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Re: Adam Lallana

Post by tiger76 » Sat Jul 25, 2020 7:48 pm

Zlatan wrote:
Sat Jul 25, 2020 7:27 pm
I hope they forgot the relegation clause... £90k/week in the championship for 2 seasons will hurt
Yes and Brighton want to remember they've only kept their heads above water due to the 4 rubbish teams below them, they've hardly blazed a trail, 8 league wins all season is hardly anything to write home about. And they were lucky the season before when they stayed up with only 36 points, they won't keep getting lucky. And an ageing Lallana on big wages would be a severe drain on them in the Championship.
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Re: Adam Lallana

Post by mdd2 » Sat Jul 25, 2020 7:51 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Sat Jul 25, 2020 7:48 pm
Yes and Brighton want to remember they've only kept their heads above water due to the 4 rubbish teams below them, they've hardly blazed a trail, 8 league wins all season is hardly anything to write home about. And they were lucky the season before when they stayed up with only 36 points, they won't keep getting lucky. And an ageing Lallana on big wages would be a severe drain on them in the Championship.
Careful you haven't guarenteed them a ninth win with that post. :( :(

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Re: Adam Lallana

Post by Woodleyclaret » Sat Jul 25, 2020 7:52 pm

3 year deal good luck to him
Hes had a stellar career hardly played in last 3 yrs yet picked up serious wages and a winners medal at Liverpool

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Re: Adam Lallana

Post by dsr » Sat Jul 25, 2020 11:18 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Sat Jul 25, 2020 6:57 pm
Ridiculous. Are they loaded then?
They have a bit more income than us because they charge a lot more for tickets, but their big advantage is that Bloom puts about £50m per year in as loans.

They're in a similar situation to Bolton a few years back. Their owner has lent them a fortune but hasn't converted any to shares - so someday he, or his heirs, or his creditors can ask for it back.

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Re: Adam Lallana

Post by ClaretTony » Sat Jul 25, 2020 11:22 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Sat Jul 25, 2020 7:09 pm
Their owner Bloom is, which is why they owe him about £200 million in debts.
They don't own their stadium or training ground directly either, those and the club itself are owned by a parent company last I saw anything.
They would be nowhere near where they are without Bloom

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Just seen this.......

Post by BurnleyMickSouth » Sat Jul 25, 2020 11:23 pm

:roll: Adam Lallana signs a 3year deal with Brighton, well no omletts for him,, that was fast by Brighton and we are nowhere to be seen, not. bothered anyway.

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Re: Just seen this.......

Post by dsr » Sat Jul 25, 2020 11:24 pm

You're about to be merged with the nowhere-to-be-seen 5 page thread about him ... :lol:

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Re: Just seen this.......

Post by Bosscat » Sat Jul 25, 2020 11:31 pm

dsr wrote:
Sat Jul 25, 2020 11:24 pm
You're about to be merged with the nowhere-to-be-seen 5 page thread about him ... :lol:
🤣🤣🤣

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Re: Adam Lallana

Post by BurnleyMickSouth » Sat Jul 25, 2020 11:34 pm

Oooopps sorry I didn't know that there was this thread...lol :twisted: :lol:

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Re: Adam Lallana

Post by tiger76 » Sat Jul 25, 2020 11:41 pm

dsr wrote:
Sat Jul 25, 2020 11:18 pm
They have a bit more income than us because they charge a lot more for tickets, but their big advantage is that Bloom puts about £50m per year in as loans.

They're in a similar situation to Bolton a few years back. Their owner has lent them a fortune but hasn't converted any to shares - so someday he, or his heirs, or his creditors can ask for it back.
Yep that's always the danger when you rely on an investor, if they demand their returns you can run into problems.

Blackburn and more pertinently Bolton are a sober reminder of what can transpire in such circumstances.

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Re: Adam Lallana

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sat Jul 25, 2020 11:47 pm

dsr wrote:
Sat Jul 25, 2020 11:18 pm
They have a bit more income than us because they charge a lot more for tickets, but their big advantage is that Bloom puts about £50m per year in as loans.

They're in a similar situation to Bolton a few years back. Their owner has lent them a fortune but hasn't converted any to shares - so someday he, or his heirs, or his creditors can ask for it back.
Genuine question about the tickets though.

