Happy St George's Day Everyone!

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 9:35 am

York Minster, E type Jag, Alan Turing, parliamentary democracy, Fish and Chips, the NHS, IK Brunel, Doctor Martins , Vivienne Westwood, Captain Tom Moore, Ale, Shakespeare, The Beatles, The Lake District, Winston Churchill, Adele, The Full English Breakfast, Isaac Newton, Blackpool Tower, Stan Laurel, The Yorkshire Dale's, Charles Darwin, Florence Nightingale, Stonehenge, Princess Diana, Stephen Hawking, David Bowie, The Tower of London, Boudica, Sausage and Mash, Eric Morecambe, John Peel, Charlie Chaplin, Boy George, Margaret Thatcher, Cornish Pasties, JRR Tolkien, Rosalind Franklin, Gold Hill Shaftesbury,
Horatio Nelson, The Suffragettes, Sean Dyche and Burnley Football club.

CleggHall · Post by **CleggHall** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 9:42 am

Shakespeare's birthday (and death day) too.

Im_not_Robbie_Blake · Post by **Im_not_Robbie_Blake** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 9:45 am

Carry on fighting the dragon everyone!

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 9:47 am

Or chasing the dragon.

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:32 am

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MrTopTier · Post by **MrTopTier** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 11:21 am

Why do the English have a Turkish fella as their patron saint?

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 11:23 am

Not only that he never even set foot in England.

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 11:32 am

MrTopTier wrote: ↑
Thu Apr 23, 2020 11:21 am
Why do the English have a Turkish fella as their patron saint?

Why do Portugal, Ethiopia and Lithuania too ? For us he represents Bravoury and Honour amongst other things and this has been the case since 1350. Good to see people celebrating being English.

MrTopTier · Post by **MrTopTier** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 11:33 am

Maybe that explains why they celebrate St Patrick’s day so much.

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 11:35 am

MrTopTier wrote: ↑
Thu Apr 23, 2020 11:21 am
Why do the English have a Turkish fella as their patron saint?

Because back in the middle ages he was seen as the personification of the ideals of Christian chivalry.

St George had been known in England since the 7th-8th centuries but his cult gained new impetus in England during the Crusades.

At the time we weren't the only people to adopt him as their patron saint and I dont think the origins really matters much over 500 years on.

Im not nationalistic and it washes over my head but if people want to celebrate their country and national identity then fair enough and as far as Im concerned I hope they enjoy celebrating their day

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 11:36 am

Not sure I understand people who have no connection to Ireland whatsoever celebrating St. Patrick’s Day. Always found it strange.

Volvoclaret · Post by **Volvoclaret** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 11:40 am

St Paddy was a Scot

Bfc · Post by **Bfc** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 11:46 am

Blackrod, maybe like it's their birthday.

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 11:55 am

MrTopTier wrote: ↑
Thu Apr 23, 2020 11:21 am
Why do the English have a Turkish fella as their patron saint?

OK who was Saint Andrew Patron Saint of Scotland and where did he come from....

https://www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/H ... -Scotland/

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 12:04 pm

A few more

The Tolpuddle Martyrs, Brian Clough, Jane Austin, Benjamin Britten, The 1970s Liverpool Team, The RAF, Tommy Cooper, Mo Farah, Geoege Orwell, The original Alex Issigonis Mini, The 99 ice cream, the England 1966 world cup Squad, The Smash ad Robots, Henry 8th, All those in the front line of the 2020 corona virus crisis, Monty Python, Led Zeppelin, Black adder 1, 2 ,3, goes forth, HM The Queen, Queen the band. Steve Redgrave, the Spitfire.

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 12:16 pm

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 12:50 pm

Blackrod wrote: ↑
Thu Apr 23, 2020 11:32 am
Why do Portugal, Ethiopia and Lithuania too ? For us he represents Bravoury and Honour amongst other things and this has been the case since 1350. Good to see people celebrating being English.

Sant Jordi day in Catalunya too!

According to my partner, women give a book to their man (it is book day, thanks to Shakespeare!!!) and men give their woman a rose or rose decoration.

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 12:54 pm

MrTopTier wrote: ↑
Thu Apr 23, 2020 11:21 am
Why do the English have a Turkish fella as their patron saint?

