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Being over 60
Just a question for all the wrinklies on here,(I'm sure there is many)since I retired at the age of 62 I never wake up these days without pain, up to me finishing work I was pretty fit,never had anytime off work,hardly visited the docs,did my job no problem,since I've retired my body seems to have given up all my joints ache I'm a grumpy old man,I'm lazy,getting fat,less tolerable,the attention span of a gnat,cant put my own socks on,wake up at seven and forget if I've taken the dogs out earlier,and many many more things I didnt do 2 years ago when I was active.....is this a normal progression of life,am I normal?do you think I can turn my life around,I'd love you guys to share your "over 60 stories" to put my mind at rest I think I may be losing it,can anyone reassure me it's a normal progression......cheers you old farts.
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If you’re lazy what do expect?
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I'm over 60 with none of those problems.
Better get yourself checked out mate!
Better get yourself checked out mate!
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May be ‘stiffening up’ due to not being used in the same way. Keep active. Physically and mentally. And I’m sure things will ease. May be your body getting used to not being worked.
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No not really , now kind of forget more things than i ever did for sure biut still happy working away .
Yep you have to keep active is very good advice i must say .
Yep you have to keep active is very good advice i must say .
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When you said you never wake up without pain I thought you must have been on about the mrs.
Get walking, 10k a day is easy enough to achieve and you're in a nice area
Get walking, 10k a day is easy enough to achieve and you're in a nice area
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Since lockdown, you are describing me to a tee. However prior to this, after officially retiring, I set up a part time business just 2 days a week and it seemed to hold all above symptoms at bay
Consider PT job or volunteer your services for a couple of days
It does give you a purpose but plenty of time to enjoy retirement
How about fruit picking for Britain?
Consider PT job or volunteer your services for a couple of days
It does give you a purpose but plenty of time to enjoy retirement
How about fruit picking for Britain?
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My pain could be a consequence of my job it was quite physical and then to suddenly stop working my body might be because of this,I'm rather shocked at the small amount of replies that no one suffers pain on waking,I have terrible muscle pain which might be down to about 15 years of taking stains,and the recent lockdown has killed my enthusiasm to go out...its a struggle,I've always been active and always walked to work instead of driving ,I just wanted other people's experiences of being over 60...I think I could be in troubleclaretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2020 11:04 amWhen you said you never wake up without pain I thought you must have been on about the mrs.
Get walking, 10k a day is easy enough to achieve and you're in a nice area
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Re: Being over 60
Volvo's got it.
Get some fruit picked. You'll have the thanks of our Royal Claret.
Get some fruit picked. You'll have the thanks of our Royal Claret.
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Re: Being over 60
Up here those jobs are all done by eastern Europeans and I'm English,they just laugh at me!Buxtonclaret wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2020 11:13 amVolvo's got it.
Get some fruit picked. You'll have the thanks of our Royal Claret.
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If it helps I am quite a bit off 60 so I may feel the same as you when I get that old ( i mean age ) I love being out with the dogs, walking is so much easier when you can see and hear the sea, remember no pain no gain.Steve1956 wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2020 11:11 amMy pain could be a consequence of my job it was quite physical and then to suddenly stop working my body might be because of this,I'm rather shocked at the small amount of replies that no one suffers pain on waking,I have terrible muscle pain which might be down to about 15 years of taking stains,and the recent lockdown has killed my enthusiasm to go out...its a struggle,I've always been active and always walked to work instead of driving ,I just wanted other people's experiences of being over 60...I think I could be in trouble
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There you go then.
As well as picking some fruit, you can do a Hungarian language course as well!
Sorted.
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Bloody hell Buxton are you my long lost twin????
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Well Steve you did ask so what did you expect.
I've been finished 4 years now and apart from being a Fat Grumpy Old Bast**d (I was that before I retired just ask the Mrs) none of your symptoms, mind you you're 2 years older than me.
I never was an exercise nut before so wasn't going to start now. Apart from my daily stroll up to the village or down to the river.....
I do find I still have a bit of stiffness though when I wake up in the morning (it usually subsides after going for a pee ) the doctor says its a good sign in a man of my age .
