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"Hes so fine" and "my sweet lord"Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑Sun May 03, 2020 11:16 pmLooking for songs obviously ripped of other songs
I'll start with Pulp's Common People
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNcChi6pw_o
And Mark and Lard ripping Jarvis about it live on their show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thSgdsWLe4E
Aye, Wire sued them and they settled out of court, I think.Stalbansclaret wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 9:32 amGreat thread....one I remember is that when Elastica were in the charts with Connection they were accused of ripping off a track by Wire called Three Girl Rhumba
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilKcXIFi-Rc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QykauA8p14
Forgot about that oneSwizzlestick wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 10:00 amShakermaker / I’d Like to Teach the World to Sing another notable one.
Another good one from them is Whatever having it's basic hook pinched from How Sweet to be an Idiot by Monty Python's Neil InnesSwizzlestick wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 10:00 amShakermaker / I’d Like to Teach the World to Sing another notable one.
That’s pretty good. One thing that stands out is how poor those sound compared to Oasis. I’m not a crazy Oasis fan but their recordings of their songs were massive sounding. T Rex sound flat as a pancake.claptrappers_union wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 11:12 amHere's a video of a lot of hooks oasis has borrowed over the years
https://youtu.be/hdKR5t-LHV4
Sam Smith
Noah and the Whale
Never heard this before and Adam and the Ants was one of my first music loves as a young kid. Id say Kings of the Wild Frontier owes as much to this song as Ant Music and in truth it obviously influenced the whole sound of that albumCirrus_Minor wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 3:44 amAnt Music blatantly copied Burundi Black.
Always annoyed me.
Terrible Oasis track but a rip off of All the young dudes ??Swizzlestick wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 1:08 amMott the Hoople - All The Young Dudes and Oasis - Stand By Me
You could pick a dozen Oasis songs that are rip offs to be fair.
Tbf mate the YouTube thread loses its credibility a bit when it says Oasis “ ripped off Glitter “ ( Hello) it’s a cover which they credited . Then again there’s nothing more enjoyable about ( usually ) rancid old 50/60 somethings still seething about Oasis 25yrs down the lineclaptrappers_union wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 11:12 amHere's a video of a lot of hooks oasis has borrowed over the years
https://youtu.be/hdKR5t-LHV4
I'm a "rancid 50/60 something" but I hope you don't think, from my posts, I'm "seething" ! I really like both Oasis and the High Flying Birds but was still moved to post about them as there are examples of Noel's songs which fit in with the theme of the thread.AlargeClaret wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 4:02 pmTbf mate the YouTube thread loses its credibility a bit when it says Oasis “ ripped off Glitter “ ( Hello) it’s a cover which they credited . Then again there’s nothing more enjoyable about ( usually ) rancid old 50/60 somethings still seething about Oasis 25yrs down the line
Something lost in translation here. I was alluding to the you tube thread with hordes of “ old rock seethers” venting their spleen over Oasis “ every song is a Beatles song etc “ “ they’re a sh1t Beatles tribute etc” Must say Iistened to Definitely Maybe endless times and I can’t find a hint of Beatles . In fairness to the Gallagher they never hid their admiration . Probs the last great rock n roll bandStalbansclaret wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 4:34 pmI'm a "rancid 50/60 something" but I hope you don't think, from my posts, I'm "seething" ! I really like both Oasis and the High Flying Birds but was still moved to post about them as there are examples of Noel's songs which fit in with the theme of the thread.
I’d agree with The Beatles thing. They don’t sound like them one bit. I’d say they’ll never be another band like them in sense of what they achieved in a few years and following they had. But last great rock n roll band? That’s personal preference. If you say that because of their antics, that isn’t rock n roll. It’s being knobs. After 1997 they’ve had a very poor output of music. Liams voice dropped off the face of the earth. I’d actually put Liams voice from 94-96 into other best vocalist thread.AlargeClaret wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 5:16 pmSomething lost in translation here. I was alluding to the you tube thread with hordes of “ old rock seethers” venting their spleen over Oasis “ every song is a Beatles song etc “ “ they’re a sh1t Beatles tribute etc” Must say Iistened to Definitely Maybe endless times and I can’t find a hint of Beatles . In fairness to the Gallagher they never hid their admiration . Probs the last great rock n roll band
I was gonna reply to your post before with Oasis Glasto 94, Liam looks and sounds as good as he ever did.Dyched wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 5:32 pmOasis Glastonbury 1994
https://youtu.be/O8Ii2jcd30A
His voice her is sublime. No band ever as sounded that good in an afternoon Glastonbury slot
This is 2000
https://youtu.be/SXl3G55oFIY
He’s sounds crap. A parody of his former self and how people will remember him and Oasis by.
Yea the poor output and longevity killed them. I’m not old enough to remember those early days. Saw them in 09 at Heaton Park, which I thought they were pretty good tbf.Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 5:38 pmI was gonna reply to your post before with Oasis Glasto 94, Liam looks and sounds as good as he ever did.
I must admit I was fed up with them musically and with their antics by summer 96.
