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Re: Villa v Blades

Post by Bfcboyo » Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:02 pm

Sky presenters being very pc not wanting to offend hawkeye.

Appeared to be over the line she said.

Bring back Andy Gray I say.

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Re: Villa v Blades

Post by Vegas Claret » Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:02 pm

******* joke
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Re: Villa v Blades

Post by ClaretMov » Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:03 pm

bfcmik wrote:
Wed Jun 17, 2020 6:52 pm
Question mark about whether the WHOLE of the ball had crossed the WHOLE of the line. The majority was certainly behind the post but was ALL of it?
The whole ball was at least 4 inch/ 10 cm over the line

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Re: Villa v Blades

Post by Rileybobs » Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:04 pm

joey13 wrote:
Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:00 pm
VAR can,and should have overruled
Pretty bold call for the VAR to overrule tried and tested technology though. Especially as there was not absolute conclusive evidence that the ball crossed the line.

Edit - the image posted by Vegas is pretty conclusive though.
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Re: Villa v Blades

Post by tiger76 » Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:04 pm

Great start back, blatant penalty claim for Villa denied, and then an obvious goal not awarded for the Blades, thing's can only get better, or can they?.

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Re: Villa v Blades

Post by ClaretMov » Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:05 pm

Don't worry it will be fixed when the big boys play tonight

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Re: Villa v Blades

Post by DCWat » Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:05 pm

Sheff United will be looking to sue again if they miss out on Europe because of that!!
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Re: Villa v Blades

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:06 pm

Its working now.

Queue a dodgy decision against sheff utd :lol:

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Re: Villa v Blades

Post by Rileybobs » Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:07 pm

God, I’ve missed this incompetence.
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Re: Villa v Blades

Post by Bfcboyo » Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:08 pm

Oliver looks guilty as sin. Definitely didn't switch it on .

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Re: Villa v Blades

Post by ClaretMov » Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:09 pm

Quote of the day

Its now working (switched on) and will be used in the second half.......FFS

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Re: Villa v Blades

Post by ksrclaret » Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:10 pm

Absolutely brilliant :lol:

We’re definitely back everyone!! :lol:

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Re: Villa v Blades

Post by ClaretMov » Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:11 pm

Get all your money on Sheff Utd being awarded a penalty, good odds
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Re: Villa v Blades

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:11 pm

DCWat wrote:
Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:05 pm
Sheff United will be looking to sue again if they miss out on Europe because of that!!
We’d have as much money as City if you could sue for **** decisions.
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Re: Villa v Blades

Post by ElectroClaret » Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:13 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:
Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:11 pm
We’d have as much money as City if you could sue for **** decisions.
Ain't that the truth.

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Re: Villa v Blades

Post by Rileybobs » Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:13 pm

Bfcboyo wrote:
Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:08 pm
Oliver looks guilty as sin. Definitely didn't switch it on .
Surely the graphic would have been shown though whether the watch was turned on or not.

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Re: Villa v Blades

Post by Buxtonclaret » Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:15 pm

Henderson is a very good keeper.

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Re: Villa v Blades

Post by Funkydrummer » Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:17 pm

The crowd interaction is a bit behind as someone said.

How hard can it be for someone to press a button with "oo", "arr" or "hooray" or "clap"
on it in time ?
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Re: Villa v Blades

Post by Jimmymaccer » Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:17 pm

Just out if interest whose responsibility is it...........does ref have to say “ Hawkeye.....check” like a plane taking off ....or us it just someone’s (previous) job.....?

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Re: Villa v Blades

Post by joey13 » Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:18 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:04 pm
Pretty bold call for the VAR to overrule tried and tested technology though. Especially as there was not absolute conclusive evidence that the ball crossed the line.

Edit - the image posted by Vegas is pretty conclusive though.
But only works when switched on :lol:

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Re: Villa v Blades

Post by joey13 » Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:19 pm

Funkydrummer wrote:
Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:17 pm
The crowd interaction is a bit behind as someone said.

How hard can it be for someone to press a button with "oo", "arr" or "hooray" or "clap"
on it in time ?
It is Birmingham
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Re: Villa v Blades

Post by IanMcL » Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:19 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Wed Jun 17, 2020 6:56 pm
clearly over the line by at least 2 inches
Keep you willy out of it!

