Kit contracts - Umbro & Lovebet

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Kit contracts - Umbro & Lovebet

Post by PremierLeagueClass » Thu Apr 16, 2020 8:41 am

I’m sure it’s already been mentioned at some point but what’s the situation with these contracts? Do they run up until June 30?

Would we play without a sponsor should games take place beyond this?

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Re: Kit contracts - Umbro & Lovebet

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Thu Apr 16, 2020 8:44 am

Aren't Umbro & Lovebet 3 year deals ?

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Re: Kit contracts - Umbro & Lovebet

Post by PremierLeagueClass » Thu Apr 16, 2020 8:47 am

We seem to have been switching shirt sponsors annually presumably to get the best deal. I assumed it would be the same with lovebet.

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Re: Kit contracts - Umbro & Lovebet

Post by nyclaret » Thu Apr 16, 2020 8:50 am

I really hope our deal with Lovebet is coming to an end sooner rather than later. So ugly.

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Re: Kit contracts - Umbro & Lovebet

Post by Enty1974 » Thu Apr 16, 2020 8:59 am

nyclaret wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 8:50 am
I really hope our deal with Lovebet is coming to an end sooner rather than later. So ugly.
Miles better than the laba 360

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Re: Kit contracts - Umbro & Lovebet

Post by Funkydrummer » Thu Apr 16, 2020 9:01 am

Enty1974 wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 8:59 am
Miles better than the laba 360
That's not saying a right lot. ;) ;)

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Post by nyclaret » Thu Apr 16, 2020 9:25 am

Enty1974 wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 8:59 am
Miles better than the laba 360
Are there no more options out there?!

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Re: Kit contracts - Umbro & Lovebet

Post by ŽižkovClaret » Thu Apr 16, 2020 9:35 am

Funkydrummer wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 9:31 am
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How much they offering?

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Re: Kit contracts - Umbro & Lovebet

Post by Funkydrummer » Thu Apr 16, 2020 9:37 am

ZizkovClaret wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 9:35 am
How much they offering?
Just your life. ;) ;)

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Post by ŽižkovClaret » Thu Apr 16, 2020 9:39 am

Funkydrummer wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 9:37 am
Just your life. ;) ;)
1) Nope, im well out of the UK, thankfully ha
2) Not sure our players will accept "zizkovclarets Life" as payment ;)

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Post by wilks_bfc » Thu Apr 16, 2020 9:45 am

PremierLeagueClass wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 8:47 am
We seem to have been switching shirt sponsors annually presumably to get the best deal. I assumed it would be the same with lovebet.
Laba360 & Lovebet are part of the same company

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Post by ClaretTony » Thu Apr 16, 2020 11:20 am

wilks_bfc wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 9:45 am
Laba360 & Lovebet are part of the same company
They are and I think I was told there would be another different name on the shirt, either next season or the season after, as part of this deal. The sooner we are able to move away from these companies the better. I'm sure, prior to the recent crisis, that would have happened with legislation brought in to restrict betting advertising. Now that's unlikely so we'll probably have to put up with it for a bit longer.

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Re: Kit contracts - Umbro & Lovebet

Post by burnmark » Thu Apr 16, 2020 11:21 am

I read a comparison article the other week on PL kit and shirt sponsors. Can’t remember the exact length of deals but we are with them for next season according to the article. I’m sure Umbro is at least a three year deal.

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Post by Millertime v1.7 » Thu Apr 16, 2020 11:24 am

Lads, lovebet and labia 360 are such low rent betting firms, surely you could get a better deal, no? Even Dafabet or Marathon Bet would be a step up.

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Post by cricketfieldclarets » Thu Apr 16, 2020 11:24 am

Hopefully at a time the club will need money more than any time since ITV digital I Hope we get the best possible deal. Gambling or otherwise.
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Post by burnmark » Thu Apr 16, 2020 11:40 am

Millertime v1.7 wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 11:24 am
Lads, lovebet and labia 360 are such low rent betting firms, surely you could get a better deal, no? Even Dafabet or Marathon Bet would be a step up.
They are paying us a lot more than Dafabet did.

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Post by burnmark » Thu Apr 16, 2020 11:43 am

Just found one article, it isn’t the same I referred to above though.

