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Marcus Rashford

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 1:08 pm
by Bordeauxclaret
What an amazing amount of work he’s done over the last few months, just breaking now that the government will now be extending food vouchers to hungry children over the summer holidays.
Well done that man.

Re: Marcus Rashford

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 1:11 pm
by TVC15
Well done indeed.
He’s spoken very well about this - especially for a 22 year old.
He’s the future of Man United in my opinion. The likes of Pogba, Martial etc are not.

Re: Marcus Rashford

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 1:13 pm
by ecc
Fully agree. He has given a fine impression of himself as person.

Re: Marcus Rashford

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 1:13 pm
by martin_p
Wonder if Matt Hancock regrets asking footballers to ‘contribute’?

Re: Marcus Rashford

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 1:14 pm
by Iloveyoubrady
He’s underrated in my opinion. Good guy and a proper player, should be in the England side on the left or up top.

Re: Marcus Rashford

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 1:15 pm
by evensteadiereddie
A fabulous effort.

Nice to see a bloke identifying a very serious issue regarding children's welfare and actually doing something about it by using wider social media (not just a football message board) and writing an open letter to MPs.

Issue identified, issue publicised, issue sorted. Good man, a great example for others to follow..............

Re: Marcus Rashford

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 1:16 pm
by ClaretTony
martin_p wrote:
Tue Jun 16, 2020 1:13 pm
Wonder if Matt Hancock regrets asking footballers to ‘contribute’?
Just come off the phone to a friend of mine and we were discussing just that.

As for Rashford - outstanding from him.

Re: Marcus Rashford

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 1:18 pm
by Silkyskills1
Spoke really well on TV yesterday. Hard to think that in 2020 there has to be any discussion or decision made about feeding hungry children. Then again I suppose it depends on your definition of hungry.

Re: Marcus Rashford

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 1:22 pm
by Billy Balfour
What a great lad. A 22 year old footballer forces a govt U-turn on an issue that will do so much good. He's come out of this well and deserves too, unlike Theresa Coffrey.

Re: Marcus Rashford

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 1:24 pm
by TVC15
Silkyskills1 wrote:
Tue Jun 16, 2020 1:18 pm
Spoke really well on TV yesterday. Hard to think that in 2020 there has to be any discussion or decision made about feeding hungry children. Then again I suppose it depends on your definition of hungry.
I’ve been into schools in deprived areas of the north west and when you see some of the kids who you know have got big problems at home eat at breakfast clubs you know that they are very hungry and they are not being fed properly at home. It’s especially visible on a Monday morning when they have had a weekend of being deprived of regular meals.

Re: Marcus Rashford

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 1:27 pm
by Vino blanco
Remarkable actions from a remarkable young man, well done him. I just wish some of these so called protesters we have seen on the streets recently would channel their efforts in similar directions. Again, well done Marcus, a fine example for the youth of our country.

Re: Marcus Rashford

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 1:28 pm
by Damo
Well done Marcus Rashford. Theres been so much doom and gloom in the media recently. It's fantastic to read news like this. And the fact he's a footballer is the icing on the cake

Re: Marcus Rashford

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 1:29 pm
by ksrclaret
Absolutely amazing from Rashford. His experience of child poverty will now make things just that little bit easier for all those kids in poverty today. Shame the guys in charge don’t have any understanding of what life is like for some people.

Shameful that it took this long, and that it took a 22 year old footballer to make the difference.

Re: Marcus Rashford

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 3:17 pm
by mikeS
Well done Marcus Rashford for his campaign, fund-raising and worthy cause in feeding poor families. Good on him.

Re: Marcus Rashford

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 3:20 pm
by NewClaret
Grown in my estimations no end!

Re: Marcus Rashford

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 3:58 pm
by Stayingup
Really good from this northern lad. 10/10

Re: Marcus Rashford

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 4:07 pm
by beddie
I've been in that posistion so it's hats off to this young man, an absolute hero for me.

Re: Marcus Rashford

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 4:09 pm
by pushpinpussy
Excellent free publicity for him. Sponsorship deals on the way I assume

Re: Marcus Rashford

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 4:31 pm
by Billy Balfour
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Re: Marcus Rashford

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 4:51 pm
by quoonbeatz
Today's news is the icing on the cake. Rashford is a credit to himself and his mum. He's done loads of great stuff already but this is some achievement.

