Villa v Blades

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Re: Villa v Blades

Post by martin_p » Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:52 pm

So who’s responsible for making sure the technology works? Is it the referees, Premier League officials or the home team?

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Re: Villa v Blades

Post by Bfcboyo » Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:53 pm

Mcgoldrick spits 90th minute .

Highlight of 2nd half.

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Re: Villa v Blades

Post by IanMcL » Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:55 pm

The aim of the technology is to get things right.

The aim of the prem, is to give Villa a chance!
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Re: Villa v Blades

Post by Pimlico_Claret » Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:58 pm

Wow, excited for that? No thanks.

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Re: Villa v Blades

Post by kritichris » Wed Jun 17, 2020 8:00 pm

Bring back football!

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Re: Villa v Blades

Post by HunterST_BFC » Wed Jun 17, 2020 8:00 pm

I thought the goal line tech was checked each game in the warm up?

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Re: Villa v Blades

Post by ClaretMov » Wed Jun 17, 2020 8:00 pm

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Re: Villa v Blades

Post by Vegas Claret » Wed Jun 17, 2020 8:03 pm

looking at the Arsenal starting line up it could be an absolute walk in the park for City

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Re: Villa v Blades

Post by Leisure » Wed Jun 17, 2020 8:09 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Wed Jun 17, 2020 8:03 pm
looking at the Arsenal starting line up it could be an absolute walk in the park for City
And some fans will probably be saying that next Monday! :lol:

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Hawkeye statement

Post by Vegas Claret » Wed Jun 17, 2020 8:11 pm

ok then
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Re: Villa v Blades

Post by Rileybobs » Wed Jun 17, 2020 8:13 pm

ClaretMov wrote:
Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:45 pm
Really ???? Looks well over to me from the tv replays and even in the keeper's hands its so clear to see
Well that still shot was first posted on here 17 minutes after the goal, up to which point none of the TV replays had shown conclusively that the ball had crossed the line. Clearly there is now evidence, as I said there was on one of my posts above. But in the moments following the goal, and considering the fact that goal line technology has been flawless to date, I think it's understandable why the VAR didn't intervene.

The technology is more accurate than the human eye, unfortunately on this occasion it failed. The VAR had no reason to think that the goal line tech had failed and if they'd stopped the game to fanny around with camera angles they would have come in for a whole load of criticism had the ball not actually crossed the line. Hindsight is fine, but I think it's totally understandable that the on field and off field officials didn't intervene.

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Re: Hawkeye statement

Post by duncandisorderly » Wed Jun 17, 2020 8:16 pm

Oooo! Someone new to sue!

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Re: Hawkeye statement

Post by Rileybobs » Wed Jun 17, 2020 8:16 pm

It certainly was a relatively unique incident, although I'm surprised there haven't been other goalline melees causing similar interference.

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Re: Hawkeye statement

Post by Garnerssoap » Wed Jun 17, 2020 8:17 pm

They could have told the var man footy was starting again tonight

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Re: Hawkeye statement

Post by paulatky » Wed Jun 17, 2020 8:20 pm

Still on furlough. Need to speak to his line manager

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Re: Villa v Blades

Post by Tall Paul » Wed Jun 17, 2020 8:21 pm

Statement from Hawkeye.

Image

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Re: Hawkeye statement

Post by burnmark » Wed Jun 17, 2020 8:22 pm

Funny that seeing as the TV cameras weren’t ‘occluded’.
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Re: Hawkeye statement

Post by FCBurnley » Wed Jun 17, 2020 8:26 pm

That is both shocking and a lie

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Re: Hawkeye statement

Post by Devils_Advocate » Wed Jun 17, 2020 8:26 pm

Reports breaking that Hawkeye was spotted in the vicinity of Barnard Castle earlier in the week 👀👓

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Crowd Noise

Post by FactualFrank » Wed Jun 17, 2020 8:28 pm

Apparently using the Fifa's sound archive from the computer game.

