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Dominic Cummings

Post by conyoviejo » Mon May 25, 2020 5:04 pm

Stuttering his way through interview after interview as his nose grows longer than Pinnochio's.. :D

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Re: Dominic Cummings

Post by Pimlico_Claret » Mon May 25, 2020 5:11 pm

On the Covid thread

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Re: Dominic Cummings

Post by wilks_bfc » Mon May 25, 2020 5:12 pm

The stories told on Jackanory are more believable than this

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Re: Dominic Cummings

Post by conyoviejo » Mon May 25, 2020 5:18 pm

He was 95% sure he stopped on the way back for petrol,but not certain. FFS.. :lol: :lol:

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Re: Dominic Cummings

Post by conyoviejo » Mon May 25, 2020 5:19 pm

Pimlico_Claret wrote:
Mon May 25, 2020 5:11 pm
On the Covid thread
TBF Pimlico,this guy deserves a thread of his own.. :D
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Re: Dominic Cummings

Post by clarethrough » Mon May 25, 2020 5:20 pm

can crawl under a slugs belly wearing a top hat
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Re: Dominic Cummings

Post by Burnley Ace » Mon May 25, 2020 5:27 pm

The Labour hate mob are gathering outside his house spewing bile whilst waving their pitchforks!
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Re: Dominic Cummings

Post by Burnley Ace » Mon May 25, 2020 5:29 pm

conyoviejo wrote:
Mon May 25, 2020 5:18 pm
He was 95% sure he stopped on the way back for petrol,but not certain. FFS.. :lol: :lol:
And? We’re petrol stations closed? I’ve filled up my car what’s the big deal. “Man goes to petrol station” hold the front page!

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Re: Dominic Cummings

Post by conyoviejo » Mon May 25, 2020 5:30 pm

Burnley Ace wrote:
Mon May 25, 2020 5:27 pm
The Labour hate mob are gathering outside his house spewing bile whilst waving their pitchforks!
Yes,that's disgusting threatening his family, but if Boris had done right and sacked him,this wouldn't have happened.. The truth is Boris is phooked without him and will do all he can to keep him..

It will be interesting to see how it all pans out. ;)

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Re: Dominic Cummings

Post by Steve1956 » Mon May 25, 2020 5:36 pm

clarethrough wrote:
Mon May 25, 2020 5:20 pm
can crawl under a slugs belly wearing a top hat
Had to log in to love that :lol:
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Re: Dominic Cummings

Post by Buxtonclaret » Mon May 25, 2020 5:38 pm

Lockdown for all.
We're all equally in it.
Just that some are more equal than others....

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Re: Dominic Cummings

Post by Vegas Claret » Mon May 25, 2020 5:42 pm

**** loads of people have abused the lockdown in the UK every single day, I've not followed any of this because I'm bored of it tbh, but the UK does like a scapegoat
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Re: Dominic Cummings

Post by timshorts » Mon May 25, 2020 5:43 pm

Was that Prince Andrew wearing a mask?

Unless I missed it, was he asked why, if he was going on a test drive to Barnard Castle, he needed to take his wife and the child.

If the Scottish woman got the push, so should he. At least she knew that what she had done went against the policy and was apologetic about it.

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Re: Dominic Cummings

Post by joey13 » Mon May 25, 2020 5:47 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Mon May 25, 2020 5:42 pm
**** loads of people have abused the lockdown in the UK every single day, I've not followed any of this because I'm bored of it tbh, but the UK does like a scapegoat
Yes but they didn’t determine the rules in the first place :roll:

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Re: Dominic Cummings

Post by Burnley Ace » Mon May 25, 2020 5:48 pm

timshorts wrote:
Mon May 25, 2020 5:43 pm
If the Scottish woman got the push, so should he. At least she knew that what she had done went against the policy and was apologetic about it.
She didn’t get the push she resigned having gone, twice, to her weekend cottage. Not the same circumstances

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Re: Dominic Cummings

Post by Steve1956 » Mon May 25, 2020 5:48 pm

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Everywhere you go Hypocrite 's all around,such a shame!
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Re: Dominic Cummings

Post by Buxtonclaret » Mon May 25, 2020 5:50 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Mon May 25, 2020 5:42 pm
**** loads of people have abused the lockdown in the UK every single day, I've not followed any of this because I'm bored of it tbh, but the UK does like a scapegoat
Your absolutely right, Vegas.
I'm pretty sure loads have broken the lockdown orders.
Lots of those caught doing it have been warned and/or fined.