Re: Marcus Rashford

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 5:15 pm
by Pstotto
I wrote to my MP suggesting life road bans for killer drivers but no response. Perhaps I'd better write to the soon-to-be aired 'Marcus will sort it', now that 'Jim'll Fix it' is no longer on the box.

Re: Marcus Rashford

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 5:22 pm
by Buxtonclaret
He's always seemed a pretty grounded, genuine lad and, comes across well.
Really good to see a young high-profile player taking something like this on and make a difference.
Well done, Marcus.

Re: Marcus Rashford

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 5:25 pm
by Vintage Claret
Well done that man and good to see a young footballer in the news for positive reasons, unlike some ( not mentioning any names Danny D)

Re: Marcus Rashford

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 5:36 pm
by Steve-Harpers-perm
Fantastic stuff and on top of the other charity work he does. It wouldn’t have got to this point if the PM hadn’t only found out about his campaign late today!

Re: Marcus Rashford

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 5:39 pm
by Jimmymaccer
Doesn’t he stay on his feet as well when he sees a white line?

Yep, well done that man.

Re: Marcus Rashford

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 5:44 pm
by Claret Toni
Excellent work by a fine young man.

Not often anyone can get the Government to change its stance, and for it to do so after a 22 year-old makes the case is absolutely outstanding.

Total respect for him and I look forward to welcoming him to the Turf - what he's done is clearly bigger than a football match and I'll put aside my usual tribal hostility for this player.

Re: Marcus Rashford

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 5:46 pm
by ClaretAndJew
Johnson has said he did not know about Rashford's plea.

An absolute load of ********.

Re: Marcus Rashford

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 5:48 pm
by Pstotto
The irony is that his success emphasizes cultural prejudice, in that doors open for cultural celebrities but not for the plebs, as I've found out writing a perfectly reasonable letter to my MP about a very serious fault in civil law, which was rebuffed.

In the very act of helping he has unwittingly reinforced the cultural status quo of prejudice.

We drive all in at 29
To stay within the law
Please save us God
From Satan
Who drives at 34.

Re: Marcus Rashford

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 6:01 pm
by WadingInDeeper
Fair play to him using his position to do what he Has, he comes across so far a the sort of role model you hope your team has.

But, how is 21st century uk got itself into a position where families can't afford to eat.

Re: Marcus Rashford

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 7:17 pm
by Pimlico_Claret
ClaretAndJew wrote:
Tue Jun 16, 2020 5:46 pm
Johnson has said he did not know about Rashford's plea.

An absolute load of ********.
Johnson wouldn't know the truth if it was dressed as a virus and threatened to floor him. Serves him right.

Re: Marcus Rashford

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 7:20 pm
by Pstotto
Tony Blair and 10 million over-capacity on resources, WID.

Whilst Marcus Rashford may be applauded for writing to his MP, if you did it, nothing. if you wrote an open letter, nothing. if your suggestion was taken up by MPs, nothing.

Yet because it's a sports star, it's headline news and front page news even. Marcus Rashford's letter could have been dealt with privately and the positive result could have been anonymous, but no.

As it, is, the media story becomes a 'PC correct' washing of culture as he becomes a pawn of the political spin, again to reinforce the elite and the differentiation between them and the masses.

Re: Marcus Rashford

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 7:37 pm
by Burnley1989
You’ve said the same thing 3 times now, this thread isn’t about you

Re: Marcus Rashford

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 7:41 pm
by TsarBomba
TVC15 wrote:
Tue Jun 16, 2020 1:24 pm
I’ve been into schools in deprived areas of the north west and when you see some of the kids who you know have got big problems at home eat at breakfast clubs you know that they are very hungry and they are not being fed properly at home. It’s especially visible on a Monday morning when they have had a weekend of being deprived of regular meals.

Just terrible. Any kid going hungry is a travesty, but in the 6th largest economy in the world, it’s criminal.

Well done Marcus Rashford. A proper role model.

