Trippier return?

Conroy92 · Post by **Conroy92** » Sun May 10, 2020 4:38 pm

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... erest.html

Would he take a wage cut to come back? 20 million yes or no?

I would love to have him back but don't think we can afford it.

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Sun May 10, 2020 4:40 pm

Considering we could go out of business because of the pandemic I'm pretty sure we won't be blowing 20 million on a single player.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun May 10, 2020 4:54 pm

Conroy92 wrote: ↑
Sun May 10, 2020 4:38 pm
20 million yes or no?

YES.

Rowls · Post by **Rowls** » Sun May 10, 2020 4:55 pm

This would be amazing if it came true.

taio · Post by **taio** » Sun May 10, 2020 4:56 pm

No chance we'd spend £20m on a full back and the high wages relative to such a fee and nor should we.

agreenwood · Post by **agreenwood** » Sun May 10, 2020 4:56 pm

Same paper linking Dyche with a move away.

Trippier would likely only come back if Dyche was here.

Make you’re mind up Daily Mail.

warksclaret · Post by **warksclaret** » Sun May 10, 2020 5:09 pm

I am certain most clarets would want him back as he was immense for us, and left in a professional manner. Like Heaton its clear Burnley has meant a lot to him. We would have to break our transfer record by around 30-35% and at 30 years of age in September we would have no sell on value. And then of course wages.Only way might be scheduled payments -£10m now and the balance of what we negotiate 12 months later

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Sun May 10, 2020 5:12 pm

Also interesting how positive news involving us is always met with great praise but anything to do with Dyche leaving or something is met with criticism.

BurningBeard · Post by **BurningBeard** » Sun May 10, 2020 5:12 pm

I wouldn't bet on it.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sun May 10, 2020 5:17 pm

I can’t see it and in the current climate i don’t think we’ll be throwing around that sort of cash. But I disagree that we wouldn’t go large on a full back - I think a player like Trippier would be one of our biggest attacking threats and would compliment a more auxiliary wide player like Hendrick. So in many ways we’d be killing two birds with one stone with a signing of Trippier’s quality.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sun May 10, 2020 5:22 pm

Imagine those crosses on the heads of our strikers!

taio · Post by **taio** » Sun May 10, 2020 5:23 pm

Rileybobs wrote: ↑
Sun May 10, 2020 5:17 pm
I can’t see it and in the current climate i don’t think we’ll be throwing around that sort of cash. But I disagree that we wouldn’t go large on a full back - I think a player like Trippier would be one of our biggest attacking threats and would compliment a more auxiliary wide player like Hendrick. So in many ways we’d be killing two birds with one stone with a signing of Trippier’s quality.

I just can't see how the club would be prepared to smash our transfer fee on a full back who is almost 30 years of age when it's almost certain we'd also have to make him our highest earner. Would seem completely against our well established strategy. Especially in the current climate which is likely to continue for some time. We'll see.

claptrappers_union · Post by **claptrappers_union** » Sun May 10, 2020 5:31 pm

They won't get £20m for a 29-year-old now. The post-covid market will probably take the value of players back 10 years. Although I can see the appeal in returning for him, I can't see much hope for Burnley FC in the Premier League for much longer after next season.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sun May 10, 2020 5:31 pm

taio wrote: ↑
Sun May 10, 2020 5:23 pm
I just can't see how the club would be prepared to smash our transfer fee on a full back who is almost 30 years of age when it's almost certain we'd also have to make him our highest earner. Would seem completely against our well established strategy. Especially in the current climate which is likely to continue for some time. We'll see.

Yeah I think the age would be a factor, don’t disagree with that. My point was that I don’t see the fact that he’s a full back preventing us from spending big.

If Atletico want £20m that doesn’t necessarily mean it’s what they’ll get. Trippier has intimated at a future return to Burnley so you would like to think that him and Dyche are on the same wavelength. If we could bag him on a 4 year deal for, say £18m then we would be guaranteeing a hell of a player for that period of time. Bear in mind it’s looking likely that we’ll get nothing back from the £10m+ we spent on Hendrick.

