tonight's games

[Wile E Coyote]

wasn't long ago howe was being touted as next england manager, or getting one of the prestigious premier league clubs.
I think he still might one day. his abilities nor those of others with limited budgets cannot be dismissed simply because of a poor season. sadly though the media usually end up portraying coaches like these as duds when it suits. all this nonsense about "when their stock is high" is just meaningless.

[ClaretTony]

I've always thought Tindall looked lost at the best of times but Eddie offered nothing

He looked like Stan Laurel scratching his head.

[joey13]

wasn't long ago howe was being touted as next england manager, or getting one of the prestigious premier league clubs.
I think he still might one day. his abilities nor those of others with limited budgets cannot be dismissed simply because of a poor season. sadly though the media usually end up portraying coaches like these as duds when it suits. all this nonsense about "when their stock is high" is just meaningless.

Limited budget

[ClaretTony]

I bet Sean wishes he had his limited budget

[tiger76]

Is this the worst bottom 5 in PL history?
As pointed out by ecc, earlier, since lockdown their collective effort is 0-3-12 with WHU to come.

Good question Gary Neville raised an interesting aspect last night during the Man U game, the teams that approached lockdown in a positive mindset, and the resulting restart in the same manner, have fared far better than the teams that moaned and looked for excuses to get the season null and voided.

You do have to wonder about how geared up for these games the bottom clubs are, Brighton apart they've looked as if they can't be bothered, which given their plights is bizarre, you'd expect them to be fighting tooth and nail for every ball, but on countless occasions today Newcastle just waltzed through the non-existent Bournemouth midfield without a challenge being made, that's unacceptable in any game, but in a must win game is completely i doubt Newcastle have experienced an easier 90 minutes all season.

[Wile E Coyote]

you were once suggesting he was a talented manager

[huw.Y.WattfromWare]

Eddies limited budget. Thanks to Dave(statsman)Roberts on twitter.
Figures are since start of 16/17season.

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[Gordaleman]

Eddies limited budget. Thanks to Dave(statsman)Roberts on twitter.
Figures are since start of 16/17season.
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Not got Burnley's?

[huw.Y.WattfromWare]

Not got Burnley's?

Sadly that was as low as it went. I’ll hunt for his source and let you know if I find it.

[Gordaleman]

Sadly that was as low as it went. I’ll hunt for his source and let you know if I find it.

Cheers.

[Dyched]

People forget that clubs near the bottom are there for a reason, because they’ve been poor. The upturn in form normally comes from backing from the crowds. Without that encouragement as Gary Neville said they are more reluctant to play a risky pass and pass more and more side to side. We will benefit from this as we rarely take to many risks in games and the fact that we’re safe (and only really needed 1 win during the lockdown) has help.

One thing that is annoying me is why aren't managers making subs before half time. You’d have thought they’d take advantage of that.

[timshorts]

can someone explain to me the hype around Nathan Ake ?

He is made to look good when playing alongside Chris mepham who carries out a Ben mee role.
If mepham is injured or dropped the thing falls apart a bit. Today just summed that up. With Ake and mepham - won 1-0. Without lost 4-0.

Meanwhile Chelsea v West ham is ******* ****. I enjoyed the drinks break though.

[Gordaleman]

West Ham one up.

Oh, disallowed after about three and a half mins.

That's a crazy decision. If it takes that long, then it should be given. Talk about marginal.

[timshorts]

...... And the VAR.

[box_of_frogs]

Ridiculous. VAR really is crap.

[Bigvince]

[huw.Y.WattfromWare]

Antonio has to be offside and interfering with azpilicueta. He stops him getting his block in.

[mdd2]

VAR says No

[Marty Dobson]

VAR having a blinder.

[Gordaleman]

Salt rubbed in wound. Goal to Chelsea.

[Bordeauxclaret]

They really need to stop letting idiots control VAR.

[Dyched]

Only just noticed Chelsea are wearing their new kit.

Anyone know wether we change sponsor/manufacture next season?

[huw.Y.WattfromWare]

Cheers.

Here you go. I hope I’m not putting anybody's nose out of place by giving Dave's twitter Page a nod but it is worth a look.
The next 10.

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[Gordaleman]

They really need to stop letting idiots control VAR.