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Re: Villa v Blades

Post by Tall Paul » Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:19 pm

Jimmymaccer wrote:
Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:17 pm
Just out if interest whose responsibility is it...........does ref have to say “ Hawkeye.....check” like a plane taking off ....or us it just someone’s (previous) job.....?
Presumably its automatic and the refs watch vibrates whenever the ball crosses the goal line.

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Re: Villa v Blades

Post by IanMcL » Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:20 pm

TV spoke of VAR. Had forgotten VAR!

Yes - should have been var for sure. Poor officiating.

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Re: Villa v Blades

Post by DCWat » Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:21 pm

What’s more concerning is the blatant reliance on the technology. Goal line technology has been a decent addition but referees should surely be prepared to question the technology, if required.

This wasn’t something I’d have expected Oliver to have missed, pre technology.

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Re: Villa v Blades

Post by IanMcL » Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:24 pm

Ignominy!

Sky just shown shots on target....

Villa 5 SU 0

Erased from history!

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Re: Villa v Blades

Post by Funkydrummer » Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:26 pm

Grealish is a class above. Shame he's a kn0b.

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Re: Villa v Blades

Post by CombatClaret » Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:26 pm

Aguero benched tonight, looks like he starts against us :s

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Re: Villa v Blades

Post by Vegas Claret » Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:26 pm

Funkydrummer wrote:
Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:26 pm
Grealish is a class above. Shame he's a kn0b.
65 mins gone - has he fallen over yet ?

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Re: Villa v Blades

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:27 pm

CombatClaret wrote:
Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:26 pm
Aguero benched tonight, looks like he starts against us :s
But of course. I put him as triple captain in the Fantasy Team.
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Re: Villa v Blades

Post by Rileybobs » Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:27 pm

DCWat wrote:
Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:21 pm
What’s more concerning is the blatant reliance on the technology. Goal line technology has been a decent addition but referees should surely be prepared to question the technology, if required.

This wasn’t something I’d have expected Oliver to have missed, pre technology.
I disagree. Goal line technology was brought in because those decisions were so difficult to call with the naked eye. Oliver couldn’t give that goal considering his position on the pitch when there is technology in place that has been seemingly flawless up to now. Even the replays shown at half time weren’t conclusive due to the ball being in the keepers arms.

The VAR maybe should have intervened but there wasn’t much time to make the call, and overruling tried and tested technology based on inconclusive evidence would be a very big call.
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Re: Villa v Blades

Post by Dyched » Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:28 pm

DCWat wrote:
Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:02 pm
Sorry - see what you mean now :)

To be fair, I suspect that this will have pretty big viewing figures, it being the first game back. Perhaps far more interest in the game than there usually might have been, outside of the fans of each team.
I’m only watching because I haven’t seen football for so long. It’s very different to what I’m used too. But the game hasn’t been too bad tbh. If we were fans of either team, we’d be quite happy at both performances so far.
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Re: Villa v Blades

Post by ElectroClaret » Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:32 pm

Oliver couldn't have seen that for sure from where he was.

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Re: Villa v Blades

Post by Dyched » Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:34 pm

Goal line technologies huge success was the downfall for me. It has worked superbly since it started. Unless Oliver was directly inline with the ball and posts it’d be a huge call to give the goal.

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Re: Villa v Blades

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:34 pm

Oliver couldn’t. The Lino should have seen it.
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Re: Villa v Blades

Post by DCWat » Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:35 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:27 pm
I disagree. Goal line technology was brought in because those decisions were so difficult to call with the naked eye. Oliver couldn’t give that goal considering his position on the pitch when there is technology in place that has been seemingly flawless up to now. Even the replays shown at half time weren’t conclusive due to the ball being in the keepers arms.

The VAR maybe should have intervened but there wasn’t much time to make the call, and overruling tried and tested technology based on inconclusive evidence would be a very big call.
I thought that the replays were very conclusive.

Pre technology, I’d have expected a referee to spot that. It wasn’t exactly a fast moving ball ricocheting off a post.

If referees become too reliant upon technology (accepting your point that to date GLT has been reliable) glitches will cause issues again.

