Injuries hit Clarets for opener
-
- Posts: 5356
- Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 9:00 pm
- Been Liked: 1649 times
- Has Liked: 402 times
Re: Injuries hit Clarets for opener
I’m going to break a habit now and say I’m not keen on us being in Europe next season due to the risk of Covid (airports, hotels etc) affecting the squad and ruling players out of Premier League games. Plus the fans wouldn’t be likely to go and watch either.
I’m also going to break another habit and defend Garlick for his penny pinching. We don’t know yet if we will reenter lockdown, and the broadcasters have a legitimate grievance. Clubs may go bust. Now isn’t the time to be spending money. If I was a player I’d be grabbing a contract offer with both hands, this could be the bubble bursting, but it would not surprise me if offers were scarce.
Factor all that in, and I suspect our last 9 games will be half hearted, even with prize money at stake. Dyche is too clever not to know all this, and he isn’t picking a good time to be sending “messages” through the media, it isn’t a good look when fans aren’t able to go to matches and many, unlike him, have no income due to Covid. Manager and players should be going all out to cheer us all up.
I’m also going to break another habit and defend Garlick for his penny pinching. We don’t know yet if we will reenter lockdown, and the broadcasters have a legitimate grievance. Clubs may go bust. Now isn’t the time to be spending money. If I was a player I’d be grabbing a contract offer with both hands, this could be the bubble bursting, but it would not surprise me if offers were scarce.
Factor all that in, and I suspect our last 9 games will be half hearted, even with prize money at stake. Dyche is too clever not to know all this, and he isn’t picking a good time to be sending “messages” through the media, it isn’t a good look when fans aren’t able to go to matches and many, unlike him, have no income due to Covid. Manager and players should be going all out to cheer us all up.
This user liked this post: summitclaret
Re: Mr Garlick versus Mighty Sean
Correct, any player in the last 6 months of their contract can reach agreement with a new club for their next contract. It smacks of trying to see who offers the best package for Jeff & taking it to the wire, with BFC as a back up, just in case, But maybe the initial offer to him has been downgraded in the light of Covid, this could be irking SD especially if MG has indicated a rethink or pause on contract terms for other players till he knows our income streams for next season.claretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 19, 2020 11:46 amHe could have both feet in the door, he could have signed for them in January, both him and Celtic could have announced it and nobody would have done any wrong. Why has he not signed this deal he has agreed ?
-
- Posts: 2596
- Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 10:18 pm
- Been Liked: 674 times
- Has Liked: 244 times
Re: Mr Garlick versus Mighty Sean
Only internationally. You cannot agree a pre-contract with a domestic club.rob63 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 19, 2020 10:22 pmCorrect, any player in the last 6 months of their contract can reach agreement with a new club for their next contract. It smacks of trying to see who offers the best package for Jeff & taking it to the wire, with BFC as a back up, just in case, But maybe the initial offer to him has been downgraded in the light of Covid, this could be irking SD especially if MG has indicated a rethink or pause on contract terms for other players till he knows our income streams for next season.
-
- Posts: 1845
- Joined: Sat May 26, 2018 7:16 pm
- Been Liked: 562 times
- Has Liked: 1411 times
Re: Mr Garlick versus Mighty Sean
If you're a professional footballer, at whatever level, this is a very bad summer to be out of contract; I suspect that many who spurned 'unacceptable' offers back in January are probably now thinking that in hindsight they look a whole lot better.
This user liked this post: rob63
Re: Mr Garlick versus Mighty Sean
Yes but last time i checked Roma, Milan & Celtic didn't play in the English leaguesJakubs Tash wrote: ↑Fri Jun 19, 2020 10:38 pmOnly internationally. You cannot agree a pre-contract with a domestic club.
-
- Posts: 3891
- Joined: Sat May 21, 2016 12:57 pm
- Been Liked: 1282 times
- Has Liked: 681 times
Re: Mr Garlick versus Mighty Sean
And this is the massive problem facing Mike Garlick and one which Sean Dyche will have to come to understand. Garlick doesn't even know the Income levels for this season never mind next season. Ten weeks ago he was priming everyone for the season being curtailed at the beginning of April and Burnley completely running out of money by August.rob63 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 19, 2020 10:22 pmCorrect, any player in the last 6 months of their contract can reach agreement with a new club for their next contract. It smacks of trying to see who offers the best package for Jeff & taking it to the wire, with BFC as a back up, just in case, But maybe the initial offer to him has been downgraded in the light of Covid, this could be irking SD especially if MG has indicated a rethink or pause on contract terms for other players till he knows our income streams for next season.
