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Post by Devils_Advocate » Sun May 03, 2020 11:16 pm

Looking for songs obviously ripped of other songs

I'll start with Pulp's Common People

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNcChi6pw_o

And Mark and Lard ripping Jarvis about it live on their show

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thSgdsWLe4E

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Post by Fenwick » Sun May 03, 2020 11:33 pm

The Shirehorses !

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Post by andyh » Mon May 04, 2020 12:04 am

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Sun May 03, 2020 11:16 pm
Looking for songs obviously ripped of other songs

I'll start with Pulp's Common People

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNcChi6pw_o

And Mark and Lard ripping Jarvis about it live on their show

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thSgdsWLe4E
"Hes so fine" and "my sweet lord"

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Post by Devils_Advocate » Mon May 04, 2020 12:08 am

andyh wrote:
Mon May 04, 2020 12:04 am
"Hes so fine" and "my sweet lord"
Harrison got absolutely hammered off the judge for that one if I remember right :)

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Post by Swizzlestick » Mon May 04, 2020 1:08 am

Mott the Hoople - All The Young Dudes and Oasis - Stand By Me

You could pick a dozen Oasis songs that are rip offs to be fair.

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Post by Cirrus_Minor » Mon May 04, 2020 3:44 am

Ant Music blatantly copied Burundi Black.

Always annoyed me.

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Post by Vintage Claret » Mon May 04, 2020 8:15 am

Jean Genie - David Bowie
Blockbuster -Sweet

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Post by Burnley1989 » Mon May 04, 2020 8:16 am

Amazing how many artists rip off old Northern Soul tracks

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Post by RingoMcCartney » Mon May 04, 2020 9:19 am

Joy Division- Interzone

https://youtu.be/L03jwJOcbGI

N F Porter - Keep on keeping on

https://youtu.be/L03jwJOcbGI

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Post by Stalbansclaret » Mon May 04, 2020 9:32 am

Great thread....one I remember is that when Elastica were in the charts with Connection they were accused of ripping off a track by Wire called Three Girl Rhumba

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilKcXIFi-Rc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QykauA8p14

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Post by Swizzlestick » Mon May 04, 2020 9:36 am

Stalbansclaret wrote:
Mon May 04, 2020 9:32 am
Great thread....one I remember is that when Elastica were in the charts with Connection they were accused of ripping off a track by Wire called Three Girl Rhumba

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilKcXIFi-Rc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QykauA8p14
Aye, Wire sued them and they settled out of court, I think.

There’s been some interesting plagiarism cases recently, notably Marvin Gaye’s estate suing the writers of Blurred Lines (successfully). Well worth a read that one.

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/life/musi ... t/24492431

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Post by Dyched » Mon May 04, 2020 9:55 am

Can only think of T Rex Oasis rip off.

I’ve always thought Blur are a lot more like The Kinks than Oasis are The Beatles.

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Post by Swizzlestick » Mon May 04, 2020 10:00 am

Dyched wrote:
Mon May 04, 2020 9:55 am
Can only think of T Rex Oasis rip off.

I’ve always thought Blur are a lot more like The Kinks than Oasis are The Beatles.
Shakermaker / I’d Like to Teach the World to Sing another notable one.

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Post by Dyched » Mon May 04, 2020 10:06 am

Swizzlestick wrote:
Mon May 04, 2020 10:00 am
Shakermaker / I’d Like to Teach the World to Sing another notable one.
Forgot about that one

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Post by Stalbansclaret » Mon May 04, 2020 10:46 am

Swizzlestick wrote:
Mon May 04, 2020 10:00 am
Shakermaker / I’d Like to Teach the World to Sing another notable one.
Another good one from them is Whatever having it's basic hook pinched from How Sweet to be an Idiot by Monty Python's Neil Innes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZ9EWcaS7II

Ironically Innes went on to be a member of the Rutles , the Beatles parody, which kind of adds an extra layer !

