Have we ever had any genuine WORLD CLASS players?

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Wile E Coyote
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Re: Have we ever had any genuine WORLD CLASS players?

Post by Wile E Coyote » Thu May 14, 2020 12:33 pm

FactualFrank wrote:
Wed May 13, 2020 2:44 pm
If we were playing Mars, the players who would make our starting 11.
it might come to that Frank if this virus doesn't go away .

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Re: Have we ever had any genuine WORLD CLASS players?

Post by Wile E Coyote » Thu May 14, 2020 12:42 pm

The dutch, germans, spanish, italians french etc, have all been far more successful than any british team, by virtue of winning world cups against players from anywhere and over several decades. its more about blending players into a great team at the right time. Billy hamilton did a decent enough job, but no one would describe him as world class.
I do know that even with the claret tinted specs removed, lots of older clarets said jimmy mac was world class. they must have seen something in him that set him apart.

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Re: Have we ever had any genuine WORLD CLASS players?

Post by Goobs » Thu May 14, 2020 1:26 pm

I wouldn't personally class either Wright or Cole as world class. Neither were good enough to even force their way consistently into the England team even at their best.

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Re: Have we ever had any genuine WORLD CLASS players?

Post by Jamesy » Fri May 15, 2020 6:53 pm

IanMcL wrote:
Thu May 14, 2020 11:51 am
When things were dire, he raised the spirits.
Aye, and Chris Pearce used to lower my spirits every time we conceded a corner!

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Re: Have we ever had any genuine WORLD CLASS players?

Post by beddie » Sat May 16, 2020 7:38 am

Gifton Noel Williams. Well he was one Tuesday night in my eyes anyway. :lol:

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Re: Have we ever had any genuine WORLD CLASS players?

Post by jrgbfc » Sat May 16, 2020 7:56 am

Goobs wrote:
Thu May 14, 2020 1:26 pm
I wouldn't personally class either Wright or Cole as world class. Neither were good enough to even force their way consistently into the England team even at their best.
To me world class means a player who would get in pretty much any team in the world. I'd agree that Wright and Cole were nowhere near, even in their prime. Good premier league strikers yes, world class no.
That era had the likes of Ronaldo, Batistuta, Bergkamp and even Shearer. That's who I'd describe as world class.
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Re: Have we ever had any genuine WORLD CLASS players?

Post by superdimitri » Sat May 16, 2020 9:24 am

Pretty certain Defour would have been if it wasn't for his injury record. Not many players wanted by Manchester United in the Ferguson glory era weren't world class... I think they ended up with Hargreaves instead. Of course later on they signed some real duds but Defour was wanted in an era where they had some very good players.

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Re: Have we ever had any genuine WORLD CLASS players?

Post by Claretforever » Sat May 16, 2020 10:12 am

Willie Morgan seems to have a George Best swagger about him, but was before my time.

https://youtu.be/hMRrIgAdXxM

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