Their tickets include 'free' travel on the train from various local stations to the ground, I remember that from when I watched us there a couple of years ago the season we finished 7th.

Does anyone know if the club is having to pay the local rail companies for this arrangement?

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Re: Adam Lallana

Post by Damo » Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:40 am

90k per week. Words fail me

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Re: Just seen this.......

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:51 am

BurnleyMickSouth wrote:
Sat Jul 25, 2020 11:23 pm
:roll: Adam Lallana signs a 3year deal with Brighton, well no omletts for him,, that was fast by Brighton and we are nowhere to be seen, not. bothered anyway.

You complain we are nowhere to be seen then next word you aren’t bothered, which one is it ;)

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Re: Adam Lallana

Post by claretblue » Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:56 am

without having to pay a transfer fee it equates roughly to an £8m transfer and £45k/week...where’s the problem?

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Re: Adam Lallana

Post by AfloatinClaret » Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:56 am

"...Allegedly smashed their wage structure..."

Which will no doubt endear him to the rest of Brighton's squad and help generate an all for one/work for each other ethos at the club.

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Re: Adam Lallana

Post by CharlieinNewMexico » Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:21 am

warksclaret wrote:
Sat Jul 25, 2020 7:20 pm
Might mean one of their existing midfielders becomes surplus and they have several in this department
Step up secret double undercover agent Dale!!!

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Re: Adam Lallana

Post by ClaretTony » Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:27 am

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Sat Jul 25, 2020 11:47 pm
Genuine question about the tickets though.

Their tickets include 'free' travel on the train from various local stations to the ground, I remember that from when I watched us there a couple of years ago the season we finished 7th.

Does anyone know if the club is having to pay the local rail companies for this arrangement?
It was all part of the agreement that got them permission to build the stadium at Falmer - it's not just from local stations though, it goes from Worthing to Eastbourne (west to east) and up to Hayward's Heath on the trains back up to London. It is a service offered by the club so you would assume they are paying for it.
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Re: Adam Lallana

Post by BurnleyFC » Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:31 am

Good player, but 90k per week?!

Was he even earning that at Liverpool in his prime?

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Re: Adam Lallana

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:33 am

BurnleyFC wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:31 am
Good player, but 90k per week?!

Was he even earning that at Liverpool in his prime?
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Re: Adam Lallana

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:35 am

We have dodged a bullet here.

90k a week for a 32 year old lad that has barely played for 3 seasons and to be honest has not done anything particularly spectacular his career apart from being a bit part player for Liverpool.

To be honest I find it a very strange transfer for Brighton, they could have invested the money into a really good up and coming footballer like Eze that would have a good sell on in the future

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Re: Adam Lallana

Post by warksclaret » Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:23 am

Incredible deal-and we all thought the pandemic would put a degree of caution into new deals and purchases. Brighton must feel very insecure, and when their injured players come back will have a sizeable squad.

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Re: Adam Lallana

Post by jojomk1 » Sun Jul 26, 2020 12:25 pm

claretblue wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:56 am
without having to pay a transfer fee it equates roughly to an £8m transfer and £45k/week...where’s the problem?
For a guy turned 32 - who will also get a sizeable signing on fee to add to your calculations (they get the money instead of his last club)

That's the problem

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Re: Adam Lallana

Post by MRG » Mon Jul 27, 2020 11:30 pm

I wouldn’t be surprised if this turns into a fantastic signing for Brighton.

Remember the last player to leave Liverpool for a rival club that we were linked with ended up 2nd in the scoring charts yet this board couldn’t wait to tell us how he was past it and not good enough for us.

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Re: Adam Lallana

Post by dsr » Mon Jul 27, 2020 11:46 pm

MRG wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 11:30 pm
I wouldn’t be surprised if this turns into a fantastic signing for Brighton.

Remember the last player to leave Liverpool for a rival club that we were linked with ended up 2nd in the scoring charts yet this board couldn’t wait to tell us how he was past it and not good enough for us.
At risk of letting facts spoil a minor rant, the knock on Ings was that he had a very bad injury record and £20m was more than we should gamble on a man who might not play.

