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ARTICLE: Moving into the 1980s

Post by ClaretTony » Tue May 19, 2020 11:39 am

Results, league tables and programme covers now added for the first five seasons in the 1980s

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https://www.uptheclarets.com/moving-into-the-1980s


Please let me know if you spot any errors

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Re: ARTICLE: Moving into the 1980s

Post by randomclaret2 » Tue May 19, 2020 12:37 pm

That 5 year period was surely one of the strangest and most turbulent in our history...talk about a roller coaster ride. From falling into the Lower Divisions for the first time ever, to the false dawn of promotion, then the surreal 82/3 season of relegation but amazing Cup runs...not to mention the managerial shenanigans, and of course all ending up with us in the Fourth Division for the first time. We also saw some our best and worst players in living memory...Has there ever been a 5 year spell of such highs and lows ?

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Re: ARTICLE: Moving into the 1980s

Post by ClaretTony » Tue May 19, 2020 1:49 pm

Not many highs though - just the promotion in 1981/82. Despite the cup wins, the following season was nothing short of a disaster. Three times we were beaten in five consecutive league games and once more on four occasions.

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Re: ARTICLE: Moving into the 1980s

Post by mdd2 » Tue May 19, 2020 1:55 pm

Wasn't John Bond manager at Swansea when we were relegated to Division 4?

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Post by Wokingclaret » Tue May 19, 2020 3:35 pm

Bond only lasted one season....Benson took us down

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Re: ARTICLE: Moving into the 1980s

Post by Wokingclaret » Tue May 19, 2020 3:38 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Tue May 19, 2020 1:49 pm
Not many highs though - just the promotion in 1981/82. Despite the cup wins, the following season was nothing short of a disaster. Three times we were beaten in five consecutive league games and once more on four occasions.
Basis of a great squad that needed a few additions in the right area's and we would have been fine, also as stated on the Miller manager thread, Big Vince was a big loss that season.

Started good with a couple of big wins, but then we dropped

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Post by ClaretTony » Tue May 19, 2020 3:55 pm

Wokingclaret wrote:
Tue May 19, 2020 3:38 pm
Basis of a great squad that needed a few additions in the right area's and we would have been fine, also as stated on the Miller manager thread, Big Vince was a big loss that season.

Started good with a couple of big wins, but then we dropped
Losing Vince left us defensively poor. Laws & Wharton had proved to be very good at full back when we played with a back five but were found out defensively with just a four.

Good players that they were, Dobson & Phelan were not a defensive pair in a back four and behind them we had Stevenson who was dreadful for a lot of that season.

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Re: ARTICLE: Moving into the 1980s

Post by ClaretTony » Tue May 19, 2020 4:02 pm

mdd2 wrote:
Tue May 19, 2020 1:55 pm
Wasn't John Bond manager at Swansea when we were relegated to Division 4?
Yes and he had Tommy Hutchison there as well. Whatever Bond was or wasn’t, giving Benson the job was a suicidal decision.

In 1982/83 Bond left Man City at the beginning of Feb when they were in the top half. Benson took over and by May they’d been relegated. His record was played 17, won 3, drew 2, lost 12.

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Post by Wokingclaret » Tue May 19, 2020 4:09 pm

Hutch was still with us at that time. But yes, Benson was a suicidal decision with what was a very good squad on paper at least

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Post by ClaretTony » Tue May 19, 2020 4:13 pm

Wokingclaret wrote:
Tue May 19, 2020 4:09 pm
Hutch was still with us at that time. But yes, Benson was a suicidal decision with what was a very good squad on paper at least
Course he was - was offered the manager's job when Benson went, then found out they'd given it to someone else. Decided to walk then and went to Swansea where, despite his age at nearly 38 when he left us, he went on to play another 178 league games.

It was Barry Powell who had already joined Bond at Swansea.

