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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Post by ClaretTony » Sun May 31, 2020 3:30 pm

Blackrod wrote:
Sun May 31, 2020 2:56 pm
Brady has been poor for most of his time here. He had a few good games pre injury. That’s it. Not a massive Hendrick fan but I can see what he offers to the team structure and gameplan. He has been ten times the player for us then Brady though.
He had a number of good games before injury and was outstanding just ahead of it. Struggled to get fit since, including the rib injury that kept him out this season. He's hardly played but a lot of that is down to McNeil being there. Hendrick though will be a big loss if he goes.
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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Post by Tribesmen » Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:29 am

Just not a fan of Jeff as i have said many times and at this stage i would be happy to see him sign for AC-DC .

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Post by mdd2 » Mon Jun 01, 2020 9:31 am

If or when CT?

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Post by Bosscat » Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:01 am

mdd2 wrote:
Mon Jun 01, 2020 9:31 am
If or when CT?
I hope its if Steve...

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Post by Spijed » Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:30 am

Tribesmen wrote:
Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:29 am
Just not a fan of Jeff as i have said many times and at this stage i would be happy to see him sign for AC-DC .
What is the general view of him in Ireland?

Seems to be the Ideal player for Ireland

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Post by Quickenthetempo » Mon Jun 01, 2020 7:10 pm

Spijed wrote:
Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:52 pm
Article:

https://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer ... ezk8VY8AkI
Interesting bit about him waiting for the relegation battle to be over.

Bournemouth? Villa?

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Post by pushpinpussy » Mon Jun 01, 2020 7:15 pm

Hendrick is off to Villa. I thought people were aware of that. he has the same agent as Heaton. its a done deal if they stay up.

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Post by FactualFrank » Mon Jun 01, 2020 7:17 pm

I'd only want a player to leave, if we had more than enough cover already in the side or we had a better replacement nailed on to come in.

That's not the case with Hendrick.
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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Post by Zlatan » Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:04 pm

pushpinpussy wrote:
Mon Jun 01, 2020 7:15 pm
Hendrick is off to Villa. I thought people were aware of that. he has the same agent as Heaton. its a done deal if they stay up.
Replacement for Grealish...?

Fans will be underwhelmed

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Post by ksrclaret » Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:16 pm

pushpinpussy wrote:
Mon Jun 01, 2020 7:15 pm
Hendrick is off to Villa. I thought people were aware of that. he has the same agent as Heaton. its a done deal if they stay up.
I was wondering when your nextdoor neighbour the BFC footballer would offer up some more gossip. He's been a little dry of late.

Understandable I suppose, all things considered.

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Post by boatshed bill » Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:24 pm

I still have more than half a hope that Villa will go down. Unlikely I know, but they aren't safe...and they are crap!

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Post by Spijed » Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:25 pm

FactualFrank wrote:
Mon Jun 01, 2020 7:17 pm
I'd only want a player to leave, if we had more than enough cover already in the side or we had a better replacement nailed on to come in.

That's not the case with Hendrick.
Who knows how Josh Brownhill will turn out?

I'd love Hendrick to stay but if he goes we might have good replacement in Brownhill.

In recent times, Heaton, Keane, Ward and Vokes have left and we seem to be just as strong as ever.
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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Post by ksrclaret » Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:27 pm

Spijed wrote:
Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:25 pm
Who knows how Josh Brownhill will turn out?

I'd love Hendrick to stay but if he goes we might have good replacement in Brownhill.

In recent times, Heaton, Keane, Ward and Vokes have left and we seem to be just as strong as ever.
I think Brownhill will turn out to be an excellent buy.
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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Post by Tall Paul » Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:36 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:24 pm
I still have more than half a hope that Villa will go down. Unlikely I know, but they aren't safe...and they are crap!
Not that unlikely, they're second favourite for the drop
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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Post by dsr » Mon Jun 01, 2020 11:02 pm

I presume, since we haven't heard to the contrary, that Hendrick is training and planning to play? Three Charlton players have bottled it and won't sign an extension because they think they're on for a big payday and don't want to risk it.