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Re: Adam Lallana

Post by dsr » Mon Jul 27, 2020 11:47 pm

claretblue wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:56 am
without having to pay a transfer fee it equates roughly to an £8m transfer and £45k/week...where’s the problem?
Whjere's the problem? Use your imagination. If your boss employed someone to do the same job as you to about the same standard, and paid him twice the money you were on - do you see the problem?

I one of the top players is on £90k per week, the other top players will be less happy with £45k per week.

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Re: Adam Lallana

Post by Vegas Claret » Mon Jul 27, 2020 11:48 pm

MRG wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 11:30 pm
I wouldn’t be surprised if this turns into a fantastic signing for Brighton.

Remember the last player to leave Liverpool for a rival club that we were linked with ended up 2nd in the scoring charts yet this board couldn’t wait to tell us how he was past it and not good enough for us.
Ings earns 75K a week, the only "links" to him were in the paper

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Re: Adam Lallana

Post by MRG » Tue Jul 28, 2020 6:41 am

Vegas Claret wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 11:48 pm
Ings earns 75K a week, the only "links" to him were in the paper
Not true, there was contact

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Re: Adam Lallana

Post by Burnley Ace » Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:51 am

MRG wrote:
Tue Jul 28, 2020 6:41 am
Not true, there was contact
BFC: Hi Danny, what wage you wanting
DI: £75k + bonus.....hello......hello
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Re: Adam Lallana

Post by bobinho » Tue Jul 28, 2020 9:17 am

MRG wrote:
Tue Jul 28, 2020 6:41 am
Not true, there was contact
Entitled to go down then....
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Re: Adam Lallana

Post by MACCA » Tue Jul 28, 2020 9:51 am

MRG wrote:
Tue Jul 28, 2020 6:41 am
Not true, there was contact
Well he's given the referee a decision to make then..

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Re: Adam Lallana

Post by Dyched » Tue Jul 28, 2020 9:56 am

dsr wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 11:47 pm
Whjere's the problem? Use your imagination. If your boss employed someone to do the same job as you to about the same standard, and paid him twice the money you were on - do you see the problem?

I one of the top players is on £90k per week, the other top players will be less happy with £45k per week.
Does this actually happen?

Players want to play with good players. Lallana is a very good player. Brightons task will be to avoid relegation and if he performs well, he’ll give them a far better chance at doing that and in the long run earn better wages/contract for the other players around him.

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Re: Adam Lallana

Post by Woonderbah » Tue Jul 28, 2020 10:18 am

Seems odd that West Ham, Palace or Southampton weren't in for him.
I know he wants to be south coast but an hour or two's drive isn't the end of the world.

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Re: Adam Lallana

Post by Woonderbah » Tue Jul 28, 2020 10:22 am

Dyched wrote:
Tue Jul 28, 2020 9:56 am
Does this actually happen?

Players want to play with good players. Lallana is a very good player. Brightons task will be to avoid relegation and if he performs well, he’ll give them a far better chance at doing that and in the long run earn better wages/contract for the other players around him.
There's also the chance he could be to Brighton what Jack Wilshere is to West Ham.

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Re: Adam Lallana

Post by bfcjg » Tue Jul 28, 2020 10:30 am

Hes a bit injury prone. Can see it now Adam L-ill-ana on 90k a week feet up by the seaside.

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Re: Adam Lallana

Post by Woodleyclaret » Tue Jul 28, 2020 10:36 am

Liverpool has a habit of burning players out then dumping them
Danny Ings was the exception but Flanagan, Sturrudge,Solanke and Spearing all talked up as youngsters all bombed
Lallana is not your comparative general cm that all good sides need.At best hes got a decent pass in him on a good day,which of late have been rarer and rarer.
Fair play if Brighton are stupid enough to pay £90m on a crocked .

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Re: Adam Lallana

Post by dsr » Tue Jul 28, 2020 11:02 am

Dyched wrote:
Tue Jul 28, 2020 9:56 am
Does this actually happen?

Players want to play with good players. Lallana is a very good player. Brightons task will be to avoid relegation and if he performs well, he’ll give them a far better chance at doing that and in the long run earn better wages/contract for the other players around him.
If the Brighton players accept that Lallana is a big step above them as a player and deserves the money, then it'll be fine. If the Brighton players believe that they're as good as him and are contributing just as much to the club and he doesn't deserve twice the money, it won't. As the very least, when an existing player is negotiating a new contract, they will quote Lallana's wage as a negotiating pont.