Anyway, it’s very unlikely in the current climate as the club will no doubt have to reign in their spending.

huw.Y.WattfromWare · Post by **huw.Y.WattfromWare** » Sun May 10, 2020 5:38 pm

Don’t have any stats but his crossing hasn’t been that great after his first season at Spurs.
Still a fine player but not £20m from our club.

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Sun May 10, 2020 5:51 pm

claptrappers_union wrote: ↑
Sun May 10, 2020 5:31 pm
They won't get £20m for a 29-year-old now. The post-covid market will probably take the value of players back 10 years. Although I can see the appeal in returning for him, I can't see much hope for Burnley FC in the Premier League for much longer after next season.

I can see more hope than highly indebted clubs like Watford & Villa.

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Sun May 10, 2020 5:53 pm

taio wrote: ↑
Sun May 10, 2020 5:23 pm
I just can't see how the club would be prepared to smash our transfer fee on a full back who is almost 30 years of age when it's almost certain we'd also have to make him our highest earner. Would seem completely against our well established strategy. Especially in the current climate which is likely to continue for some time. We'll see.

Would love to sign him and could see a scenario where wages were affordable if a few of our out of contract players left, but think £20m would be too steep for Burnley post-Covid, unfortunately. Real shame as would complete our defence.

evensteadiereddie · Post by **evensteadiereddie** » Sun May 10, 2020 5:56 pm

"I can't see much hope for Burnley FC in the Premier League for much longer after next season."

This has got be a record for the earliest relegation fear ever posted..

We'll be better off than most clubs outside the top six...

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Sun May 10, 2020 5:57 pm

Tripps was fantastic in his first spell,but 20m plus big wages,not for me,added to that he'll have no sell on value,thanks for the memories Kieran,and hope you find a club,but it won't be BFC.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sun May 10, 2020 5:57 pm

Tripps said he wants to come back to Burnley but he’s under contract at Atlético until end of 2021/22 season.

claretblue · Post by **claretblue** » Sun May 10, 2020 5:59 pm

huge respect (both ways) between Dyche + Trippier...all this rumour of likely departure of Sean would likely influence any decision!

tarkys_ears · Post by **tarkys_ears** » Sun May 10, 2020 6:28 pm

He said he wanted to come back and play for Burnley. I figure he's got 3-4 years left tops. Now could be the time, especially as we don't really have anyone decent on the right.

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Sun May 10, 2020 6:31 pm

ClaretAndJew wrote: ↑
Sun May 10, 2020 4:40 pm
Considering we could go out of business because of the pandemic I'm pretty sure we won't be blowing 20 million on a single player.

You along with most on here know bugger all about the finances of Burnley football club.

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Sun May 10, 2020 6:39 pm

claptrappers_union wrote: ↑
Sun May 10, 2020 5:31 pm
They won't get £20m for a 29-year-old now. The post-covid market will probably take the value of players back 10 years. Although I can see the appeal in returning for him, I can't see much hope for Burnley FC in the Premier League for much longer after next season.

Rowls · Post by **Rowls** » Sun May 10, 2020 6:39 pm

ClaretAndJew wrote: ↑
Sun May 10, 2020 5:12 pm
Also interesting how positive news involving us is always met with great praise but anything to do with Dyche leaving or something is met with criticism.

Well it wouldn't make sense to greet negative news with praise now would it?

But on a serious note, positivity is a great mindset to have as long as you can temper it with a healthy dose of scepticism and realism. It's not a case of positivity vs negativity, it's a case of striking a healthy balance.

Do I think we're likely to re-sign Trippier? No. Not at all. But it would be nice wouldn't it.

All the best C&J.

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Sun May 10, 2020 6:43 pm

tarkys_ears wrote: ↑
Sun May 10, 2020 6:28 pm
He said he wanted to come back and play for Burnley. I figure he's got 3-4 years left tops. Now could be the time, especially as we don't really have anyone decent on the right.

I like Bardsley for his defensive solidity. Also like Lowts, but agree it’s a position where there’s room for improvement to go to the next level - Tippier would certainly improve us and complete an all-English back 5.

I did wonder if Covid would make him consider an early return. I don’t think I’d want to be holed up in a foreign country at the moment. Or has he come home?