The Spanish celebrate Saint James... he was about as Spanish as Chop Suey .. what with him being born in Jerusalem.

Funny thing most Countries Patron Saints are nowt to do with their own country

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 1:11 pm

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Happy St George's day Clarets!!!

ClaretMov · Post by **ClaretMov** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 1:13 pm

RingoMcCartney wrote: ↑
Thu Apr 23, 2020 9:35 am
York Minster, E type Jag, Alan Turing, parliamentary democracy, Fish and Chips, the NHS, IK Brunel, Doctor Martins , Vivienne Westwood, Captain Tom Moore, Ale, Shakespeare, The Beatles, The Lake District, Winston Churchill, Adele, The Full English Breakfast, Isaac Newton, Blackpool Tower, Stan Laurel, The Yorkshire Dale's, Charles Darwin, Florence Nightingale, Stonehenge, Princess Diana, Stephen Hawking, David Bowie, The Tower of London, Boudica, Sausage and Mash, Eric Morecambe, John Peel, Charlie Chaplin, Boy George, Margaret Thatcher, Cornish Pasties, JRR Tolkien, Rosalind Franklin, Gold Hill Shaftesbury,
Horatio Nelson, The Suffragettes, Sean Dyche and Burnley Football club.

Doctor Martins founded by a German called Klaus Märtens, in Germany.

Klaus Märtens was a doctor in the German army during World War II.

He started the business in Seeshaupt, Germany, using discarded rubber from Luftwaffe airfields, by 1952 they opened another factory in Munich. In 1959 the company had grown large enough that Märtens looked at marketing the footwear internationally. Almost immediately, British shoe manufacturer R. Griggs Group Ltd. bought patent rights to manufacture the shoes in the United Kingdom.

The first Dr. Martens boots in the United Kingdom came out on 1 April 1960

Was once Britsh made yes and once a very britsh icon in the 60s and 70s but invented by a German in Germany.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 1:14 pm

ClaretMov wrote: ↑
Thu Apr 23, 2020 1:13 pm
Doctor Martins founded by a German called Klaus Märtens, in Germany

Just knew someone would find a hole in these lists

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 1:27 pm

ClaretMov wrote: ↑
Thu Apr 23, 2020 1:13 pm
Doctor Martins founded by a German called Klaus Märtens, in Germany

I did know that to be honest, but they are seen as and were first used as a fashion item in England, skinheads, punks, Bros and Morrissey and Tony Benn all made the association with England. And they were made in England to boot. Sorry.

I'll get me coat.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 1:46 pm

RingoMcCartney wrote: ↑
Thu Apr 23, 2020 1:27 pm
I did know that to be honest, but they are seen as and were first used as a fashion item in England, skinheads, punks, Bros and Morrissey and Tony Benn all made the association with England. And they were made in England to boot. Sorry. I'll get me coat.

I loved my Cherry reds in the 70s couldnt careless where they made them!

diamondpocket · Post by **diamondpocket** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 1:52 pm

Blackrod wrote: ↑
Thu Apr 23, 2020 11:36 am
Not sure I understand people who have no connection to Ireland whatsoever celebrating St. Patrick’s Day. Always found it strange.

surely it is just for commercial reasons.

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 1:53 pm

Steve1956 wrote: ↑
Thu Apr 23, 2020 1:46 pm
I loved my Cherry reds in the 70s couldnt careless where they made them!

Daaaaad! Your standing on my foot. Dick Emery to Roy Kinnear?

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 1:54 pm

tim_noone wrote: ↑
Thu Apr 23, 2020 1:53 pm
Daaaaad! Your standing on my foot. Dick Emery to Roy Kinnear?

I fink I've dan it wrong agayyn dad!

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 1:58 pm

Steve1956 wrote: ↑
Thu Apr 23, 2020 1:46 pm
I loved my Cherry reds in the 70s couldnt careless where they made them!

8 or 10 holes Steve?

I had a pair of red 10 holers in the 80s and they lasted for donkeys.

Must admit I preferred the look of Monkey boots and a mate of mine had a pair of them Major Domos which he got some right grief for.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 2:07 pm

RingoMcCartney wrote: ↑
Thu Apr 23, 2020 1:58 pm
8 or 10 holes Steve?

I had a pair of red 10 holers in the 80s and they lasted for donkeys.

