The football so far.

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The football so far.

Post by fanzone » Sun Jun 21, 2020 6:05 pm

Anyone else underwhelmed?

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Re: The football so far.

Post by Burnley1989 » Sun Jun 21, 2020 6:14 pm

I’ve not bothered watching one game yet! I’ll be watching tomorrow though

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Re: The football so far.

Post by burnmark » Sun Jun 21, 2020 6:39 pm

I’ve enjoyed it. Of course it’s not the same as we are used to but it miles better than having none.
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Re: The football so far.

Post by NewClaret » Sun Jun 21, 2020 6:43 pm

Nope, loved it, but I have been missing it a lot.

Games very much have an early season feeling, as you might expect, but think that may change a few games in.

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Re: The football so far.

Post by matttheclaret » Sun Jun 21, 2020 6:45 pm

I quite often watch games on TV having muted it anyway. So it's not actually a big deal to me there being no crowd

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Re: The football so far.

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Jun 21, 2020 6:45 pm

it's been different that's for sure - the most noticeable thing has been the lack of play acting and rolling over, most players are getting back up after a challenge; I hope the refs are paying attention to it

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Re: The football so far.

Post by tiger76 » Sun Jun 21, 2020 6:47 pm

burnmark wrote:
Sun Jun 21, 2020 6:39 pm
I’ve enjoyed it. Of course it’s not the same as we are used to but it miles better than having none.
I'd agree with you, it's definitely lacking an edge, but it beats watching repeats of old games, i'd rather have limited football than no football.

And thankfully it means footy chat can begin to appear near the time of this board instead of other topics.

I've only watched the free to air games, as i don't have a pay-tv package, but it's been decent, and there's been some good goals scored.

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Re: The football so far.

Post by bobinho » Sun Jun 21, 2020 6:51 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Sun Jun 21, 2020 6:45 pm
it's been different that's for sure - the most noticeable thing has been the lack of play acting and rolling over, most players are getting back up after a challenge; I hope the refs are paying attention to it
So all this play acting and conning the ref and cheating....it's all for our benefit?

Someone needs to tell 'em we don't really like it.... :?
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Re: The football so far.

Post by ksrclaret » Sun Jun 21, 2020 6:54 pm

Not sure why anyone would complain about it - surely better than having no football at all with no clear date for its return.

Hopefully this no fans business is a very temporary measure and we can all enjoy a proper match day again.

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Re: The football so far.

Post by FactualFrank » Sun Jun 21, 2020 6:54 pm

Overall, liked it.

I keep forgetting there's no crowd, as whoever is doing the crowd noise on Sky is doing a decent job.
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Re: The football so far.

Post by claretblue » Sun Jun 21, 2020 6:57 pm

Burnley1989 wrote:
Sun Jun 21, 2020 6:14 pm
I’ve not bothered watching one game yet! I’ll be watching tomorrow though
glory hunter!

:D

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Re: The football so far.

Post by bfcmik » Sun Jun 21, 2020 7:13 pm

I'll be watching tomorrow night with the sound off and Phil Bird doing his usual totally impartial commentary :shock: :shock: :lol: :lol:

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Re: The football so far.

Post by ClaretTony » Sun Jun 21, 2020 7:20 pm

I’ve not missed a game yet. Not sure how long I’ll keep that up but really good to have some football to watch again.

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Re: The football so far.

Post by Bfcboyo » Sun Jun 21, 2020 7:25 pm

Am I right in thinking the title could be decided tomorrow evening.

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Re: The football so far.

Post by rob63 » Sun Jun 21, 2020 7:26 pm

Find myself in a strange position......actually agreeing with Ian Wright. It does seem as if the younger players have come back keener & fitter than the older end........doesn't bode well for the Clarets then!

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Re: The football so far.

Post by rob63 » Sun Jun 21, 2020 7:29 pm

bobinho wrote:
Sun Jun 21, 2020 6:51 pm
So all this play acting and conning the ref and cheating....it's all for our benefit?

Someone needs to tell 'em we don't really like it.... :?
Who could you possibly mean????