Noel has continued his, ahem, "magpie" ways with the High Flying Birds too. When their last album came out there was quite a lot of talk about the single, Holy Mountain, being a rip off of Ca Plane pour Moi by Plastic Bertrand but one that I've never seen discussed, but which always occurs to me (rightly or wrongly) is that there is a lot of the riff of Peaches by the Presidents of the USA in the track It's a Beautiful World. This was a also a single I think, or at least got a lot of radio airplay, and it used to never fail to strike me..particularly at the point the woman randomly speaking in French kicks in,,about 3.24 into the video below. I'd invariably find myself singing "Moving to the country, gonna eat a lotta peaches" at that point !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNqADIBkovA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvAnQqVJ3XQ

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Post by claptrappers_union » Mon May 04, 2020 11:12 am

Here's a video of a lot of hooks oasis has borrowed over the years

https://youtu.be/hdKR5t-LHV4
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Post by andyh » Mon May 04, 2020 11:47 am

According to the Axis of Awesome nearly all Popular songs have only 4 Chords in the same order. Their video is entertaining if nothing else. (They do cheat and transpose a lot of the songs but it is a fair point)

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Post by gawthorpe_view » Mon May 04, 2020 11:51 am

Don't bring me down. ELO

Go Right Ahead. The Hives.

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Post by Darthlaw » Mon May 04, 2020 11:56 am

That daft Robin Thicke one with Ratajkowski getting her chebs out in the video. That ripped off Marvin Gaye's Got to Give it up.

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Post by dougcollins » Mon May 04, 2020 12:37 pm

Human League 'Being Boiled'
Visage 'Fade to Grey'

Basically the same song.

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Post by Dyched » Mon May 04, 2020 12:49 pm

claptrappers_union wrote:
Mon May 04, 2020 11:12 am
Here's a video of a lot of hooks oasis has borrowed over the years

https://youtu.be/hdKR5t-LHV4
That’s pretty good. One thing that stands out is how poor those sound compared to Oasis. I’m not a crazy Oasis fan but their recordings of their songs were massive sounding. T Rex sound flat as a pancake.

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Post by Devils_Advocate » Mon May 04, 2020 1:26 pm

Cirrus_Minor wrote:
Mon May 04, 2020 3:44 am
Ant Music blatantly copied Burundi Black.

Always annoyed me.
Never heard this before and Adam and the Ants was one of my first music loves as a young kid. Id say Kings of the Wild Frontier owes as much to this song as Ant Music and in truth it obviously influenced the whole sound of that album

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Post by RingoMcCartney » Mon May 04, 2020 2:23 pm

"Killing Joke - Eighties"

https://youtu.be/eda_VcxiPhw

Nirvana- Come as you are.

https://youtu.be/vabnZ9-ex7o

Blatant!

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Post by AlargeClaret » Mon May 04, 2020 3:57 pm

Swizzlestick wrote:
Mon May 04, 2020 1:08 am
Mott the Hoople - All The Young Dudes and Oasis - Stand By Me

You could pick a dozen Oasis songs that are rip offs to be fair.
Terrible Oasis track but a rip off of All the young dudes ??

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Post by AlargeClaret » Mon May 04, 2020 4:02 pm

claptrappers_union wrote:
Mon May 04, 2020 11:12 am
Here's a video of a lot of hooks oasis has borrowed over the years

https://youtu.be/hdKR5t-LHV4
Tbf mate the YouTube thread loses its credibility a bit when it says Oasis “ ripped off Glitter “ ( Hello) it’s a cover which they credited . Then again there’s nothing more enjoyable about ( usually ) rancid old 50/60 somethings still seething about Oasis 25yrs down the line

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Post by Devils_Advocate » Mon May 04, 2020 4:20 pm

I reckon John Squire had been listening to his NME C86 tape of Primal Screams Velocity Girl when writing Made of Stone

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A44LZzNuxGs

Both brilliant songs mind

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Post by Stalbansclaret » Mon May 04, 2020 4:34 pm

AlargeClaret wrote:
Mon May 04, 2020 4:02 pm
Tbf mate the YouTube thread loses its credibility a bit when it says Oasis “ ripped off Glitter “ ( Hello) it’s a cover which they credited . Then again there’s nothing more enjoyable about ( usually ) rancid old 50/60 somethings still seething about Oasis 25yrs down the line
I'm a "rancid 50/60 something" but I hope you don't think, from my posts, I'm "seething" ! I really like both Oasis and the High Flying Birds but was still moved to post about them as there are examples of Noel's songs which fit in with the theme of the thread.

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Post by RingoMcCartney » Mon May 04, 2020 4:34 pm

This has to be one of the best!

