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Fans potentially admitted next season with a phased approach

Post by ClaretTony » Fri May 29, 2020 2:38 pm

Richard Masters has said today that the Premier League are optimistic that fans will be admitted next season in a phased approach. I'm assuming that means some of us do get in and some don't.

I don't agree with that approach at all. How would you feel if you were one that was told you couldn't go?
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Re: Fans potentially admitted next season with a phased approach

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Fri May 29, 2020 2:41 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Fri May 29, 2020 2:38 pm
Richard Masters has said today that the Premier League are optimistic that fans will be admitted next season in a phased approach. I'm assuming that means some of us do get in and some don't.

I don't agree with that approach at all. How would you feel if you were one that was told you couldn't go?
if they did a 'you one week me the next' scenario then it would be better than nothing at all.

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Re: Fans potentially admitted next season with a phased approach

Post by wilks_bfc » Fri May 29, 2020 2:45 pm

Granny WeatherWax wrote:
Fri May 29, 2020 2:41 pm
if they did a 'you one week me the next' scenario then it would be better than nothing at all.
But your week might be ManCity/Liverpool whereas my week my be Watford/Bournemouth :o :(

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Re: Fans potentially admitted next season with a phased approach

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Fri May 29, 2020 2:47 pm

wilks_bfc wrote:
Fri May 29, 2020 2:45 pm
But your week might be ManCity/Liverpool whereas my week my be Watford/Bournemouth :o :(
its more enjoyable when we win so fine with that!
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Re: Fans potentially admitted next season with a phased approach

Post by martin_p » Fri May 29, 2020 2:47 pm

Granny WeatherWax wrote:
Fri May 29, 2020 2:41 pm
if they did a 'you one week me the next' scenario then it would be better than nothing at all.
If they are keeping fans two metres apart it might only be one match in every four you see.

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Re: Fans potentially admitted next season with a phased approach

Post by Grumps » Fri May 29, 2020 2:48 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Fri May 29, 2020 2:38 pm
Richard Masters has said today that the Premier League are optimistic that fans will be admitted next season in a phased approach. I'm assuming that means some of us do get in and some don't.

I don't agree with that approach at all. How would you feel if you were one that was told you couldn't go?
That will open a can of worms. I go with 16 other people, and sit with family. Be strange if say I could go, and son or grandchild Carnt.
Maybe they mean age.... All over 70s must stay away for first 5 games... Good luck with that one.

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Re: Fans potentially admitted next season with a phased approach

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Fri May 29, 2020 2:49 pm

martin_p wrote:
Fri May 29, 2020 2:47 pm
If they are keeping fans two metres apart it might only be one match in every four you see.
yep, hard to see how they would make it work if we still have to follow some form of social distancing.

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Re: Fans potentially admitted next season with a phased approach

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Fri May 29, 2020 2:56 pm

Granny WeatherWax wrote:
Fri May 29, 2020 2:49 pm
yep, hard to see how they would make it work if we still have to follow some form of social distancing.
Social distancing at the beer counter at half time wouldn't happen, same with the bogs.

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Re: Fans potentially admitted next season with a phased approach

Post by tiger76 » Fri May 29, 2020 2:58 pm

Let's how it works in Poland.

Polish football fans allowed back on 19 June

Poland will let fans back into stadiums to watch professional football from 19 June, Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki has said.

The stadiums hosting matches from the top-tier league, the Ekstraklasa, will be no more than a quarter full to allow for social distancing. Matches will be broadcast in 16 countries.

"For me, football is more than just a game, it is something more than just sport. It is a great, excellent promotion of Poland, Polish business and of our will to fight," Mr Morawiecki said.

The Ekstraklasa resumes its season today but without fans. Poland began easing its lockdown on 20 April, when parks were allowed to reopen. Hotels, shops, museums and galleries reopened on 4 May and primary schools restarted earlier this week.

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Re: Fans potentially admitted next season with a phased approach

Post by Quickenthetempo » Fri May 29, 2020 2:59 pm

Lots of positive noise about low risk outdoors.

I think we will all be back.

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Re: Fans potentially admitted next season with a phased approach

Post by JohnDearyMe » Fri May 29, 2020 3:01 pm

Would the facilities at the turf need a major upgrade? Handwashing facilities definitely would need improving.