We apparently get 7.5m from Love Bet

https://www.statista.com/statistics/254 ... e-by-club/

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Re: Kit contracts - Umbro & Lovebet

Post by randomclaret2 » Thu Apr 16, 2020 11:44 am

Millertime v1.7 wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 11:24 am
Lads, lovebet and labia 360 are such low rent betting firms, surely you could get a better deal, no? Even Dafabet or Marathon Bet would be a step up.
Maybe go for a big global name, like Saltire Energy

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Post by dsr » Thu Apr 16, 2020 12:31 pm

PremierLeagueClass wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 8:41 am
I’m sure it’s already been mentioned at some point but what’s the situation with these contracts? Do they run up until June 30?

Would we play without a sponsor should games take place beyond this?
If we take the sponsor name off the shirts, we certainly have to pay back part of the money. If we keep the sponsor on the shirts, we probably keep the money.

I suspect we play with the sponsor name.

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Re: Kit contracts - Umbro & Lovebet

Post by IanMcL » Thu Apr 16, 2020 3:17 pm

There is nothing wrong with the shirts. Mine says, 'Cod & Chips', albeit in Chinese!

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Re: Kit contracts - Umbro & Lovebet

Post by TVC15 » Thu Apr 16, 2020 3:37 pm

Millertime v1.7 wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 11:24 am
Lads, lovebet and labia 360 are such low rent betting firms, surely you could get a better deal, no? Even Dafabet or Marathon Bet would be a step up.
I would rather not having betting firms sponsoring us but it is the way of the world as can be seen from the number of clubs in the same boat.
As for getting a better deal this current one is by some distance the biggest in the clubs history. Only just over 10 years ago we had Cooke Oils sponsoring us for £100,000 a year. Our current deal is 25 times that a year and they have I think agreed a 3 year deal.
Hardly matters whether they are a “low rent” betting firm if they are the ones who have offered the biggest deal

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Re: Kit contracts - Umbro & Lovebet

Post by groove » Fri Apr 17, 2020 8:19 am

I can accept the hideous gambling sponsors logos on our players shirts and understand the commercial reasons justifying it. But I think we should have the option of buying a sponsor free replica shirt. You're basically paying to be a walking billboard advertising these shoddy, unscrupulous gambling companies. I refuse to buy anything from the club shop that contains sponsorship.

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Re: Kit contracts - Umbro & Lovebet

Post by evensteadiereddie » Fri Apr 17, 2020 8:41 am

Quite an interesting one this; Nike were recently embroiled in a row with Liverpool as they are due to supply kit after June 30th, a good deal for them because, of course, the vast publicity generated by Liverpool's title win when the season finally ends would be superb for the company.
Liverpool's present kit supplier, New Balance, questioned this, quite reasonably, and won, the outcom being they will be allowed to supply - and publicise - their gear until the end of the season. Nike will have to wait.

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Re: Kit contracts - Umbro & Lovebet

Post by Claretforever » Fri Apr 17, 2020 8:51 am

I’m sure I read somewhere that the shirt deal is about £8m per season? Remember the days when we’d do a deal with P3 Computers for a new printer?

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Re: Kit contracts - Umbro & Lovebet

Post by ClaretTony » Fri Apr 17, 2020 8:53 am

groove wrote:
Fri Apr 17, 2020 8:19 am
I can accept the hideous gambling sponsors logos on our players shirts and understand the commercial reasons justifying it. But I think we should have the option of buying a sponsor free replica shirt. You're basically paying to be a walking billboard advertising these shoddy, unscrupulous gambling companies. I refuse to buy anything from the club shop that contains sponsorship.
And if they allowed that, unfortunately, the amount received from the gambling sponsors would reduce. They won't permit it as part of the contract we signed with them.
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Re: Kit contracts - Umbro & Lovebet

Post by NewClaret » Fri Apr 17, 2020 7:53 pm

Claretforever wrote:
Fri Apr 17, 2020 8:51 am
I’m sure I read somewhere that the shirt deal is about £8m per season? Remember the days when we’d do a deal with P3 Computers for a new printer?
£7.5m, I read.

I quite like the sponsor. My kids have the kits without the sponsor and I think it looks a bit bland. Generally think the Puma designs were better than the Umbro ones though, so hope they up their game next season... whenever that may be.

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Re: Kit contracts - Umbro & Lovebet

Post by IanMcL » Fri Apr 17, 2020 9:03 pm

£7.5m appears correct.


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