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Getting Our Lives Back

Post by ten bellies » Sat May 16, 2020 8:18 pm

How safe does life have to be, for people who are fearful, to return to the 'old normal'? When told by government? When told by your scientist of choice?

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Re: Getting Our Lives Back

Post by conyoviejo » Sat May 16, 2020 8:42 pm

Life's never safe.. It's a game of chance.

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Re: Getting Our Lives Back

Post by Ptangyangkipperbang » Sat May 16, 2020 8:55 pm

Pretty sure all the boring bastards will be here soon to argue their point to what will or not happen

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Re: Getting Our Lives Back

Post by No Ney Never » Sat May 16, 2020 9:07 pm

I don't want things to get back to 'normal' yet, I'm really enjoying my time off. I'll be quite happy for another 6 months of this, I've worked hard enough for many years to deserve a bit of a rest. Apart from the couple of weeks off at Christmas, this is the most I've been relaxed for years.
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Re: Getting Our Lives Back

Post by Claretincraven » Sat May 16, 2020 9:19 pm

No Ney Never wrote:
Sat May 16, 2020 9:07 pm
I don't want things to get back to 'normal' yet, I'm really enjoying my time off. I'll be quite happy for another 6 months of this, I've worked hard enough for many years to deserve a bit of a rest. Apart from the couple of weeks off at Christmas, this is the most I've been relaxed for years.
So basically you expect the taxpayer to finance your life of idleness. Hopefully you will be in a significant minority otherwise those of us that are taxpayers will be receiving a lot less because you have become quite accustomed to sitting on your backside.

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Re: Getting Our Lives Back

Post by No Ney Never » Sat May 16, 2020 9:34 pm

Claretincraven wrote:
Sat May 16, 2020 9:19 pm
So basically you expect the taxpayer to finance your life of idleness. Hopefully you will be in a significant minority otherwise those of us that are taxpayers will be receiving a lot less because you have become quite accustomed to sitting on your backside.
I am a tax payer, I've paid a fortune over the years, it's nice to get a bit back without having to wait until I draw a pension before I see some sort of return.
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Re: Getting Our Lives Back

Post by tim_noone » Sat May 16, 2020 9:35 pm

Claretincraven wrote:
Sat May 16, 2020 9:19 pm
So basically you expect the taxpayer to finance your life of idleness. Hopefully you will be in a significant minority otherwise those of us that are taxpayers will be receiving a lot less because you have become quite accustomed to sitting on your backside.
I'm guessing he his a tax payer.

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Re: Getting Our Lives Back

Post by No Ney Never » Sat May 16, 2020 9:43 pm

tim_noone wrote:
Sat May 16, 2020 9:35 pm
I'm guessing he his a tax payer.
Indeed I am Tim, and at 45% for a proportion of my earnings. Think I've contributed enough over the years to be worth a bit of paid time off.
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Re: Getting Our Lives Back

Post by Bosscat » Sat May 16, 2020 9:44 pm

tim_noone wrote:
Sat May 16, 2020 9:35 pm
I'm guessing he his a tax payer.
My thoughts too Tim Bob

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Re: Getting Our Lives Back

Post by Colburn_Claret » Sat May 16, 2020 9:50 pm

No Ney Never wrote:
Sat May 16, 2020 9:07 pm
I don't want things to get back to 'normal' yet, I'm really enjoying my time off. I'll be quite happy for another 6 months of this, I've worked hard enough for many years to deserve a bit of a rest. Apart from the couple of weeks off at Christmas, this is the most I've been relaxed for years.
I think the feeling of relaxation is one shared by many people, I've loved the last 3 months. I went back to work last Monday, all good things come to an end, but I don't think I will be the same again.

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Re: Getting Our Lives Back

Post by Swizzlestick » Sat May 16, 2020 9:53 pm

I’ll be glad when it’s over. Partner and I still working while trying to look after an increasingly bored three year old! Partner working early morning shift, me on the late aft/evening. Like ships in the night. Enjoyed the greater community spirit here anyway (north Preston).

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Re: Getting Our Lives Back

Post by WadingInDeeper » Sat May 16, 2020 10:10 pm

I am determined not to return to the 'old normal. As i run my own company I've continued working, but only from home. The time saved not sat in traffic means I have extra time to get out for exercise, with family, and more time to cook, whilst still being busy.