Him & Hendrick staying would give us a decent right side!!

huw.Y.WattfromWare · Post by **huw.Y.WattfromWare** » Sun May 10, 2020 6:46 pm

NewClaret wrote: ↑
Sun May 10, 2020 5:51 pm
I can see more hope than highly indebted clubs like Watford & Villa.

Spot on. The wealthy backers of these clubs will struggle personally in the short term. I think they’ll be more interested in sorting their own finances than worrying about their hobbies.

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Sun May 10, 2020 6:47 pm

taio wrote: ↑
Sun May 10, 2020 4:56 pm
No chance we'd spend £20m on a full back and the high wages relative to such a fee and nor should we.

We spent £13m on a bench warmer, another £7m for a first team starter nearly 3 years later seems ok to me. Going rate methinks. Wages be the stumbling block, not the fee.

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Sun May 10, 2020 6:47 pm

Lets hope he isn't banned for 6 months assuming he was being lined up for a return

Stayingup · Post by **Stayingup** » Sun May 10, 2020 6:49 pm

agreenwood wrote: ↑
Sun May 10, 2020 4:56 pm
Same paper linking Dyche with a move away.

Trippier would likely only come back if Dyche was here.

Make you’re mind up Daily Mail.

The Dyche possibly leaving story started in a recent interview he gave. In whch he was a bit nebulous when asked if he would leave. Birmingham press has reported he could ho to Villa but its all paper talk and lets face it other than restarting the EPL there isnt a lot for them to report on.

Tripps coming back would be fantastic. Loved him as a player for us.

Stayingup · Post by **Stayingup** » Sun May 10, 2020 6:56 pm

ClaretAndJew wrote: ↑
Sun May 10, 2020 4:40 pm
Considering we could go out of business because of the pandemic I'm pretty sure we won't be blowing 20 million on a single player.

I just love a positive approach. Don't go onto a bridge will you. Or listen to Morrisey!!!

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Sun May 10, 2020 7:38 pm

huw.Y.WattfromWare wrote: ↑
Sun May 10, 2020 6:46 pm
Spot on. The wealthy backers of these clubs will struggle personally in the short term. I think they’ll be more interested in sorting their own finances than worrying about their hobbies.

Crass to discuss, but this is potentially very good news for us, assuming we get playing again and don’t lose the £40m

Those below are largely in masses of debt and an unplanned loss of cash flow will have caused this clubs that have stretched themselves to the limit untold problems. Those above all have bigger stadiums and will be disproportionately impacted by lost match day income (compared to us). The Championship and downwards will be suffering big time.

Meanwhile we’ve been well run.

Claret Toni · Post by **Claret Toni** » Sun May 10, 2020 7:51 pm

Wasn't it only a short time ago that Trip's was saying how he enjoyed playing for Simione who'd tightened him up defensively, and how he'd settled in Spain, was learning the language and looking to progress in the Champions League.

If a club like Atletico are looking to cash in on players, as much as I like Trips, it might just be there are some fantastic bargains to be had in the not too distant future, and possibly we could spend any money we have a little better.

Chester Perry · Post by **Chester Perry** » Sun May 10, 2020 8:00 pm

Anyone who thinks Villa are in serious debt need to look again - Their new owners have essentially eradicated it - paying off external loans, converting their own loans to shares and all new money they put in has been in the form of additional share capital. There is a relatively small amount in a factored loan, and then the (large) outstanding transfer stage payments (and condition payments) on their books. Making them one of the more financially stable clubs if they stay up.

They may have challenges in cashflow and to a lesser extent in FFP, but the owners (both billionaires) have not been shy in chucking money at the club since they took over a couple of years back. They were likely to report to report a substantial accounting loss for the year before the pandemic, but that will just enlarge it. If they are in the Premier League next season I fully expect them to spend a large amount again, and they will get much more for their money too. There is a likelihood they will be a very strong outfit next season and Tripper would be a great signing for them.