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Post by ewanrob » Mon Jun 01, 2020 11:14 pm

Wasnt a big fan initially, but now I think he is vastly underrated...brings a lot to the table and will be a big miss if he goes. Will never be the organiser or playmaker, but is a very good in what he does..breaking up/linking play, and scoring some cracking goals.
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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Post by Chester Perry » Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:55 am

dsr wrote:
Mon Jun 01, 2020 11:02 pm
I presume, since we haven't heard to the contrary, that Hendrick is training and planning to play? Three Charlton players have bottled it and won't sign an extension because they think they're on for a big payday and don't want to risk it.
I wouldn't say they have bottled it - at least one is strongly linked with a move that would significantly improve his earnings and all have had the open support of their manager - Lee Bowyer who as we all know has never been short in letting others know of what he thinks, if he is not happy

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Post by dsr » Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:59 am

Chester Perry wrote:
Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:55 am
I wouldn't say they have bottled it - at least one is strongly linked with a move that would significantly improve his earnings and all have had the open support of their manager - Lee Bowyer who as we all know has never been short in letting others know of what he thinks, if he is not happy
I dare say. But he signed a contract to play for 2 seasons at Charlton and has only played one and three quarters, and I'm not aware that he's given any money back for the last 3 months.

It can't help his future earnings I wouldn't have thought. If you're looking for a new player, the man who you know looks after number 1 and will be absent in a crisis isn't going to be first on your list.

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Post by Claret Toni » Tue Jun 02, 2020 8:21 pm

dsr wrote:
Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:59 am
I dare say. But he signed a contract to play for 2 seasons at Charlton and has only played one and three quarters, and I'm not aware that he's given any money back for the last 3 months.

It can't help his future earnings I wouldn't have thought. If you're looking for a new player, the man who you know looks after number 1 and will be absent in a crisis isn't going to be first on your list.
Football contracts are usually until a specific date - expiring 30th June - not for a season or two, so if they choose not to play after 30th June, I can't see an issue.

It's not biggest secret in the game - footballers do tend to look after number 1.

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Post by Winstonswhite » Tue Jun 02, 2020 8:27 pm

Like I alluded to further up the thread. Say Hendrick has a contract on the table worth 7/8 million over 3 years at the San Siro then is he really going to want to play in what are in reality dead rubbers with us?!
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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Post by Tribesmen » Tue Jun 02, 2020 8:33 pm

Spijed wrote:
Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:30 am
What is the general view of him in Ireland?

Seems to be the Ideal player for Ireland
To be very honest very few rate him as he is seen as a poor player in a poor squad Duffy and McGoldrick seem to do no wrong most of the others cope a fair bit of stick .
As one friend calls Jeff "Hendcrap"

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Post by tiger76 » Tue Jun 02, 2020 8:35 pm

Winstonswhite wrote:
Tue Jun 02, 2020 8:27 pm
Like I alluded to further up the thread. Say Hendrick has a contract on the table worth 7/8 million over 3 years at the San Siro then is he really going to want to play in what are in reality dead rubbers with us?!
If Jeff's not 100% committed, then there's no point picking him, perfect chance to give Brownhill a few run-out's until the end of the season, and try and integrate him into the system, if he can nab a goal or two or even an assist or two then he'll feel part of the squad.

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Post by ClaretLoup » Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:44 pm

I really like Hendrick and want him to stay, however I think the club should say to him - Sign on before 17 June or Foxtrot Oscar. The club could play any of Lennon, Brady or ideally Gudmundsson in his position asssuming the latter is now fully fit. Basher and Jayrod have also played wide midfield.

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Post by dsr » Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:23 pm

Claret Toni wrote:
Tue Jun 02, 2020 8:21 pm
Football contracts are usually until a specific date - expiring 30th June - not for a season or two, so if they choose not to play after 30th June, I can't see an issue.

It's not biggest secret in the game - footballers do tend to look after number 1.
I'm not denying the legality of it. I'm only wondering what is the effect on a player's value if he is know that when the going gets tough, he hides under the table.

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Post by Chester Perry » Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:30 pm

dsr wrote:
Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:23 pm
I'm not denying the legality of it. I'm only wondering what is the effect on a player's value if he is know that when the going gets tough, he hides under the table.
Any club he is joining will appreciate he has not risked injury - given the short close season in any of the countries he chooses to play in - remember IF it is Celtic they Scottish want to start their league at the beginning of August, If Milan the Italians like England want to be underway in September, it is a no brainer for him and a future employer if he believes his future is away from Burnley

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Post by tiger76 » Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:37 pm

ClaretLoup wrote:
Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:44 pm
I really like Hendrick and want him to stay, however I think the club should say to him - Sign on before 17 June or Foxtrot Oscar. The club could play any of Lennon, Brady or ideally Gudmundsson in his position asssuming the latter is now fully fit. Basher and Jayrod have also played wide midfield.
Looking purely selfishly at this from BFC'S POV, why should we play Hendrick if he's not planning on sticking around, we'd merely be getting him match fit for whoever ultimately signs him, we can easily use these last 9 games to get Brady or JBG some minutes, both could really benefit from time on the grass, we're near as damn it safe, so we should have one eye on next season.
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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Post by Chester Perry » Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:04 pm