Although I'm not sure what they can do about how cramped the concourses are.

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Re: Fans potentially admitted next season with a phased approach

Post by FactualFrank » Fri May 29, 2020 3:03 pm

They could have half using the urinals and the other using the sinks.
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Re: Fans potentially admitted next season with a phased approach

Post by AlargeClaret » Fri May 29, 2020 3:14 pm

Just by banning say over 60’s with health conditions as these are an at risk group would help . While I appreciate the Bob lord could be empty ,it won’t affect atmosphere and will help both the non attendees and also those on the match .
Just attatching hard hat

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Re: Fans potentially admitted next season with a phased approach

Post by Dyched » Fri May 29, 2020 3:15 pm

It’s won’t be as simple as let 50% in one week and the other the week after. If that’s the approach you’ll be looking at 25% max. It the same for restaurants. They won’t be able to cater for 50% of their capacity.

Take 50% out of the Longside upper and social distancing still won’t work. What will happen at half time when everybody wants the loo or the bar/food. Queues will be backing up into the seating areas. All toilets/bars/shops are positioned quite close to each exit.

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Re: Fans potentially admitted next season with a phased approach

Post by Woodleyclaret » Fri May 29, 2020 3:16 pm

Re squash at half time
Move the bar in the jhu to tge centre
Serve food and coffee directly behing row G HJ
Use the hospitaliry areas for fans before and at half time
Upgrade the water washing and soap and hand driers
If over 70s are banned we wont need these but others can benefit

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Re: Fans potentially admitted next season with a phased approach

Post by BOYSIE31 » Fri May 29, 2020 3:17 pm

As this only affects 1% of the population according to the scientists just tell people with health problems to stay away
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Re: Fans potentially admitted next season with a phased approach

Post by Zlatan » Fri May 29, 2020 3:21 pm

Granny WeatherWax wrote:
Fri May 29, 2020 2:41 pm
if they did a 'you one week me the next' scenario then it would be better than nothing at all.
alternate weeks - OK - I'll go to this weeks game (at home) and you go to next weeks game (away) :D
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Re: Fans potentially admitted next season with a phased approach

Post by TVC15 » Fri May 29, 2020 3:24 pm

I was saying today that for the last 9 games of this season how I thought it would be an idea to let say 500 people in each ground with plenty of room to socially distance between them - maybe even a couple of hundred. Could be just a random draw of season ticket holders or even auctioning them off to raise funds (prefer the former)

It would be good for those people lucky enough to be chosen...

As for phased return next year - personally I think it’s a positive. Would be gutted to miss out but as long as you had as good a chance as any other season ticket holder had it was done as fairly as possible then I think the sooner we get games in front of some kind of crowd the better for everyone - as long as it’s within safety and risk guidelines etc.

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Re: Fans potentially admitted next season with a phased approach

Post by Dyched » Fri May 29, 2020 3:26 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Fri May 29, 2020 3:16 pm
Re squash at half time
Move the bar in the jhu to tge centre
Serve food and coffee directly behing row G HJ
Use the hospitaliry areas for fans before and at half time
Upgrade the water washing and soap and hand driers
If over 70s are banned we wont need these but others can benefit
Moving 2 (I think) bars into 1 won’t change a thing.
Allowing fans into hospitality won’t happen. Why would it. The club would take a huge hit to allow season ticket holders in rather than those that use it now.
Banning over 70s? Why? Allow them in and ban everyone else.
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Re: Fans potentially admitted next season with a phased approach

Post by martin_p » Fri May 29, 2020 3:27 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Fri May 29, 2020 3:16 pm
Re squash at half time
Move the bar in the jhu to tge centre
Serve food and coffee directly behing row G HJ
Use the hospitaliry areas for fans before and at half time
Upgrade the water washing and soap and hand driers
If over 70s are banned we wont need these but others can benefit
I suspect, at least to start with, the concourse food and drink kiosks will be closed.

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Re: Fans potentially admitted next season with a phased approach

Post by martin_p » Fri May 29, 2020 3:29 pm

TVC15 wrote:
Fri May 29, 2020 3:24 pm
I was saying today that for the last 9 games of this season how I thought it would be an idea to let say 500 people in each ground with plenty of room to socially distance between them - maybe even a couple of hundred. Could be just a random draw of season ticket holders or even auctioning them off to raise funds (prefer the former)

It would be good for those people lucky enough to be chosen...

