Dave Burnley '2 options legal, 2 illegal'

[MACCA]

Envy, not a nice trait to have...

[paulatky]

Could he be a ball boy.
They will be needed in the stands.

[joey13]

Oh yes, to hell with the number of people who have died, to hell with restrictions placed on everyone, to hell with the fact they are behind closed doors. Get bloody real, no one should be going in our even attempting to.

Agree 100% with this

[Grumps]

Could he be a ball boy.
They will be needed in the stands.

Can I be one then? And all the other burnley fans who have has much right as he has to attend these games ( which is no right at all, by the way)

[Jamesy]

Someone not being serious and probably hoping, due to the publicity and his incredible commitment, someone at the club will fix him up with an official invite ?
Fair enough if it works out for him.

Agreed. It is what you have said. Dave Burnley is not daft and he doesn’t shy away from publicity. He is hoping that someone can indeed fix it for him. Sadly I doubt this will happen as there will be the same issue at all 20 clubs and if the “priveleged” few managed to get into games there would be uproar.
Having said that, I wouldn’t have a problem with it if he pulled it off and managed to attend the remaining fixtures. Whether people like the guy or not, his commitment to BFC is impressive especially travelling from the Potteries for every Match for the last 46 years.

[martin_p]

That's totally fair enough, and we've already established that that's your clear position.
I was really making a more general point about who might "qualify" to attend as "media / press whatever", and it would be my view that people like yourself who report on matches and publish them online to a significant following, have a stronger case for attending and reporting than many others who - I have absolutely no doubt - will get a free pass on far more dubious grounds.
i.e. If I'm not at the game I'd much rather read your match report than anyone elses, though I suppose you could write a report based on tv footage, if it's available to you.
(I haven't anywhere - by the way - said that I support what Dave Burnley has said)

If Dave Burnley gets in there’ll be dozens, if not hundreds, of supporters looking to get in the next game. It’s not about whether anyone ‘deserves’ to go to the game, it’s about keeping people safe. Starting to let people in would open the floodgates.

[paulatky]

Can I be one then? And all the other burnley fans who have has much right as he has to attend these games ( which is no right at all, by the way)

Having not missed a game in 44 years would be good if he could keep his record in tact.
Ball boys will surely be needed and this would be a good solution.
Let all those who have seen every game in last 40 years be ball boys.

[NottsClaret]

If I got offered a pass to watch the games I wouldn't bother. Not for any moral reasons, it's just that watching football without a crowd is one of the more boring things you can do. If I can't find a better way to spend my time, I'll be disappointed.

Just tell me when we're all allowed back in - hopefully sooner than we first thought - not really interested in pro football until then.

[Grumps]

Having not missed a game in 44 years would be good if he could keep his record in tact.
Ball boys will surely be needed and this would be a good solution.
Let all those who have seen every game in last 40 years be ball boys.

Even if it spreads the virus?

[martin_p]

Agreed. It is what you have said. Dave Burnley is not daft and he doesn’t shy away from publicity. He is hoping that someone can indeed fix it for him. Sadly I doubt this will happen as there will be the same issue at all 20 clubs and if the “priveleged” few managed to get into games there would be uproar.
Having said that, I wouldn’t have a problem with it if he pulled it off and managed to attend the remaining fixtures. Whether people like the guy or not, his commitment to BFC is impressive especially travelling from the Potteries for every Match for the last 46 years.

I’ve never understood this ‘he travels from the potteries’ thing. Stoke is about a 90 minute drive from Burnley. It takes me that long to get to Burnley from where I live but I don’t make a big deal out of it.

[paulatky]

Even if it spreads the virus?

Guess all those there, press ,ball boys would be tested and would social distance.

[Burnley Ace]

They should raffle off, with appropriate tests, the “ball retrievers” (masked, gloved and disinfected). Who carries the stretcher, are they club employees?

