ARTICLE: Ten Burnley defeats that really hurt

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Tue Jun 02, 2020 2:32 pm

rodleydave / davet takes a look at ten defeats

See link
https://www.uptheclarets.com/ten-burnle ... eally-hurt

CleggHall · Post by **CleggHall** » Tue Jun 02, 2020 3:13 pm

That Wimbledon defeat really hurt, seem to remember their goalie, Dickie Guy?, having a great game.
Newcastle well and truly outplayed until Hibbitt slipped MacDonald in for a couple.

evensteadiereddie · Post by **evensteadiereddie** » Tue Jun 02, 2020 3:16 pm

The Swindon Town League Cup defeat broke my heart.

JohnDearyMe · Post by **JohnDearyMe** » Tue Jun 02, 2020 4:11 pm

Fully agree with the Watford Cup defeat; our approach to the game was shocking. I'd also have thr hammering at Ewood under Stan in there.

groove · Post by **groove** » Tue Jun 02, 2020 4:24 pm

JohnDearyMe wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 02, 2020 4:11 pm
Fully agree with the Watford Cup defeat; our approach to the game was shocking. I'd also have thr hammering at Ewood under Stan in there.

Yeah I'd have that one in there too.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Tue Jun 02, 2020 4:29 pm

Yet another vote for the Watford match.
We just didn't turn up on the day.

Bitterly disappointed, the best chance we'd had for Cup glory for ages.

And we must have a dreadful record against Scarborough.

Stanbill05 · Post by **Stanbill05** » Tue Jun 02, 2020 4:29 pm

Really enjoyed that.

Blackburn 5-0. Torquay play offs when we didn’t turn up and the Watford cup wasted opportunity were the three the immediately sprang to my mind.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Tue Jun 02, 2020 4:31 pm

good article, not sure I'd put the Bolton defeat in my top 100 though to be honest !

Silkyskills1 · Post by **Silkyskills1** » Tue Jun 02, 2020 4:35 pm

My dad and brother were at the semi in '61. They arrived home adamant that we'd been robbed.
Never understood it myself. We let in three goals(as we did in the final 12 months later where we just never turned up), scored none and were claiming some sort of.moral victory. We had some great tussles with Spurs around that time,winning our share but the semi scoreline always tells me a different story from the one my dad trotted out.
Interesting idea to choose defeats that hurt and of course the older we are the list just gets longer. I would include the play-off 3rd game v Swindon in '68. Coming back home from the Hawthorns was yet another occasion where nothing was said during the car journey.

Top Claret · Post by **Top Claret** » Tue Jun 02, 2020 4:41 pm

Palace away 1983. Last game of the season and we got relegated after just one miserable season back in the 2nd division, with a long journey home along with 12 others in a Tranny van

Culmclaret · Post by **Culmclaret** » Tue Jun 02, 2020 4:50 pm

Another vote for Palace in 83. Was do or die and we just died. Was so hopeful after getting a good point at Leicester but we never showed up which with the talent we had in that team was inexplicable. I got thrown out for complaining against over zealous policing but managed to climb back in. Wish I hadn’t bothered

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Tue Jun 02, 2020 5:01 pm

The Wimbledon defeat was the worst by far. No rationale really but I know i didnt speak for a week after it.

Vino blanco · Post by **Vino blanco** » Tue Jun 02, 2020 5:18 pm

For some reason the League Cup defeat against Swindon at the Hawthorns was absolutely devastating for me, worse than our FA cup defeats. I really fancied our chances of getting to Wembley for a big game,

huw.Y.WattfromWare · Post by **huw.Y.WattfromWare** » Tue Jun 02, 2020 5:18 pm

The 5-0 QF replay defeat at Sheff Wed rankles with me. We should have won at home, it didn’t help missing a pen.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Tue Jun 02, 2020 5:34 pm

Silkyskills1 wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 02, 2020 4:35 pm
My dad and brother were at the semi in '61. They arrived home adamant that we'd been robbed.
Never understood it myself. We let in three goals(as we did in the final 12 months later where we just never turned up), scored none and were claiming some sort of.moral victory. We had some great tussles with Spurs around that time,winning our share but the semi scoreline always tells me a different story from the one my dad trotted out.
Interesting idea to choose defeats that hurt and of course the older we are the list just gets longer. I would include the play-off 3rd game v Swindon in '68. Coming back home from the Hawthorns was yet another occasion where nothing was said during the car journey.

I posted it on another thread recently but my dad was convinced we were robbed. Had a perfectly good goal disallowed and one of their goals didn't go in. All set up so Kelly (from Chorley) could referee a cup final in his final season. Had we got there he would not have been allowed to referee it.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Tue Jun 02, 2020 5:38 pm

Was having a think over these and the worst for me were undoubtedly Crewe in 1987 and the 1974 semi-final. They are way ahead of others in my list.