They need to do away with VAR. Imagine that if there had been a crowd in. They would have gone bonkers.

[taio]

Rightly disallowed in my view. Two tests. First, was Antonio in an offside position? Yes. Second, was he interfering? Yes, he has to be in that position. Didn't need to take Moss so long to make his decision though.

[Aclaret]

They really need to stop letting idiots control VAR.

It's Jon Moss

[joey13]

VAR the West Ham way

[box_of_frogs]

I judge FARce by the ‘would I be furious’ with an overturned decision. In that case, Yes, I’d be chuffing well annoyed.

[Gordaleman]

Here you go. I hope I’m not putting anybody's nose out of place by giving Dave's twitter Page a nod but it is worth a look.
The next 10.
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So that gives Burnley a net annual spend of £15 million, not the £9 million that Sean suggested?

[joey13]

They need to do away with VAR. Imagine that if there had been a crowd in. They would have gone bonkers.

West Ham fans are always considered and reasonable though

[huw.Y.WattfromWare]

So that gives Burnley a net spend of £15 million, not the £9 million that Sean suggested?

£133.74 spent- £72.75m income = net £61m over 5 years is how I read it.

[Gordaleman]

£133.74 spent- £72.75m income = net £61m over 5 years is how I read it.

16/17, 17/18, 18/19, 19/20. To me that's four seasons.

[bfcjg]

But Bournemouth can't be losing, they have a rich Russian benefactor who will bring them to the next level.

[Wile E Coyote]

I never said a thing about bournemouth being one of those clubs.

[box_of_frogs]

I for one hope the Hammers stay up. Purely for ease of getting there next season (Covid allowing).

[Vegas Claret]

rightly disallowed but I made that decision within 5 seconds and from first view sitting 10ft away on my couch with my feet up having a brew, I didn't spend 3 minutes drawing lines - it's abject **** poor and pathetic how it takes so long

[Gordaleman]

huw.Y.WattfromWare wrote: ↑Wed Jul 01, 2020 9:08 pm

£133.74 spent- £72.75m income = net £61m over 5 years is how I read it.

Goredaleman: 16/17, 17/18, 18/19, 19/20. To me that's four seasons.

So who's right? Your source on Twitter, or Sean? It's a valid question and I'm not belittling either.

[Vegas Claret]

2-1 Hammers

[Gordaleman]

Meanwhile, 2-1 Wet Spam. Maybe a bit of justice there after that ludicrous VAR decision.

[ClaretTony]

I for one hope the Hammers stay up. Purely for ease of getting there next season (Covid allowing).

From our point of view it’s probably best if it were Villa & West Ham to go down simply because they are the bigger clubs.

[FactualFrank]

That's West Ham staying up then!

[NewClaret]

Wouldn’t like to be a Villa fan tonight!

[NewClaret]

C’mon boys, we’re 9 points off the Champions League!!

[huw.Y.WattfromWare]

huw.Y.WattfromWare wrote: ↑Wed Jul 01, 2020 9:08 pm

£133.74 spent- £72.75m income = net £61m over 5 years is how I read it.

Goredaleman: 16/17, 17/18, 18/19, 19/20. To me that's four seasons.

So who's right? Your source on Twitter, or Sean? It's a valid question and I'm not belittling either.

I’m not sure on what stat SD was basing his figures. Just like politics they can both be correct but from a different perspective.

[Vegas Claret]

Wouldn’t like to be a Villa fan tonight!

or any night

[Gordaleman]

Wouldn’t like to be a Villa fan tonight!

You'd enjoy being a West Brom fan though. Two up at Sheff Wed.

[Spijed]

Why do we struggle so much against the top sides when other sides seem to give them closer games?

[Gordaleman]

I’m not sure on what stat SD was basing his figures. Just like politics they can both be correct but from a different perspective.

Maybe agents fees aren't included in the twitter version?

[Gordaleman]

Why do we struggle so much against the top sides when other sides seem to give them closer games?

We didn't struggle too much at Man U and they haven't lost a game since we beat them.

[jrgbfc]

West Ham at least appear to be showing a bit of fight, which should be enough given how poor their rivals are. Tough game for us down there on Wednesday.