As for phased return next year - personally I think it’s a positive. Would be gutted to miss out but as long as you had as good a chance as any other season ticket holder had it was done as fairly as possible then I think the sooner we get games in front of some kind of crowd the better for everyone - as long as it’s within safety and risk guidelines etc.
To be honest it would be awful watching the game in a stadium with just 500 people in it.

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Re: Fans potentially admitted next season with a phased approach

Post by NottsClaret » Fri May 29, 2020 3:35 pm

martin_p wrote:
Fri May 29, 2020 3:29 pm
To be honest it would be awful watching the game in a stadium with just 500 people in it.
Nice bit of nostalgia for those who went in the 80s. I'd be happy with it, seeing 3 or 4 games in a season would be better than none.

I'd have no concerns watching a game outdoors, it'd be less risk than all cramming into a mate's house to watch. That concourse is a bit of a petri dish at the best of times though, I'll give that a miss.

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Re: Fans potentially admitted next season with a phased approach

Post by lakedistrictclaret » Fri May 29, 2020 3:41 pm

As martin_p says, closing the food and drink outlets will reduce the risk of congestion, as will turning off the TV monitors on the concourses.

We' re a few months off the new season yet. By that time, we may be closer to a vaccine or other treatment. Let's see what happens.

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Re: Fans potentially admitted next season with a phased approach

Post by Woodleyclaret » Fri May 29, 2020 3:46 pm

We have been going on the Turf for 55yrs and we've stopped going to away game because of persistent standing by fans blocking our view,so no away games.
All in all this might be the end of our trips watching at home.If it pans our this way it will be a sad end to our record following our team.
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Re: Fans potentially admitted next season with a phased approach

Post by Grumps » Fri May 29, 2020 3:49 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Fri May 29, 2020 3:16 pm
Re squash at half time
Move the bar in the jhu to tge centre
Serve food and coffee directly behing row G HJ
Use the hospitaliry areas for fans before and at half time
Upgrade the water washing and soap and hand driers
If over 70s are banned we wont need these but others can benefit
Never been a fan of squash at half time, prefer beer
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Re: Fans potentially admitted next season with a phased approach

Post by ClaretTony » Fri May 29, 2020 3:52 pm

TVC15 wrote:
Fri May 29, 2020 3:24 pm
I was saying today that for the last 9 games of this season how I thought it would be an idea to let say 500 people in each ground with plenty of room to socially distance between them - maybe even a couple of hundred. Could be just a random draw of season ticket holders or even auctioning them off to raise funds (prefer the former)

It would be good for those people lucky enough to be chosen...

As for phased return next year - personally I think it’s a positive. Would be gutted to miss out but as long as you had as good a chance as any other season ticket holder had it was done as fairly as possible then I think the sooner we get games in front of some kind of crowd the better for everyone - as long as it’s within safety and risk guidelines etc.
Second method of an auction would be appalling - those who can afford to pay more can come in type of scenario. As for having a draw, again not for me, no one should get in and another not.
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Re: Fans potentially admitted next season with a phased approach

Post by ClaretTony » Fri May 29, 2020 3:53 pm

AlargeClaret wrote:
Fri May 29, 2020 3:14 pm
Just by banning say over 60’s with health conditions as these are an at risk group would help . While I appreciate the Bob lord could be empty ,it won’t affect atmosphere and will help both the non attendees and also those on the match .
Just attatching hard hat
Well done - I think this one wins the stupidity post of the week
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Re: Fans potentially admitted next season with a phased approach

Post by wilks_bfc » Fri May 29, 2020 3:59 pm

TVC15 wrote:
Fri May 29, 2020 3:24 pm
I was saying today that for the last 9 games of this season how I thought it would be an idea to let say 500 people in each ground with plenty of room to socially distance between them - maybe even a couple of hundred. Could be just a random draw of season ticket holders or even auctioning them off to raise funds (prefer the former)

It would be good for those people lucky enough to be chosen...