But then I'd have Watford cup game in 2003, Palace in 1983, Swindon replay in 1968. The Coventry game in 2002, which we won 1-0 but it felt like a defeat. Torquay in 1991 was abysmal and there are a few more.

But as long as I live I'll never forget Crewe

matttheclaret · Post by **matttheclaret** » Tue Jun 02, 2020 5:41 pm

Still can't work out what Stan was thinking with that team selection at Watford

turfytopper · Post by **turfytopper** » Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:03 pm

Top Claret wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 02, 2020 4:41 pm
Palace away 1983. Last game of the season and we got relegated after just one miserable season back in the 2nd division, with a long journey home along with 12 others in a Tranny van

Was that the night palace were promoted too?

ashtonlongsider · Post by **ashtonlongsider** » Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:05 pm

Some pretty nightmarish losses there but for me the FA Cup semi at Hillsborough was the most disappointing. The atmosphere that day was unbelievable. Never heard the Geordies until about 2.55pm but once they started they made some noise. Only glad/blessing being there was no roof on the Kop.

groove · Post by **groove** » Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:28 pm

My Dad said he cried at Hillsborough in 74.

groove · Post by **groove** » Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:31 pm

turfytopper wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:03 pm
Was that the night palace were promoted too?

I think that was 79. There was over 50 thousand on the gate that night.

kritichris · Post by **kritichris** » Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:56 pm

The Newcastle semi was the worst for me but for some reason I vividly remember getting stuffed 5-0 at Oxford's old Manor ground in '96. That hurt.

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:04 pm

I was at Wimbledon and Newcastle. I found Wimbledon more of an embarrassment, and Newcastle more frustrating. Trying to explain to Geordie fans, who weren't there, that we played them off the pitch, only to be accused of sour grapes. At 17 I hated MacDonald. I forgave him 20 odd years later when I heard him on a radio show say that Burnley had indeed played them off the park.
I also suffered the Palace away. It's such a hell of a long way to go, for such an important match, and just never show up. What a horrendous journey home.
I never got to Watford, but I can remember the astonishment at the team selection, and then anger, at the performance and the result. What a wasted opportunity.

LS7 · Post by **LS7** » Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:08 pm

Sheffield United 3 0 this season must be up there

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:08 pm

For hurt nothing before or since has come close to the game at Gresty Rd in 87.

LS7 · Post by **LS7** » Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:09 pm

Millwall away in the cup - would have had a good chance of Wembley

Burnley Ace · Post by **Burnley Ace** » Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:11 pm

The Blackburn 5-0 is my worst. I’d been invited to go “corporate”, by full time my hosts were to embarrassed to gloat. I will never do that again.

Silkyskills1 · Post by **Silkyskills1** » Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:26 pm

Crewe on a Bank holiday Monday in 1987, as a few have already mentioned, has to have been the worst feeling at an away game I have ever experienced. Then there was a torturous 5 day wait before the final game during which I had to endure all sorts of people's opinions. Suffice to say, I remembered them the next time we met up.

Herts Clarets · Post by **Herts Clarets** » Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:27 pm

Burnley 0-6 Hereford United is one not mentioned.

Agree with the Crewe defeat, I along with many others thought that was it for our club.

Claret Toni · Post by **Claret Toni** » Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:56 pm

Can't say I enjoyed the read, but well written

Surprised the Man City defeat is included - it felt like just par for the coarse at the time.

Went to the game with my eldest son and as the Lady wife was away that weekend, after the game he and I went to a restaurant we both fancied. Ate in total silence, no rage, just an acceptance we'd been totally outclassed.

ashtonlongsider · Post by **ashtonlongsider** » Tue Jun 02, 2020 8:13 pm

LS7 wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:08 pm
Sheffield United 3 0 this season must be up there

Agree, really hurt and to rub salt in the wounds it took 90 minutes afterwards getting off Ayre Street multi storey.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Tue Jun 02, 2020 8:19 pm

Colburn_Claret wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:04 pm

I never got to Watford, but I can remember the astonishment at the team selection, and then anger, at the performance and the result. What a wasted opportunity.

It seemed Stan wanted to prove a point by leaving Little and Blake on the bench.

depechedingle · Post by **depechedingle** » Tue Jun 02, 2020 8:46 pm

Quite recently I'd have considered the 5th round home defeat to then non league Lincoln.

If only we had seen the obvious sucker punch coming!!!

Bribfc · Post by **Bribfc** » Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:08 pm

Crewe away in 1987, was by far the worse one for me, i thought we was dead and buried after that. Glad i was too young for the Newcastle one in 74, because my late father, told me many a time that it broke him that day

ClaretLoup · Post by **ClaretLoup** » Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:23 pm

The 1968 League Cup semi is glaring omission. 2 - 1 up and Bellamy went and put the ball in his own net. Then Uwe of all people killed us off. As close as we have ever got to a Wembley Final since 1962 and Swindon were in the Third Division.