Think SD has already got a new hobby horse to complain about ;)

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Re: The football so far.

Post by Devils_Advocate » Sun Jun 21, 2020 7:34 pm

I think this is the way forward. If having no fans in the ground is the sacrifice required to have every game on TV spread across the week then its a sacrifice worth making

For those that like the social aspect of it then once the pubs are open you'll be able to watch it down the pub with them all and with other fans too

Feels like a win-win situation and with the added bonus of the fake crowd noise that gives it an authentic feel I really wish we could keep this format once the pandemic is final over

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Re: The football so far.

Post by Danieljwaterhouse » Sun Jun 21, 2020 7:38 pm

Don’t be silly DA.

I take your point, but you can’t rob a generation of walking out in which stadium their mum, dad, whoever takes them to for the first time. It’s something that stays with you FOREVER.
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Re: The football so far.

Post by Devils_Advocate » Sun Jun 21, 2020 7:40 pm

Gotta move with the times, the next generation will never miss what they've never had

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Re: The football so far.

Post by mikeS » Sun Jun 21, 2020 7:43 pm

Can’t say I’ve been excited by what I’ve seen.
I think it’s because my team weren’t playing.
Roll on tomorrow night.
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Re: The football so far.

Post by AlargeClaret » Sun Jun 21, 2020 7:44 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Sun Jun 21, 2020 7:34 pm
I think this is the way forward. If having no fans in the ground is the sacrifice required to have every game on TV spread across the week then its a sacrifice worth making

For those that like the social aspect of it then once the pubs are open you'll be able to watch it down the pub with them all and with other fans too

Feels like a win-win situation and with the added bonus of the fake crowd noise that gives it an authentic feel I really wish we could keep this format once the pandemic is final over
A decent enough cast ,let’s see what your baited net brings in

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Re: The football so far.

Post by Devils_Advocate » Sun Jun 21, 2020 7:47 pm

Dead serious pal, change doesn't frighten me.

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Re: The football so far.

Post by Buxtonclaret » Sun Jun 21, 2020 7:47 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Sun Jun 21, 2020 7:34 pm
I think this is the way forward. If having no fans in the ground is the sacrifice required to have every game on TV spread across the week then its a sacrifice worth making

For those that like the social aspect of it then once the pubs are open you'll be able to watch it down the pub with them all and with other fans too

Feels like a win-win situation and with the added bonus of the fake crowd noise that gives it an authentic feel I really wish we could keep this format once the pandemic is final over

Nah
You can do better than that.

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Re: The football so far.

Post by WadingInDeeper » Sun Jun 21, 2020 7:55 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Sun Jun 21, 2020 6:45 pm
it's been different that's for sure - the most noticeable thing has been the lack of play acting and rolling over, most players are getting back up after a challenge; I hope the refs are paying attention to it
We've only watched the first game, that's 90mins of my life I'm not getting back, but we noticed that players were getting up a lot quicker and without all the histrionics.

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Re: The football so far.

Post by tiger76 » Sun Jun 21, 2020 8:13 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Sun Jun 21, 2020 7:47 pm
Dead serious pal, change doesn't frighten me.
As it's you i'll humour you, that's fine for the PL clubs, what about clubs such as Accy Stanley etc who can't survive without gate receipts.

And do you genuinely think Sky et al will pay billions for games in empty stadiums, this is an once in a generation event, hence why special arrangements are being made to have the games free to air, the likes of Amazon, BT and Sky have already made it clear this won't be the case in the long term, which is assume they hope is next season.

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Re: The football so far.

Post by MrTopTier » Sun Jun 21, 2020 8:21 pm

City still play decent football.
Villa, Bournemouth, Norwich and West Ham are bobbins.
Wolves looked good.
Jon Moss cannot wait to give a penalty.
Arsenal are gash, there are no words for David Luiz.
Sheffield Utd are on the beach.
Tottenham and Utd was a decent game.
Looking forward to tomorrow.
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Re: The football so far.

Post by Devils_Advocate » Sun Jun 21, 2020 8:31 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Sun Jun 21, 2020 8:13 pm
As it's you i'll humour you, that's fine for the PL clubs, what about clubs such as Accy Stanley etc who can't survive without gate receipts.