As for phased return next year - personally I think it’s a positive. Would be gutted to miss out but as long as you had as good a chance as any other season ticket holder had it was done as fairly as possible then I think the sooner we get games in front of some kind of crowd the better for everyone - as long as it’s within safety and risk guidelines etc.
I look forward to my 6yr old nephew coming home after the game to tell us how the game was

And I'm against the auction. This isolates those that can't afford to partake, just like the poppy-shirts auction.
I've always thought a more fairer way would be a raffle at £10 a ticket. Sure it would make more money in the longrun

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Re: Fans potentially admitted next season with a phased approach

Post by ClaretTony » Fri May 29, 2020 4:03 pm

wilks_bfc wrote:
Fri May 29, 2020 3:59 pm
I look forward to my 6yr old nephew coming home after the game to tell us how the game was

And I'm against the auction. This isolates those that can't afford to partake, just like the poppy-shirts auction.
I've always thought a more fairer way would be a raffle at £10 a ticket. Sure it would make more money in the longrun
It's the same with the mascots now, only the kids of the privileged get to do it. When the Junior Clarets was independent it was all done on a draw and free.

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Post by Paul Waine » Fri May 29, 2020 4:06 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Fri May 29, 2020 3:53 pm
Well done - I think this one wins the stupidity post of the week
From my point of view, CT, I'm happy to sit on the "health risk" bench - and look forward to watching the Clarets after these relatively fit and healthy "youngsters" take on and win their covid-19 fight.

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Re: Fans potentially admitted next season with a phased approach

Post by claretblue » Fri May 29, 2020 4:12 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Fri May 29, 2020 2:38 pm
How would you feel if you were one that was told you couldn't go?
there was a day when that would've been the preferred option! ;)

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Re: Fans potentially admitted next season with a phased approach

Post by ClaretTony » Fri May 29, 2020 4:13 pm

claretblue wrote:
Fri May 29, 2020 4:12 pm
there was a day when that would've been the preferred option! ;)

UTC :D
Even when we were shocking back in the 1980s I never didn't want to go. Probably always hoping things would improve.
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Re: Fans potentially admitted next season with a phased approach

Post by TVC15 » Fri May 29, 2020 4:14 pm

I did say a random draw would be my preference !! A raffle would also be fine if the money went to the club.

As for the 6 year old going on his own comment - you could resolve this easy enough - allocate some of the tickets as adult and child ones.

None is this is ideal but for me even a few hundred fans is better than none - and it’s not about creating an atmosphere but more allowing a few fans to watch the games live which for most of us is better than watching on TV.
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Re: Fans potentially admitted next season with a phased approach

Post by MT03ALG » Fri May 29, 2020 4:26 pm

Being mercenary, how would the club deal with Season Tickets ?
The easiest way might be to allow Season Ticket Holders to attend 50% of the home games (difficult with 19 home games) and refund 50% of the cost of the Season Ticket.

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Re: Fans potentially admitted next season with a phased approach

Post by Silkyskills1 » Fri May 29, 2020 4:28 pm

Is Richard Masters part of the government 'think tank'? What a ridiculous, non-thought out idea. I go to the match with my family.Always have and always will. Three generations of us.
Are these people put in a room and locked in until they come up with some innovation or new idea? Incredibly naive.
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Re: Fans potentially admitted next season with a phased approach

Post by TVC15 » Fri May 29, 2020 4:30 pm

MT03ALG wrote:
Fri May 29, 2020 4:26 pm
Being mercenary, how would the club deal with Season Tickets ?
The easiest way might be to allow Season Ticket Holders to attend 50% of the home games (difficult with 19 home games) and refund 50% of the cost of the Season Ticket.
Sorry I was talking more about this season and letting a few hundred in - which isn’t going to happen I know.
I agree with you re next season - season ticket holders on an equal basis.

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Re: Fans potentially admitted next season with a phased approach

Post by BurningBeard » Fri May 29, 2020 4:33 pm

Has anything been said about away fans? If they are not permitted and home fans can use the extra capacity it may mitigate to a small extent.

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Re: Fans potentially admitted next season with a phased approach

Post by Bfc » Fri May 29, 2020 4:44 pm

To me, it's got to be all or nothing re allowing supporters in for a game. If away supporters were not allowed to attend then some home fans could be housed in there.