I can still put my own socks on don't have dogs to forget about.
Keep my mind active with crosswords and puzzles.
Looking after the lawns etc in the garden.
I love being retired
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Don't worry about it Steve the good times are just beginning the aches and pains are probably a result of living in this area, a month in Portugal and you're a different man. After 60 you are invited to undergo various checks and tests such as bowel screening, abdominal aorta and others it's all for our benefit. Lots of our countrymen knock our state personally being over 60 this is a great place to be.
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sex, drugs and rock and roll... and I'm 75...
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Re: Being over 60
Steve, I retired at 62, over 11 years ago and all my mates said that I wouldn't adapt. How wrong they were!
I do suffer from arthritic knees because of all the sport I played and also standing or marching around with a 40lb tuba for 23 years, however, I manage to walk over 6 miles per day, go out on my mountain bike or, if it is too windy, use my indoor cycle for exercise. I am involved with SSAFA Forces Help as a voluntary caseworker and find that this keeps my mind occupied and feet firmly on the ground with some of the sad cases I encounter. It is a really good feeling when you are able to help these people.
One thing I have resisted several times is my doctor trying to prescribe statins for no other reason that he said that the government want everyone above a certain age to be taking statins. Arguing with them about this is the only time my blood pressure is high!
I do ache sometimes in the morning, surely that is normal at my age, however, I am lucky because I am able to just get on with life and enjoy it. Waken up in the morning and be happy ---the day I don't ----it won't be my problem!
There is no easy answer though because we are all different and have to find our own comfort zone. Good luck anyway.
I do suffer from arthritic knees because of all the sport I played and also standing or marching around with a 40lb tuba for 23 years, however, I manage to walk over 6 miles per day, go out on my mountain bike or, if it is too windy, use my indoor cycle for exercise. I am involved with SSAFA Forces Help as a voluntary caseworker and find that this keeps my mind occupied and feet firmly on the ground with some of the sad cases I encounter. It is a really good feeling when you are able to help these people.
One thing I have resisted several times is my doctor trying to prescribe statins for no other reason that he said that the government want everyone above a certain age to be taking statins. Arguing with them about this is the only time my blood pressure is high!
I do ache sometimes in the morning, surely that is normal at my age, however, I am lucky because I am able to just get on with life and enjoy it. Waken up in the morning and be happy ---the day I don't ----it won't be my problem!
There is no easy answer though because we are all different and have to find our own comfort zone. Good luck anyway.
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Re: Being over 60
Those bowel tests are very embarrassing asking the wife to catch one of your stools on a lolly stick,shes not very good at it.LordBob wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2020 11:39 amDon't worry about it Steve the good times are just beginning the aches and pains are probably a result of living in this area, a month in Portugal and you're a different man. After 60 you are invited to undergo various checks and tests such as bowel screening, abdominal aorta and others it's all for our benefit. Lots of our countrymen knock our state personally being over 60 this is a great place to be.
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Just realised that my bowel screening kit hasn't arrived this year. Last one I had was in early 2018. Have they brought the abdominal aortic aneurysm ultrasound scan forward, I got mine when I was 65.LordBob wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2020 11:39 amDon't worry about it Steve the good times are just beginning the aches and pains are probably a result of living in this area, a month in Portugal and you're a different man. After 60 you are invited to undergo various checks and tests such as bowel screening, abdominal aorta and others it's all for our benefit. Lots of our countrymen knock our state personally being over 60 this is a great place to be.
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Re: Being over 60
I am 66 and exercise as hard as I did 30 years ago several times a week. I walk everywhere and at a pace and if I rely on motorised transport, it's a motorcycle. In short, I do everything I did in my 20s. And I spring out of bed with no aches and pains. If you act like you're an old man, that's what you become.
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Re: Being over 60
So what you are really saying Dave is
Sex = Eastenders on the TV .
Drugs = taking a cocktail of about eight four times a day for everything this is or maybe wrong with you at 75 .
Rock = hardly takes much to get you to sleep .
Roll = Jam or Swiss hard to say .
