The trail goes dead when you get back to "who replaced John Deary".ClaretTony wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 2:55 pmHow many more times? Brownhill was signed to replace Drinkwater who was signed to replace Defour.
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Big recruitment job to do on the wide positions next season. As it stands McNeil is the only player we can rely on to be available.
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I prefer to say that Brownhill will replace Hendrick. Because finding someone to do what Drinkwater did, won't be hard!ClaretTony wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 2:55 pmHow many more times? Brownhill was signed to replace Drinkwater who was signed to replace Defour.
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Who was signed to replace Deary.ClaretTony wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 2:55 pmHow many more times? Brownhill was signed to replace Drinkwater who was signed to replace Defour.
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That's very definitely a key area now with Lennon & Hendrick gone and both JBG and Brady, shall we say, not over reliable in terms of availability.agreenwood wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 2:57 pmBig recruitment job to do on the wide positions next season. As it stands McNeil is the only player we can rely on to be available.
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Are there still rumours about Jeff going to AC Milan or was that a joke?
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I can confirm that it wasn't a jokeIm_not_Robbie_Blake wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 3:24 pmAre there still rumours about Jeff going to AC Milan or was that a joke?
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Only be a few days until the clamour to sign Eliasson begins.
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For the remaining games with us pretty much safe I think Brownhill can fill in there, I didn't see anything less from him on Monday than I would have expected from Jeff.
As said getting in another couple of wingers has to be a priority now, especially since re-signing Bardsley means we go into next season with 2 right backs and whilst that's still an area we could do with some succession planning it's not as pressing as the wing. The money saved on Jeff's wage, which I will imagine was one of the bigger one's, could be well invested given that the leagues below the EPL (and some abroad) will be suffering worse than ourselves - here's where the recruitment department should really be proving themselves as players from these league that may have been too much of a financial risk previously may now start to be more realistic gambles on taking a step up.
Bright Osayi-Samuel would be top of my list for that right wing slot. Though QPR will probably sell Eze and so won't be as desperate for cash he does only have 1 year remaining on his deal. He's got the work ethic that Dyche will like and the direct running, technique and pace that the fans would love to see driving in from that wing.
Matty Cash another, I know he's been deployed at right back this season but he's played most of his career as a right winger and in our formation being able to do both would actually be ideal. He'd probably be higher cost though as his current deal is until 2023.
As said getting in another couple of wingers has to be a priority now, especially since re-signing Bardsley means we go into next season with 2 right backs and whilst that's still an area we could do with some succession planning it's not as pressing as the wing. The money saved on Jeff's wage, which I will imagine was one of the bigger one's, could be well invested given that the leagues below the EPL (and some abroad) will be suffering worse than ourselves - here's where the recruitment department should really be proving themselves as players from these league that may have been too much of a financial risk previously may now start to be more realistic gambles on taking a step up.
Bright Osayi-Samuel would be top of my list for that right wing slot. Though QPR will probably sell Eze and so won't be as desperate for cash he does only have 1 year remaining on his deal. He's got the work ethic that Dyche will like and the direct running, technique and pace that the fans would love to see driving in from that wing.
Matty Cash another, I know he's been deployed at right back this season but he's played most of his career as a right winger and in our formation being able to do both would actually be ideal. He'd probably be higher cost though as his current deal is until 2023.
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CT-I see Drinkwater does now not get in the starting squad despite 9 subs. So much for him joining AV on the understanding he gets game time. He looks to be someone forgotton now. Had his chance to re-instate his career with us-SD trusted him initially and backed him. He could have been a good fit had he tried
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Where’s he going? Celtic?
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he couldn't against Chelseawarksclaret wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 3:47 pmCT-I see Drinkwater does now not get in the starting squad despite 9 subs. So much for him joining AV on the understanding he gets game time. He looks to be someone forgotton now. Had his chance to re-instate his career with us-SD trusted him initially and backed him. He could have been a good fit had he tried
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He didn't make the bench against Sheff Utd either.
