FA Cup 3rd Round results 1952

[ClaretTony]

I saw this yesterday. It's a bit of a special one for me with these games being played on the day I was born.

Amazing attendance at Burnley but look at the monetary gate receipts. Also a very good result showing at the top right.

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[gtclaret]

Those at tendencies, 40k at Liverpool, no surprise these days, but I don't think they were a first division side then, and 38k at Turf, can you imagine the attendance now against Hartlepool, probably 38 people

[gtclaret]

Attendencies not tendencies

[groove]

Phenomenal attendances. Doesn't appear to be many non-league clubs made it through to this round. I can only see Buxton and Stockton.

[Buxtonclaret]

Heck.
19k plus watching the Bucks at Doncaster.
Some big gates on show.
22k for Rotherham & Bury!

Also noticeable the Manchester gates before the Red bit became a media built institution.

[huw.Y.WattfromWare]

Phenomenal attendances. Doesn't appear to be many non-league clubs made it through to this round. I can only see Buxton and Stockton.

I was working in Stockton in ‘72 and can’t remember them having a team then. I’ll have to check them out.

[mdd2]

You didn't miss much Tony. Full squad out too against a mediocre Third Division North team and then we went out in a later round to a second division outfit-don't mention the team. This MB would have been in melt down.

[ten bellies]

Man City crowd much bigger than Utd.

[LS7]

Also interesting is that ‘Bradford’ = Bradford Park Avenue

[ClaretTony]

Also interesting is that ‘Bradford’ = Bradford Park Avenue

In my early days of watching football there were the two clubs Bradford and Bradford City - when I refer to the current league club in any articles or reports I always add the City to differentiate. Bradford's full name is Bradford (Park Avenue) with the brackets included again from the beginning of this season.

[ClaretTony]

I was working in Stockton in ‘72 and can’t remember them having a team then. I’ll have to check them out.

I've just done some searching - the club were dissolved in 1975 having played at Victoria Ground in Stockton-on-Tees

[groove]

In my early days of watching football there were the two clubs Bradford and Bradford City - when I refer to the current league club in any articles or reports I always add the City to differentiate. Bradford's full name is Bradford (Park Avenue) with the brackets included again from the beginning of this season.

I always believed their full name was just Bradford. The Park Avenue was an unofficial name used to differentiate them between city. Park Avenue was the name of the ground/area they played at.

[Silkyskills1]

Seems to pan out for receipts of £1000 for every 10,000 attendees. Around 2shillings(10p) per person. I've seen receipts for a.few years later when I first started attending and I don't think they were that much different then so cost of football must have remained pretty static over quite a number of years.

[ClaretTony]

I always believed their full name was just Bradford. The Park Avenue was an unofficial name used to differentiate them between city. Park Avenue was the name of the ground/area they played at.

Spot on

Just found this: Although officially Bradford Football Club, the club was obliged to append Park Avenue (the location of the club's original stadium) in brackets to its name in 1907 to avoid confusion with Bradford City. That sort of disappeared over the years but, as per my previous post, they re-added it last year.

[longsidetrumpet]

The club has always been referred to as ‘Avenue’ by anybody in the Bradford area

[Rowls]

Man City crowd much bigger than Utd.

Yes but the two are connected. Many would have chosen that game over the one down the road on the day.

[huw.Y.WattfromWare]

I've just done some searching - the club were dissolved in 1975 having played at Victoria Ground in Stockton-on-Tees

Thanks, they must have been very small cheese by then.

[Marney&Mee]

Is that Don Revie at Man City ?

Gerrie Harrison scored for Hull. He'd aged well by the time he came to us

[claretfern]

Is that Don Revie at Man City ?

Yes. Played in the 1955 & 1956 finals for City as a deep lying Centre Forward. Considered as a 'new' tactic in the day.

[ten bellies]

Yes but the two are connected. Many would have chosen that game over the one down the road on the day.

Less partisan supporters around.

[ClaretTony]

Is that Don Revie at Man City ?

Gerrie Harrison scored for Hull. He'd aged well by the time he came to us

Will be him, Don Revie played for City. I’d spotted the Gerrie Harrison.