I will add that the key fear for the bottom 6 in relegation is not necessarily financial - it has much more to do with new financial regulations in the Championship. more so because no one yet knows what they will be and the noises around them are very menacing for a newly relegated club

huw.Y.WattfromWare · Post by **huw.Y.WattfromWare** » Sun May 10, 2020 8:18 pm

Chester Perry wrote: ↑
Sun May 10, 2020 8:00 pm
Anyone who thinks Villa are in serious debt need to look again - Their new owners have essentially eradicated it - paying off external loans, converting their own loans to shares and all new money they put in has been in the form of additional share capital. There is a relatively small amount in a factored loan, and then the (large) outstanding transfer stage payments (and condition payments) on their books. Making them one of the more financially stable clubs if they stay up.

They may have challenges in cashflow and to a lesser extent in FFP, but the owners (both billionaires) have not been shy in chucking money at the club since they took over a couple of years back. They were likely to report to report a substantial accounting loss for the year before the pandemic, but that will just enlarge it. If they are in the Premier League next season I fully expect them to spend a large amount again, and they will get much more for their money too. There is a likelihood they will be a very strong outfit next season and Tripper would be a great signing for them.

I will add that the key fear for the bottom 6 in relegation is not necessarily financial - it has much more to do with new financial regulations in the Championship. more so because no one yet knows what they will be and the noises around them are very menacing for a newly relegated club

And yet only two days ago someone from their club was on Sky saying relegation could cost them £200m. I didn’t catch the in depth just the headline.

Bertiebeehead · Post by **Bertiebeehead** » Sun May 10, 2020 8:28 pm

Anyone who doesn’t want Trippier back at this club is a ******* moron.

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Sun May 10, 2020 8:38 pm

One player I would love to see back and would be an excellent fit for us in a position that needs strengthening. Do I want us to spend stupid money on fees and wages in this climate ? Not really.

Chester Perry · Post by **Chester Perry** » Sun May 10, 2020 9:35 pm

huw.Y.WattfromWare wrote: ↑
Sun May 10, 2020 8:18 pm
And yet only two days ago someone from their club was on Sky saying relegation could cost them £200m. I didn’t catch the in depth just the headline.

revenues v costs - it is a hell of a lot of revenue to lose, given their cost base - if relegated they would have to sell off key players - Grealish. McGinn and Mings are critical to them and they would probably have to sell all three and rebuild under new rules in the championship and massive amortisation which will affect the bottom line in the accounts, of which these 3 play a small part.

Everything I said about them being strong next season was predicated on them being in the Premier League

scouseclaret · Post by **scouseclaret** » Sun May 10, 2020 11:03 pm

There are clearly a lot of bored football writers at the moment clearly looking to make stories out of nothing - last week it was SD looking to leave based on a vague comment to Eammon Holmes; today it’s Trippier, presumably based on old comments about wanting to come back to Burnley.

But why would he want to leave Athletico, after a highly successful season where he’s played regularly in a team that is in the European Cup semi finals and working with a manager he clearly regards as highly as Dyche. When he said he would like to end his career at Burnley, I’m pretty sure he didn’t mean just yet.

superdimitri · Post by **superdimitri** » Mon May 11, 2020 6:32 am

He'll probably come back to us when he's old and lost it. Hopefully though he can adapt to a central role like grezza did.

He's all about the crossing though...eh maybe he can play the right midfield Beckham role when he joins us at 35.

Burnley87 · Post by **Burnley87** » Mon May 11, 2020 7:26 am

With Trippier crossing on one side and McNeil on the other side, Wood would get 15- 20 goals a season with his head haha

I actually dread to think how good we would actually be if this was to happen and with Johan/Jeff naturally wanting to come inside from the right it will give space for Trippier to cross.

We are very Left Sided and this would give us a massive threat with two of the best crossers in the league. Especially when we have got one of the best Forwards with his head in the league

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Mon May 11, 2020 8:10 am

Would I take him? YES
Will we get him? NO

His age you could say hes got 3 if not 4 seasons st this level, however we wouldn't give that sort of money for our previous number 1 targets, so very much doubt we would on a RB to be honest.

Lots of wages are being freed up, and our bonus scheme could help with yearly wages, however the fee is way too high for us IMO.

If it was a free transfer and I'd seriously back us to be a front runner for his signature, soon as transfer fees start getting into double figures, it usually sees our interest fade to a token gesture.

claretonthecoast1882 · Post by **claretonthecoast1882** » Mon May 11, 2020 8:23 am

Was the 20m bid for Phillips a token gesture ?