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Re: Adam Lallana

Post by aggi » Tue Jul 28, 2020 12:09 pm

It probably isn't the case at Brighton but some players do have contract clauses that say their earnings always have to match the highest paid player.

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Re: Adam Lallana

Post by ClaretLoup » Tue Jul 28, 2020 12:47 pm

Brighton were one of the clubs that benefitted greatly from the lockdown as until footie shut down they had not won in the calendar year. However they finished twelfth in the post Covid table and the three games they lost were to City, Liverpool and Man Utd. Lallana may prove a good signing for them as he is something they haven't got, an EPL experienced classy midfielder.

Burnley already have Cork and Westwood to fulfill that role. So it's a good fit for Brighton and we have not missed out.

Both Brighton and Southampton could turn out to be surprise packages next season.

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Re: Adam Lallana

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Tue Jul 28, 2020 3:00 pm

aggi wrote:
Tue Jul 28, 2020 12:09 pm
It probably isn't the case at Brighton but some players do have contract clauses that say their earnings always have to match the highest paid player.
I think it was Terry or Lampard who had that clause at Chelsea, possible that Messi also has it.

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Re: Adam Lallana

Post by Bigvince » Tue Jul 28, 2020 3:16 pm

ClaretLoup wrote:
Tue Jul 28, 2020 12:47 pm

Both Brighton and Southampton could turn out to be surprise packages next season.
Southampton will rely heavily on Ings again.who’s to say another club won’t come in for him?

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Re: Adam Lallana

Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Jul 28, 2020 4:24 pm

MRG wrote:
Tue Jul 28, 2020 6:41 am
Not true, there was contact
we could contact City about De Bruyne but there is no chance of that happening either

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Re: Adam Lallana

Post by MRG » Tue Jul 28, 2020 4:25 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Tue Jul 28, 2020 4:24 pm
we could contact City about De Bruyne but there is no chance of that happening either
We’ve now progressed from paper talk to us making contact but there was no chance!
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Re: Adam Lallana

Post by MACCA » Mon Sep 14, 2020 9:04 pm

Has gone off injured just before half time on premier league matchday number 1....
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Re: Adam Lallana

Post by joey13 » Mon Sep 14, 2020 9:05 pm

MACCA wrote:
Mon Sep 14, 2020 9:04 pm
Has gone off injured just before half time on premier league matchday ....
Anyone surprised?

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Re: Adam Lallana

Post by FactualFrank » Mon Sep 14, 2020 9:05 pm

MACCA wrote:
Mon Sep 14, 2020 9:04 pm
Has gone off injured just before half time on premier league matchday ....
He'll be back in 2022 don't worry.

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Re: Adam Lallana

Post by Wembley09 » Mon Sep 14, 2020 9:11 pm

Forgot he was playing until he went off injured.
Passenger tonight, but he's getting on abit now and has hardly played in recent years.

When he came off he looked more like he couldn't be arsed than injured too haha. Alot more chasing shadows playing in a lesser team like Brighton.

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Re: Adam Lallana

Post by boatshed bill » Mon Sep 14, 2020 9:35 pm

Brighton outplaying Chelsea, but still losing.

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Re: Adam Lallana

Post by Wembley09 » Mon Sep 14, 2020 9:37 pm

Chelsea's 2nd was a belter, can't really say same about Brighton's... thought Kepa should have done much better. Then again, he's got a very poor record at letting in long range goals.

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Re: Adam Lallana

Post by FactualFrank » Mon Sep 14, 2020 9:40 pm

Wembley09 wrote:
Mon Sep 14, 2020 9:11 pm
Forgot he was playing until he went off injured.
Passenger tonight, but he's getting on abit now and has hardly played in recent years.

When he came off he looked more like he couldn't be arsed than injured too haha. Alot more chasing shadows playing in a lesser team like Brighton.
I thought the same thing. Not sure we've missed out on much.
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Re: Adam Lallana

Post by boatshed bill » Mon Sep 14, 2020 9:41 pm

FactualFrank wrote:
Mon Sep 14, 2020 9:40 pm
I thought the same thing. Not sure we've missed out on much.
We've missed absolutely nothing (IMO).

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