[mdd2]

It was the so called Revie plan in 1956 that played a part in their cup victory against Birmingham City
He played a deep lying centre forward role

[winsomeyen]

I noticed the guy who scored for Sheffield Wednesday is Derek Dooley who later in his career lost a leg (allegedly) as a result of the lime mixture used to mark the touchline getting in a laceration on his leg.

[Quicknick]

Bradford 2 Sheff Wed 1. Which Bradford, City or Park Avenue?

[mdd2]

I noticed the guy who scored for Sheffield Wednesday is Derek Dooley who later in his career lost a leg (allegedly) as a result of the lime mixture used to mark the touchline getting in a laceration on his leg.

It was more than a laceration. It was a fracture complicated by gangrene I believe when he was 23. He died in 2008 aged 78
I think he was playing at Deepdale when it happened. Went on to manage and Wednesday and then later in his life was Sheffield United's chairman.

[ClaretTony]

It was more than a laceration. It was a fracture complicated by gangrene I believe when he was 23. He died in 2008 aged 78
I think he was playing at Deepdale when it happened. Went on to manage and Wednesday and then later in his life was Sheffield United's chairman.

Derek Dooley did manager Sheffield Wednesday, the only club he played for. He was a 100% Wednesdayite but they sacked him as manager on Christmas Eve. Sheffield United took him on in an administrative role and he eventually became chairman. It is Bramall Lane where you will see Dooley's statue, not Hillsborough.



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[CleggHall]

Difficult to believe attendance of 24,000, Rochdale v Leeds, no way so many could congregate on the mud flats at Spotland!?

[ClaretTony]

One name I’ve just spotted among the goalscorers is Tommy Lawton for Notts County

[CleggHall]

Other notable goalscorers Wilf Mannion, Middlesbrough and Peter Broadbent, Wolves - both very skilful players.

[Silkyskills1]

I'm thinking the 'deep lying centre forward' idea probably came as a result of the famous Magyars side of the 50's. Hungary defeated England at Wembley 6-3 and a year later in their homeland 7-1 with Nandor Hidgekuti playing the deep lying No9 for them. England's defence didn't know how to cope without a traditional centre forward up against them. Mind you they had a few quality players around to carry out the tactic.
It may have been given the title of 'Revie plan' but I'm very reluctant to accept anything football wise associated with him.

[Silkyskills1]

Other goalscorers to note were Terry Medwin for Swansea(went on to join Spurs?) and would that be Frank O'Farrell for West Ham who went on to manage Man Utd.(George Best) in the early 70's?

[ClaretTony]

Other goalscorers to note were Terry Medwin for Swansea(went on to join Spurs?) and would that be Frank O'Farrell for West Ham who went on to manage Man Utd.(George Best) in the early 70's?

It is Frank O'Farrell

[bfcmik]

Man City crowd much bigger than Utd.

Old Trafford was still being rebuilt at the time

[claretburns]

Couple of highlights below from the round.

Newcastle 4-2 Aston Villa - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQmhoqJSaqI
Portsmouth 4-0 Lincoln - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9FrERY38qw

Leeds met Bradford Park Avenue in the 4th round that year, would have been a bumper attendance I can imagine but cannot find it.

[ClaretTony]

We played four FA Cup ties that season, the aggregate attendance was 186,235

[Silkyskills1]

We played four FA Cup ties that season, the aggregate attendance was 186,235

When it meant something. Incredible number of spectators. Wonder how many ties we have played recently to reach that total.

[ClaretTony]

When it meant something. Incredible number of spectators. Wonder how many ties we have played recently to reach that total.

You'll be surprised that we only have to go back to the 3rd round game at Sunderland in 2017. A total of nine games with an aggregate attendance of 195,269. That's helped though with two trips to the Etihad with a total of 106,477 at those two games.

[ten bellies]

Old Trafford was still being rebuilt at the time

I was wondering whether City were better supported at the time, pre Busby babes. I knew Utd played at Maine Rd for a while after Old Trafford being damaged.