And do you genuinely think Sky et al will pay billions for games in empty stadiums, this is an once in a generation event, hence why special arrangements are being made to have the games free to air, the likes of Amazon, BT and Sky have already made it clear this won't be the case in the long term, which is assume they hope is next season.
Lower League football is going to see the bottom fall out of it sooner or later and is a problem that will need solving. What the answer is I dont know but as part of this shake up this could be addressed.

I accept it will not happen but if it did and if when push came to shove there was no other option on offer then the TV companies would still want the rights and would pay up. If a bit of TV money is taken out of the game then good because the wages the players, managers and agents earn is ludicrous and brings with it the threat of football clubs being too over reliant on future money and at risk of collapsing like a house of cards

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Re: The football so far.

Post by chekhov » Sun Jun 21, 2020 8:36 pm

It’s been nice to see some of the footballers growing their hair a bit longer. Not a fan of these ‘modern’ haircuts.

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Re: The football so far.

Post by timshorts » Sun Jun 21, 2020 8:49 pm

Best performance : St maximim of Newcastle.
Best game: Northampton v Cheltenham.
Best resylt: wolves win at the playboy mansion.

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Re: The football so far.

Post by Blackrod » Sun Jun 21, 2020 8:59 pm

Only watched 3 games as I’ve got better things to do with my time. Avoided the bore draws. As said above less play acting which I prefer. Saw some good football with the Wolves, Palace and Fulham games. But for Burnley I think apathy has set in a bit and I’m not desperate to watch it.

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Post by jrgbfc » Sun Jun 21, 2020 9:21 pm

I'm amazed how many footballers must live with a hairdresser/barber. Most of them seem to be sporting fresh haircuts.

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Post by taio » Sun Jun 21, 2020 9:24 pm

jrgbfc wrote:
Sun Jun 21, 2020 9:21 pm
I'm amazed how many footballers must live with a hairdresser/barber. Most of them seem to be sporting fresh haircuts.
Or their partner does it for them with clippers.

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Re: The football so far.

Post by tiger76 » Sun Jun 21, 2020 9:48 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Sun Jun 21, 2020 8:31 pm
Lower League football is going to see the bottom fall out of it sooner or later and is a problem that will need solving. What the answer is I dont know but as part of this shake up this could be addressed.

I accept it will not happen but if it did and if when push came to shove there was no other option on offer then the TV companies would still want the rights and would pay up. If a bit of TV money is taken out of the game then good because the wages the players, managers and agents earn is ludicrous and brings with it the threat of football clubs being too over reliant on future money and at risk of collapsing like a house of cards
I can see the lower leagues going part-time similar to the Irish, Scottish & Welsh leagues, there's certainly going to be some hard nosed business decisions for many owners over this summer, even before this CV outbreak many were struggling to keep their heads above water, Bury for example, Macclesfield & Southend are just 3 that come to mind instantly, but i'll wager they won't be the last.

The TV money dropping may not be a bad thing, but won't it just be replaced by billionaire owners pumping their own riches in?

We agree on the crazy wages and other expenditure, and it's this disparity that is driving some fans out of love with the game, of course football isn't just the PL, there is a plethora of amateur/junior games that can be watched for a pittance compared to the cost of season tickets for the average PL team.

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Post by Devils_Advocate » Sun Jun 21, 2020 9:54 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Sun Jun 21, 2020 9:48 pm
I can see the lower leagues going part-time similar to the Irish, Scottish & Welsh leagues, there's certainly going to be some hard nosed business decisions for many owners over this summer, even before this CV outbreak many were struggling to keep their heads above water, Bury for example, Macclesfield & Southend are just 3 that come to mind instantly, but i'll wager they won't be the last.

The TV money dropping may not be a bad thing, but won't it just be replaced by billionaire owners pumping their own riches in?

