The arrogance of Pochettino

[Woodleyclaret]

According to reports Poch wants a job only with a team who will compete for trophies
Remind me what ha he actually won ?

[Winstonswhite]

He must be a shoe in for the Newcastle job if the takeover ever gets completed. Then we’ll see if he lives up to the hype.

[Steve1956]

He comes across as a lovely fella,a top manager?....im not convinced

[Bosscat]

Tripps likes him but ....... a top winning manager I am not so sure.

[randomclaret2]

Hes in no hurry, arent Tottenham still paying him ?

[Swizzlestick]

Considering he was competing for trophies with Spurs, I don’t think it’s an unreasonable request?

[Dyched]

His Southampton and Tottenham teams were superb to watch and did pretty well. Hasn’t won owt but were they really expected to? To get Spurs to a UCL final is far a greater achievement than Pep winning the league at City.

The one concern though. Spurs finished 3rd in a 2 horse race for the title

[tiger76]

That was always the question mark over Poch, does he have the winning mentality, i'm fairly certain that in his stint at Spurs every other big club won a trophy of some description, whereas for all the plaudits he received he came up empty-handed season after season, he may live to regret his decision to turn down Nan Utd when the chance was there.

If he wants to compete for honours why on earth is he going to Newcastle, unless he thinks their new owners will spend mega bucks.

[UpTheClaretsFCBK]

Considering he was competing for trophies with Spurs, I don’t think it’s an unreasonable request?

He's been in finals, but they never looked like winning either of them.

Lost 2-0 in the Champions league Final to Liverpool - 2019
Lost 2-0 in the League Cup Final to Chelsea - 2015

2018/19 - 21 points behind the title
2017/18 - 23 points behind the title
2016/17 - 7 points behind the title
2015/16 - 11 point behind the title
2014/15 - 23 points behind the title

Some might call him 'a specialist in failure'.

[Swizzlestick]

He's been in finals, but they never looked like winning either of them.

Lost 2-0 in the Champions league Final to Liverpool - 2019
Lost 2-0 in the League Cup Final to Chelsea - 2015

2018/19 - 21 points behind the title
2017/18 - 23 points behind the title
2016/17 - 7 points behind the title
2015/16 - 11 point behind the title
2014/15 - 23 points behind the title

Some might call him 'a specialist in failure'.

Wasn’t that levelled at Klopp once? And reaching a final is competing pretty well.

I’d imagine most Spurs fans would equally lay the blame at Levy’s relative prudence in the transfer market.

[Dyched]

He's been in finals, but they never looked like winning either of them.

Lost 2-0 in the Champions league Final to Liverpool - 2019
Lost 2-0 in the League Cup Final to Chelsea - 2015

2018/19 - 21 points behind the title
2017/18 - 23 points behind the title
2016/17 - 7 points behind the title
2015/16 - 11 point behind the title
2014/15 - 23 points behind the title

Some might call him 'a specialist in failure'.

I never see the fairness to compare spurs with the rest of the top 6.

It’s like comparing Burnley with Wolves, Leicester, West Ham, Everton.

In Top 6 terms their a small, low wage, selling club to those around. So see that they’ve consistently finished in and around them for over 10 years is pretty remarkable.

[Rileybobs]

I’m sure Pochettino is wealthy enough to be able to choose who he works for. That’s not arrogance.

[KateR]

Ambitious or Arrogant, often mixed up I think and easy to see both but for me I see him as ambitious, which is a trait that every manager should have in my opinion. Circumstances will dictate when he takes the next job, we don't always get that "dream" job but he can afford to wait for now, I am still not convinced about the Newcastle take over but if it happens they will want results and quickly. Can see wholesale changes happening if it goes ahead, Pochettino would get a club matching his ambitions but not a whole lot of time to prove himself, be a big ask to win something with them say in two seasons for example.

[Wile E Coyote]

hes probably a real talent, but unlike managers like Klopp who have suffered defeats at the highest level, poch has yet to win something when the chips are down. Might be just circumstance and timing, but there's every chance he'll be one of those that when folk look back on google in a few years it will show nothing in the part that displays honours.
Klopp and others have that steely determination that sets true winners apart. I dont think Pochettino is in the same category .

[boyyanno]

If he's not a good manager then who is? Some nonsense spouted on here for sure.

[Woodleyclaret]

Hes won the square root of sod all ,that was my original point and why I see him as arrogant assuming there will be a queue for his managerial services from top sides

[Spijed]

In Top 6 terms their a small, low wage, selling club to those around. So see that they’ve consistently finished in and around them for over 10 years is pretty remarkable.

Everton did the same with David Moyes. Says it all.

[gandhisflipflop]

Everton did the same with David Moyes. Says it all.

With respect, back then there was no such thing as a top 6. It was all about the top 4 and to break into that was extremely difficult given the financial gulf between the top 4 and the rest.

[ClaretTony]

Spurs should really have won the league in 2016 but didn't even finish second. Other than that, it is very difficult to criticise Pochettino. There are far bigger clubs than Spurs in the Premier League who are always going to be more likely to win the trophies.

[tiger76]

If he's not a good manager then who is? Some nonsense spouted on here for sure.

No-one's saying he's not a good manager, but as yet he's not proved himself to be a winning manager. He may prove to be so in time and at the right club, but until that happens doubts will remain.

[IanMcL]

According to reports Poch wants a job only with a team who will compete for trophies
Remind me what ha he actually won ?

Compete, he said, not win!

[boyyanno]

No-one's saying he's not a good manager, but as yet he's not proved himself to be a winning manager. He may prove to be so in time and at the right club, but until that happens doubts will remain.

Of course he's a winning manager, won far more and did far more than was expected at Spurs and Southampton.

Do games in finals only count? A manager who takes a worse side to a final is arguably better than the one who wins it with a better side. Poch could have walked in to any job he wanted when he left Spurs.

[ecc]

Hi boyyanno,

Totally agree with you:

"A manager who takes a worse side to a final is arguably better than the one who wins it with a better side."