Next season is financially a long way away and the Board will need to be ultra careful with ANY contract negotiations in the meantime.
This user liked this post: rob63
Re: Injuries hit Clarets for opener
Certain footballers, managers and their agents are so thick that they assume that if they shout and scream enough the world will still owe them a living .They are in for a rude awakening . Roof overhead, food for family, utility bills etc etc will be the priority for us all, players and managers dreams and egos bottom of pile for most.
-
- Posts: 13490
- Joined: Tue Dec 31, 2019 9:51 am
- Been Liked: 3107 times
- Has Liked: 3826 times
Re: Mr Garlick versus Mighty Sean
Totally agree. Tbf to MG, maybe he knows this and is calling a few agents bluff, but it’s a risky business given the depth of our squad and the remaining games we have to play.AfloatinClaret wrote: ↑Fri Jun 19, 2020 10:42 pmIf you're a professional footballer, at whatever level, this is a very bad summer to be out of contract; I suspect that many who spurned 'unacceptable' offers back in January are probably now thinking that in hindsight they look a whole lot better.
-
- Posts: 30699
- Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2016 4:00 am
- Been Liked: 11050 times
- Has Liked: 5658 times
- Location: clue is in the title
Re: Injuries hit Clarets for opener
absolute perfect opportunity to give Brownhill a run and anyone of the U23's they think could be knocking on the door, we won't be splashing the cash in summer so it might be worth seeing what we have coming through the ranks. As long as we stay up I'm not arsed
Also, pretty clear most of you don't watch many Dyche interviews - he has had a pop at the board loads of times before and it's always along the lines of him saying he doesn't know the situation - happens every transfer window. Saddened to read CT's comments about the relationship between the Chairman and Dyche not being good though
Also, pretty clear most of you don't watch many Dyche interviews - he has had a pop at the board loads of times before and it's always along the lines of him saying he doesn't know the situation - happens every transfer window. Saddened to read CT's comments about the relationship between the Chairman and Dyche not being good though
-
- Posts: 5726
- Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 9:13 am
- Been Liked: 2833 times
- Has Liked: 141 times
Re: Injuries hit Clarets for opener
There are two sides to this, and we inevitably hear more from Dyche because press conferences give him a platform.
It wouldn't be a surprise if the manager /chairman relationship was fraying. By the time next season kicks off, he will have been at Burnley nearly 8 years. That's longer than anyone since Harry Potts and given the nature of our tightrope act that is keeping Burnley competitive at this level, there will have been clashes. That will have been exacerbated by the fact that Dyche is so fastidious about what players he will sign, whilst Garlick is equally fastidious about what he will pay. That has made recruitment tortuous for both in the last couple of seasons.
As for these contracts, it's a bit of a microcosm. Hendrick we know has been offered a longer deal before - he just hasn't signed it. The other 4 frankly most people would have expected to see released this summer and in any event it's never as simple as "just" offering a contact. Dyche may well have wanted to tie Bardsley down longer - but he might want a 2 year deal where we (Garlick) might only be willing to grant one. That's the sort of dilemma that exists at any club.
And the truth is this dilemmas get more acute the closer you get to the end of a manager's natural cycle. Dyche is quite understandably looking at an extremely short horizon. Garlick cant afford to be so short-term. He had to look at both the long term financial consequences- particularly given everything else that is going on- and the continuity of the club. Sooner rather than later Dyche is going to leave and Garlick has to have an eye on ensuring the rebuilding job hasn't been made more difficult by short termism to suit the current manager now.
If this is what's going on, then perhaps it's no great surprise, and not necessarily anyone's fault.