Must admit I preferred the look of Monkey boots and a mate of mine had a pair of them Major Domos which he got some right grief for.

10
Levi's with turn ups and a two inch gap between the top of the boot and the turn up
Ben Sherman check
Black Harrington
For smarter days
Ben Sherman
Black crombie or braided blazer with red rose badge
Prince of Wales Checks
Brouges
Life was so much simpler then,I wish I had snaps of us though

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 2:23 pm

Steve1956 wrote: ↑
Thu Apr 23, 2020 2:07 pm
10
Levi's with turn ups and a two inch gap between the top of the boot and the turn up
Ben Sherman check
Black Harrington
For smarter days
Ben Sherman
Black crombie or braided blazer with red rose badge
Prince of Wales Checks
Brouges
Life was so much simpler then,I wish I had snaps of us though

Very nice. Style never goes out of fashion Steve.

Still have an Harrington now!

You didnt knock about with lad called Mick Nester did you by any chance? Sounds like your era and he'd be wearing all that clobber at the time.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 2:34 pm

Had a pair of white Skinners they must have been about 40 inch bottoms went well with cherry red docs,nearly blew you off your feet when it was windy though...

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 2:37 pm

Not know Mick Nessy then? Told me about "tiptoe through the Longside, with yer docs on, get yer head kicked in"

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 2:41 pm

RingoMcCartney wrote: ↑
Thu Apr 23, 2020 2:37 pm
Not know Mick Nessy then? Told me about "tiptoe through the Longside, with yer docs on, get yer head kicked in"

No...I'm from Rossendale the names not familiar....did you not live through that era Ringo I had you in your 70s...

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 2:49 pm

RingoMcCartney wrote: ↑
Thu Apr 23, 2020 2:23 pm
Very nice. Style never goes out of fashion Steve.

Still have an Harrington now!

You didnt knock about with lad called Mick Nester did you by any chance? Sounds like your era and he'd be wearing all that clobber at the time.

Knew mick nester well way back when and his late missus.....joe fergie and ann some great times Concorde ..white lion etc..plod john clarkson..

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 2:57 pm

Steve1956 wrote: ↑
Thu Apr 23, 2020 2:41 pm
No...I'm from Rossendale the names not familiar....did you not live through that era Ringo I had you in your 70s...

Steady on pal! You'll have me in me grave! no I'm a later vintage Steve. Thought you might have known him. I do remember seeing a lad of your era, who I know, Diddy Carter who's been home and away for years , in a pair of white skinners and 10 hole docs. Hes never been the tallest so his kecks weren't far off being shorts! Still thought he looked cool as feck at the time though! The Slade look eh!? Quailty.

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 3:01 pm

tim_noone wrote: ↑
Thu Apr 23, 2020 2:49 pm
Knew mick nester well way back when and his late missus.....joe fergie and ann some great times Concorde ..white lion etc..plod john clarkson..

Used to work with them both Tim and Joe's brother Ray. Alan Stubbs as well. Goes , well used to till it shut, int Bobbin.

Mick was a proper character. Had some tales to tell. Sound lads all of 'em.

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 3:06 pm

RingoMcCartney wrote: ↑
Thu Apr 23, 2020 3:01 pm
Used to work with them both Tim and Joe's brother Ray. Alan Stubbs as well. Goes , well used to till it shur, int Bobbin.

Mick was a proper character. Had some tales to tell. Sound lads all of 'em.

Alan Stubbs ??short dark hair..joe cook ..hasty tasty.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 3:20 pm

RingoMcCartney wrote: ↑
Thu Apr 23, 2020 1:58 pm
8 or 10 holes Steve?

I had a pair of red 10 holers in the 80s and they lasted for donkeys.

Must admit I preferred the look of Monkey boots and a mate of mine had a pair of them Major Domos which he got some right grief for.

More likely to be wearing these, these days Ringo with grey socks with a pattern on the side....on holiday in Benidorm
https://www.drmartens.com/uk/en_gb/p/25065600

Burnley1989 · Post by **Burnley1989** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 3:30 pm

RingoMcCartney wrote: ↑
Thu Apr 23, 2020 2:57 pm
Steady on pal! You'll have me in me grave! no I'm a later vintage Steve. Thought you might have known him. I do remember seeing a lad of your era, who I know, Diddy Carter who's been home and away for years , in a pair of white skinners and 10 hole docs. Hes never been the tallest so his kecks weren't far off being shorts! Still thought he looked cool as feck at the time though! The Slade look eh!? Quailty.