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I retired at 65 in December last year. Up until lockdown I was fine, playing golf 3 times a week plenty of walking etc. Since lockdown I have had the morning pains you mention but i'm putting this down to the sudden surge in garden and DIY projects i've undertaken to keep busy during lockdown. These projects are now nearly all done thankfully so hopefully the aches and pains will subside but some of this is just down to ageing I guess so we'll just crack on.
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Try doing more exercise than you are currently doing. Start reading and read books that challenge your mind. Do you spend too much of your time on here? If so, log-on a couple of times a day and not for hours on end. Take up a new hobby and one that gets you outdoors.Steve1956 wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2020 10:46 amJust a question for all the wrinklies on here,(I'm sure there is many)since I retired at the age of 62 I never wake up these days without pain, up to me finishing work I was pretty fit,never had anytime off work,hardly visited the docs,did my job no problem,since I've retired my body seems to have given up all my joints ache I'm a grumpy old man,I'm lazy,getting fat,less tolerable
A bit of light swimming is good for the joints - maybe go to a swimming pool a couple of times a week once we're out of the C-19 woods. Going back to reading; I can't stress highly enough how this will improve both your memory and concentration.
A bit less telly and forum, more reading and exercise.
Regards,
Dr. Balfour
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I retired at 50. Best choice ever, although it had been planned for many moons. Being hyper-active it just gave me more time to indulge in the things I love.
As said above keeping your body and mind active is the key. Our bodies age differently. What works for one won’t work for another. You’re enjoying your photography so spread your wings a bit. A 20 mile drive And a 10k walk would open up your lens to all the beauty up there.
Take care.
As said above keeping your body and mind active is the key. Our bodies age differently. What works for one won’t work for another. You’re enjoying your photography so spread your wings a bit. A 20 mile drive And a 10k walk would open up your lens to all the beauty up there.
Take care.
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I spend way to much time on here Dr BelfourBilly Balfour wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2020 12:20 pmTry doing more exercise than you are currently doing. Start reading and read books that challenge your mind. Do you spend too much of your time on here? If so, log-on a couple of times a day and not for hours on end. Take up a new hobby and one that gets you outdoors.
A bit of light swimming is good for the joints - maybe go to a swimming pool a couple of times a week once we're out of the C-19 woods. Going back to reading; I can't stress highly enough how this will improve both your memory and concentration.
A bit less telly and forum, more reading and exercise.
Regards,
Dr. Belfour
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I’ll add from my earlier post.
Baring in mind I’m nowhere near retirement yet. But during this lockdown I’ve had weeks where I lacked motivation. Did nothing for a week. Woke up without a spring in my step. Grumpy. Then other weeks I’ve had jobs that needed doing. Got up feeling fine, ate better and generally felt much better.
Do you have any interests other than football? Maybe setting yourself targets each week. Maybe even join a gym (not talking going everyday for hours) but maybe 2/3 times a week for half any hour/hour. You said you like walking the dogs? If so get yourself a camera, take some photos. Can even stretch it to a film camera (yes they’re still alive) Waiting for the results will give you something to look forward to too. There’s also 100s of film stocks to mess with so even if you take the same walk you can still experiment as you go.
Baring in mind I’m nowhere near retirement yet. But during this lockdown I’ve had weeks where I lacked motivation. Did nothing for a week. Woke up without a spring in my step. Grumpy. Then other weeks I’ve had jobs that needed doing. Got up feeling fine, ate better and generally felt much better.
Do you have any interests other than football? Maybe setting yourself targets each week. Maybe even join a gym (not talking going everyday for hours) but maybe 2/3 times a week for half any hour/hour. You said you like walking the dogs? If so get yourself a camera, take some photos. Can even stretch it to a film camera (yes they’re still alive) Waiting for the results will give you something to look forward to too. There’s also 100s of film stocks to mess with so even if you take the same walk you can still experiment as you go.
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Re: Being over 60
Hi Steve1956, just wanted to say that I know exactly where you are coming from. I identify with some of the detail in your opening post, but I can add that after being on that slippery slope myself, I eventually got off and now I’m back on the escalator going back up.