If this was a case of it not being switched on, that’s a joke itself.

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Re: Villa v Blades

Post by Hibsclaret » Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:36 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:27 pm
I disagree. Goal line technology was brought in because those decisions were so difficult to call with the naked eye. Oliver couldn’t give that goal considering his position on the pitch when there is technology in place that has been seemingly flawless up to now. Even the replays shown at half time weren’t conclusive due to the ball being in the keepers arms.

The VAR maybe should have intervened but there wasn’t much time to make the call, and overruling tried and tested technology based on inconclusive evidence would be a very big call.
You are right regarding Oliver not seeing it and why goal line tech was brought in....however to suggest there is inconclusive evidence of a goal. It is the most blatant goal ever using the camera angles available to VAR. It’s an absolute joke that the goal cannot be awarded by VAR as they should be involved in every goal/no goal decision that the ref has missed. Embarrassing tbh

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Re: Villa v Blades

Post by bfcjg » Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:37 pm

The goal line technology was self isolating at home.

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Re: Villa v Blades

Post by boatshed bill » Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:39 pm

Listening to this reminds me of my playing days :D

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Re: Villa v Blades

Post by Leisure » Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:39 pm

ElectroClaret wrote:
Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:32 pm
Oliver couldn't have seen that for sure from where he was.
Linesman/person?

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Re: Villa v Blades

Post by Myk » Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:41 pm

They’ve just announced his watch did vibrate and say “goal” when he got into the dressing room at half time.

Just a bit of lag 🙈

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Re: Villa v Blades

Post by ElectroClaret » Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:41 pm

Leisure wrote:
Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:39 pm
Linesman/person?
Yeah.
And surely he'd have said something.

So everyone's relying on the tech.

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Re: Villa v Blades

Post by HunterST_BFC » Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:42 pm

Grealish is such a fanny
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Re: Villa v Blades

Post by Hibsclaret » Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:42 pm

Tbh it is irrelevant who did or didn’t see it on the pitch. The VAR team know within 30 seconds that it’s a goal and a balls up...yet they do nothing because there is no flexibility in the rules of what they can and can’t judge on.

And yet again we have the outcome of a match affected by the nonsense
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Re: Villa v Blades

Post by Dyched » Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:42 pm

Myk wrote:
Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:41 pm
They’ve just announced his watch did vibrate and say “goal” when he got into the dressing room at half time.

Just a bit of lag 🙈
Only after he took the batteries out of his pocket rocket
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Re: Villa v Blades

Post by Colburn_Claret » Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:44 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:
Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:34 pm
Oliver couldn’t. The Lino should have seen it.
That goal would have been given, before VAR took a hand. A lot of linos have stopped doing their jobs, it's been noticeable all season. Whether it's by request of the ref, or just an over reliance of the technology, who knows. But it's still the same teams that get bit on the arse.

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Re: Villa v Blades

Post by ClaretMov » Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:45 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:27 pm
I disagree. Goal line technology was brought in because those decisions were so difficult to call with the naked eye. Oliver couldn’t give that goal considering his position on the pitch when there is technology in place that has been seemingly flawless up to now. Even the replays shown at half time weren’t conclusive due to the ball being in the keepers arms.

The VAR maybe should have intervened but there wasn’t much time to make the call, and overruling tried and tested technology based on inconclusive evidence would be a very big call.
Really ???? Looks well over to me from the tv replays and even in the keeper's hands its so clear to see
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Re: Villa v Blades

Post by Lowbankclaret » Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:45 pm

I turned it off, I was worried it would be crap, and it was.

Just maybe they tried to add some excitement by making a balls of it all.

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Re: Villa v Blades

Post by ElectroClaret » Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:48 pm

VAR could have decided that in ten seconds, if they had access to that picture.
And of course, they would have.

Terrible stuff.

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Re: Villa v Blades

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:50 pm

DCWat wrote:
Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:21 pm
What’s more concerning is the blatant reliance on the technology. Goal line technology has been a decent addition but referees should surely be prepared to question the technology, if required.

This wasn’t something I’d have expected Oliver to have missed, pre technology.
He couldn’t intervene from where he was positioned.

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