It wouldn't be a surprise if the manager /chairman relationship was fraying. By the time next season kicks off, he will have been at Burnley nearly 8 years. That's longer than anyone since Harry Potts and given the nature of our tightrope act that is keeping Burnley competitive at this level, there will have been clashes. That will have been exacerbated by the fact that Dyche is so fastidious about what players he will sign, whilst Garlick is equally fastidious about what he will pay. That has made recruitment tortuous for both in the last couple of seasons.
As for these contracts, it's a bit of a microcosm. Hendrick we know has been offered a longer deal before - he just hasn't signed it. The other 4 frankly most people would have expected to see released this summer and in any event it's never as simple as "just" offering a contact. Dyche may well have wanted to tie Bardsley down longer - but he might want a 2 year deal where we (Garlick) might only be willing to grant one. That's the sort of dilemma that exists at any club.
And the truth is this dilemmas get more acute the closer you get to the end of a manager's natural cycle. Dyche is quite understandably looking at an extremely short horizon. Garlick cant afford to be so short-term. He had to look at both the long term financial consequences- particularly given everything else that is going on- and the continuity of the club. Sooner rather than later Dyche is going to leave and Garlick has to have an eye on ensuring the rebuilding job hasn't been made more difficult by short termism to suit the current manager now.
If this is what's going on, then perhaps it's no great surprise, and not necessarily anyone's fault.
These 2 users liked this post: CleggHall rob63
-
- Posts: 2596
- Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 10:18 pm
- Been Liked: 674 times
- Has Liked: 244 times
Re: Mr Garlick versus Mighty Sean
This is correct but you weren't very clear that meant international teams in your original post. This is something that many people get wrong so I was just helping to give clarity.
Re: Mr Garlick versus Mighty Sean
Or the other way, clubs might have the money to go after their summer targets so will go after out of contract players instead. In Jeffs case he will probably attract the kind of clubs who ain’t gonna have huge transfer budgets in terms of fees. It could work out in his favour.AfloatinClaret wrote: ↑Fri Jun 19, 2020 10:42 pmIf you're a professional footballer, at whatever level, this is a very bad summer to be out of contract; I suspect that many who spurned 'unacceptable' offers back in January are probably now thinking that in hindsight they look a whole lot better.
Re: Injuries hit Clarets for opener
One thing we must do, despite how much we may like and respect Dyche is to back Garlick. We saw when Coyle left the club was torn apart and the fans never for a second gave Laws a chance. Partly down to a bad appointment but you have to back the manager. We gave Dyche time when things looked pretty bleak for a while.
Personally I’d go for Big Sam. Fans won’t like whoever takes over and will give them dogs abuse. We might as well have a guy that will stand there and take it whilst keeping us up. He’d also talk back a bit as well which some fans will need.
Personally I’d go for Big Sam. Fans won’t like whoever takes over and will give them dogs abuse. We might as well have a guy that will stand there and take it whilst keeping us up. He’d also talk back a bit as well which some fans will need.
-
- Posts: 3233
- Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 9:36 am
- Been Liked: 1768 times
- Has Liked: 41 times
Dyche’s Comments About Contracts
He doesn’t seem happy!
Is this the beginning of the end?
Is this the beginning of the end?
-
- Posts: 6904
- Joined: Mon Mar 07, 2016 5:04 pm
- Been Liked: 2758 times
- Has Liked: 4325 times
Re: Dyche’s Comments About Contracts
Comments....what comments ?
-
- Posts: 3233
- Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 9:36 am
- Been Liked: 1768 times
- Has Liked: 41 times
Re: Dyche’s Comments About Contracts
The ones widely reported in the local media.
-
- Posts: 2596
- Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 10:18 pm
- Been Liked: 674 times
- Has Liked: 244 times
Re: Injuries hit Clarets for opener
Allardyce wouldn't go to a club that doesn't have money to spend.
Re: Dyche’s Comments About Contracts
Can we not merge this with the other one.
Re: Dyche’s Comments About Contracts
This is a censored issue on here!
Despite it being a national press conference and available to watch on the club channel, the obvious manager disquiet, with his chairman, is no go on here. A very good debate was eliminated after many posts.
Consensus being that unless the chairman gets himself out of the contract hole, Mr D will be walking come season's end....having personally reflected, in the covid lockdown.
Despite it being a national press conference and available to watch on the club channel, the obvious manager disquiet, with his chairman, is no go on here. A very good debate was eliminated after many posts.
