Current Season Void Or Continue

Post by Dy1geo » Tue Apr 28, 2020 3:00 pm

Who will be next La Liga, Serie A or EPL?

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Re: Current Season Void Or Continue

Post by Spijed » Tue Apr 28, 2020 3:07 pm

I don't understand the logic of those countries saying football isn't possible until at least August/September.

If football isn't safe to play now behind close doors it certainly wont be any safer come August or September as there is no chance of any treatments/vaccines by then.

If it get cancelled now then I suspect we won't be seeing football for at least 18 months to 2 years.
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Re: Current Season Void Or Continue

Post by THEWELLERNUT70 » Thu Apr 30, 2020 5:32 pm

Well considering the PL are monitoring the German League situation, it has been revealed today that their planned resumption has been delayed further

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Re: Current Season Void Or Continue

Post by dsr » Fri May 01, 2020 12:19 am

Australian Rugby League is still looking at 28th May to restart.

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Re: Current Season Void Or Continue

Post by UnderSeige » Fri May 01, 2020 11:28 am

Latest BBC post says that players may be reluctant to return early to complete the season behind closed doors. Some of the main points of the article:
  • The Premier League is hoping to resume the season on 8 June.
  • Players are worried about infecting their families. Some have elderly relatives in their homes.
  • It looks like most games will not be free to view. The Premier League is only considering to show some games as free to air.
  • It is proposed that players will wear face masks during training and games. (Will these be in club colours? Could be a good example to the public).
  • Brighton striker Glenn Murray says wearing face masks, are "farcical. Players will be ripping them off in games." (This would be a bad example and could likely be a red card offence)
  • Training grounds will be optimised for social distancing.
  • All clubs are committed to completing the season.
  • Clubs are meeting today to discuss options for a restart.
  • Aguero said he and his team-mates, will be "quite nervous and extra careful" when they return to work.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52493894

A suggested chant for the remaining games (though nobody will hear it).

It's football Jim but not as we know it.
Not as we know it.
Not as we know it.
It's football Jim but not as we know it.
Not as we know it Jim.

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Re: Current Season Void Or Continue

Post by dsr » Fri May 01, 2020 11:49 am

UnderSeige wrote:
Fri May 01, 2020 11:28 am
Latest BBC post says that players may be reluctant to return early to complete the season behind closed doors. Some of the main points of the article:
  • The Premier League is hoping to resume the season on 8 June.
  • Players are worried about infecting their families. Some have elderly relatives in their homes.
That's not really a problem. Treat it the same way as they treat it with supermarkets - many of whose workers also have elderly relatives. Those footballers who are not willing to play because of the risk of coronavirus can go on furlough - preferably backdated to when they last played - and those who are willing to accept that they are no different from the rest of us, can carry on working while their elderly relatives self-isolate like ours have to.

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Re: Current Season Void Or Continue

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Fri May 01, 2020 11:51 am

Playing in a face mask isn’t really feasible is it.
They might get away with it in light training.

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Re: Current Season Void Or Continue

Post by nyclaret » Fri May 01, 2020 11:58 am

Playing a football match, let alone a Premier League football match, in a face mask is quite frankly... laughable.

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Re: Current Season Void Or Continue

Post by Spijed » Fri May 01, 2020 12:47 pm

Talks about resuming in Scotland:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52495654

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Re: Current Season Void Or Continue

Post by Spijed » Fri May 01, 2020 1:30 pm

From the Times:

Premier League clubs will vote at a potentially pivotal meeting next Thursday on how to press ahead with their plans to resume the season on June 8.

The 20 clubs will discuss at their fortnightly shareholders’ meeting today the possible rule changes required to complete the season, such as using neutral stadiums to stage the remaining 92 games behind closed doors.

It is believed that the government has suggested exploring the idea of keeping the location of specific matches out of the public domain for as long as possible to avoid supporters gathering outside the stadiums.

Richard Masters, the Premier League chief executive, has written to the clubs proposing a meeting on May 7 to coincide with the government’s formal review of the lockdown measures. A decision can then be taken on whether it is appropriate for players to return to full training on May 18.

Ensuring the season is completed by playing at neutral grounds has become a divisive issue among the top-flight clubs. Paul Barber, the chief executive of 15th-placed Brighton & Hove Albion, said that it was his club’s priority for their five home matches — against Arsenal, Manchester United, Liverpool, Manchester City and Newcastle United — to be played at the Amex Stadium.

“The season end is going to be imperfect and that will almost certainly be playing behind closed doors,” Barber said. “What we wouldn’t want is to have a further imperfection of having to play at a neutral venue. We would expect to play our home games at the Amex. That is a priority for us.

“If we were in a situation where it was felt necessary to lock players up for two months, that would suggest to me that the country is not safe and that wouldn’t make sense. It’s illogical. I wouldn’t want to get hung up on neutral venues as it is one part of the return protocol to consider.”

A number of other issues relating to the coronavirus pandemic will be voted on at the meeting next Thursday, including the use of five substitutes during matches. Top-flight football has been suspended since March 13 and Fifa, the world governing body, believes that the measure would help to manage players’ workload.

The Premier League had already warned clubs that it might not be possible to use their own stadiums, and on Wednesday the country’s most senior football policing officer, Deputy Chief Constable Mark Roberts, made it clear that using all 20 Premier League grounds was unlikely to happen.

“Common sense tells you that it might be easier to find sensible locations — typically not in a town centre — where it’ll be easier to get games on, maintain security of the venues without a disproportionate draw on the police and achieve the best fit on all of those,” he said.