[claretonthecoast1882]

I’ve never understood this ‘he travels from the potteries’ thing. Stoke is about a 90 minute drive from Burnley. It takes me that long to get to Burnley from where I live but I don’t make a big deal out of it.

Takes me longer than that to walk home from the train station after a 5.30 kick off, despite the station being half a mile away

[Billy Balfour]

We'll end up with football being stopped before it's hardly started if others have similar ideas and act on them.

Also, the sense of entitlement is massive here: I'M A SUPERFAN AND I WILL GO TO THE MATCH AND TO HELL WITH EVERYONE ELSE.

[SalisburyClaret]

Sat next to him once, for no reason he had a go at the Burnley fan behind him because he had a southern accent. Got quite heated.
Much as I admire his attendance record, attending these games shouldn't be an option

[Bin Ont Turf]

Can he pay on the gate?

[Im_not_Robbie_Blake]

DB is not the most important Burnley fan - we are all equally part of this. He must realise that he has to adhere to the same rules as the rest of us. We all wish we could go, but we can't, and one day we will. That's it. Meanwhile, we have to work at getting rid of this virus and keeping everybody well.

Football will return, but some people sadly won't be able to.

[ksrclaret]

What a brilliant thread. It’s got a bit of something for everyone.

He deserves his crown of no 1 Burnley fan and his dedication to the cause is admirable. He puts the rest of us so called Burnley fans to shame. Good for him I say, hope he manages to get in selling the golden gamble.

[Rowls]

Some real killjoys on here.

Good luck to Dave Burnley and best of luck to him getting inside.

[Grumps]

Some real killjoys on here.

Good luck to Dave Burnley and best of luck to him getting inside.

Killjoys?...... It's all about people being killed by the virus and trying to stop it, do you not get that?
The Premier league very nearly didn't get the go-ahead because of this very problem, fans turning up at grounds when games are being played, yet it is ok because he's a burnley fan?

Imagine the outrage on here if any other fans from different clubs started turning up at grounds

I thought it would only be the braindead who turned up, and here we are, people actually encouraging it.

[MACCA]

Theyll be plenty of people wanting him to miss one, and pribably have wanted him to do s for years.
There's lots of envious people around in this world, and more than a few who would be quite happy for his 46 year run to end regardless whether covid19 restrictions were in place or not.
Quite sad really.

Rocky gets similar grief and slurs.

[Grumps]

What a brilliant thread. It’s got a bit of something for everyone.

He deserves his crown of no 1 Burnley fan and his dedication to the cause is admirable. He puts the rest of us so called Burnley fans to shame. Good for him I say, hope he manages to get in selling the golden gamble.

I take it this is meant as sarcasm

[paulatky]

I take it this is meant as sarcasm

Why do you think that ?

I read it for whats its worth.
What an achievement to go 44 years not missing a game.

[paulatky]

DB is not the most important Burnley fan - we are all equally part of this. He must realise that he has to adhere to the same rules as the rest of us. We all wish we could go, but we can't, and one day we will. That's it. Meanwhile, we have to work at getting rid of this virus and keeping everybody well.

Football will return, but some people sadly won't be able to.

We were not equal before civid-19.

You are judged in loyalty points for away games

[lakedistrictclaret]

I've known Dave a long time, I used to see him on the train between Preston and Burnley Central in the late sixties. He's a good bloke.

If he can find a legal way to see the remaining games, good for him. Any attempt to gain access illegally cannot possibly be condoned.

[Billy Balfour]

I take it this is meant as sarcasm

I hope so.

[Stalbansclaret]

Oh yes, to hell with the number of people who have died, to hell with restrictions placed on everyone, to hell with the fact they are behind closed doors. Get bloody real, no one should be going in our even attempting to.

Crikey Tony...cool your jets. Obviously if he attended, with the club's support as I proposed, he would have to be tested the same as everyone else. I was proposing the club make an exception for him given the specific circumstances of his "fame" and my personal preference that we keep his record going as he regularly attracts some good-humoured publicity for our club.