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Post by Wokingclaret » Tue May 19, 2020 4:17 pm

178 incredible! & 92 league games for us out of 92

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Post by ClaretTony » Tue May 19, 2020 4:31 pm

Wokingclaret wrote:
Tue May 19, 2020 4:17 pm
178 incredible! & 92 league games for us out of 92
As you say, didn't miss a game for us in two seasons and then played all those games for Swansea and still continued playing after that in non-league. Burnley fans had no time for him initially but he won them over.

He was told by Teasdale that the job was his when Benson left then heard that we'd given it to Buchan. Buchan then offered him a coaching role and he told him where to get off and went to Swansea.

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Post by groove » Tue May 19, 2020 4:42 pm

Good pro was Hutchison. Played over a thousand first team games in his career and was a decent player for us from what I remember.
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Post by ClaretTony » Tue May 19, 2020 4:46 pm

groove wrote:
Tue May 19, 2020 4:42 pm
Good pro was Hutchison. Played over a thousand first team games in his career and was a decent player for us from what I remember.
I thought he was outstanding for us - quite how we went down with the likes of him, Phelan, Overson, Hird, Taylor in the team takes some believing but then you see the name Benson.

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Post by Wokingclaret » Tue May 19, 2020 4:51 pm

I forget, was Reeves going to be his assistant. Couldn't of worked out any worse than what happened with Buchan! who had brought in Cavanagh....
oh i will be reading all this in the next week or so on your manager threads

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Re: ARTICLE: Moving into the 1980s

Post by Wokingclaret » Tue May 19, 2020 4:55 pm

Scotty was still around at the beginning and he didn't play Flynn so he left. We still had Biggins too.

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Re: ARTICLE: Moving into the 1980s

Post by ClaretTony » Tue May 19, 2020 5:06 pm

Wokingclaret wrote:
Tue May 19, 2020 4:55 pm
Scotty was still around at the beginning and he didn't play Flynn so he left. We still had Biggins too.
He sidelined Flynny which was downright ridiculous. Scott & Biggins were there all the way through the season. Also refused to play Alan Taylor for much of the season.

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Re: ARTICLE: Moving into the 1980s

Post by bfcjg » Wed May 20, 2020 12:54 pm

The board appointed some truly horrendous managers Benson Cavanagh and Buchan also some seriously wrong appointments such as Bond wrong man wrong club.

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Re: ARTICLE: Moving into the 1980s

Post by Petersa » Wed May 20, 2020 1:29 pm

Did anyone play for Burnley in all 4 divisions?
I've got Dobson Stevenson Scott Flynn in 1,2and3
James and Rodaway in 1,2 and 4
Overson Davis Pender and Taylor in 2,3and 4
Have I missed anyone? Perhaps Jakub? Kindon?

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Post by ClaretTony » Wed May 20, 2020 1:40 pm

Petersa wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 1:29 pm
Did anyone play for Burnley in all 4 divisions?
I've got Dobson Stevenson Scott Flynn in 1,2and3
James and Rodaway in 1,2 and 4
Overson Davis Pender and Taylor in 2,3and 4
Have I missed anyone? Perhaps Jakub? Kindon?
Billy Rodaway was the first to play for us in all four divisions and the only one since is Joe Jakub.

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Re: ARTICLE: Moving into the 1980s

Post by Petersa » Wed May 20, 2020 4:04 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 1:40 pm
Billy Rodaway was the first to play for us in all four divisions and the only one since is Joe Jakub.
Many thanks CT....Let's hope they are the last!

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Re: ARTICLE: Moving into the 1980s

Post by ClaretTony » Wed May 20, 2020 5:12 pm

Petersa wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 4:04 pm
Many thanks CT....Let's hope they are the last!
I sincerely hope so.

On the subject of playing in three divisions - I've come up with this list

Martin Dobson
Leighton James
Jim Thomson
Brian Flynn
Derek Scott
Derrick Parker
Vince Overson
Steve Taylor
David Miller
John Deary
John Pender
Steve Davis II
Adrian Randall
John Francis

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