I remember being well up for Maine Rd but went to Knebworth and wasn't that fussed and seeing Squire was my highlight
Thought 3rd album was sh*t and then everything after that was just the same old sh*t. Thankgod the Strokes and Libertines came along to shake things up
Yep was in my mid 20's when Strokes / Libs hit and saw the Libs a fair but in the early days. Used to have a lot of their early demos and the Strokes coming along really refocused them and they def used them as a blueprint to get signed and get popularDyched wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 5:46 pmYea the poor output and longevity killed them. I’m not old enough to remember those early days. Saw them in 09 at Heaton Park, which I thought they were pretty good tbf.
The first Strokes album is my most favourite of all time. I can play it on repeat for weeks and not get bored. They are probably they only band to have kicked started a generation of guitar music like oasis did. Is This It is the holy grail imho of what guitar music should be. There’s a brilliant book about The Libertines and how they suddenly changed what they were doing after hearing The Strokes.
I’ll also add. With The Strokes you didn’t hear about them apart from the music. No stories of drugs, alcohol nothing. That is rare and refreshing to for a band like them.
They were completely different in the early days. Again too young to remember but The Libs were the first band I discovered for myself and read brilliant stories about flat gigs and posting on their own forum and such. I had an iPod about 10 years back full of their earlier music like Legs 11, demos and whatnot. Brilliant band. They have their own hotel down in Margate these days.Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 5:55 pmYep was in my mid 20's when Strokes / Libs hit and saw the Libs a fair but in the early days. Used to have a lot of their early demos and the Strokes coming along really refocused them and they def used them as a blueprint to get signed and get popular
Pete Docherty was destined to do something even back as a young lad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Quba72Xli8o
AlargeClaret wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 3:57 pmTerrible Oasis track but a rip off of All the young dudes ??
Before forums and messageboards became well known Pete and Carl used to post on one called the Albion Rooms (I think).Dyched wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 6:01 pmThey were completely different in the early days. Again too young to remember but The Libs were the first band I discovered for myself and read brilliant stories about flat gigs and posting on their own forum and such. I had an iPod about 10 years back full of their earlier music like Legs 11, demos and whatnot. Brilliant band. They have their own hotel down in Margate these days.
There were one libertines.org I though Albion Rooms was their flat and later became a forum?! It’s mad looking back how big I fan I was but a bit late/young for it.Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 6:29 pmBefore forums and messageboards became well known Pete and Carl used to post on one called the Albion Rooms (I think).
I wasnt that up with things and so only caught the backend of it when it was more just fans rather than them. I could go back through the history of it with all their mad convos and its where they used to announce off the cuff gigs
Think Carl called himself biggles but feels a lifetime ago and a world away
Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 1:26 pmNever heard this before and Adam and the Ants was one of my first music loves as a young kid. Id say Kings of the Wild Frontier owes as much to this song as Ant Music and in truth it obviously influenced the whole sound of that album
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=N8ba0gwBmUU
Just listen to the drumming and then think of Ant Music. I think he admitted it later.
Its a long time ago so prob getting mixed up with the Albion rooms but they were great days.Dyched wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 7:01 pmThere were one libertines.org I though Albion Rooms was their flat and later became a forum?! It’s mad looking back how big I fan I was but a bit late/young for it.
This is one of them still going. Posts back to 2002
https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/thelibe ... g-f188020/
Can’t argue with Liams vocal fall though, certainly by 1998 he’d got the croak though I thought it part worked until about 2002 stop crying your eyes out but by 03 he really struggled. I’m truly amazed he’s still singing.Dyched wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 5:25 pmI’d agree with The Beatles thing. They don’t sound like them one bit. I’d say they’ll never be another band like them in sense of what they achieved in a few years and following they had. But last great rock n roll band? That’s personal preference. If you say that because of their antics, that isn’t rock n roll. It’s being knobs. After 1997 they’ve had a very poor output of music. Liams voice dropped off the face of the earth. I’d actually put Liams voice from 94-96 into other best vocalist thread.
Can’t argue with Liams vocal fall though, certainly by 1998 he’d got the croak though I thought it part worked until about 2002 stop crying your eyes out but by 03 he really struggled. I’m truly amazed he’s still singing.AlargeClaret wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 8:37 pm[quote=Dyched post_id=<a href="tel:1268335">1268335</a> time=<a href="tel:1588609549">1588609549</a> user_id=2712]
I’d agree with The Beatles thing. They don’t sound like them one bit. I’d say they’ll never be another band like them in sense of what they achieved in a few years and following they had. But last great rock n roll band? That’s personal preference. If you say that because of their antics, that isn’t rock n roll. It’s being knobs. After 1997 they’ve had a very poor output of music. Liams voice dropped off the face of the earth. I’d actually put Liams voice from 94-96 into other best vocalist thread.
Yea, it wasn’t too long after when Arctic Monkeys kicked off. They must be the last band what exploded like that.Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 7:21 pmIts a long time ago so prob getting mixed up with the Albion rooms but they were great days.
I reckon you getting so into the Strokes and Libertines would be a bit like me with the Roses and Madchester in that I was a bit young at the time but it became my obsession
Yep, musics relationship to youth culture is totally different so not sure it'll ever have the same impact so who knows.