" Johanne Pachelbel - Canon In D Major.

https://youtu.be/NlprozGcs80

"The Farm - All Together Now"
https://youtu.be/k-DxHWCOCq0

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Post by basil6345789 » Mon May 04, 2020 4:48 pm

How about names? Julian Covay And The Machine got done as did Philadelphian girl group, The Stereophonics.

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Post by AlargeClaret » Mon May 04, 2020 5:16 pm

Stalbansclaret wrote:
Mon May 04, 2020 4:34 pm
I'm a "rancid 50/60 something" but I hope you don't think, from my posts, I'm "seething" ! I really like both Oasis and the High Flying Birds but was still moved to post about them as there are examples of Noel's songs which fit in with the theme of the thread.
Something lost in translation here. I was alluding to the you tube thread with hordes of “ old rock seethers” venting their spleen over Oasis “ every song is a Beatles song etc “ “ they’re a sh1t Beatles tribute etc” Must say Iistened to Definitely Maybe endless times and I can’t find a hint of Beatles . In fairness to the Gallagher they never hid their admiration . Probs the last great rock n roll band
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Post by Dyched » Mon May 04, 2020 5:25 pm

AlargeClaret wrote:
Mon May 04, 2020 5:16 pm
Something lost in translation here. I was alluding to the you tube thread with hordes of “ old rock seethers” venting their spleen over Oasis “ every song is a Beatles song etc “ “ they’re a sh1t Beatles tribute etc” Must say Iistened to Definitely Maybe endless times and I can’t find a hint of Beatles . In fairness to the Gallagher they never hid their admiration . Probs the last great rock n roll band
I’d agree with The Beatles thing. They don’t sound like them one bit. I’d say they’ll never be another band like them in sense of what they achieved in a few years and following they had. But last great rock n roll band? That’s personal preference. If you say that because of their antics, that isn’t rock n roll. It’s being knobs. After 1997 they’ve had a very poor output of music. Liams voice dropped off the face of the earth. I’d actually put Liams voice from 94-96 into other best vocalist thread.

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Post by Dyched » Mon May 04, 2020 5:32 pm

Oasis Glastonbury 1994
https://youtu.be/O8Ii2jcd30A

His voice her is sublime. No band ever as sounded that good in an afternoon Glastonbury slot

This is 2000
https://youtu.be/SXl3G55oFIY
He’s sounds crap. A parody of his former self and how people will remember him and Oasis by.

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Post by Devils_Advocate » Mon May 04, 2020 5:38 pm

Dyched wrote:
Mon May 04, 2020 5:32 pm
Oasis Glastonbury 1994
https://youtu.be/O8Ii2jcd30A

His voice her is sublime. No band ever as sounded that good in an afternoon Glastonbury slot

This is 2000
https://youtu.be/SXl3G55oFIY
He’s sounds crap. A parody of his former self and how people will remember him and Oasis by.
I was gonna reply to your post before with Oasis Glasto 94, Liam looks and sounds as good as he ever did.

I must admit I was fed up with them musically and with their antics by summer 96.

I remember being well up for Maine Rd but went to Knebworth and wasn't that fussed and seeing Squire was my highlight

Thought 3rd album was sh*t and then everything after that was just the same old contrived rubbish. Thankgod the Strokes and Libertines came along to shake things up

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Post by Dyched » Mon May 04, 2020 5:46 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Mon May 04, 2020 5:38 pm
I was gonna reply to your post before with Oasis Glasto 94, Liam looks and sounds as good as he ever did.

I must admit I was fed up with them musically and with their antics by summer 96.

I remember being well up for Maine Rd but went to Knebworth and wasn't that fussed and seeing Squire was my highlight

Thought 3rd album was sh*t and then everything after that was just the same old sh*t. Thankgod the Strokes and Libertines came along to shake things up
Yea the poor output and longevity killed them. I’m not old enough to remember those early days. Saw them in 09 at Heaton Park, which I thought they were pretty good tbf.

The first Strokes album is my most favourite of all time. I can play it on repeat for weeks and not get bored. They are probably they only band to have kicked started a generation of guitar music like oasis did. Is This It is the holy grail imho of what guitar music should be. There’s a brilliant book about The Libertines and how they suddenly changed what they were doing after hearing The Strokes.

I’ll also add. With The Strokes you didn’t hear about them apart from the music. No stories of drugs, alcohol nothing. That is rare and refreshing to for a band like them.