It will be a while before we open fully anyhow, but with a few modifications there is nothing that most people do in the office which can't be done at home.

I've also been busier online then ever with non-work events, I'm not sure the old normal will be possible looking forward.
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Re: Getting Our Lives Back

Post by Nonayforever » Sat May 16, 2020 10:20 pm

WadingInDeeper wrote:
Sat May 16, 2020 10:10 pm
I am determined not to return to the 'old normal. As i run my own company I've continued working, but only from home. The time saved not sat in traffic means I have extra time to get out for exercise, with family, and more time to cook, whilst still being busy.

It will be a while before we open fully anyhow, but with a few modifications there is nothing that most people do in the office which can't be done at home.

I've also been busier online then ever with non-work events, I'm not sure the old normal will be possible looking forward.
I am thinking exactly the same.
I have my own business and have been lucky enough to continue to work but on very different terms to normal.
Instead of my usual 60 hours per week, I'm now doing about 40 hrs, earning more with less hassle and a different attitude.
I'm certainly planning to change the way my business operates in the future.

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Re: Getting Our Lives Back

Post by WadingInDeeper » Sat May 16, 2020 10:29 pm

Nonayforever wrote:
Sat May 16, 2020 10:20 pm
I am thinking exactly the same.
earning more with less hassle and a different attitude.
Ive found bring in more relaxed surroundings has meant a couple of jobs, which would normally cause some stress, haven't and I've been able to concentrate on them without mundane office questions.

I'm loving this change.

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Re: Getting Our Lives Back

Post by Quickenthetempo » Sat May 16, 2020 10:37 pm

As soon as the BBC get something else to whinge about we should be back to normal in time all.

They didn't have enough deaths to talk about last week in England, Spain or Italy so started reporting on Africa.

Utter doom mongers.
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Re: Getting Our Lives Back

Post by Swizzlestick » Sat May 16, 2020 11:09 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Sat May 16, 2020 10:37 pm
As soon as the BBC get something else to whinge about we should be back to normal in time all.

They didn't have enough deaths to talk about last week in England, Spain or Italy so started reporting on Africa.

Utter doom mongers.
Bizarre post.
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Re: Getting Our Lives Back

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sat May 16, 2020 11:11 pm

Working from home has many positives. I was technically a home worker anyway but went in the office more often than not as I prefer being around people.

However. I have seen my daughter (and now son) for every meal of the day. Had walks in the park before work which would be impossible before now. Have had no rush hour. And ironically even see more of my team from home on video calls than I do in the office. Also a bit of comradely with customers, suppliers and colleagues with all being in the same boat.

That said I do miss driving to see customers. It’s the main part of the job I like. But our place has totally embraced home working even for the employees who weren’t seen as possible to work from home before now.

The main things I miss are the obvious. Seeing family and being close with them. Going on the turf. Holidays.

Aside from that my life’s pretty simple and I like it like that. Blue skies. Sunshine. Nice walks. Drives out. They’re simple pleasures that are and will always be there.

I’ve actually not missed going to restaurants. Have eaten far healthier and not wasted a thing in the cupboard. Not bought half as much junk. Not been in a shop for ten weeks.

I hope ‘normal’ resumes from a socialising and ‘event’ point of view. But if working from home becomes even more common I don’t see it as that bad a thing as long as you have the right space. Appreciate it could be hard work for people who house share or have limited space or two or more in the house working from home.

The gardens been a god send too.
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Re: Getting Our Lives Back

Post by ksrclaret » Sat May 16, 2020 11:20 pm

I'm just looking forward to not having to hear or see the phrase 'a new normal' again. That, and the term 'unprecedented'.