Much much better than without.

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Re: Hawkeye statement

Post by duncandisorderly » Wed Jun 17, 2020 8:29 pm

Birdlivesmatter #BLM

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Re: Villa v Blades

Post by tiger76 » Wed Jun 17, 2020 8:31 pm

HunterST_BFC wrote:
Wed Jun 17, 2020 8:00 pm
I thought the goal line tech was checked each game in the warm up?
Out of all the things they could have mucked up, you'd have thought it wouldn't be the one conclusive piece of technology available, even VAR is still reliant on how the officials interpret each incident on it's merits, but the goal line tech should be the one constant in play.

I'm just trying to imagine the furore if Man City's winner at the turf last season hadn't been allowed, and it was close, the correct call, but a close call, now if that Aguero effort hadn't stood, Liverpool would have been crowned champions and not City, and it's possible that dodgy decision could affect European placings, and the relegation slots.

The PL could have hardly had a worse return, they've had weeks to prepare for the restart, and it's now been made a complete mockery of.

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Re: Hawkeye statement

Post by Funkydrummer » Wed Jun 17, 2020 8:33 pm

Have you ever heard or read such tosh as that ? Complete cop out.

Amateur in the extreme.

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Re: Hawkeye statement

Post by kentonclaret » Wed Jun 17, 2020 8:33 pm

Faulty watch?

Must be a wind up surely? :roll:
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Re: Hawkeye statement

Post by Rileybobs » Wed Jun 17, 2020 8:35 pm

Whilst I could understand a scenario where too many players obscure too many cameras, I'm not sure how they can claim that a goalpost has. Unless the cameras were positioned incorrectly.

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Re: Crowd Noise

Post by DAVETHEVICAR » Wed Jun 17, 2020 8:36 pm

Definitely

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Re: Hawkeye statement

Post by Tribesmen » Wed Jun 17, 2020 8:36 pm

If we all saw it how come they didn't is my question

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Re: Hawkeye statement

Post by kentonclaret » Wed Jun 17, 2020 8:38 pm

The crowd behind the goal missed it as well :lol:

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Re: Crowd Noise

Post by Rileybobs » Wed Jun 17, 2020 8:39 pm

It's really decent. It's not going to be the same as the real thing but if you don't pay too much attention you don't know the difference for the most part. Problem for me is I usually like browsing on my phone etc when the football is on and the crowd noise is a good indicator to lift my head in time to see a chance on goal.

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Re: Crowd Noise

Post by Tribesmen » Wed Jun 17, 2020 8:39 pm

Yer it's naff .

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Re: Crowd Noise

Post by Bin Ont Turf » Wed Jun 17, 2020 8:43 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Wed Jun 17, 2020 8:39 pm
It's really decent. It's not going to be the same as the real thing but if you don't pay too much attention you don't know the difference for the most part. Problem for me is I usually like browsing on my phone etc when the football is on and the crowd noise is a good indicator to lift my head in time to see a chance on goal.

1st world modern problem :)
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Re: Villa v Blades

Post by tiger76 » Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:00 pm

City are looking a bit tasty now they've found their feet, De Bruyne is running the show as you'd expect, thankfully for Arsenal they've not got their shooting boots on yet.

Already 2 injuries to Arsenal players in the opening 25 minutes, now the 5 sub rule might start making sense.

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Re: Villa v Blades

Post by ElectroClaret » Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:05 pm

City 1-0

David Luiz f**k up. :lol:
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Re: Villa v Blades

Post by FactualFrank » Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:06 pm

No idea why my thread about crowd noise was added to hawkeye.

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Re: Crowd Noise

Post by FactualFrank » Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:08 pm

Tribesmen wrote:
Wed Jun 17, 2020 8:39 pm
Yer it's naff .
Much worse without.