My memory is that they kicked seven bells out of Burnley in the first leg.

Rodleydave · Post by **Rodleydave** » Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:01 pm

In these articles there is no such thing as a glaring omission... all opinions are personal, there are no rights and wrongs.

claptrappers_union · Post by **claptrappers_union** » Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:15 pm

I think depends on your age, Football seems to matter more when your younger, but for me... (forgive me if the years are wrong)

Burnley 0 - 5 Gillingham (1998/99)
Burnley 0 - 6 Man City (1998/99)
Blackburn 5 - 0 Burnley (2000/01)

Sean Dyche v Easily beatable lower-league opposition (since appointment)

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:05 am

evensteadiereddie wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 02, 2020 3:16 pm
The Swindon Town League Cup defeat broke my heart.

Broke mine to....Wembley against Arsenal when getting to wembley meant something very special.

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:10 am

huw.Y.WattfromWare wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 02, 2020 5:18 pm
The 5-0 QF replay defeat at Sheff Wed rankles with me. We should have won at home, it didn’t help missing a pen.

Agreed.it was a slippery slope not long after.

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:42 am

groove wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:31 pm
I think that was 79. There was over 50 thousand on the gate that night.

I was there with Barry Kilby. Was a long night

Damo · Post by **Damo** » Wed Jun 03, 2020 2:39 am

Leicester at home in 2015 was an absolute sickener

UpTheClaretsFCBK · Post by **UpTheClaretsFCBK** » Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:22 am

Mine is definitely April 2, 2001 - Blackburn 5 - 0 Burnley, my first east Lancashire derby. I was 10 years old.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Wed Jun 03, 2020 10:38 am

UpTheClaretsFCBK wrote: ↑
Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:22 am
Mine is definitely April 2, 2001 - Blackburn 5 - 0 Burnley, my first east Lancashire derby. I was 10 years old.

Must have been horrendous for that to have been your first EL derby - my first trip there ended in defeat but we did win six and draw one of my next seven visits.

Cirrus_Minor · Post by **Cirrus_Minor** » Wed Jun 03, 2020 10:46 am

Very good article, would agree with most of the games chosen.

On the night after the Wimbledon home defeat I was in the Cats Whiskers. The resident group, an awful act called ‘The Ricky Allen Set’, thought it would be funny to sing the Wombles song.

There was a near riot. The whole place was shouting and angry at the idiot. People were having to be restrained by the bouncers to stop them climbing on the stage.

The club had wheel someone out to apologise and the lead singer had to sneak out for his own safety.

Swizzlestick · Post by **Swizzlestick** » Wed Jun 03, 2020 10:46 am

Too young to remember a few of these but the Rovers 5-0 was sickening. Usually a bit ****** off after a defeat but can move on pretty quickly - not that one. Horrible.

And yeah, not sure why the City game is included. There was just a huge gulf in class and it actually brought some gallows humour as the match went on.

Top Claret · Post by **Top Claret** » Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:18 pm

My dad and grandad attended the 68 replay v Swindon at the Hawthorns. I was an 8 years old and wasn't allowed to attend being a school night, never forget rising in the morning excited thinking we are on our way to Wembley, then my dad telling me the bad news.

NottsClaret · Post by **NottsClaret** » Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:28 pm

claptrappers_union wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:15 pm
I think depends on your age, Football seems to matter more when your younger

That's true, the memories are certainly more imprinted. I'll add a couple not mentioned yet, though hardly relevant in our club's history.

1-0 defeat at Blackpool in the Cup in '90. First time I'd seen us in the Third Round, which seemed exciting and shows how s**t we were then. Got crammed into that paddock at the side, Burnley were rubbish and it all kicked off on the car park which isn't fun when you're a kid.

And that 6-1 loss at PNE in '91 in whatever that cup was called then. Spent longer getting in than watching the game.

Petersa · Post by **Petersa** » Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:34 pm

Eintracht Frankfurt anyone?

Fretters · Post by **Fretters** » Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:37 pm

matttheclaret wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 02, 2020 5:41 pm
Still can't work out what Stan was thinking with that team selection at Watford

He picked the team that had beaten Premier League Fulham 3-0 in the previous round.

Hibsclaret · Post by **Hibsclaret** » Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:39 pm

huw.Y.WattfromWare wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 02, 2020 5:18 pm
The 5-0 QF replay defeat at Sheff Wed rankles with me. We should have won at home, it didn’t help missing a pen.

This for me. Hard to believe it’s 37 years ago and 6 years before the tragedy in the middle pen. Was in the right hand pen myself listening to “singing the blues” all game and disliking that song ever since. Think Gary Megson played for them that night