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Re: Getting Our Lives Back

Post by Spiral » Sat May 16, 2020 11:40 pm

Hope to God people take any new-found considerations about their work/life balance during this whole thing and make them stick, because we've seen in this thread one person lash out at the suggestion of something being not quite right with the old ways. You're alive for about 70-80 years if you're really, really lucky. Some folks only see their own kids for 20-30 years before they themselves die. It's nothing. The universe is 13,800,000,000 years old. Earth, four and a half billion. Fleeting doesn't even begin to describe our existence. We basically don't exist in cosmic terms. Yet we find meaning in things, and happiness, and love, and joy when the conditions are right. I hope the next time someone tells folk they're being taken for a ride by a political and economic system calibrated to suck just enough worth from you without driving you to suicide, they actually take a minute or two to consider the merits of new ideas (better working conditions, more paid leave, better maternity/paternity pay etc...bloody RENT PRICES!!!), rather than make a bold-print exclamation about GDP or shareholder value or other such funny-money b0llocks. Bear in mind there was a time when children working in factories was just a done thing which went unchallenged up until the point where people actually took a leap forward and challenged it.
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Re: Getting Our Lives Back

Post by WadingInDeeper » Sat May 16, 2020 11:57 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:
Sat May 16, 2020 11:11 pm
However. I have seen my daughter (and now son) for every meal of the day. Had walks in the park before work which would be impossible before now.

Have eaten far healthier and not wasted a thing in the cupboard.
I find I now have time to put the garden to the use we bought it for, and have time for two 20-30min football sessions each day with our youngest (apart from a couple of days where he injured me).

We've also found we are hardly wasting anything.
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Re: Getting Our Lives Back

Post by kindonesque » Sun May 17, 2020 12:09 am

Let's not forget slavery Spiral

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Re: Getting Our Lives Back

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sun May 17, 2020 12:24 am

A large chunk of my life has stayed the same during this pandemic.
I haven't seen my 2 teenage sons, my best mate (their uncle) nor my 80yr old mum since it started, and all of them are within 20 mins driving.
They boys have vulnerable people in their mums side of the family, inc their uncle, and my mum is knocking on abit, but she's hiding out at my brothers until its all over.

Getting my life back would mean I could see those 4 people as I normally would and not have to worry that I've left them an unwanted present.

When the government give the all clear, that's when I'll resume a normal life.
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Re: Getting Our Lives Back

Post by Taffy on the wing » Sun May 17, 2020 4:28 am

cricketfieldclarets wrote:
Sat May 16, 2020 11:11 pm
Working from home has many positives. I was technically a home worker anyway but went in the office more often than not as I prefer being around people.

However. I have seen my daughter (and now son) for every meal of the day. Had walks in the park before work which would be impossible before now. Have had no rush hour. And ironically even see more of my team from home on video calls than I do in the office. Also a bit of comradely with customers, suppliers and colleagues with all being in the same boat.

That said I do miss driving to see customers. It’s the main part of the job I like. But our place has totally embraced home working even for the employees who weren’t seen as possible to work from home before now.

The main things I miss are the obvious. Seeing family and being close with them. Going on the turf. Holidays.

Aside from that my life’s pretty simple and I like it like that. Blue skies. Sunshine. Nice walks. Drives out. They’re simple pleasures that are and will always be there.

I’ve actually not missed going to restaurants. Have eaten far healthier and not wasted a thing in the cupboard. Not bought half as much junk. Not been in a shop for ten weeks.

I hope ‘normal’ resumes from a socialising and ‘event’ point of view. But if working from home becomes even more common I don’t see it as that bad a thing as long as you have the right space. Appreciate it could be hard work for people who house share or have limited space or two or more in the house working from home.

The gardens been a god send too.
The 'Not been in a shop for ten weeks'.......is basically the only part the Government gives a **** about.

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Re: Getting Our Lives Back

Post by fatboy47 » Sun May 17, 2020 8:41 am

Whats not to like?.

A swift sale of investments when the crisis was clearly imminent, a reassessment of holdings and now a gradual buy back with more lquidity, all mean finances are very satisfactory.

Tenants all essential workers..so no probs with rental incomes.

Bugger all cases of cv in these parts, and clearly diminishng by the day around the UK.

Sun shining....boats back out on the waves..and the geraniums in full bloom.. picnic sorted for beach this aft...and hardly any tourists trailng their grotty snotty kids around the place.

Happier too, since I elected to avoid all news prgrammes...it did become apparent that theyre feeding only on negatives...