But here we've a guy who was central the the making of this policy.
He breaks the policy he'd have helped create and then has his boss saying he did what any father would have done....... erm...

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Re: Dominic Cummings

Post by Silkyskills1 » Mon May 25, 2020 5:52 pm

Burnley Ace wrote:
Mon May 25, 2020 5:27 pm
The Labour hate mob are gathering outside his house spewing bile whilst waving their pitchforks!
How do you know it's the Labour hate mob?

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Re: Dominic Cummings

Post by Jakubclaret » Mon May 25, 2020 6:10 pm

It's crazy anyway, sick people don't travel anywhere or even contemplate it, you've got James Cook hospital in Middlesbrough & probably something in Newcastle & Sunderland, if poorly you would stay wherever the nearest hospital was & regarding the child it'd make more sense for everything to be close at hand to maximise the recovery anything different to that is endangering the child even more.

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Re: Dominic Cummings

Post by Vegas Claret » Mon May 25, 2020 6:11 pm

Buxtonclaret wrote:
Mon May 25, 2020 5:50 pm
Your absolutely right, Vegas.
I'm pretty sure loads have broken the lockdown orders.
Lots of those caught doing it have been warned and/or fined.

But here we've a guy who was central the the making of this policy.
He breaks the policy he'd have helped create and then has his boss saying he did what any father would have done....... erm...
all very true Buxton, it's just the level to which people are losing their **** about it seems a tad too much to me - but like I said, I've not looked into the details that much about this particular case

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Re: Dominic Cummings

Post by Burnley Ace » Mon May 25, 2020 6:16 pm

Silkyskills1 wrote:
Mon May 25, 2020 5:52 pm
How do you know it's the Labour hate mob?
You can tell by the spittle that’s foaming in the corner of their mouths.

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Re: Dominic Cummings

Post by Paul Waine » Mon May 25, 2020 6:16 pm

timshorts wrote:
Mon May 25, 2020 5:43 pm
Was that Prince Andrew wearing a mask?

Unless I missed it, was he asked why, if he was going on a test drive to Barnard Castle, he needed to take his wife and the child.

If the Scottish woman got the push, so should he. At least she knew that what she had done went against the policy and was apologetic about it.
What I heard DC say was that his wife asked if he was safe to drive to London, so I think it makes sense that she accompanied him on short test drive. Of course, there were 2 adults and their 4 year old child staying in the same property, so their son needed to come to.

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Re: Dominic Cummings

Post by evensteadiereddie » Mon May 25, 2020 6:22 pm

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Re: Dominic Cummings

Post by joey13 » Mon May 25, 2020 6:27 pm

Steve1956 wrote:
Mon May 25, 2020 5:48 pm
FB_IMG_1590425160992.jpgEverywhere you go Hypocrite 's all around,such a shame!
Apart from they weren’t calling him out on social distancing were they :roll:

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Re: Dominic Cummings

Post by Steve1956 » Mon May 25, 2020 6:31 pm

joey13 wrote:
Mon May 25, 2020 6:27 pm
Apart from they weren’t calling him out on social distancing were they :roll:
I was merely trying to make a point about my utter disdain for Hypocrite 's

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Re: Dominic Cummings

Post by fidelcastro » Mon May 25, 2020 6:36 pm

I thought the Dominic Cummings press conference went really well... says Prince Andrew.
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Re: Dominic Cummings

Post by mdd2 » Mon May 25, 2020 6:46 pm

Need to take that T -shirt back
Like a lot said about his error of judgement, factually incorrect.
Even someone who should knows better had the audacity to state driving 200miles was endangering life if he became ill on the way or had an accident and no one at that conference asked whether his wife couldn't have driven back as if I followed it 1) she was ill 2) he might become ill as many around him had Covid so who will look after the boy 2) they drive to Durham 3) next day Dom is ill but wife improved and so can look after child 3) at some stage child ill and spends night in hospital 4) Dom can drive and pick up wife and child
4) after about 14 days can drive back and start work after weekend after getting medical advise 5) go for test drive to see if he is fit to drive and spend short time out of car in Barnard Castle 6) drive back to London.
I really don't care whether he stays or goes but are we saying because he may have been a f******g idiot, we will all say F**k the guidance we will behave as normal and put our lives and the lives of others at risk?
IMO the media is doing more harm with this epidemic than DC has done by his indiscretions
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Re: Dominic Cummings

Post by MACCA » Mon May 25, 2020 6:47 pm

Least we can all #bekind again for a week if all the media harassment ends badly...