This is interesting if you actually believe the content - from the Mail

Sean Dyche angry with Burnley over lack of contract extensions offered to senior players - with five first-team regulars seeing deals expire on June 30
- Five first team players at Burnley are out of contract at the end of this month
- The most notable names are regulars Jeff Hendrick and Phil Bardsley
- Joe Hart, Aaron Lennon and Adam Legzdins are also set to leave on June 30
- Sean Dyche has urged club chairman Mike Garlick to reconsider their futures

By Matt Hughes For The Daily Mail - Published: 22:30, 2 June 2020

Burnley manager Sean Dyche is unhappy with the club over their reluctance to extend the contracts of several senior players whose deals expire this month.

Five players are out of contract at Turf Moor on June 30, including stalwarts Phil Bardsley and Jeff Hendrick, but the club have so far only offered them one-month extensions to enable them to play until the planned completion date of the Premier League on July 26.

Dyche is understood to have expressed his frustration to chairman Mike Garlick and urged the club to reconsider.

Neither defender Bardsley nor midfielder Hendrick have yet signed the amended contracts, although they have been training with the squad.

In addition to Bardsley and Hendrick, Joe Hart, Aaron Lennon and back-up goalkeeper Adam Legzdins are also out of contract this month.

Burnley's approach to contract negotiations has been a source of frustration for the technical staff for some time.

One-year extensions given to Ashley Westwood and Robbie Brady this year are the only new contracts the club has agreed since November.
Dyche is thought to be particularly concerned about losing Bardsley.

Despite turning 35 later this month, the former Manchester United full-back is still seen as an important player by the manager.

With the transfer market expected to contract this summer due to the impact of the pandemic, such experienced players available on free transfers are likely to be in demand when the window opens, and the fear of jeopardising a move by getting injured could lead some of them to reject short-term extensions.

Top-flight clubs have until June 23 to agree extensions with out-of-contract players following a rule change by the Premier League last month.
After that date, free agents can sign to play for other clubs next season.

There are 71 Premier League players out of contract this summer, which is likely to lead to tense negotiations over the next few weeks, with players seeking longer deals or bonuses to offset the potential loss of opportunities.

Burnley are committed to finishing the season, despite the complication of having a number of players out of contract.

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Post by huw.Y.WattfromWare » Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:10 pm

Chester Perry wrote:
Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:04 pm
This is interesting if you actually believe the content - from the Mail
Stopped reading at that point.

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Post by DCWat » Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:11 pm

Goes against the view that Hendrick has already been offered a contract beyond this season.

Is this reporter usually a reliable one for information?

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Post by DCWat » Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:12 pm

huw.Y.WattfromWare wrote:
Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:10 pm
Stopped reading at that point.
Odd comment considering they have reporters such as Martin Samuel working for them.

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Post by Chester Perry » Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:17 pm

DCWat wrote:
Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:11 pm
Goes against the view that Hendrick has already been offered a contract beyond this season.

Is this reporter usually a reliable one for information?
Wasn't Hendrick offered a new deal early in the season - there is no word that has been withdrawn only the suggestion the clubs stance hasn't changed

also interesting that Bardsley is regarded as the most important to extend - given the current squad that is the correct analysis - though I would like Jeff to stay. All of which appears to be the general line of thinking I have read on here

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Post by dsr » Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:24 pm

Hart has more or less said he is going, Lennon surely won't be offered a new contract, and Legzdins will not get another PL club so he's not urgent. The other two have been offered contracts and Dyche will be involved anyway. I thoink they're a bit short of things to write, frankly.

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Post by NewClaret » Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:46 pm

“ Burnley are committed to finishing the season, despite the complication of having a number of players out of contract.”

Phew, for a moment I thought we were going to jack it all in :lol: :lol: What a load of ****e.

Do understand our reluctance to sign older players on to longer contracts, but folk like Westwood should be secured for a few years.

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Post by ashtonlongsider » Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:55 am

The only out of contract players I'd be disappointed to lose is Bardsley.

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Post by MACCA » Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:44 am

huw.Y.WattfromWare wrote:
Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:10 pm
Stopped reading at that point.
You could have said "rag of a paper" that's my favourite.

Every paper is slated on here, Its a wonder any get sold

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Post by bobinho » Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:24 am

We are well known for not talking about anything until it’s done. I can imagine any discussions between Garlick and Dyche being conducted in a closed room, and I certainly don’t see either of them ringing the mail to tell the story of what was said.

I’m calling BS on this...

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