I’ve just turned 68. I suffered from a degree of depression from the age of 40, probably an accumulation of life events and somewhere along that road of very gradual mental health decline, that continued until I realised that I needed some level of intervention. So in July 2009 I went to my GP who diagnosed that I was suffering from depression, so I spoke with my manager at work and made an appointment with Occupational Health.
The outcome of that was that I was advised to reduce my career workload. Unfortunately back at work I feel that although there was a token gesture made to comply it only focused my manager to put my work performance under the microscope. My workload was reduced by 20% but it became obvious later, with hindsight, that I needed more help as the level of depression increased. 12 months later my work performance was criticised and I was subjected to disciplinary procedures. At my hearing although it was acknowledged that 90% of my work was of top quality, that 10% of my work was below an acceptable level despite official warnings. I’d never had a day off, big mistake, but I couldn’t lift myself on the aforementioned 10% of my caseload. It had become a mental block despite my knowing what the consequences would be. I lost my job. Was I supported as well as I should have been, probably not. 17 years in 4 different departments working with up to 8 managers and no previous concerns. I was told that I could appeal the decision but only had 6 months to action an ‘unfair dismissal’ action. My depression made me decide not to go down that avenue and for a long time from March 2011 I was a little bit broken.
All this of course affected my home life, but in Jan 2011 I met my now wife and she has been a tremendous support.
In Feb 2019 my doctor and I, after almost 10 years of medication decided that I was ready to be weaned off the medication.
Since that day my world has just improved beyond belief. In those 10 years I’d had 4 or 5 seasonal short term jobs just to keep up my work ethic. Then in Sept 2019 I started a job, a 5 day driving job and now I know that if if a full-time post became available, I would be capable of doing it. I have my enthusiasm for life back and despite some occasional arthritic pain my mental health is now fully restored, so there is light at the end of the tunnel for me.
I would suggest having a chat with your doctor as a little temporary help might get you to where you want to be sooner rather than later. Apologies for all the cliches.
I’ve just turned 68. I suffered from a degree of depression from the age of 40, probably an accumulation of life events and somewhere along that road of very gradual mental health decline, that continued until I realised that I needed some level of intervention. So in July 2009 I went to my GP who diagnosed that I was suffering from depression, so I spoke with my manager at work and made an appointment with Occupational Health.
The outcome of that was that I was advised to reduce my career workload. Unfortunately back at work I feel that although there was a token gesture made to comply it only focused my manager to put my work performance under the microscope. My workload was reduced by 20% but it became obvious later, with hindsight, that I needed more help as the level of depression increased. 12 months later my work performance was criticised and I was subjected to disciplinary procedures. At my hearing although it was acknowledged that 90% of my work was of top quality, that 10% of my work was below an acceptable level despite official warnings. I’d never had a day off, big mistake, but I couldn’t lift myself on the aforementioned 10% of my caseload. It had become a mental block despite my knowing what the consequences would be. I lost my job. Was I supported as well as I should have been, probably not. 17 years in 4 different departments working with up to 8 managers and no previous concerns. I was told that I could appeal the decision but only had 6 months to action an ‘unfair dismissal’ action. My depression made me decide not to go down that avenue and for a long time from March 2011 I was a little bit broken.
All this of course affected my home life, but in Jan 2011 I met my now wife and she has been a tremendous support.
In Feb 2019 my doctor and I, after almost 10 years of medication decided that I was ready to be weaned off the medication.
Since that day my world has just improved beyond belief. In those 10 years I’d had 4 or 5 seasonal short term jobs just to keep up my work ethic. Then in Sept 2019 I started a job, a 5 day driving job and now I know that if if a full-time post became available, I would be capable of doing it. I have my enthusiasm for life back and despite some occasional arthritic pain my mental health is now fully restored, so there is light at the end of the tunnel for me.
I would suggest having a chat with your doctor as a little temporary help might get you to where you want to be sooner rather than later. Apologies for all the cliches.
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I'm due another game of poosticks in August.ClaretTony wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2020 11:58 amJust realised that my bowel screening kit hasn't arrived this year. Last one I had was in early 2018. Have they brought the abdominal aortic aneurysm ultrasound scan forward, I got mine when I was 65.
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Yes but have you told the Mrs what you get up to.