[claretonthecoast1882]

We were not equal before civid-19.

You are judged in loyalty points for away games

Think you mean rewarded

[Grumps]

Why do you think that ?

I read it for whats its worth.
What an achievement to go 44 years not missing a game.

Probably because iam quite offended that he thinks Dave Burnley puts me and all other burnley fans to shame

[ElectroClaret]

Let all those who have seen every game in last 40 years be ball boys.

I haven't missed a game in 50 years, League, Fa Cup, League Cup, European games, play-offs, Sherpa Van, Anglo-Scottish Cup and friendlies, home or away.

Actually, that's all lies, but who's to disprove it?

See the problem here?

[paulatky]

Probably because iam quite offended that he thinks Dave Burnley puts me and all other burnley fans to shame

At least DB doesnt spend all his life on social media. Well not the one who’s subject of this thread.

[ksrclaret]

I take it this is meant as sarcasm

No, deadly serious. I know there won’t be any fans to purchase a golden gamble ticket but I should think the players would quite like the opportunity to enter the prize draw with the chance of winning a meal for two at the Rose & Bowl.

[cricketfieldclarets]

If any employee of burnley football club, does anything to help him get into a game, I hope they get fired on the spot

Just trying to work out how you came up with your username.

[paulatky]

I haven't missed a game in 50 years, League, Fa Cup, League Cup, European games, play-offs, Sherpa Van, Anglo-Scottish Cup and friendlies, home or away.

Actually, that's all lies, but who's to disprove it?

See the problem here?

But Dave Burnley is not lies is it.

[Swizzlestick]

Could be a classic thread, this.

[TVC15]

I don’t know the definition of a “superfan” but my guess would be not missing a game for 44 years would be somewhere near to it.
It’s hardly a surprise that he would like to go to the games for something that has clearly become for him this meaningful and this obsessive.

He’s clearly being tongue in cheek with some of the options and trying to get publicity for himself to see if there is a chance of the club allowing it.
I don’t see much wrong with what he is saying - and that does not mean I think he should be allowed to watch the game.

I already said on another thread that I think if we allowed a few hundred fans in the ground - if it was logistically possible and safe to do so - then that would be a positive thing for those who could attend.

If that was allowed and I was lucky enough to be selected I wouldn’t give up my seat so DB could go but if the club treated him as an exception and let him go on the games I would not be bothered either. Neither would it bother me if he was the only supporter allowed to watch the game.

[Rileybobs]

Theyll be plenty of people wanting him to miss one, and pribably have wanted him to do s for years.
There's lots of envious people around in this world, and more than a few who would be quite happy for his 46 year run to end regardless whether covid19 restrictions were in place or not.
Quite sad really.

Rocky gets similar grief and slurs.

Why would anyone be envious of him? I don’t understand that. If I wanted to attend every single Burnley game I would do.

Bizarre that some people are condoning a bloke threatening to illegally gain access to football stadiums.

[ElectroClaret]

But Dave Burnley is not lies is it.

And I didn't say he is lying.
I'm asking how you'd turn away everyone else who followed in his wake and claimed the same.

Think you'd have quite a few "uber-fans" on your hands.

[Billy Balfour]

Pretty poor that people are defending him. The matches aren't being played behind closed doors as part of a sanction. Anyway, if you want the season to end early, along with all the serious financial implications, then go along, break the rules and maybe help spread a little C-19 to your family and everyone else.

[tiger76]

Just browsing this thread it throws up extremes on all sides that's rare for an UTC thread, now as i understand it DB couldn't just turn up at the Turf and be granted access, however if he was invited by the club for whatever reason he could attend.

This does throw up interesting questions as to exactly how many people will be allowed into the grounds once we restart.

So naturally you'll have the players and officials, then the backroom staff from both clubs, ballboys/ballgirls i assume,i'd guess they'll also have to be some form of ambulance type assistance available in the event of medical emergencies.