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Re: Dominic Cummings

Post by Buxtonclaret » Mon May 25, 2020 6:50 pm

Burnley Ace wrote:
Mon May 25, 2020 5:27 pm
The Labour hate mob are gathering outside his house spewing bile whilst waving their pitchforks!
That well known Labour rag, The Daily Mail, has also joined in with ten pages of spital-laced rhetoric too.

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Re: Dominic Cummings

Post by NewClaret » Mon May 25, 2020 6:50 pm

Steve1956 wrote:
Mon May 25, 2020 5:48 pm
FB_IMG_1590425160992.jpgEverywhere you go Hypocrite 's all around,such a shame!
Is that real? How could they get a photo from that angle?

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Re: Dominic Cummings

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Mon May 25, 2020 6:51 pm

Thought the press conference was bad enough until Darren Grimes followed on Sky News to defend him.

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Re: Dominic Cummings

Post by conyoviejo » Mon May 25, 2020 6:57 pm

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Re: Dominic Cummings

Post by Colburn_Claret » Mon May 25, 2020 7:03 pm

Buxtonclaret wrote:
Mon May 25, 2020 5:50 pm
Your absolutely right, Vegas.
I'm pretty sure loads have broken the lockdown orders.
Lots of those caught doing it have been warned and/or fined.

But here we've a guy who was central the the making of this policy.
He breaks the policy he'd have helped create and then has his boss saying he did what any father would have done....... erm...
TBF he hasn't broken any policy. The policy stated nobody should be making any unnecessary journeys, WHEREVER POSSIBLE.
He deemed it necessary, rightly or wrongly, therefore he did nothing wrong. If his parents lived in Watford this is a nothing story, but because it's Dominic Cummings the media are screaming for blood.
I don't know wether he is telling the truth or not, neither do you or the media, or they would be presenting the evidence. BUT if he is telling the truth then I don't think he has done anything wrong. He hasn't been in contact with anyone but his family, at a time when he and his wife were incapacitated through illness, and preferred to take the child to a place where his welfare was best served. If that's the truth what's wrong.
As in every other political thread on this board there is no medium ground. Those who have faith in him, or are prepared to giver him the benefit will be fine, those that hate his and the Tories guts aren't going to accept any explanation.
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Re: Dominic Cummings

Post by huw.Y.WattfromWare » Mon May 25, 2020 7:08 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Mon May 25, 2020 5:42 pm
**** loads of people have abused the lockdown in the UK every single day, I've not followed any of this because I'm bored of it tbh, but the UK does like a scapegoat
And they were wrong. Some have also been fined.
He was wrong and as the others have done he should resign but being Boris’ puppet he won’t.
This is where the British press is at it’s best. Righting wrongs. They’ll keep this going until the tories get rid of Boris, with a bit of luck.

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Re: Dominic Cummings

Post by aggi » Mon May 25, 2020 7:15 pm

Colburn_Claret wrote:
Mon May 25, 2020 7:03 pm
TBF he hasn't broken any policy. The policy stated nobody should be making any unnecessary journeys, WHEREVER POSSIBLE.
He deemed it necessary, rightly or wrongly, therefore he did nothing wrong.
This is a spectacular interpretation. So long as the person involved deems something necessary they cannot be doing anything wrong.

Fancy driving 200 miles to buy some second hand windows. So long as you deem it necessary then you've done nothing wrong.

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Re: Dominic Cummings

Post by Claretincraven » Mon May 25, 2020 7:29 pm

Stephen Kinnock.

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Re: Dominic Cummings

Post by Burnley Ace » Mon May 25, 2020 7:34 pm

aggi wrote:
Mon May 25, 2020 7:15 pm
This is a spectacular interpretation. So long as the person involved deems something necessary they cannot be doing anything wrong.

Fancy driving 200 miles to buy some second hand windows. So long as you deem it necessary then you've done nothing wrong.
It’s called “subjective liability” rather than “objective liability” this might help

“Subjective mens rea, as a form of liability, takes on the persona of the accused person by focusing on the accused’s intention, knowledge or awareness at the time of the offence. Instead, in the objective form of liability, the assessment focuses on what the accused should have or ought to have known at the time.”