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Think its 4 games now hes not made the bench
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The Dean Smith & Drinkwater thread hasn't worked out quite how some would have hoped.
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Good post a couple of fit wingers would be a start, Brady & JBG are as fragile as bone china.Mattster wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 3:32 pmFor the remaining games with us pretty much safe I think Brownhill can fill in there, I didn't see anything less from him on Monday than I would have expected from Jeff.
As said getting in another couple of wingers has to be a priority now, especially since re-signing Bardsley means we go into next season with 2 right backs and whilst that's still an area we could do with some succession planning it's not as pressing as the wing. The money saved on Jeff's wage, which I will imagine was one of the bigger one's, could be well invested given that the leagues below the EPL (and some abroad) will be suffering worse than ourselves - here's where the recruitment department should really be proving themselves as players from these league that may have been too much of a financial risk previously may now start to be more realistic gambles on taking a step up.
Bright Osayi-Samuel would be top of my list for that right wing slot. Though QPR will probably sell Eze and so won't be as desperate for cash he does only have 1 year remaining on his deal. He's got the work ethic that Dyche will like and the direct running, technique and pace that the fans would love to see driving in from that wing.
Matty Cash another, I know he's been deployed at right back this season but he's played most of his career as a right winger and in our formation being able to do both would actually be ideal. He'd probably be higher cost though as his current deal is until 2023.
I mentioned BOS on another thread a few days ago, and like you what caught my eye was he's only got 12 months on his contract, if we're going to spend relatively big this summer, i'd prefer it was on players that fit his profile, only 22 but he's looked good in an average QPR team this season, and he seems like the type that could make the step up to the Prem relatively seamlessly.
Matty Cash would be a good long-term signing if we could get him, he might be out of our price range though, and he's on along-term contract. plus we'd have to deal with Forest again.
But those 2 on linking up on the right, and Charlie & Dwight on the left would definitely add another dimension to our attack, sadly i doubt it'll happen, but we can dream can't we.
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I remember some posters at the time were desperate for Drinkwater to have a few blinders for Villa.claretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 4:40 pmThe Dean Smith & Drinkwater thread hasn't worked out quite how some would have hoped.
Weird.
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Sorry I don’t want to trawl through the whole thread but there’s something I don’t get. Isn’t Hendrick along with the rest of the ooc players being paid up to the end of June when their contracts run out?
That being the case why aren’t they in the match day squad??? They are being paid to do sweet f*** all.
Personally I think it’s outrageous.
That being the case why aren’t they in the match day squad??? They are being paid to do sweet f*** all.
Personally I think it’s outrageous.
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Brownhill was signed to replace Lennon (who we were never going to keep) and injured JBGClaretTony wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 3:09 pmDespite the fact that we were trying to keep Hendrick despite signing Brownhill.
He played a lot of his games for Bristol City wide right
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Played some on right for Brizzle but it’s obvious that he was the addition needed in centre mid following Defour and then Drinkwater.
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Reading the comments Dyche has made on the website today, I think he did want to keep Aaron Lennon beyond the season.
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Whoever is in charge next season, has got a massive job his hands. If Tarks goes, it'll be an even bigger job.
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Of course he has but none of the players who are going to sign for another club are interested in helping us out unlike Pedro and William. No goodwill or integrity there after getting full wages for three months for doing nothing, but when the club needs them to help out because of our injuries , just two fingers waived in our direction.northeastclaret wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 1:05 pmNo one can have any doubt about Ben Mee's integrity after his post-match statement on Monday night.