Then apparently the directors will be allowed in along with invited guests, so i imagine if DB could somehow wangle his way onto the guest list he'd be able to attend.

Going by the letter of the law he strictly shouldn't be attending, but you do wonder if his media appearances, and long time devotion will sway the club into making an exemption.

Even if BFC do give him exemption and allow him on the turf, i have to wonder how he'll manage to see the away games we have remaining.

Out of curiosity when it states Dave has never missed a game, does that include friendlies, because i'm pretty sure there's been occasions in pre-season when we've played 2 fixtures at the same time, so as devoted as Dave is even he can't have attended 2 venues at the same time.

[Grumps]

I haven't read his books, but out of interest does he work full time along with attending all these games?

[Devils_Advocate]

I think giving DB the opportunity to watch the games legally and within the rules that are agreed by the league seems a good and sensible idea to me.

I am guessing there will be scope for a small number of fans to be in the stadium so I would like to make the case for myself (CT if you could pass this on to the club I'd be very grateful)

• I rarely go on Turf Moor so it would be a real treat for me to watch the team live and as a result it would feel more special and I would enjoy it more than you lot who go on regularly

• I currently watch Burnley matches through illegal means so if the club have to do something a little underhand to make it happen I can be trusted to hold my nerve and ensure the club isn't found out. I can imagine a lot of you on here would fall to pieces under the pressure and turn into a grass to save your own skin

I know not everyone will agree with me but you have to acknowledge I have made a good case

[mikeS]

Have the League not issued instructions to the clubs on who can/ cannot, should/ should not attend close-doors games?

[AfloatinClaret]

...we have about 15,000 who never missed a game in the 80s...

They must've had some good camouflage gear. I watched quite a few Burnley away games in the S & SE of England during the 80's and there were midweek nights when there weren't much more than a few hundred in the away end.

[Burnley1989]

I think giving DB the opportunity to watch the games legally and within the rules that are agreed by the league seems a good and sensible idea to me.

I am guessing there will be scope for a small number of fans to be in the stadium so I would like to make the case for myself (CT if you could pass this on to the club I'd be very grateful)

• I rarely go on Turf Moor so it would be a real treat for me to watch the team live and as a result it would feel more special and I would enjoy it more than you lot who go on regularly

• I currently watch Burnley matches through illegal means so if the club have to do something a little underhand to make it happen I can be trusted to hold my nerve and ensure the club isn't found out. I can imagine a lot of you on here would fall to pieces under the pressure and turn into a grass to save your own skin

I know not everyone will agree with me but you have to acknowledge I have made a good case

You crack me up mate , but make some great points as always.

Personally I think they should just open the disabled stand just for Dave, he’d be no hazard to anybody up there or he could fork the pitch at HT etc

[martin_p]

Some real killjoys on here.

Good luck to Dave Burnley and best of luck to him getting inside.

If people start turning up at grounds expecting to get in it’ll soon kill the joy for all of us as football will be suspended again.

[ClaretTony]

Crikey Tony...cool your jets. Obviously if he attended, with the club's support as I proposed, he would have to be tested the same as everyone else. I was proposing the club make an exception for him given the specific circumstances of his "fame" and my personal preference that we keep his record going as he regularly attracts some good-humoured publicity for our club.

I’d be furious if the club supported him.

[Darnhill Claret]

There will be a ‘guest list’ and some people will be invited. I would be more than happy for Dave B to be a substitute guest and could replace an original on said list, as I’m also fairly certain there would be at least one original guest who would choose to turn down the opportunity.

[martin_p]

I presume people would be happy with Alastair Campbell being invited along too, he’s more famous than Dave Burnley.

[Steve1956]

If they bend the rules for him you might as well do it for everyone else,Old Trafford would have 75,000 super fans,ok he goes to games but it still dosent make him more privileged than anyone else who supports Burnley,the run of consecutive games for DB is sadly about to end.