Diddy is an absolute gem of a bloke!

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 3:33 pm

tim_noone wrote: ↑
Thu Apr 23, 2020 3:06 pm
Alan Stubbs ??short dark hair..joe cook ..hasty tasty.

He probably did back in the day, but he's a bit thin on top these days. Still a fit lad for his age and looks after himself. Last time I saw Stubbsy to talk to, was in the Tim Bobbin I never usually go in . 3 days later it shut. Kiss o' death! And that was before lockdown!

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 3:37 pm

Burnley1989 wrote: ↑
Thu Apr 23, 2020 3:30 pm
Diddy is an absolute gem of a bloke!

Couldn't agree more! Cut his head off and itll say "Burnley F C " right through to the bottom. Now he was there in the dark days! Home and Away!

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 3:41 pm

RingoMcCartney wrote: ↑
Thu Apr 23, 2020 3:33 pm
He probably did back in the day, but he's a bit thin on top these days. Still a fit lad for his age and looks after himself. Last time I saw Stubbsy to talk to, was in the Tim Bobbin I never usually go in . 3 days later it shut. Kiss o' death! And that was before lockdown!

Ahh..Sean teaney and Alan Robert's old watering hole.

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 4:03 pm

tim_noone wrote: ↑
Thu Apr 23, 2020 3:41 pm
Ahh..Sean teaney and Alan Robert's old watering hole.

Dont know those lads to be honest Tim. I used to go Mullards more. Anyway, glad to give you a bit of a walk down memory lane pal.

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 4:06 pm

Steve1956 wrote: ↑
Thu Apr 23, 2020 3:20 pm
More likely to be wearing these, these days Ringo with grey socks with a pattern on the side....on holiday in Benidorm
https://www.drmartens.com/uk/en_gb/p/25065600

It's a bit niche but,

Its official !

Steve1956 the sharpest dressed lad from the The Valley in the 70s, still wearing his docs. In benidorm.

Burnley1989 · Post by **Burnley1989** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 4:09 pm

tim_noone wrote: ↑
Thu Apr 23, 2020 3:41 pm
Ahh..Sean teaney and Alan Robert's old watering hole.

Two more crackers there! I know Sean was very ill, haven’t seen him for about 3-4 months now, hope he’s hanging in there.

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 4:26 pm

Burnley1989 wrote: ↑
Thu Apr 23, 2020 4:09 pm
Two more crackers there! I know Sean was very ill, haven’t seen him for about 3-4 months now, hope he’s hanging in there.

He was ok last time I saw him....but his treatment could be an issue now possibly.

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 5:56 pm

Last lot till next time -

Charles Dickens, Oliver Read, The Rolling Stones, The victims of the Peterloo Massacre, Concorde, Ernest Shackleton, Emily Bronte, Steve Redgrave, Club 18 - 30, Guy Fawkes, Alan Partridge, Evita, The flying Scotsman, Les Dawson, Rolls Royce, Roger Bannister, The Middlesbrough Parmo, The Mersey Ferry, All those who have served and are serving their country, Pink Floyd, Stephen Fry, William Wilberforce, Cadburys chocolate, Keith Moon, James Bond 007.

And finally Rod Hull's Emu, but not Rod Hull, definitely not Rod Hull.!

For all its faults it's still, still a fine country with so much and so so many people to be proud of.

Happy St George's one and all!

durhamclaret · Post by **durhamclaret** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 6:56 pm

British born and bred
English by the grace of God
UTC!

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 7:08 pm

Soon be 8pm....

We are going to "Clap for the carers" followed by a Glass or two of some good old English Ale ...

Then raising our glasses waving the flag and crying out

"Cry God for Harry, England and St George"

(Good old Will Shakespeare on his Birth (and death) day ..... (St Swithins day speech from Henry V))

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randomclaret2 · Post by **randomclaret2** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 7:19 pm

The Henry V rallying cry would be best delivered from in front of the French car

dougcollins · Post by **dougcollins** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 7:32 pm

Re OP - who is Yorkshire Dale, and what has he got?