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CT. I had a letter saying the bowl screening kit will be sent in due course, apparently due to the current pandemic we have to wait a little longer. Blimey, we do find some things to discussClaretTony wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2020 11:58 amJust realised that my bowel screening kit hasn't arrived this year. Last one I had was in early 2018. Have they brought the abdominal aortic aneurysm ultrasound scan forward, I got mine when I was 65.
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I will be 67 in June.
Being a cllr keeps my mind active. Lots to read! Things to sort.
I deliver a newsletter to every home in my ward, twice a year. That is a lot of walking!
However, since lock in, the council is covid or nothing, so not the same at all.
My partner does crosswords and passes them to me to finish off. Reading. All helps concentration, although that does suffer.
Walking....can't be bothered, so my partner and I have to force ourselves. She does not walk fast though. I have also begun to creak. Pain in one calf. Lack of exercise, for sure.
The cant be bothered syndrome leads to boredom and comfort eating....
All in all, I think we both need to start with some exercise and do more things to occupy ourselves. Good luck!
Being a cllr keeps my mind active. Lots to read! Things to sort.
I deliver a newsletter to every home in my ward, twice a year. That is a lot of walking!
However, since lock in, the council is covid or nothing, so not the same at all.
My partner does crosswords and passes them to me to finish off. Reading. All helps concentration, although that does suffer.
Walking....can't be bothered, so my partner and I have to force ourselves. She does not walk fast though. I have also begun to creak. Pain in one calf. Lack of exercise, for sure.
The cant be bothered syndrome leads to boredom and comfort eating....
All in all, I think we both need to start with some exercise and do more things to occupy ourselves. Good luck!
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I’d forgotten about it to be honest but I was 68 in January but have heard nothing.
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If you like playing football and want to keep active, plus meet new people, look up a local walking football league
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If you are over the age of 65 forget "Stay Alert" just try and "Stay Awake".
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Re: Being over 60
I’m 62 and I drink a little more than I should so I blame any problems on that. My recommendations are -
Wear sunscreen
Get a dog - that’s your exercise sorted
Do not go to the Gym
Stretch
Read or do crosswords / sudoko etc
Drink plenty of water - no excuses
Avoid red meat
Eat more fruit and veg
And trust me about the sunscreen
Wear sunscreen
Get a dog - that’s your exercise sorted
Do not go to the Gym
Stretch
Read or do crosswords / sudoko etc
Drink plenty of water - no excuses
Avoid red meat
Eat more fruit and veg
And trust me about the sunscreen
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Re: Being over 60
Prime of life I'm 62 also, and despite the virus restrictions here in Philly, the 9 weeks that I have been on furlough have certainly shown me that I will have no problem at all with being retired if I can ever get into a position to do so. Even though I have only been working as a driver for the last 4 years - got out of 30+ years in journalism 12 months before everyone lost their jobs where I was working - the days are wonderfully stress free. I have tried to get into a rhythm of being up at a reasonable time (like by 8.30) and alternating a 1-hour walk one day with a 1-hour workout in the house the next. (Can't do my long runs anymore since I wore out a hip and had to have it replaced, sigh).
Lots of listening to music, reading (went through the Western stories of Elmore Leonard and now into a superb series of murder dramas by Tana French), try to get out for a decent walk with Mrs C. every day (she has been making many face masks) and currently am putting together a book of grandad's "memories" for my young granddaughter. Supposed to be on furlough through the end of June, and that is just fine by me.
Lots of listening to music, reading (went through the Western stories of Elmore Leonard and now into a superb series of murder dramas by Tana French), try to get out for a decent walk with Mrs C. every day (she has been making many face masks) and currently am putting together a book of grandad's "memories" for my young granddaughter. Supposed to be on furlough through the end of June, and that is just fine by me.
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Doing just great and very thankful for it !
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69 and still keeping going.. Love my walking and cycling and also a bit of gardening as long as the old knees keep working.. Do have some aches,but I guess that goes with the territory..
3 mile walk this morning ,4 mile in the afternoon and followed by an easy 8 mile cycle tonight after tea.. The Weather was to good to rest in. Get out and keep going ..