Consensus being that unless the chairman gets himself out of the contract hole, Mr D will be walking come season's end....having personally reflected, in the covid lockdown.
-
- Posts: 3233
- Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 9:36 am
- Been Liked: 1768 times
- Has Liked: 41 times
Re: Dyche’s Comments About Contracts
Sorry didn’t know there were other threads.
I can’t see anything. Have they been deleted?
I can’t see anything. Have they been deleted?
Re: Dyche’s Comments About Contracts
That's not the one!
Re: Injuries hit Clarets for opener
My Guess if he does leave and Cheltenham get promoted he will offer the job to Micheal Duff.
They will look at it as someone who knows the club and will continue in similar vein
They will look at it as someone who knows the club and will continue in similar vein
-
- Posts: 3922
- Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 12:39 pm
- Been Liked: 834 times
- Has Liked: 1331 times
- Location: burnley
Re: Dyche’s Comments About Contracts
Now that more of us are backing the Club for being cautious at least until the end of this season, maybe the people asking for deletion have acted in haste?
Re: Injuries hit Clarets for opener
Probably not. Far from everyones cup of tea anyway. I just think. Given what the atmosphere will be like, he’s one man who would love it and he’d get wins to rub it in that he’s doing a good job, kinda way. If that makes sense. Most managers would cripple.Jakubs Tash wrote: ↑Sat Jun 20, 2020 9:50 amAllardyce wouldn't go to a club that doesn't have money to spend.
I’d take Duff if we were mid table Championship, but not mid table PL. I’d wait personally until after the next man goes.
Re: Dyche’s Comments About Contracts
Dyche will end up at Villa when they sack Dean Smith. Even if they get relegated that job may be tempting, given the club now has decent financial backing and should make a swift return back to the Premier League. Dyche would back himself to get them promoted having already done it twice with us. If Dyche goes then I think next year will be our last in the top flight.
Re: Dyche’s Comments About Contracts
Cannot disagree with that provided 39 points will be enough this season. With all that public airing I just worry about the team spirit now as well as the "home" advantage with an empty Turf.kaptin1 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 20, 2020 10:19 amDyche will end up at Villa when they sack Dean Smith. Even if they get relegated that job may be tempting, given the club now has decent financial backing and should make a swift return back to the Premier League. Dyche would back himself to get them promoted having already done it twice with us. If Dyche goes then I think next year will be our last in the top flight.
-
- Posts: 2743
- Joined: Fri Jan 29, 2016 2:31 pm
- Been Liked: 667 times
- Has Liked: 2053 times
Re: Injuries hit Clarets for opener
Will be interesting to see how clubs outside the Champions League regulars approach their transfer and contract business this summer and how their approach differs or is the same as ours
Re: Dyche’s Comments About Contracts
I suspect if Dyche goes to Villa he'll be expected to get promotion immediately. Otherwise he'll be applying for the sames jobs as David Moyes, Tony Pulis, Big Sam, Mark Hughes, Nigel Pearson, etc., etc.,kaptin1 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 20, 2020 10:19 amDyche will end up at Villa when they sack Dean Smith. Even if they get relegated that job may be tempting, given the club now has decent financial backing and should make a swift return back to the Premier League. Dyche would back himself to get them promoted having already done it twice with us. If Dyche goes then I think next year will be our last in the top flight.
-
- Posts: 388
- Joined: Sat Jan 30, 2016 10:47 pm
- Been Liked: 107 times
- Has Liked: 33 times
Re: Injuries hit Clarets for opener
Possibly this halcyon era of Dyche is coming to an end.
Clarets version of “The last dance”
Clarets version of “The last dance”
Re: Injuries hit Clarets for opener
Reminds me a bit of Fergie's last year or two at United. He'd stopped thinking about the future, all he was interested in was winning the title back before he retired. Moves like bringing Paul Scholes out of retirement for 6 months which meant the midfield problem just got passed onto the next manager coming in.claretspice wrote: ↑Sat Jun 20, 2020 8:59 amThere are two sides to this, and we inevitably hear more from Dyche because press conferences give him a platform.