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Hi northeast, I don't blame any of the players taking their wages while PL was on lockdown. Not their fault that the league was suspended. The club has 6 games in July, Sunday 5th thru Sunday 26th. 6 games in 22 days is a "big ask" for any professional footballer. There's a big risk of injury with so many games over such a short period (unless they only "go through the motions"), especially given the age of the ooc players. Unless they already have a deal which suits them worked out with another club, then they are taking the risk that an injury in July is the end of their career. I've no problem that Burnley didn't want to retain these players longer term. We made Hendrick an offer. I've no problem that he hasn't accepted.
Burnley don't need "helping out." We are already safe to be in Premier League next season. We are there because the squad have all played their part in us getting there. Yes, some of our other players being injured is always a challenge, especially when "numbers are limited." What was it Sean Dyche said when Charlie Austin left Burnley? Opportunities for others to step up and show what they can do.
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Gutted he’s gone, and at face value can’t see the sense in it from the club - will cost a lot to replace - but we do t know just how much we were being held to ransom. Hope in the end he/his agent were being unreasonable and Dyche was understanding of our position.
Puts the pressure on recruitment next year. Hope we have some ambitious and well developed plans in place!
Puts the pressure on recruitment next year. Hope we have some ambitious and well developed plans in place!
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It won’t happen though
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Pirlo, Gullit, Kaka, Hendrick!
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I don’t understand this either. It seems Dyche has taken the players side and agreed not to play them as any injury would jeopardise future contracts with other clubs.chekhov wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 5:27 pmSorry I don’t want to trawl through the whole thread but there’s something I don’t get. Isn’t Hendrick along with the rest of the ooc players being paid up to the end of June when their contracts run out?
That being the case why aren’t they in the match day squad??? They are being paid to do sweet f*** all.
Personally I think it’s outrageous.
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He repaid every single penny of his signing on fee and wages, my favorate player over the last 3 seasons,good luck Jeff we are going to miss you.
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I was wondering how you were holding up, I did ask yesterday.
I was starting to worry.
I'm here if you need me, you're in my thoughts and prayers.
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Ridiculous. Fit, under contract players not able to play. Probably getting on for £200,000 in wages. I’m fuming!Winstonswhite wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 6:55 pmI don’t understand this either. It seems Dyche has taken the players side and agreed not to play them as any injury would jeopardise future contracts with other clubs.
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The problem as I see it is that if we gave in to the demands of OOC players (for example we cover the sort of signing on fee he might get elsewhere) it could lead to all players following suit rather than extending existing deals.NewClaret wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 6:37 pmGutted he’s gone, and at face value can’t see the sense in it from the club - will cost a lot to replace - but we do t know just how much we were being held to ransom. Hope in the end he/his agent were being unreasonable and Dyche was understanding of our position.
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Totally agree, BB, not to mention the message it would send out to the team (paying one of their teammates a lump sum/comparatively inflated wages).boatshed bill wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 7:20 pmThe problem as I see it is that if we gave in to the demands of OOC players (for example we cover the sort of signing on fee he might get elsewhere) it could lead to all players following suit rather than extending existing deals.
Horrible, I know, but I hope he struggles to find a new club/better contract now. He’s probably got something lined up to be so ballsy about not signing, but I hope now the option of re-signing has gone away, other clubs lower their offers.
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Yes this is the crux of the matter, once you start moving from the sensible strategy, that's served us so well these last few seasons, then you risk rocking the boat, Jeff was a loyal servant to the club, and was handsomely rewarded in turn, but he's not worth breaking our wage structure over, i'd say nobody is, as frustrating as this can be for the fans, it's the right approach for a club like ours to take.boatshed bill wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 7:20 pmThe problem as I see it is that if we gave in to the demands of OOC players (for example we cover the sort of signing on fee he might get elsewhere) it could lead to all players following suit rather than extending existing deals.
Good luck to Jeff in his future career wherever that might be. And thanks for the memories, his strike at Chelsea last season, and the goal at Everton involving 24 passes will be long remembered.
