Robbie Blake - Undr the cosh

bodge · Post by **bodge** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 9:34 pm

Robbie was on this week for 20 mins or so, the episode is on you tube called "undr the cosh and friends".

There is a classic Stan tale, Robbie's bit starts at around 50 mins in.

beddie · Post by **beddie** » Fri Apr 24, 2020 5:53 pm

I found it difficult to understand what was being said in parts, having said that I'm a little deaf. What I did hear I found rather boring, especially when Blake said he was a Boro fan.

Yes the Stan bit was a laugh, how times have changed, imagine Blake under the stewardship of Dyche, thinking about it though he probably wouldn't get a game. He'll "always be a claret" though.

1989_claret · Post by **1989_claret** » Wed May 13, 2020 4:30 pm

Part 1 of their podcast with Robbie is now on YouTube. Robbie is one of my all time favourite Clarets but i think he comes across as a bit of a knob on this. Still looking forward to part 2 though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXyhJqWLl40

matttheclaret · Post by **matttheclaret** » Wed May 13, 2020 5:40 pm

1989_claret wrote: ↑
Wed May 13, 2020 4:30 pm
Part 1 of their podcast with Robbie is now on YouTube. Robbie is one of my all time favourite Clarets but i think he comes across as a bit of a knob on this. Still looking forward to part 2 though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXyhJqWLl40

Agreed.

Also, think his memory was a bit off for various games. I certainly don't remember coming from 2-0 down to draw 2-2 at Grimsby which he was talking about.

Dyched · Post by **Dyched** » Wed May 13, 2020 6:18 pm

1989_claret wrote: ↑
Wed May 13, 2020 4:30 pm
Part 1 of their podcast with Robbie is now on YouTube. Robbie is one of my all time favourite Clarets but i think he comes across as a bit of a knob on this. Still looking forward to part 2 though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXyhJqWLl40

Might give this a swerve then. I turned off the Glen Little when hearing him laughing about being caught speeding twice in one night.

burnmark · Post by **burnmark** » Wed May 13, 2020 6:28 pm

Dyched wrote: ↑
Wed May 13, 2020 6:18 pm
Might give this a swerve then. I turned off the Glen Little when hearing him laughing about being caught speeding twice in one night.

I wouldn’t recommend this then as he quite boastful of being caught drink driving the night before a game for Bradford.

Apart from this which was in poor taste (observe Brown’s reaction) it’s still a good listen but nowhere near as good as Little’s. Part of that is due to the virtual environment but as alluded to above I think there’s quite a bit of incorrect information.

bodge · Post by **bodge** » Wed May 13, 2020 6:32 pm

An interesting bit of info was that Bradford turned down a cash up front bid of £4m from Roverrrrrs, he was then sold to us for £1.2m a year or so later.

beddie · Post by **beddie** » Wed May 13, 2020 9:50 pm

bodge wrote: ↑
Wed May 13, 2020 6:32 pm
An interesting bit of info was that Bradford turned down a cash up front bid of £4m from Roverrrrrs, he was then sold to us for £1.2m a year or so later.

it's weird how Bradford turned that figure down and wasn't it whilst he was on loan at Forest at the time or did I make that up?

1989_claret · Post by **1989_claret** » Wed May 13, 2020 9:54 pm

Think he went to Forest on loan a season later and they couldn’t afford to keep him.

Be interesting to see what he says about Cotterill, Coyle and Laws in the second part.

diamondpocket · Post by **diamondpocket** » Thu May 14, 2020 12:07 pm

i thought it was all pretty funny and plenty of good stories in there. I love the fact they are all getting a little ****** and drinking as the episode goes on; funny, light entertainment. I knew Stan was a bit odd but it's really coming out how much of a fruitcake he really was. Look forward to part 2

1989_claret · Post by **1989_claret** » Tue May 19, 2020 9:28 am

Part 2 has been uploaded this morning and it’s a biggie at two hours long.

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Tue May 19, 2020 10:34 am

Half way through. Absolutely slaughters Kevin Blackwell who was his manger at Leeds but then he gets to Brian Laws who he says made Kevin Blackwell look like Trapatoni!

1989_claret · Post by **1989_claret** » Tue May 19, 2020 10:43 am

Not one footballer seems to have a good word to say about Kevin Blackwell.

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Tue May 19, 2020 12:13 pm

Interesting comments on his move to Bolton. Says Brendan Flood offered him a new contract but he told Flood that he couldn’t stay while Laws was manager. Went to Bolton for not much more money, didn’t really want to leave the club as it felt like home.

Laws was telling the board that Blake was injured when he wasn’t because he didn’t want to play him, not his type of player. Revealed he also left at half time in that infamous Man City home game where Kev McDonald ended up at the pub but he slipped out and went home and Laws never noticed.

Bfcboyo · Post by **Bfcboyo** » Tue May 19, 2020 8:38 pm

Summed up the Brian Laws appointment 100%

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Tue May 19, 2020 8:46 pm

The red wine looked like it was kicking in towards the end, what with his emotional ranting.