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Post by Devils_Advocate » Mon May 04, 2020 5:55 pm

Dyched wrote:
Mon May 04, 2020 5:46 pm
Yea the poor output and longevity killed them. I’m not old enough to remember those early days. Saw them in 09 at Heaton Park, which I thought they were pretty good tbf.

The first Strokes album is my most favourite of all time. I can play it on repeat for weeks and not get bored. They are probably they only band to have kicked started a generation of guitar music like oasis did. Is This It is the holy grail imho of what guitar music should be. There’s a brilliant book about The Libertines and how they suddenly changed what they were doing after hearing The Strokes.

I’ll also add. With The Strokes you didn’t hear about them apart from the music. No stories of drugs, alcohol nothing. That is rare and refreshing to for a band like them.
Yep was in my mid 20's when Strokes / Libs hit and saw the Libs a fair but in the early days. Used to have a lot of their early demos and the Strokes coming along really refocused them and they def used them as a blueprint to get signed and get popular

Pete Docherty was destined to do something even back as a young lad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Quba72Xli8o

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Post by Dyched » Mon May 04, 2020 6:01 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Mon May 04, 2020 5:55 pm
Yep was in my mid 20's when Strokes / Libs hit and saw the Libs a fair but in the early days. Used to have a lot of their early demos and the Strokes coming along really refocused them and they def used them as a blueprint to get signed and get popular

Pete Docherty was destined to do something even back as a young lad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Quba72Xli8o
They were completely different in the early days. Again too young to remember but The Libs were the first band I discovered for myself and read brilliant stories about flat gigs and posting on their own forum and such. I had an iPod about 10 years back full of their earlier music like Legs 11, demos and whatnot. Brilliant band. They have their own hotel down in Margate these days.

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Post by Swizzlestick » Mon May 04, 2020 6:02 pm

AlargeClaret wrote:
Mon May 04, 2020 3:57 pm
Terrible Oasis track but a rip off of All the young dudes ??

The riff after "the way it's gonna be" is uncannily similar to All the Young Dudes.

Noel even acknowledges it in a Be Here Now doc.

Ironically, it's one the few Oasis songs I like.

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Post by Devils_Advocate » Mon May 04, 2020 6:29 pm

Dyched wrote:
Mon May 04, 2020 6:01 pm
They were completely different in the early days. Again too young to remember but The Libs were the first band I discovered for myself and read brilliant stories about flat gigs and posting on their own forum and such. I had an iPod about 10 years back full of their earlier music like Legs 11, demos and whatnot. Brilliant band. They have their own hotel down in Margate these days.
Before forums and messageboards became well known Pete and Carl used to post on one called the Albion Rooms (I think).

I wasnt that up with things and so only caught the backend of it when it was more just fans rather than them. I could go back through the history of it with all their mad convos and its where they used to announce off the cuff gigs

Think Carl called himself biggles but feels a lifetime ago and a world away

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Post by Dyched » Mon May 04, 2020 7:01 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Mon May 04, 2020 6:29 pm
Before forums and messageboards became well known Pete and Carl used to post on one called the Albion Rooms (I think).

I wasnt that up with things and so only caught the backend of it when it was more just fans rather than them. I could go back through the history of it with all their mad convos and its where they used to announce off the cuff gigs

Think Carl called himself biggles but feels a lifetime ago and a world away
There were one libertines.org I though Albion Rooms was their flat and later became a forum?! It’s mad looking back how big I fan I was but a bit late/young for it.

This is one of them still going. Posts back to 2002
https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/thelibe ... g-f188020/

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Post by Cirrus_Minor » Mon May 04, 2020 7:20 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Mon May 04, 2020 1:26 pm
Never heard this before and Adam and the Ants was one of my first music loves as a young kid. Id say Kings of the Wild Frontier owes as much to this song as Ant Music and in truth it obviously influenced the whole sound of that album

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=N8ba0gwBmUU

Just listen to the drumming and then think of Ant Music. I think he admitted it later.
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Post by Devils_Advocate » Mon May 04, 2020 7:21 pm

Dyched wrote:
Mon May 04, 2020 7:01 pm
There were one libertines.org I though Albion Rooms was their flat and later became a forum?! It’s mad looking back how big I fan I was but a bit late/young for it.

This is one of them still going. Posts back to 2002
https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/thelibe ... g-f188020/
Its a long time ago so prob getting mixed up with the Albion rooms but they were great days.