It wouldn't be a surprise if the manager /chairman relationship was fraying. By the time next season kicks off, he will have been at Burnley nearly 8 years. That's longer than anyone since Harry Potts and given the nature of our tightrope act that is keeping Burnley competitive at this level, there will have been clashes. That will have been exacerbated by the fact that Dyche is so fastidious about what players he will sign, whilst Garlick is equally fastidious about what he will pay. That has made recruitment tortuous for both in the last couple of seasons.
As for these contracts, it's a bit of a microcosm. Hendrick we know has been offered a longer deal before - he just hasn't signed it. The other 4 frankly most people would have expected to see released this summer and in any event it's never as simple as "just" offering a contact. Dyche may well have wanted to tie Bardsley down longer - but he might want a 2 year deal where we (Garlick) might only be willing to grant one. That's the sort of dilemma that exists at any club.
And the truth is this dilemmas get more acute the closer you get to the end of a manager's natural cycle. Dyche is quite understandably looking at an extremely short horizon. Garlick cant afford to be so short-term. He had to look at both the long term financial consequences- particularly given everything else that is going on- and the continuity of the club. Sooner rather than later Dyche is going to leave and Garlick has to have an eye on ensuring the rebuilding job hasn't been made more difficult by short termism to suit the current manager now.
If this is what's going on, then perhaps it's no great surprise, and not necessarily anyone's fault.
-
- Posts: 67869
- Joined: Thu Dec 24, 2015 3:07 pm
- Been Liked: 32530 times
- Has Liked: 5276 times
- Location: Burnley
- Contact:
Re: Injuries hit Clarets for opener
I've been thinking that for a while but it has built up even more recently. Really do hope I'm wrong though.Ilkley claret wrote: ↑Sat Jun 20, 2020 10:40 amPossibly this halcyon era of Dyche is coming to an end.
Clarets version of “The last dance”
Re: Injuries hit Clarets for opener
You need to have this ready (posted elsewhere)
Sean Dyche October 2012-July 2020 or maybe August 2020!!!!
Sean Dyche October 2012-July 2020 or maybe August 2020!!!!
-
- Posts: 12369
- Joined: Sun Oct 30, 2016 2:43 pm
- Been Liked: 5209 times
- Has Liked: 921 times
Re: Injuries hit Clarets for opener
Dyche should be able to live of this success for the rest of his managerial career getting decent Championship jobs and the odd Premier League job here and there but I doubt he'll do owt special ever again
When all is said and done his career will probably rank alongside people like Bruce and Hughton which is pretty respectable for lower division lump of a defender
When all is said and done his career will probably rank alongside people like Bruce and Hughton which is pretty respectable for lower division lump of a defender
Re: Injuries hit Clarets for opener
If Dyche does leave at least the board has a good track record of appointing managers who can get clubs promoted to the Prem. Three out of the last four managers.
Coyle - Burnley
Howe - Bournemouth
Dyche - Burnley
How many other clubs can boast about such a good recruitment record?
Coyle - Burnley
Howe - Bournemouth
Dyche - Burnley
How many other clubs can boast about such a good recruitment record?
-
- Posts: 4069
- Joined: Sun Mar 20, 2016 9:40 pm
- Been Liked: 1507 times
- Has Liked: 580 times
Re: Injuries hit Clarets for opener
He’d be insane to leave now. The amount of uncertainty everywhere is unprecedented and when you look at viable clubs he can go to, the list is limited to say the least. Villa maybe most likely but their lot were gassing on about how much of a dinosaur Dyche is. Plus, their ownership would probably want more of a ‘glamour’ name. I think he’s just sounding off and, while frustrated, he’d do well to stick around in a job of stability where he is rewarded handsomely.
This user liked this post: AfloatinClaret
Re: Injuries hit Clarets for opener
Maybe the board know he is going and want to save money for a new manager who might not fancy having older players on rushed longer contracts . Remember one of Garlicks businesses is recruitment, he's no mug in that department.
Re: Injuries hit Clarets for opener
ClaretTony wrote: ↑Sat Jun 20, 2020 10:42 amI've been thinking that for a while but it has built up even more recently. Really do hope I'm wrong though.
It must come to a head eventually if indeed things are building up. The chairman isnt saying much about the situation, you may say he's within his rights not too but it would be good to know what's going on.