Bfcboyo · Post by **Bfcboyo** » Tue May 19, 2020 8:57 pm

Bin Ont Turf wrote: ↑
Tue May 19, 2020 8:46 pm
The red wine looked like it was kicking in towards the end, what with his emotional ranting.

Said what everybody thought re.Laws

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Tue May 19, 2020 9:06 pm

Bfcboyo wrote: ↑
Tue May 19, 2020 8:57 pm
Said what everybody thought re.Laws

I was talking about further along in the interview than that.

Anyway, I don't think he covered himself in glory the way he spoke about Laws and Blackwell.

Flying Without Ings · Post by **Flying Without Ings** » Tue May 19, 2020 9:21 pm

Bin Ont Turf wrote: ↑
Tue May 19, 2020 9:06 pm
I was talking about further along in the interview than that.

Anyway, I don't think he covered himself in glory the way he spoke about Laws and Blackwell.

I've listened to quite a few of these podcasts from different ex-players and all of them have the same very poor opinion of Blackwell if they had come across him or played under him.

In respect of Laws, Blake pretty much said he was out his depth, which lets face it, wasn't untrue was it?

Thought he came across an honest chap that has genuine love for Burnley. Glad he overcame his gambling addiction and is back enjoying life.

superdimitri · Post by **superdimitri** » Wed May 20, 2020 4:51 am

What I liked about the interview is how he was complimentary about lots of others players.

But he certainly was never short of self confidence and probably was even more full of it when he was younger. Probably a difficult player to manage.

Interesting what he said about Mark Davies though, never would have guessed he's the best player he played with, also shows how unlucky you can get in your career. If he moved to Chelsea he'd probably be set for life.

UpTheClaretsFCBK · Post by **UpTheClaretsFCBK** » Wed May 20, 2020 5:21 am

Wasn't the best, some of the stuff he said came across quite harsh.

But, at least it was honest.

Burnley1989 · Post by **Burnley1989** » Wed May 20, 2020 8:01 am

I loved Robbie Blake but I can imagine he's the type that can become a bad egg in the camp. This interview confirms that for me, whilst I did enjoy it.

I've had bosses I've disliked but I would never slag them off to that extent once I left the job, I just find it unprofessional and it generally says more about you than them.

beddie · Post by **beddie** » Wed May 20, 2020 10:36 am

Burnley1989 wrote: ↑
Wed May 20, 2020 8:01 am
I loved Robbie Blake but I can imagine he's the type that can become a bad egg in the camp. This interview confirms that for me, whilst I did enjoy it."

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I'm not sure how you can surmise that. I'm sure there were several team mates that liked a drink and a gamble and had opinions, then you get the dedicated professional on and off the pitch, Caldwell and Alexander being prime examples.
I think he may have been right though about looking after himself better, perhaps then he could have gone on to better things. I'm sure the death of his father when Robbie was only 21 didn't help, losing that father figure can send you off the rails somewhat, I lost mine at 16 and it was very hard to take at the time so i understand what he means. At least he sounded honest with his own opinions and I'll always be grateful to him for the time he was with us.

SammyBoy · Post by **SammyBoy** » Wed May 20, 2020 10:48 am

Clarke Carlisle said similar about Laws, but he was a bit less harsh in the way he went about it.

superdimitri · Post by **superdimitri** » Wed May 20, 2020 12:16 pm

Can you imagine what he must have thought of himself back then if he comes across cocky now? Would have been a nightmare to manage when things went wrong. Probably needed a manager like Stan to keep him at bay.

I'm glad he's put the worse behind him now but I think he could be a little more humble talking about his past. Yes losing your Dad so young is awful as is being addicted to gambling but he talks about it like it was just normal and almost like it was no fault of his own. I don't think it's good to make any excuses for something you knowingly put yourself into, especially when he was in a position unlike many to seek professional help.

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Wed May 20, 2020 12:21 pm

superdimitri wrote: ↑
Wed May 20, 2020 12:16 pm
Can you imagine what he must have thought of himself back then if he comes across cocky now? Would have been a nightmare to manage when things went wrong. Probably needed a manager like Stan to keep him at bay.

I'm glad he's put the worse behind him now but I think he could be a little more humble talking about his past. Yes losing your Dad so young is awful as is being addicted to gambling but he talks about it like it was just normal and almost like it was no fault of his own. I don't think it's good to make any excuses for something you knowingly put yourself into, especially when he was in a position unlike many to seek professional help.

I don’t think he was making excuses, just saying he thinks his dad would have put him back on the straight and narrow. He shows regret for how he was wishing he’d done things differently.

dushanbe · Post by **dushanbe** » Wed May 20, 2020 12:33 pm

Burnley1989 wrote: ↑
Wed May 20, 2020 8:01 am
I loved Robbie Blake but I can imagine he's the type that can become a bad egg in the camp. This interview confirms that for me, whilst I did enjoy it.