Enjoy the unexpected holiday...it might not come round again.
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Re: Getting Our Lives Back

Post by evensteadiereddie » Sun May 17, 2020 8:48 am

You're on dangerous ground here, fatboy... ;)
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Re: Getting Our Lives Back

Post by Tribesmen » Sun May 17, 2020 8:55 am

Still find it hard to get my head around staying at home while not working .

So back at work on Monday for a two week spin then off again at home for a week , boy could do with a flight to somewhere .

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Re: Getting Our Lives Back

Post by IanMcL » Sun May 17, 2020 9:27 am

My daily weeding has introduced a couple of new friends, well one friend and his partner, who is a little more reserved.

My friend is Robin. He visits and inspects my work, picking up wee morsels that I have inadvertently unearthed. He first got within a metre and then, over time, gets stuck in right where the wee trowel went in. I stop and chat to him and he listens.

He perches on my leg and foot and a couple of nights ago, actually spoke to say goodnight!

Here are Mr and Ms Robin, for your delight!

https://youtu.be/kcXrrezMz2I
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Re: Getting Our Lives Back

Post by Burnley1989 » Sun May 17, 2020 9:45 am

I’ve not enjoyed the uncertainty in my companies future and pay but I’m just trying to remember we are almost all in the same boat and things will eventually get better. I Usually spend 3-4 days a week in my car driving up and down the country visiting customers so it’s been absolutely amazing spending so much time with my 2 & 6 year old, and at the same time very tiring.

Lucky to live in the countryside so I’m out training and walking everyday. The one thing that has surprised me is that my Mrs hasn’t annoyed me as much as I was worried she would and we haven’t fallen out yet :lol:

I’m not so sure what ‘normal’ will be going forward but I suspect it will be very different! I’ve done a lot of reading over the last few months on behaviour and mindset so I feel in a pretty good place for the challenges ahead!
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Re: Getting Our Lives Back

Post by Bfcboyo » Sun May 17, 2020 9:59 am

No Ney Never wrote:
Sat May 16, 2020 9:07 pm
I don't want things to get back to 'normal' yet, I'm really enjoying my time off. I'll be quite happy for another 6 months of this, I've worked hard enough for many years to deserve a bit of a rest. Apart from the couple of weeks off at Christmas, this is the most I've been relaxed for years.
2 days off a week is enough for me , I love my job love work and have a great balance. I appreciate my holidays and enjoy weeks away but as my Grandad used to say when I stop I will die when I asked him why he was still working so hard in his 80s. He was right but managed 94 after a world war and 30+ years down the pit , many years on the face.

Get tha sel ta work lad.
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Re: Getting Our Lives Back

Post by NottsClaret » Sun May 17, 2020 9:59 am

I honestly think in 18-24 months it’ll be like this never happened. I’m in a minority of one here, and possibly rightly so. One for someone to ‘bump’ in 2022.

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Re: Getting Our Lives Back

Post by IanMcL » Sun May 17, 2020 10:06 am

NottsClaret wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 9:59 am
I honestly think in 18-24 months it’ll be like this never happened. I’m in a minority of one here, and possibly rightly so. One for someone to ‘bump’ in 2022.
Life has to return or mankind is stuffed.
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Re: Getting Our Lives Back

Post by Swizzlestick » Sun May 17, 2020 10:28 am

IanMcL wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 9:27 am
My daily weeding has introduced a couple of new friends, well one friend and his partner, who is a little more reserved.

My friend is Robin. He visits and inspects my work, picking up wee morsels that I have inadvertently unearthed. He first got within a metre and then, over time, gets stuck in right where the wee trowel went in. I stop and chat to him and he listens.

He perches on my leg and foot and a couple of nights ago, actually spoke to say goodnight!

Here are Mr and Ms Robin, for your delight!

https://youtu.be/kcXrrezMz2I
Nice, wholesome content, Ian.
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Re: Getting Our Lives Back

Post by Grumps » Sun May 17, 2020 10:35 am

IanMcL wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 10:06 am
Life has to return or mankind is stuffed.
Listening to the doctors and scientists on tv this morning, if we shield the vulnerable, life could pretty much return to something like normal for the rest of society in the very near future.

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Re: Getting Our Lives Back

Post by claret2018 » Sun May 17, 2020 10:46 am

I could do another year of this. I’m still working, albeit from home full time but did this a lot anyway.