Hopefully a story about nothing.
-
- Posts: 4546
- Joined: Mon Jan 04, 2016 11:03 am
- Been Liked: 2603 times
- Has Liked: 763 times
Re: Injuries hit Clarets for opener
We'll lose a lot more than just the manager if he goes. It'll be a big rebuilding job with likely an entirely new management team. The important thing would be to look long term.
Re: Injuries hit Clarets for opener
I think the biggest problem could be the dressing room which was a problem for Laws and to a lesser extent for Howe whose job it was to see the back of many of OC's players. This may be the same when SD goes more so if he goes with the players feeling he was treated harshly, however in reality the parting of minds wasquoonbeatz wrote: ↑Sat Jun 20, 2020 11:16 amWe'll lose a lot more than just the manager if he goes. It'll be a big rebuilding job with likely an entirely new management team. The important thing would be to look long term.
-
- Posts: 3393
- Joined: Fri May 08, 2020 7:04 pm
- Been Liked: 1004 times
- Has Liked: 905 times
Re: Injuries hit Clarets for opener
This mornings D Mail lining us up Lowton behind Brownhill on Monday. Are they guessing or have they had the nod.
Re: Injuries hit Clarets for opener
If neither Bardsley nor Hendrick have been offered acceptable terms and know they'll be off on 1st July, you can't blame them for not wanting to play really. They simply can't afford an injury that could jeopardise a contract elsewhere.huw.Y.WattfromWare wrote: ↑Sat Jun 20, 2020 12:19 pmThis mornings D Mail lining us up Lowton behind Brownhill on Monday. Are they guessing or have they had the nod.
-
- Posts: 25697
- Joined: Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:43 pm
- Been Liked: 4644 times
- Has Liked: 9849 times
- Location: Glasgow
Re: Injuries hit Clarets for opener
If Sean does go, then the last name on my list would be Allardyce, he'd bankrupt the club within a year, and then disappear into the ether, leaving us with an even bigger rebuilding job.quoonbeatz wrote: ↑Sat Jun 20, 2020 11:16 amWe'll lose a lot more than just the manager if he goes. It'll be a big rebuilding job with likely an entirely new management team. The important thing would be to look long term.
We need to think long-term i agree, the problem is that when Coyle, Howe, and latterly Dyche were appointed, we were a mid-table Championship club, and now given all the success we've enjoyed in the last few years, the expectations rightly or wrongly have increased, whoever follows Sean has got a tough ask on their hands.
That's possibly why the likes of Alexander, Barton, Duff, McGreal are being touted as natural successors to Sean, i wouldn't be against one of that quartet being handed the reins in time, but ideally 2-3 years down the line, when they've all cut their teeth in the lower leagues first.
It does highlight how much of a blow it would be losing SD, there's not an obvious replacement waiting in the wings, plus your probably correct that the rest of the management team would follow the main man, that's pretty standard in this day and age.
This user liked this post: Zlatan
Re: Injuries hit Clarets for opener
One thing no-one seems to have factored in is the salary SD is currently on. He's supposed to one of the better paid managers in the Prem and in case anyone hadn't noticed, there is going to less money in the game in the coming months. TV rights won't be as lucrative and as such any player and manager won't be able to negotiate better deals.
As such, even Dyche certainly won't be offered a better deal elsewhere in the coming months.
As such, even Dyche certainly won't be offered a better deal elsewhere in the coming months.
-
- Posts: 4069
- Joined: Sun Mar 20, 2016 9:40 pm
- Been Liked: 1507 times
- Has Liked: 580 times
Re: Injuries hit Clarets for opener
Yep, mentioned his salary above. It’s significant and another reason I think this is a whole load of hot air.Spijed wrote: ↑Sat Jun 20, 2020 1:17 pmOne thing no-one seems to have factored in is the salary SD is currently on. He's supposed to one of the better paid managers in the Prem and in case anyone hadn't noticed, there is going to less money in the game in the coming months. TV rights won't be as lucrative and as such any player and manager won't be able to negotiate better deals.
As such, even Dyche certainly won't be offered a better deal elsewhere in the coming months.