3 mile walk this morning ,4 mile in the afternoon and followed by an easy 8 mile cycle tonight after tea.. The Weather was to good to rest in. Get out and keep going ..
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Re: Being over 60
68.
I can find nothing positive in getting old.
I can find nothing positive in getting old.
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Re: Being over 60
boatshed bill wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2020 10:24 pm68.
I can find nothing positive in getting old.
Trouble is, there's only one alternative and that's worse.
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Re: Being over 60
I don't know how you got on my quote, but there is an obvious alternative which is to accept that it's totally crap and live with it.
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Re: Being over 60
Ashingtonclaret46 wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2020 11:54 amSteve, I retired at 62, over 11 years ago and all my mates said that I wouldn't adapt. How wrong they were!
I do suffer from arthritic knees because of all the sport I played and also standing or marching around with a 40lb tuba for 23 years, however, I manage to walk over 6 miles per day, go out on my mountain bike or, if it is too windy, use my indoor cycle for exercise. I am involved with SSAFA Forces Help as a voluntary caseworker and find that this keeps my mind occupied and feet firmly on the ground with some of the sad cases I encounter. It is a really good feeling when you are able to help these people.
One thing I have resisted several times is my doctor trying to prescribe statins for no other reason that he said that the government want everyone above a certain age to be taking statins. Arguing with them about this is the only time my blood pressure is high!
I do ache sometimes in the morning, surely that is normal at my age, however, I am lucky because I am able to just get on with life and enjoy it. Waken up in the morning and be happy ---the day I don't ----it won't be my problem!
There is no easy answer though because we are all different and have to find our own comfort zone. Good luck anyway.
40 lb tuba !!! that's a hell of a big potato
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Re: Being over 60
I’m going thin on top and my doctor told me to start wearing a hat. Good advice on the sunscreen.
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Re: Being over 60
I recall a big push on statins roughly 20 years ago...I was once invited to a free health check up at the chemist I entered some time after.why not I thought I'm in good nick....I left shocked at what they told me..like I was at deaths Door!!! Load of Bollo x.....they were legitimately pushing statins as were the Doctors.....I'd been and come off em some time earlier. There lies possibly your muscle pain. Yes I get back pain when it's bad its bad but other than that ( and the tooth ache) I'm fine..still decorating hard on the knees but it is what it is.if you tell yourself you've retired Amen. I think your move away as isolated you a little also. Atb!Steve1956 wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2020 11:11 amMy pain could be a consequence of my job it was quite physical and then to suddenly stop working my body might be because of this,I'm rather shocked at the small amount of replies that no one suffers pain on waking,I have terrible muscle pain which might be down to about 15 years of taking stains,and the recent lockdown has killed my enthusiasm to go out...its a struggle,I've always been active and always walked to work instead of driving ,I just wanted other people's experiences of being over 60...I think I could be in trouble
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Re: Being over 60
Following on from above. I did a pre-retirement course where they were pushy about you taking glucosamine for your joints. Listen to your doctor would be my advice. 17 years later and I still don’t need them.
Re: Being over 60
I have a friend who was advised to use statins and he had also sorts of muscle pains which he attributed to them. Stopped statins despite his doctor's advice and no more muscle pains. Anecdotal, yes, but it does seem that statins have been pushed on people a bit hard.tim_noone wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2020 11:28 pmI recall a big push on statins roughly 20 years ago...I was once invited to a free health check up at the chemist I entered some time after.why not I thought I'm in good nick....I left shocked at what they told me..like I was at deaths Door!!! Load of Bollo x.....they were legitimately pushing statins as were the Doctors.....I'd been and come off em some time earlier. There lies possibly your muscle pain. Yes I get back pain when it's bad its bad but other than that ( and the tooth ache) I'm fine..still decorating hard on the knees but it is what it is.if you tell yourself you've retired Amen. I think your move away as isolated you a little also. Atb!
One issue with retiring from physical work is that whilst working your body seems to be able to handle almost any amount of crap food mixed in with the good food. When you retire and reduce your activity this ability to cope with poor food is reduced. I found I had to eat better to feel better, both mentally and physically. I was never very health conscious as far as food goes but now I am.