Enjoying the lack of travel to pointless meetings, sitting in traffic etc.

Am doing more exercise than I usually would, kids are quite happy with home schooling.

Not missing the football at all, which I thought I would be

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Re: Getting Our Lives Back

Post by bodge » Sun May 17, 2020 11:37 am

Whilst you wouldn't want this lifestyle via a global pandemic, it's been a long awaited kick up the arse for office culture.

Our company was starting to transform and look into home working and this has accelerated the process and not before time.

Let's get it right, companies will be encouraging home working in order to make savings in cutting down on office space, utility bills, paying for car parking etc but that's fair enough because i will be avoiding 3 hours in the car every day and the associated cost and reaping the benefits of a far healthier lifestyle involving much more exercise, more sleep and additional leisure time. Oh and you don't have to listen to the endless self promotion of dullards who love to inflict the latest David Brent corporate buzzwords on all and sundry around them.

This will transform white collar work and it's well overdue.
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Re: Getting Our Lives Back

Post by jackmiggins » Sun May 17, 2020 1:28 pm

Grumps wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 10:35 am
Listening to the doctors and scientists on tv this morning, if we shield the vulnerable, life could pretty much return to something like normal for the rest of society in the very near future.
That’s an interesting point of view. What do you think to the evidence of scarring to children’s lungs following infection?

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Re: Getting Our Lives Back

Post by CaptJohn » Sun May 17, 2020 1:43 pm

I have to admit I am gobsmacked at some of the comments on here.

I wish I lived in the bubble that some of you are in, that this is actually a good situation. The worlds economy has been trashed and their won't be many jobs that survive plus the cost to the government is mind boggling. Who's going to pick up the tab for it? Go look in the mirror for the answer.

I'm sorry guys and gals but this is devastation on a global scale. If it lasts for another six months, as someone has hoped for, we'll be living in the dark ages and the Premier league will be a thing of the past.
We'd all better hope for a miracle cure/vaccine soon because furloughing won't last much longer and reality will hit big time.

Stay in your bubbles because you'll sleep better for now.
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Re: Getting Our Lives Back

Post by Grumps » Sun May 17, 2020 2:05 pm

jackmiggins wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 1:28 pm
That’s an interesting point of view. What do you think to the evidence of scarring to children’s lungs following infection?
No view, as I've not seen the evidence

I was just pointing out what was said

No need for your daily dig

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Re: Getting Our Lives Back

Post by nyclaret » Sun May 17, 2020 2:08 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Sat May 16, 2020 10:37 pm
As soon as the BBC get something else to whinge about we should be back to normal in time all.

They didn't have enough deaths to talk about last week in England, Spain or Italy so started reporting on Africa.

Utter doom mongers.
Oooooook...

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Re: Getting Our Lives Back

Post by jackmiggins » Sun May 17, 2020 2:24 pm

Grumps wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 2:05 pm
No view, as I've not seen the evidence

I was just pointing out what was said

No need for your daily dig
Still not a clue to who you are, but it wasn’t your view, it was a statement as far as I was aware?

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Re: Getting Our Lives Back

Post by Grumps » Sun May 17, 2020 2:52 pm

jackmiggins wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 2:24 pm
Still not a clue to who you are, but it wasn’t your view, it was a statement as far as I was aware?
Nope...... Just saying what was said, no views.

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Re: Getting Our Lives Back

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sun May 17, 2020 4:31 pm

Grumps wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 10:35 am
Listening to the doctors and scientists on tv this morning, if we shield the vulnerable, life could pretty much return to something like normal for the rest of society in the very near future.
What was said and what was the logic? Purposely avoiding the news. And avoided this place before and during the peak. But any good news is welcome.

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Re: Getting Our Lives Back

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sun May 17, 2020 4:32 pm

NottsClaret wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 9:59 am
I honestly think in 18-24 months it’ll be like this never happened. I’m in a minority of one here, and possibly rightly so. One for someone to ‘bump’ in 2022.
While I don’t think it will be quite like that I think you aren’t far wrong.

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Re: Getting Our Lives Back

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sun May 17, 2020 4:39 pm

CaptJohn wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 1:43 pm
I have to admit I am gobsmacked at some of the comments on here.