Re: Injuries hit Clarets for opener
Neither of the managers you have mentioned warrant even an interview. Done nothing to deserve a shot at a Premier League job.tiger76 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 20, 2020 1:03 pmIf Sean does go, then the last name on my list would be Allardyce, he'd bankrupt the club within a year, and then disappear into the ether, leaving us with an even bigger rebuilding job.
We need to think long-term i agree, the problem is that when Coyle, Howe, and latterly Dyche were appointed, we were a mid-table Championship club, and now given all the success we've enjoyed in the last few years, the expectations rightly or wrongly have increased, whoever follows Sean has got a tough ask on their hands.
That's possibly why the likes of Alexander, Barton, Duff, McGreal are being touted as natural successors to Sean, i wouldn't be against one of that quartet being handed the reins in time, but ideally 2-3 years down the line, when they've all cut their teeth in the lower leagues first.
It does highlight how much of a blow it would be losing SD, there's not an obvious replacement waiting in the wings, plus your probably correct that the rest of the management team would follow the main man, that's pretty standard in this day and age.
-
- Posts: 1375
- Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 10:06 pm
- Been Liked: 294 times
- Has Liked: 92 times
Re: Injuries hit Clarets for opener
Cannot blame Garlick one little bit for being entirely reticent in giving contracts to the 5 players that have been referenced. Ok Hendrick is borderline, Bardsley has done ok but how old is the bloke ? One year absolute maximum. The other three ? Wow. Fortunately looks like Lennon is out of the door, fingers crossed that Hart isn’t far behind him. Legendz (?) I’d offer to give the bloke a lift myself, but fear I wouldn’t recognise him.
The fact that Brady has managed to get an extension is incredulous- he’s laughing at us (literally most of the time in his case).
The fact that Brady has managed to get an extension is incredulous- he’s laughing at us (literally most of the time in his case).
Re: Injuries hit Clarets for opener
If those out of contract do not volunteer to play, we have 15 players available, including 2 keepers, with matches, thick and fast.
...and we are premier league!
...and we are premier league!
-
- Posts: 9905
- Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2016 2:28 pm
- Been Liked: 2350 times
- Has Liked: 3181 times
Re: Injuries hit Clarets for opener
I watched Sean Dyche presser earlier today. I didn't think he looked well. Maybe just the emotions of 3 months break and then coming back to do his job and coming up with an issue he'd not expected. He's always known about the players' contracts and when those contracts end. Maybe he'd not thought about the risk that one or two players would be unwilling to sign a one month extension. Maybe he'd just had a conversation with Mike Garlick - who will be worrying about the club's finances post-covid-19 - and MG had told him that the club was happy to pay the same wage for the extra month beyond the end of contracts, but couldn't afford to pay any more. Maybe SD had been speaking with some of the ooc players and learnt that (some of) they were not going to sign extensions because 6 games in 22 days (5th to 26th July) was too big a risk of injury and so would want a lot more than their usual monthly wage. Alongside this, SD would have been spending his time thinking how to set up the team/squad for the last 9 games and give it a real push to get into Europe - and then he's just learnt that a number of the squad will not be there for those 9 games.
Give Sean Dyche a few hours to reflect and he will decide that he is ok to take on the challenge again. Yes, he'd like to be in a job where the resources are more plentiful than at Turf Moor, but those types of jobs also come with the risk that the manager/coach is expendable if they aren't delivering "trophies."
UTC
Give Sean Dyche a few hours to reflect and he will decide that he is ok to take on the challenge again. Yes, he'd like to be in a job where the resources are more plentiful than at Turf Moor, but those types of jobs also come with the risk that the manager/coach is expendable if they aren't delivering "trophies."
UTC
-
- Posts: 9471
- Joined: Sun Oct 16, 2016 10:47 pm
- Been Liked: 1184 times
- Has Liked: 779 times
Re: Mr Garlick versus Mighty Sean
There’s no risk attached at all in terms of whether this could have negative implications in deciding our PL status which is all but guaranteed albeit not mathematically, you’ve got all the breathing space you need in terms of deciding what to do with whom, it’s a simple case of going through the motions & assessing what’s what at the end, it’s actually advantageous letting people walk who you don’t want or who are reluctant to stop on & renew, you then know exactly what you need & who to replace accordingly.