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Re: Dominic Cummings

Post by Burnley Ace » Mon May 25, 2020 7:38 pm

Nobody has mentioned Tahir Ali - I suspect the vast majority will have to google his name to get the story - who was more irresponsible?
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Re: Dominic Cummings

Post by Vegas Claret » Mon May 25, 2020 7:39 pm

huw.Y.WattfromWare wrote:
Mon May 25, 2020 7:08 pm
And they were wrong. Some have also been fined.
He was wrong and as the others have done he should resign but being Boris’ puppet he won’t.
This is where the British press is at it’s best. Righting wrongs. They’ll keep this going until the tories get rid of Boris, with a bit of luck.
why should he lose his job rather than being hit with a fine like everyone else ?

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Re: Dominic Cummings

Post by turbo5 » Mon May 25, 2020 7:41 pm

Well that’s it then
Dominic Cummings has been receiving threats no doubt from the caring left
and he fled with his family

The nation awaited like a World Cup final penalty shoot out
Bang back of the net!!!! The fat lady sings
It’s over, the home fans roared and the left have gone into total meltdown the scenes are unbelievable they arent taking this sitting down.
Dummies. Toys nappies flying everywhere
Will they ever recover ? First it was defeat at the hands of Brexit then the humilation of the General Election. Recently they tried to have some success but they couldnt even score against Priti Patel
Its going to be a long night, Owen Jones will be asking his mother can he stay up past bed time to write some tweets ,Piers Morgan will go into tweeting meltdown whilst Gary Lineaker and Lily Allen will have to lie down and do breathing exercises.

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Re: Dominic Cummings

Post by TheFamilyCat » Mon May 25, 2020 7:42 pm

Seems the best defence his supporters can come up with is whataboutery.

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Re: Dominic Cummings

Post by fanzone » Mon May 25, 2020 7:45 pm

I thought he explained what he did very well for a man that's not media savvy.

If I were in the same position id take action to make sure my children could be cared for.

This is the same media that hounded and virtually killed Caroline Flack.

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Re: Dominic Cummings

Post by TheFamilyCat » Mon May 25, 2020 7:54 pm

fanzone wrote:
Mon May 25, 2020 7:45 pm
I thought he explained what he did very well for a man that's not media savvy.

If I were in the same position id take action to make sure my children could be cared for.

This is the same media that hounded and virtually killed Caroline Flack.
Not media savvy? Wow!
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Re: Dominic Cummings

Post by Lord Beamish » Mon May 25, 2020 7:55 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:
Mon May 25, 2020 7:54 pm
Not media savvy? Wow!
I know. We really are through the looking glass now, aren’t we?

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Re: Dominic Cummings

Post by Billy Balfour » Mon May 25, 2020 7:59 pm

My wife has proper kicked off. I told her I was thinking about taking the kids for a drive to check If I can see okay.

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Re: Dominic Cummings

Post by Burnley Ace » Mon May 25, 2020 8:02 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:
Mon May 25, 2020 7:42 pm
Seems the best defence his supporters can come up with is whataboutery.
He doesn’t need defending just highlighting the Labour hypocrisy and desperation. They have learnt their lesson - keep repeating the story doesn’t matter if it’s right, keep repeating and let loose the baying mob.

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Re: Dominic Cummings

Post by Paul Waine » Mon May 25, 2020 8:04 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:
Mon May 25, 2020 7:54 pm
Not media savvy? Wow!
Have we ever seen DC hold a press conference before on any subject, never mind what he and his family have been doing?

From what I can remember, apart from DC walking in Downing Street and his few minutes trying to get through the "media scrum" to his car, I can't remember him being in the "public eye."

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Re: Dominic Cummings

Post by TheFamilyCat » Mon May 25, 2020 8:06 pm

Burnley Ace wrote:
Mon May 25, 2020 8:02 pm
He doesn’t need defending just highlighting the Labour hypocrisy and desperation. They have learnt their lesson - keep repeating the story doesn’t matter if it’s right, keep repeating and let loose the baying mob.
I'm pretty sure the anger about this goes crosses party boundaries.
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Re: Dominic Cummings

Post by fanzone » Mon May 25, 2020 8:06 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:
Mon May 25, 2020 7:54 pm
Not media savvy? Wow!

Explain

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Re: Dominic Cummings

Post by TheFamilyCat » Mon May 25, 2020 8:10 pm

Paul Waine wrote:
Mon May 25, 2020 8:04 pm
Have we ever seen DC hold a press conference before on any subject, never mind what he and his family have been doing?

From what I can remember, apart from DC walking in Downing Street and his few minutes trying to get through the "media scrum" to his car, I can't remember him being in the "public eye."
If you think being media savvy only relates to doing interviews he may have had a point
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