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Be interesting to see what reception he would get coming back to the Turf for another club. Don't know if other posters are like me but your fondness of someone leaving our club is influenced in the manner they left
Ex players I still have a lot of time for-Keane, Heaton, Tripps,De Four, Vokes, Arfield
Players not on my Christmas card list-Shackell, Gray, Austin, Ings
Ex players I still have a lot of time for-Keane, Heaton, Tripps,De Four, Vokes, Arfield
Players not on my Christmas card list-Shackell, Gray, Austin, Ings
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Shackell should still be on that list.warksclaret wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 9:48 pmBe interesting to see what reception he would get coming back to the Turf for another club. Don't know if other posters are like me but your fondness of someone leaving our club is influenced in the manner they left
Ex players I still have a lot of time for-Keane, Heaton, Tripps,De Four, Vokes, Arfield
Players not on my Christmas card list-Shackell, Gray, Austin, Ings
Rovers games and didn't he have a complete mare in his first game against us after he left?
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I am absolutely gutted he's gone to be honest.
Could play in 3 different positions across midfield, never got injured, popped up with some very important goals, obviously a firm favourite and trusted servant of the manager's. He will be tough to replace.
I hope Josh Brownhill can be just as effective for us now. I know some people tend to get annoyed when it's mentioned that Brownhill is Hendrick's replacement, but in a positional sense he absolutely is that.
Could play in 3 different positions across midfield, never got injured, popped up with some very important goals, obviously a firm favourite and trusted servant of the manager's. He will be tough to replace.
I hope Josh Brownhill can be just as effective for us now. I know some people tend to get annoyed when it's mentioned that Brownhill is Hendrick's replacement, but in a positional sense he absolutely is that.
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I doubt he'll be rocking up at the Turf anytime soon, the rumours are he's got a career waiting in Italy or Scotland, i'd be if he went to Newcastle.warksclaret wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 9:48 pmBe interesting to see what reception he would get coming back to the Turf for another club. Don't know if other posters are like me but your fondness of someone leaving our club is influenced in the manner they left
Ex players I still have a lot of time for-Keane, Heaton, Tripps,De Four, Vokes, Arfield
Players not on my Christmas card list-Shackell, Gray, Austin, Ings
I'd add Stanislas to that list, he gave his all, and he's one of the few who's gone onto better things.
I'm confused why Austin and Ings aren't on your Christmas card list, the former we had no choice but to sell, and the latter got an offer from one of the biggest clubs in European if not world football.
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Brownhill wasn't brought in to replace Hendrick, well not unless someone had a crystal ball back in January.
Brownhill was brought in because as usual we were short of centre midfielders, and here we are again.
Brownhill 'now' replaces Hendrick, only because we have a load of crocked wingers.
Brownhill was brought in because as usual we were short of centre midfielders, and here we are again.
Brownhill 'now' replaces Hendrick, only because we have a load of crocked wingers.
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Austin has turned out to be a journeyman. He left us on the eve of the first game of the season-went to Hull and failed his medical and within a day signing up with QPR in the Championship. I just felt he could not get away from Burnley quick enough
Ings is very likeable but I hear the manner he went about his move was not ethical and he let SD down
Ings is very likeable but I hear the manner he went about his move was not ethical and he let SD down
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I reckon Dyche had a pretty good idea back in January that he'd probably be losing Hendrick this summer. I suspect Brownhill was an attractive buy because he offers much of what Hendrick does, as well as his other qualities.
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Yes but Bally replaced Johnrose who in turn replaced Mark effing Ford who replaced Damien Matthews who replaced Nigel Gleghorn who replaced Adie Randall.
But we never replaced John Deary.
No, sorry, scrap that.
Joey. Joey Barton replaced John Deary. Finally.
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But it's not a one in one out when you are already short.
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True enough. Thankfully we got Brownhill before Hendrick did one or we'd be even shorter right now. We do need another couple in though, one in the middle and the other out wide.Bin Ont Turf wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 10:23 pmBut it's not a one in one out when you are already short.