First options could be given to only to those who have now bought Season Tickets. But that will be at a guess 10,000, equating to roughly 1 every 2 seats. That wont be allowed.
The crowd capacity may need to be somehow reduced to around 5,000, to reduce the Corvid risk.
Keeping all the bars shut inside the ground may reduce the need for some to visit a toilet, lessening the close contact areas. Imagine the screwed up expressions on some fans faces, stood queuing 5 mins for a Pee, if it was stewarded entry.

While the Bob Lord fans are quiet, they're not known for frothing at the mouth, uttering tirades at Refs decisions, or opposition players. At least being sat in there, your not likely to be covered in spit from an irate fan jumping up and down gobbing off and spraying spit on all around them.

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Re: Fans potentially admitted next season with a phased approach

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Fri May 29, 2020 4:57 pm

If it benefitted they team I wouldn’t be opposed to a severally reduced allocation.

Sorting it out would be a logistical nightmare though.

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Post by casualclaret » Fri May 29, 2020 5:21 pm

How's Dave Burnley going to get on all the games?

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Re: Fans potentially admitted next season with a phased approach

Post by Silkyskills1 » Fri May 29, 2020 5:23 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:
Fri May 29, 2020 4:57 pm
If it benefitted they team I wouldn’t be opposed to a severally reduced allocation.

Sorting it out would be a logistical nightmare though.
And that's why it won't or shouldn't happen.

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Re: Fans potentially admitted next season with a phased approach

Post by Bosscat » Fri May 29, 2020 5:24 pm

FactualFrank wrote:
Fri May 29, 2020 3:03 pm
They could have half using the urinals and the other using the sinks.
Doesnt that already occur 🤔

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Re: Fans potentially admitted next season with a phased approach

Post by bodge » Fri May 29, 2020 5:46 pm

We need to allow fans in with 7000 points and above first, the proper fans, those elite fans who’ve been there and done it. No glory hunters or fly by nighters, what we need is a kind of Burnley Leibstandarte or Uber fans brigade.

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Re: Fans potentially admitted next season with a phased approach

Post by jojomk1 » Fri May 29, 2020 6:32 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Fri May 29, 2020 2:38 pm
Richard Masters has said today that the Premier League are optimistic that fans will be admitted next season in a phased approach. I'm assuming that means some of us do get in and some don't.

I don't agree with that approach at all. How would you feel if you were one that was told you couldn't go?
Why not ask the many people who have sadly passed away over the last few months and will now never get the chance to go

Be thankful for what you are given
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Re: Fans potentially admitted next season with a phased approach

Post by Burnleyareback2 » Fri May 29, 2020 6:36 pm

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Fri May 29, 2020 3:14 pm
Just by banning say over 60’s with health conditions as these are an at risk group would help . While I appreciate the Bob lord could be empty ,it won’t affect atmosphere and will help both the non attendees and also those on the match .
Just attatching hard hat
That really is hilarious.

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Re: Fans potentially admitted next season with a phased approach

Post by conyoviejo » Fri May 29, 2020 6:50 pm

Burnleyareback2 wrote:
Fri May 29, 2020 6:36 pm
That really is hilarious.
I think Algarve is on a wind up,well I hope he is.. :lol:
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Re: Fans potentially admitted next season with a phased approach

Post by Rileybobs » Fri May 29, 2020 6:55 pm

Opening up stands for the sake of a few hundred fans really wouldn’t be worth it. The ticket draw would be a logistical issue and then there is the additional requirement for security, crowd safety, disinfecting seats and toilets etc. Obviously if we could get 10-12000 people in then that would be much better than none, although I’m not sure whether that would really minimise the risk of spread.

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Re: Fans potentially admitted next season with a phased approach

Post by conyoviejo » Fri May 29, 2020 7:05 pm

Either let all fans in when safe to do so,or keep playing behind closed doors.. I've never heard anything as daft as letting some fans in and others not.. Phookin idiots.!
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Re: Fans potentially admitted next season with a phased approach

Post by fidelcastro » Fri May 29, 2020 7:19 pm

jojomk1 wrote:
Fri May 29, 2020 6:32 pm

You'll have a heck of a job!

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Re: Fans potentially admitted next season with a phased approach

Post by Dy1geo » Fri May 29, 2020 7:33 pm

As someone in the 4000 points bracket I personally wouldn’t be against those with higher points getting tickets but on the proviso that ID has to be shown to avoid the abuse of buying for mates.

Other than that only those who can prove they were on v Hereford in 0-6 match!!

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