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Re: Villa v Blades

Post by tiger76 » Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:10 pm

ElectroClaret wrote:
Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:05 pm
City 1-0

David Luiz f**k up. :lol:
Some things never change :)

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Re: Villa v Blades

Post by NewClaret » Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:25 pm

Xhaka and Mari injures for Arsenal too. Luiz sent off just.

Tonight couldn’t be going much better for us.

Just need injuries to De Bruyne, Sterling, Silva, Mahrez, Jesus, Aguero, etc etc etc now :lol:

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Re: Villa v Blades

Post by martin_p » Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:26 pm

David Luiz back to his very best!

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Re: Villa v Blades

Post by Rileybobs » Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:26 pm

Luiz put in a good shift there.

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Re: Villa v Blades

Post by Dyched » Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:28 pm

I really need to find out who David Luiz agent is. See if he can get me a decent gig somewhere.

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Re: Villa v Blades

Post by ElectroClaret » Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:28 pm

Peno scored, 2-0

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Re: Villa v Blades

Post by Vegas Claret » Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:31 pm

Serious question - has Aubamayang even touched the ball ?

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Re: Villa v Blades

Post by Rileybobs » Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:32 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:25 pm
Xhaka and Mari injures for Arsenal too. Luiz sent off just.

Tonight couldn’t be going much better for us.
I'd have preferred City to have had more of a test before playing us to be honest.
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Re: Villa v Blades

Post by Vino blanco » Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:33 pm

Why do so called big clubs keep paying David Luiz large amounts of money to turn up for them, he has always been garbage? I would love to comment on the incidents in the first match, but I decided to watch Downton Abbey instead.

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Re: Hawkeye statement

Post by claretblue » Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:41 pm

kentonclaret wrote:
Wed Jun 17, 2020 8:33 pm
Faulty watch?
could night one for 4K a few seasons ago! :?

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Re: Villa v Blades

Post by LeadBelly » Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:42 pm

Vino blanco wrote:
Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:33 pm
Why do so called big clubs keep paying David Luiz large amounts of money to turn up for them, he has always been garbage? I would love to comment on the incidents in the first match, but I decided to watch Downton Abbey instead.
When the team he's playing for is on top and he doesnt have to defend too much and can "stroke it about a bit", he looks good. Not a great defender though when his team is under pressure.

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Re: Villa v Blades

Post by tiger76 » Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:48 pm

LeadBelly wrote:
Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:42 pm
When the team he's playing for is on top and he doesnt have to defend too much and can "stroke it about a bit", he looks good. Not a great defender though when his team is under pressure.
Flakier than a chocolate bar, he'd give me kittens if a was an Arsenal fan, i'll bet their fans will be glad to see the back of him.

I'm intrigued which other mugs offer him crazy wages, thinking they've got a free agent bargain.

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Re: Villa v Blades

Post by Buxtonclaret » Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:49 pm

Doing a good job, Arsenal.
Lulling Citeh nicely.
They'll think it's easy.
But not know what's hit 'em until its too late when we unleash the Vid on them. 8-)

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Re: Villa v Blades

Post by NewClaret » Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:52 pm

Amazed how good this crowd noise is. Occasionally forgetting the ground is empty!
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Re: Villa v Blades

Post by DCWat » Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:52 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:50 pm
He couldn’t intervene from where he was positioned.
That would have been pretty blatant from the stands, let alone as near as the referee and presumably his assistant were, so I’m not sure I agree with this.

I’m not convinced the referee’s view was entirely obscured and although I’ve not seen his positioning, what about the linesman and his ability to communicate with the referee?

Perhaps more importantly though, the referees performing VAR duties will surely have seen that it should have been a goal - it may not have been a VAR decision - but it would have made perfect sense for the referee to take advice in such an instance.

Failure of one piece of technology is a very poor excuse when there were two officials near by and a secondary system that could have quickly proved conclusively one way or the other.

If rules don’t allow this, that should be looked at to ensure such instances don’t happen again and really, in this day and age the technologies deployed should complement one another and always be able to be viewed by the referee.

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