Re: Marcus Rashford

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 7:51 pm
by Juan Tanamera
pushpinpussy wrote:
Tue Jun 16, 2020 4:09 pm
Excellent free publicity for him. Sponsorship deals on the way I assume
Oh dear!

Re: Marcus Rashford

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 8:01 pm
by Darnhill Claret
Second fav for BBC SPOTY at 13/8 behind Tyson Fury. Wonder what price he was this morning?

Re: Marcus Rashford

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 8:02 pm
by Juan Tanamera
I've wrote on my Facebook page my opinions about Marcus Rashford and what he has done to make this government u-turn with regards to hungry children .
And then we have the trolls on here trying to score brownie points.
Shame on you.

Re: Marcus Rashford

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 8:05 pm
by Long Time Lurker
It's annoying that Rashford had to fight so hard for something that will benefit so many people.

Money for vulnerable kids - not without a fight, billions for new bike routes - definitely.

Says it all really.

Re: Marcus Rashford

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 8:07 pm
by tiger76
Some weird comments on this thread, surely the fact that Marcus Rashford has kept this story in the public eye. is the main reason that the government have been forced to perform a very public u-turn today.

Good to see that the lad hasn't lost his sense of fair play now he's a highly paid footballer, he clearly hasn't forgotten his roots, and tough upbringing, and he doesn't want any other children to suffer if he can help it.

He's also been proactive and raised money for good causes, so yes he deserves all the plaudits he's been getting today, i despair sometimes that good news is treated so cynically.

Re: Marcus Rashford

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 8:14 pm
by Pstotto
Since you've made me the subject of your post 1989, I think you're involved in a bit of political skullduggery to draw attention away from the intellectual content, approved by the usual suspects.

And you were feeling good wern't yer... Wern't yer, though?

And then nasty pstotto spoiled the romance... :-)

You know, a nice feel good story after all the kerfuffle, only for nasty pstotto to add a bit of realism, not that it's a northern trait or anything... :-)

I'm not sure whether it's a Bert or Ernie thread, we'll just have to wait for Waldorf and Statler to turn up and preside.

'Young Marcus, he's turned out a right grand lad asn't he? You know if I had a daughter...' :-)

Re: Marcus Rashford

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 10:20 pm
by Steve1956
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Re: Marcus Rashford

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 10:25 pm
by Inchy
It’s a shame that the rest of the season is behind closed doors because Rashford should receive a standing ovation at every ground he plays at

Re: Marcus Rashford

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 10:41 pm
by Pstotto
Steve, Rashford is playing for Boris.

Re: Marcus Rashford

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 10:53 pm
by Inchy
Pstotto wrote:
Tue Jun 16, 2020 10:41 pm
Steve, Rashford is playing for Boris.


I agree Pstotto


The ravages of incandescent conglomerates are stupendous with inconsistent vertiginous

Can you do some weird art instead?

Re: Marcus Rashford

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 11:01 pm
by CaptainKirk
Had to log in just to say :
Pushpinpussy and Pstotto are a right pair of d***heads.

Re: Marcus Rashford

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 11:06 pm
by tarkys_ears
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/51698150

A record number of footballers, clubs and agents in England are being investigated over tax payments.

HM Revenue & Customs (HMRC) is investigating the tax affairs of 330 footballers, 55 clubs and 80 agents, up from 173 players, 40 clubs and 38 agents in January 2019.

HMRC said it had recovered £396m from the industry since 2015.

The department said it expected "more compliance than previous years" after its "proactive handling of tax risks".

It said it "looked forward to continued co-operation with clubs and players throughout 2020".

HMRC had previously said it was making enquires into "tax risks", including image rights, agents' fees and dual representation - an agent representing both the club and player during a contract or transfer negotiation.

Graph showing taxes recouped from the football industry by HMRC
"We're clear that everyone must pay what they owe under the law - regardless of their wealth or status," the department said.

"HMRC have been investigating players and clubs over image rights for some time," said football finance specialist Kieran Maguire, from the University of Liverpool.

"Image rights are a legitimate means of paying a player for off-field activities.

"Payments are usually made to a separate company set up to manage the rights.

"If HMRC feel that too much of the player's pay has been diverted into this area [on which a player owning their image rights company would be due to pay Corporation Tax at 19%] they may decide that the money should be treated as wages [which would be subject to PAYE tax]."