We won't pay 20m for Trippier but to suggest we wouldn't offer to pay that for a number 1 target is wrong.

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Mon May 11, 2020 8:29 am

scouseclaret wrote: ↑
Sun May 10, 2020 11:03 pm
There are clearly a lot of bored football writers at the moment clearly looking to make stories out of nothing - last week it was SD looking to leave based on a vague comment to Eammon Holmes; today it’s Trippier, presumably based on old comments about wanting to come back to Burnley.

But why would he want to leave Athletico, after a highly successful season where he’s played regularly in a team that is in the European Cup semi finals and working with a manager he clearly regards as highly as Dyche. When he said he would like to end his career at Burnley, I’m pretty sure he didn’t mean just yet.

Only reason I can think is the whole Covid situation. If he’s isolating in Spain, it can’t be a great situation to know you can’t get home. And, if you do, you’ll now have to isolate for a period. If he’s over here, he has the same issue in terms of when he feels comfortable to return. This may have reset his priorities.

Long shot though. He’s playing at a massive club, in a 70k new stadium, Regularly challenging for La Liga / Champions League. It’s hard to imagine he’ll want to leave that unless he’s pushed.

Rowls · Post by **Rowls** » Mon May 11, 2020 8:29 am

Everything is pretty much on hold throughout the football world right now anyway so prepare yourself for plenty of these wondrous stories and prepare that they'll come at us from both directions too.

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Mon May 11, 2020 8:45 am

claretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑
Mon May 11, 2020 8:23 am
Was the 20m bid for Phillips a token gesture ?

We won't pay 20m for Trippier but to suggest we wouldn't offer to pay that for a number 1 target is wrong.

If the season gets cancelled or Leeds don’t go up, they might regret not taking that offer!

Assuming we finish the season, given previous years under investment, I’d like to think we would be willing to spend £20m on one player, particularly since it’s likely to be in instalments.

Hard to see that being at RB though

Danieljwaterhouse · Post by **Danieljwaterhouse** » Mon May 11, 2020 10:41 am

Chester Perry wrote: ↑
Sun May 10, 2020 8:00 pm
Anyone who thinks Villa are in serious debt need to look again - Their new owners have essentially eradicated it - paying off external loans, converting their own loans to shares and all new money they put in has been in the form of additional share capital. There is a relatively small amount in a factored loan, and then the (large) outstanding transfer stage payments (and condition payments) on their books. Making them one of the more financially stable clubs if they stay up.

They may have challenges in cashflow and to a lesser extent in FFP, but the owners (both billionaires) have not been shy in chucking money at the club since they took over a couple of years back. They were likely to report to report a substantial accounting loss for the year before the pandemic, but that will just enlarge it. If they are in the Premier League next season I fully expect them to spend a large amount again, and they will get much more for their money too. There is a likelihood they will be a very strong outfit next season and Tripper would be a great signing for them.

I will add that the key fear for the bottom 6 in relegation is not necessarily financial - it has much more to do with new financial regulations in the Championship. more so because no one yet knows what they will be and the noises around them are very menacing for a newly relegated club

FFP is going out the window, so many clubs are going to breach it that it becomes irrelevant

Danieljwaterhouse · Post by **Danieljwaterhouse** » Mon May 11, 2020 10:43 am

We won’t spend 20 million on a 29 year old right back with little resale value.

Be serious people!

gawthorpe_view · Post by **gawthorpe_view** » Mon May 11, 2020 11:14 am

Tripper's early crosses wreaked havoc in the opponent's defence.
Torn between watching the ball coming in early from behind and over their shoulders, and marking the attacker, the defenders were often turned inside out.

Top Claret · Post by **Top Claret** » Mon May 11, 2020 12:15 pm

If we come out of this financially sound I don't see the fee to be a problem. Tripps knows our wage structure and will know that he will have to take a possible drop in wages.
Tripps just wants to be living back up in Rammy surrounded by his family and mates

We would be awesome going forward with Tripps whizzing the ball in from the right, Taylor and McNeil out left, Wood, would have a field day.