I reckon you getting so into the Strokes and Libertines would be a bit like me with the Roses and Madchester in that I was a bit young at the time but it became my obsession

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Post by TheFamilyCat » Mon May 04, 2020 8:14 pm

T Rex 'Ride a White Swan' and Morrissey 'Certain People I Know'.

So alike that Morrissey ended up introducing it as 'Certain White Swans I Know' on stage.

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Post by AlargeClaret » Mon May 04, 2020 8:37 pm

Dyched wrote:
Mon May 04, 2020 5:25 pm
I’d agree with The Beatles thing. They don’t sound like them one bit. I’d say they’ll never be another band like them in sense of what they achieved in a few years and following they had. But last great rock n roll band? That’s personal preference. If you say that because of their antics, that isn’t rock n roll. It’s being knobs. After 1997 they’ve had a very poor output of music. Liams voice dropped off the face of the earth. I’d actually put Liams voice from 94-96 into other best vocalist thread.
Can’t argue with Liams vocal fall though, certainly by 1998 he’d got the croak though I thought it part worked until about 2002 stop crying your eyes out but by 03 he really struggled. I’m truly amazed he’s still singing.
live . Some great gigs from Knebworth , Maine Rd and superb Finsbury Park 2002 ish maybe where bizzarely I met the great Ginger Bakers daughter .It was basic lads music and the likes of the libertines ( though a tidy band ) were just seen as “girly student junkie trendy” As the cat said when it licked the dogs arse “ it’s a matter of taste “

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Re: Musical Rip Offs

Post by Dyched » Mon May 04, 2020 8:52 pm

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Mon May 04, 2020 8:37 pm
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I’d agree with The Beatles thing. They don’t sound like them one bit. I’d say they’ll never be another band like them in sense of what they achieved in a few years and following they had. But last great rock n roll band? That’s personal preference. If you say that because of their antics, that isn’t rock n roll. It’s being knobs. After 1997 they’ve had a very poor output of music. Liams voice dropped off the face of the earth. I’d actually put Liams voice from 94-96 into other best vocalist thread.
Can’t argue with Liams vocal fall though, certainly by 1998 he’d got the croak though I thought it part worked until about 2002 stop crying your eyes out but by 03 he really struggled. I’m truly amazed he’s still singing.
live . Some great gigs from Knebworth , Maine Rd and superb Finsbury Park 2002 ish maybe where bizzarely I met the great Ginger Bakers daughter .It was basic lads music and the likes of the libertines ( though a tidy band ) were just seen as “girly student junkie trendy” As the cat said when it licked the dogs arse “ it’s a matter of taste “
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The Be Here Now tour he destroyed it. He’d always had the mic pretty high up but on that tour the mic was about 2 foot above his head and he strained into. Since he’s gone solo he’s started to get his voice back on track abit from the bits I’ve seen and seems to look after himself a bit.

I could some up The Libs like that. They were just everyones mates. The knocked down the wall between fans/bands and just let everyone ride the wave until it went tits up. Pete seems to be in a good place these days and settled down a bit. I personally think most of it was him not handling the press hounding him every waking hour.

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Re: Musical Rip Offs

Post by Dyched » Mon May 04, 2020 8:56 pm

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Mon May 04, 2020 7:21 pm
Its a long time ago so prob getting mixed up with the Albion rooms but they were great days.

I reckon you getting so into the Strokes and Libertines would be a bit like me with the Roses and Madchester in that I was a bit young at the time but it became my obsession
Yea, it wasn’t too long after when Arctic Monkeys kicked off. They must be the last band what exploded like that.

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Re: Musical Rip Offs

Post by Devils_Advocate » Mon May 04, 2020 9:10 pm

Dyched wrote:
Mon May 04, 2020 8:56 pm
Yea, it wasn’t too long after when Arctic Monkeys kicked off. They must be the last band what exploded like that.
Yep, musics relationship to youth culture is totally different so not sure it'll ever have the same impact so who knows.

I thought the way Gerry Cinnamon came out of nowhere just through gigs and word of mouth has been refreshing and his gigs last winter were the maddest ive seen since the early Arctics gigs. It just felt something bigger than the music itself was in play

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Re: Musical Rip Offs

Post by icu81b4 » Mon May 04, 2020 10:05 pm

Coldplay settled out of court for ripping off Joe Satriani's 'if I could fly' with 'viva la vida'

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