We agree on the crazy wages and other expenditure, and it's this disparity that is driving some fans out of love with the game, of course football isn't just the PL, there is a plethora of amateur/junior games that can be watched for a pittance compared to the cost of season tickets for the average PL team.
Behave your tempting me into a serious and sensible discussion here :)

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Post by Wile E Coyote » Sun Jun 21, 2020 10:23 pm

got a taste of the no crowd thing watching the german games before our lot kicked off again.
Huge difference without the atmosphere of fans packed in. never had to watch matches at this level like this before with so little noise, but once you adjust after a few minutes it draws you in little by little. some decentish matches, some poor. it'll all be different tomorrow though when the claret tinted specs come out the drawer and the real football begins.

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Re: The football so far.

Post by claptrappers_union » Sun Jun 21, 2020 10:33 pm

I wouldn't say its been underwhelming, it's pretty much what I expected. I think it'll get more exciting though when the relegation scrap comes into it.

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Re: The football so far.

Post by Steve1956 » Sun Jun 21, 2020 10:54 pm

I havn't seen the wife this weekend Watched all eight games...i love football.......more than i love the wife :)

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Re: The football so far.

Post by tiger76 » Sun Jun 21, 2020 11:18 pm

In terms of the results, although we haven't yet played, they make pretty good reading for the Clarets.

Arsenal have lost both their games.

Sheff Utd have only 1 point from their 2 games.

Spurs & Man Utd each dropped 2 points.

And Everton only managed a draw today, and are still below us.

Shame about Palace, Newcastle, Southampton & Wolves winning, but you can't have everything.

And for those nervous nellies who still think we're at risk of relegation, Brighton apart the bottom sides made little or no progress, we're still 12 points clear of the drop zone, and our GD is worth a point.

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Post by Sheedyclaret » Sun Jun 21, 2020 11:21 pm

Passive so far players going through the motions as to be expected

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Re: The football so far.

Post by Bin Ont Turf » Sun Jun 21, 2020 11:26 pm

I've been underwhelmed by it (Premier League) for a long while.

The only reason I give a sh1t about it, is because Burnley are in it.
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Post by TheFamilyCat » Mon Jun 22, 2020 7:50 am

timshorts wrote:
Sun Jun 21, 2020 8:49 pm
Best performance : St maximim of Newcastle.
Best game: Northampton v Cheltenham.
Best resylt: wolves win at the playboy mansion.
Playboy Mansion? More like the Razzle Maisonette.

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Re: The football so far.

Post by Tall Paul » Mon Jun 22, 2020 7:59 am

Blackrod wrote:
Sun Jun 21, 2020 8:59 pm
Only watched 3 games as I’ve got better things to do with my time. Avoided the bore draws. As said above less play acting which I prefer. Saw some good football with the Wolves, Palace and Fulham games. But for Burnley I think apathy has set in a bit and I’m not desperate to watch it.
How did you know which games were going to be bore draws so that you could avoid them?

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Post by Healeywoodclaret » Mon Jun 22, 2020 8:24 am

Blackrod wrote:
Sun Jun 21, 2020 8:59 pm
Only watched 3 games as I’ve got better things to do with my time. Avoided the bore draws. As said above less play acting which I prefer. Saw some good football with the Wolves, Palace and Fulham games. But for Burnley I think apathy has set in a bit and I’m not desperate to watch it.
Totally agree. Cancelled my sky sports package and saved myself a packet. I think a lot of people will follow suit. All sporting events are dead in the water until this situation is finally over.

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Re: The football so far.

Post by Gp8419 » Mon Jun 22, 2020 9:01 am

Nice to have something to watch,but what I have learnt is they don’t play much bloody football.There as been some right crap games waiting for a 3-3 yet.

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Post by NottsClaret » Mon Jun 22, 2020 9:17 am

It's better than absolutely nothing but if there was a local league cricket game on or a grass roots football match on the council pitch, I'd prefer to go along and watch that.

Fans should be charging clubs and Sky to attend, not the other way round. They don't have a product to sell without us.
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Re: The football so far.

Post by Swizzlestick » Mon Jun 22, 2020 9:19 am

It’s been alright. To be expected after such a lay off. I’d expect things to pick up in the next week or two, particularly involving teams at the bottom.

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