I've had bosses I've disliked but I would never slag them off to that extent once I left the job, I just find it unprofessional and it generally says more about you than them.

I think theres a big difference between having a boss you dislike and having one, in the case of Blackwell, who seemingly tried to make your life as difficult as possible. I don't think Blake spoke out of turn at all, why sugar coat it?

superdimitri · Post by **superdimitri** » Wed May 20, 2020 12:35 pm

martin_p wrote: ↑
Wed May 20, 2020 12:21 pm
I don’t think he was making excuses, just saying he thinks his dad would have put him back on the straight and narrow. He shows regret for how he was wishing he’d done things differently.

Any regret he did show, which to me seemed pretty minimal was only based on him going further in his career and not related those who worked with him or for the clubs he 'loved'. He went as far as saying it was his fault he was crap when he moved late career to Doncaster but also seemed quick to mention that the lads 'like you guys' wouldn't mind.

Gotta remember the kind of money he was earning from these contracts... Even when he was sidelined by Laws he would be getting paid and it's easy to say now he was sidelined by him through injury, what was probably closer to the truth is he wasn't fit enough by that point to play.

matttheclaret · Post by **matttheclaret** » Wed May 20, 2020 1:19 pm

A big favourite of mine, but I wouldn't say he comes off particularly well in either part. Wasn't as good a watch/listen as the Glen Little ones, though to be fair, that's probably expected given the circumstances at the moment.

Plus, I think he either misremembers a lot, or the wine was kicking in for a lot of it. The Man City game he claims to have set up our goal, when he'd actually already been substituted. He seemed to think the Watford QF in 2003 was a replay after drawing at the Turf, and I certainly don't recall an FA cup tie at Walsall whilst Blake was at the club which he was talking about at one point.

Does make you wonder just how much else he was getting wrong in his stories.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Wed May 20, 2020 11:31 pm

Bfcboyo wrote: ↑
Tue May 19, 2020 8:57 pm
Said what everybody thought re.Laws

Not everyone, you still get posters defending Laws on here

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Wed May 20, 2020 11:32 pm

matttheclaret wrote: ↑
Wed May 20, 2020 1:19 pm
A big favourite of mine, but I wouldn't say he comes off particularly well in either part. Wasn't as good a watch/listen as the Glen Little ones, though to be fair, that's probably expected given the circumstances at the moment.

Plus, I think he either misremembers a lot, or the wine was kicking in for a lot of it. The Man City game he claims to have set up our goal, when he'd actually already been substituted. He seemed to think the Watford QF in 2003 was a replay after drawing at the Turf, and I certainly don't recall an FA cup tie at Walsall whilst Blake was at the club which he was talking about at one point.

Does make you wonder just how much else he was getting wrong in his stories.

There’s a difference to getting stats wrong and having an opinion about someone ,at least he’s honest

Bfcboyo · Post by **Bfcboyo** » Wed May 20, 2020 11:34 pm

joey13 wrote: ↑
Wed May 20, 2020 11:31 pm
Not everyone, you still get posters defending Laws on here

There were many on the original forum. I think they move as a hive.

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Thu May 21, 2020 1:06 pm

these things are always subjective. as fans we hear things, then years down the line we get stuff like this. maybe some things are best kept in house.
just makes me squirm a bit hearing vitriolic comments about fellow pro's when they cant defend themselves.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Thu May 21, 2020 1:08 pm

Wile E Coyote wrote: ↑
Thu May 21, 2020 1:06 pm
these things are always subjective. as fans we hear things, then years down the line we get stuff like this. maybe some things are best kept in house.
just makes me squirm a bit hearing vitriolic comments about fellow pro's when they cant defend themselves.

Robbie only confirmed what we knew particularly about Laws

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Thu May 21, 2020 1:39 pm

joey13 wrote: ↑
Thu May 21, 2020 1:08 pm
Robbie only confirmed what we knew particularly about Laws

joey, if I worked with you several years ago and was asked to give my views and they were less than complimentary, I'm sure you would feel the bias was unjustified.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Thu May 21, 2020 4:10 pm

Wile E Coyote wrote: ↑
Thu May 21, 2020 1:39 pm
joey, if I worked with you several years ago and was asked to give my views and they were less than complimentary, I'm sure you would feel the bias was unjustified.

They wouldn’t be less than complimentary though

bodge · Post by **bodge** » Fri May 22, 2020 10:23 pm

The little magician is back tomorrow at 12 on the club website.

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Fri May 22, 2020 10:32 pm

bodge wrote: ↑
Fri May 22, 2020 10:23 pm
The little magician is back tomorrow at 12 on the club website.

Aye he is.

No red wine and no Yorkshire Parkin.

bodge · Post by **bodge** » Sat May 23, 2020 12:00 pm

Bumpo - Robbie supposed to be on the club website now. Available on the youtube channel right now.

Stan Tastic · Post by **Stan Tastic** » Sat May 23, 2020 1:22 pm

He must have scored more great goals for us than any other player I can remember. Here's the interview.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRk62pJRZvs