I wish I lived in the bubble that some of you are in, that this is actually a good situation. The worlds economy has been trashed and their won't be many jobs that survive plus the cost to the government is mind boggling. Who's going to pick up the tab for it? Go look in the mirror for the answer.

I'm sorry guys and gals but this is devastation on a global scale. If it lasts for another six months, as someone has hoped for, we'll be living in the dark ages and the Premier league will be a thing of the past.
We'd all better hope for a miracle cure/vaccine soon because furloughing won't last much longer and reality will hit big time.

Stay in your bubbles because you'll sleep better for now.
While things won’t return to how they were any time soon and there will be struggle. I don’t see it being as doomsday as many suggest. It can’t happen.

There’s too many smart minds with unlimited access to every bit of information. You ever need through the internet. And too much technology and innovation.

Of course the scale of this is unseen. But so is the scale of collaboration between great minds. That’s not just science in fighting the diesease but will be the same from a business and technology point of view.

Besides with so much more flexible working people won’t need as much anyway.

I think consumerism may change to a degree. But I don’t think things will be as bad or far as long as many predict.

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Re: Getting Our Lives Back

Post by Squarepusher » Sun May 17, 2020 5:06 pm

IanMcL wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 10:06 am
Life has to return or mankind is stuffed.
Well, we had a good run.

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Re: Getting Our Lives Back

Post by IanMcL » Sun May 17, 2020 5:11 pm

Swizzlestick wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 10:28 am
Nice, wholesome content, Ian.
Thanks Swizzlestick.
I hate weeding...that's my gardening content, each year. However, I do a small bag a day, which doesn't take long, just so I get a visit from my new pal! Actually makes it a pleasurable experience.

He really did speak (not English) a couple of nights ago. He was inches away and had been in and out quite a few times. I was talking and he was listening. Turns his head and looks intently. When I stopped, he suddenly emitted a short sound, as though to say thanks and good night and then flew off for the night. No a chirp. Sounded like it meant something. Very short.

Must go. Two guys are ringing the door bell. Might be the White Tide Man, as they are wearing white coats!
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Re: Getting Our Lives Back

Post by Grumps » Sun May 17, 2020 5:13 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 4:31 pm
What was said and what was the logic? Purposely avoiding the news. And avoided this place before and during the peak. But any good news is welcome.
That the majority of cases now are from the vulnerable sector, including ones they are finding out about, such as diabetes. The head scientist from the WHO, a pediatrician was confident children and teachers would be safe at school. Everything is reliant on social distancing. And could vary region to region.
If pushed, I would say it won't happen quickly, I can see an outcry if part of society are kept locked away whilst others gradually start going about their daily routines
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Re: Getting Our Lives Back

Post by dougcollins » Sun May 17, 2020 5:15 pm

bodge wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 11:37 am
Whilst you wouldn't want this lifestyle via a global pandemic, it's been a long awaited kick up the arse for office culture.

Our company was starting to transform and look into home working and this has accelerated the process and not before time.

Let's get it right, companies will be encouraging home working in order to make savings in cutting down on office space, utility bills, paying for car parking etc but that's fair enough because i will be avoiding 3 hours in the car every day and the associated cost and reaping the benefits of a far healthier lifestyle involving much more exercise, more sleep and additional leisure time. Oh and you don't have to listen to the endless self promotion of dullards who love to inflict the latest David Brent corporate buzzwords on all and sundry around them.

This will transform white collar work and it's well overdue.

Until you're designated officially as a 'home worker' and subsequently suffer substantial reduction in employment rights. Happened to some of my colleagues.

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Re: Getting Our Lives Back

Post by bodge » Sun May 17, 2020 5:26 pm

What did that entail doug ?

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Re: Getting Our Lives Back

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sun May 17, 2020 5:33 pm

Grumps wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 5:13 pm
That the majority of cases now are from the vulnerable sector, including ones they are finding out about, such as diabetes. The head scientist from the WHO, a pediatrician was confident children and teachers would be safe at school. Everything is reliant on social distancing. And could vary region to region.
If pushed, I would say it won't happen quickly, I can see an outcry if part of society are kept locked away whilst others gradually start going about their daily routines
Let’s hope some normality resumes soon and social distancing is gone by the end of the year.

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