The main concern, however, is player safety and only the government and the office of the chief medical officer can give assurances that players are not being made to take unnecessary risks by playing football when the rest of the country is being ordered to be social-distancing.

While next week’s meeting could also lead to clubs voting on any other matters that arise from the government briefing on May 7, a number of issues will be tackled today. There will be an update on the safety of players and the latest government guidance on testing for Covid-19, with as many as 100,000 testing kits required for the top four tiers of English professional football to complete the 2019-20 campaign.

There will also be a report on discussions with stakeholders and other leagues in Europe. In Germany, clubs are rolling out testing in the top two divisions before a planned return to action next month, either on May 16 or May 23, though German authorities will not make a decision on resuming the Bundesliga before next Wednesday. In France all major sporting events have been cancelled until September.

Barber added that football in England must judge the public mood before resuming. He said: “More than 26,000 people have lost their lives here and that concerns me. We want to return to football but don’t want to appear disrespectful or ignorant of what is happening to many families around the country.”

At today’s Premier League meeting clubs will be updated on discussions with broadcasters in the hope that a deal can be struck that avoids the need to pay a £762 million rebate if the season is curtailed.

The latest on playing and training protocols, as part of Project Restart, will be discussed. There is also a meeting today between medical officers and government officials as part of the discussions between a cross-sports working group and the Department of Culture, Media and Sport.

The scheduling of the 92 games will also be addressed, as will the concerns that remain over players and staff whose contracts expire on June 30.

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Re: Current Season Void Or Continue

Post by Rojales Claret » Fri May 01, 2020 2:24 pm

Another point that doesn't seem to have been mentioned is the last game of the season for everyone. Normally these would all kick off at the same time to avoid teams knowing what result they need (to avoid relegation for example). The last game of this season sees West Ham v Aston Villa. Normally we would see on screen (as it stands) as each goal goes in. But if games are not played at the same time they may already know what result is required if teams around them have already played their last games!

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Post by Elizabeth » Fri May 01, 2020 2:28 pm

I would love that to be the case and West Ham knowing that even if they scored 6, they would still be relegated

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Post by Dyched » Fri May 01, 2020 2:30 pm

What is actually the idea?

To choose neutral venues over normal venues? How many? Where?

Surely having 20 venues with a few visits from visiting sides is far better than say 5 venues hosting a **** load of games.

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Re: Current Season Void Or Continue

Post by Elizabeth » Fri May 01, 2020 2:31 pm

We might have a better idea after this afternoon's meeting

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Post by UnderSeige » Fri May 01, 2020 2:58 pm

Playing in face masks would be both essential and unfeasible.

I think back to a News interview with a doctor a couple of weeks ago. He said that working in a face mask is difficult and requires a rest every couple of hours. Does anyone have any experience of working in a face mask?

Footballers are running about and therefore breathing more heavily. They may find breathing difficult in a face mask - particularly if we have some hot weather in the summer. They would have to play the game at a much slower pace and would require a higher level of fitness. I could also see a lot of substitutions being made and perhaps more injuries.

Face masks are also likely to be lost in the rough and tumble of the match. Every time there is a corner there are likely be a lot of face masks scattered around the penalty area.

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Post by dsr » Fri May 01, 2020 3:16 pm

Why would a player who has been tested for coronavirus, playing with 21 others who have been tested for cornavirus, need to wear a face mask?

If they are wearing face masks in the house at home, then fair enough, carry on wearing them while playing football. Otherwise, what's the point?

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Re: Current Season Void Or Continue

Post by UnderSeige » Fri May 01, 2020 3:16 pm

Another point with 'behind closed doors pandemic football'.

What happens if a player tests positive to the virus at the next antigen test following a match? Will that player then need to be 'contact traced'? If so that would require the quarantine for 14 days of all players from his own team, the team they played in the previous match, the match officials, all players and staff on the benches and all their families.

The situation would then lead to the postponement of the fixtures for both teams for the next two weeks. If three or four players test positive from different teams at any one time, it would lead to a very complicated fixture muddle for the league as a whole.

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Re: Current Season Void Or Continue

Post by dsr » Fri May 01, 2020 3:19 pm

UnderSeige wrote:
Fri May 01, 2020 3:16 pm
Another point with 'behind closed doors pandemic football'.

What happens if a player tests positive to the virus at the next antigen test following a match? Will that player then need to be 'contact traced'? If so that would require the quarantine for 14 days of all players from his own team, the team they played in the previous match, the match officials, all players and staff on the benches and all their families.

The situation would then lead to the postponement of the fixtures for both teams for the next two weeks. If three or four players test positive from different teams at any one time, it would lead to a very complicated fixture muddle for the league as a whole.
You don't need 14 days quarantine if you have been tested.

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Re: Current Season Void Or Continue

Post by NewClaret » Fri May 01, 2020 3:31 pm

dsr wrote:
Fri May 01, 2020 3:19 pm
You don't need 14 days quarantine if you have been tested.
The simple question is: do you wait for it to be entirely safe before restarting football?

If the answer is to wait until it is entirely safe, you have to wait until there is a vaccine or a cure. Neither of which will happen soon, possibly ever (pessimistically). In this instance, players and their families will have to accept drastic, indefinite voluntary pay cuts.

If you accept it restarts before it is entirely safe to do so, the question becomes about what level of risk you accept and how you mitigate (not eliminate) the remaining risks. I expect, in another six weeks (the 08/06 proposal), risks will be much lower than they are now. But you could extend another month to July, if you want. Then you have to just manage the risks. There will be a million "what if's" - you just have to find an acceptable, if not ideal, protocol to manage them.

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