HMRC is also investigating issues relating to VAT, agents based offshore if there is a suspicion of malpractice and payments to other parties, including when an agent may not receive or keep the entire fee from a player transfer, and instead a number of agents are paid.

Although clubs in England are obliged to send the Football Association details of all payments made to agents, this does not include payments to sub-agents.

HMRC began a dedicated "football compliance project" in 2017. Since then, £65m in tax has been repaid by clubs.

The amounts recouped from players and agents totalled £18m and £7m respectively from 2017-18 to the end of September 2019, the BBC found under the Freedom of Information Act (FOI).

Separate to these inquiries including into image rights and agents' fees, HMRC has pursued winding-up petitions against clubs including Macclesfield Town,Southend United,Birmingham City,Oldham Athletic,Notts County and expelled English Football League club Bury.

The department said its figures for repayments released under FOI did not consider its work "where tax is paid in full or known to be owed and paid late, for example its debt recovery work and court cases".

Graph showing cases investigating clubs, players and agents in each tax year
Dr Rob Wilson, a sport finance specialist at Sheffield Hallam University, said "nine out of 10 times" winding-up petitions followed when clubs were paying players' wages, but withholding National Insurance contributions (NICs) from the taxman to help with their cash flow.

He said winding-up petitions were so HMRC could pursue clubs normally for unpaid NICs.

"It's not uncommon to do that in a small trader business because you tend to pay NICs at the end of the year," Dr Wilson said.

"Because HMRC are down the list of football creditors [if a club were to go into administration] they tend to pursue winding-up petitions to make sure HMRC is paid.

"They are also making a statement to football clubs and the industry to have a deterrent effect.

"It's to say 'we're looking at you, don't do anything that breaches the regulations more broadly'."

Accountancy firm and football business analysts Deloitte's own figures suggested Premier League and English Football League clubs had both, however, been paying an increasing sum of VAT on matchday income and other employment taxes such as National Insurance Contributions and PAYE on wages every year for the past decade.

HMRC was unable to name the clubs, players and agents making repayments because of its duty of confidentiality to not identify any "persons" - the term "person" includes legal entities such as companies, trusts, charities and living individuals - under the Commissioners for Revenue and Customs Act 2005.


If only there were more money going to the Government from certain industries, we could have more money for the kids?

Maybe he can lobby his mates to pay the going rate instead of using every trick in the book to dodge it so they can have £1m cars whilst the kids go hungry?

Re: Marcus Rashford

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 11:11 pm
by tarkys_ears
tarkys_ears wrote:
Tue Jun 16, 2020 11:06 pm

If only there were more money going to the Government from certain industries, we could have more money for the kids?

Maybe he can lobby his mates to pay the going rate instead of using every trick in the book to dodge it so they can have £1m cars whilst the kids go hungry?
That goes for all you on here using IR35, undoubtedly claiming your government handouts whilst paying next to nothing all in the first place.

Re: Marcus Rashford

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 11:25 pm
by tim_noone
CaptainKirk wrote:
Tue Jun 16, 2020 11:01 pm
Had to log in just to say :
Pushpinpussy and Pstotto are a right pair of d***heads.
Comments Which also fall under.....if you've nothing nice to say Don't Bother.

Re: Marcus Rashford

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 11:32 pm
by Steve1956
CaptainKirk wrote:
Tue Jun 16, 2020 11:01 pm
Had to log in just to say :
Pushpinpussy and Pstotto are a right pair of d***heads.
Harsh,but undeniably true :lol:

Re: Marcus Rashford

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 11:36 pm
by tim_noone
Darnhill Claret wrote:
Tue Jun 16, 2020 8:01 pm
Second fav for BBC SPOTY at 13/8 behind Tyson Fury. Wonder what price he was this morning?
Currently 2/1. Tyson Fury is Without Doubt going to Be SPOTY.

Re: Marcus Rashford

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 12:06 am
by CaptainKirk
Comments Which also fall under.....if you've nothing nice to say Don't Bother.

Don't agree with that at all. Anyone who can find fault with M Rashford over this and thinks he is doing it for the publicity is a d***head and deserves naming as such.