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Bardsley to sign new deal. Breaking now.

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Re: Bardsley to sign new deal. Breaking now.

Post by huw.Y.WattfromWare » Wed Jun 24, 2020 10:42 am

All over twitter that he’s signed a 1 year extension but I’ll wait for the club to announce.
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Post by cricketfieldclarets » Wed Jun 24, 2020 10:43 am

If on sensible terms a sensible move.

But with all of the out of contract players we shouldn't be over committing. especially for the three all 33 and over!

Good player with the right attitude. But we do need to address the age of the squad and the time right now is actually a great opportunity to do that.

For all these messages on here saying there is a rift between board and manager, things arent looking as gloomy as some say. We need to be realistic and sensible. Breaking the bank for older players who dont want to be here is not sensible.

Happy with Bardsley but even though I think Lennon and Hart were good signings and good characters, they need to move on for all concerned.

Jeff - good player. Rather not lose him for free. But there will be plenty of Hendircks' out there in a similar position.
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Post by warksclaret » Wed Jun 24, 2020 10:44 am

If true will the contract start from 1 July and in that case he could then play in any of the two games left in June (including Watford tomorrow) ???

See this as a positive and a morale lifting move for the squad
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Re: Bardsley to sign new deal. Breaking now.

Post by martin_p » Wed Jun 24, 2020 10:45 am

warksclaret wrote:
Wed Jun 24, 2020 10:44 am
If true will the contract start from 1 July and in that case he could then play in any of the two games left in June (including Watford tomorrow) ???

See this as a positive and a morale lifting move for the squad
His existing contract will cover to the end of a June won’t it?

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Post by ClaretTony » Wed Jun 24, 2020 10:47 am

Article written last night, awaiting any confirmed news, but it would make him available for tomorrow and beyond.
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Re: Bardsley to sign new deal. Breaking now.

Post by huw.Y.WattfromWare » Wed Jun 24, 2020 10:48 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Wed Jun 24, 2020 10:47 am
Article written last night, awaiting any confirmed news, but it would make him available for tomorrow and beyond.
But is the Jeff Hendrick one prepared or has that ship sailed?

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Re: Bardsley to sign new deal. Breaking now.

Post by matttheclaret » Wed Jun 24, 2020 10:48 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Wed Jun 24, 2020 10:47 am
Article written last night, awaiting any confirmed news, but it would make him available for tomorrow and beyond.
Know anything on Hendrick, CT?

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Post by warksclaret » Wed Jun 24, 2020 10:49 am

Agree with Cricketfield-if Jeff wanted to go then so be it. There are tidy midfield players around who could thrive in the Burnley camp. Look at Ollie Norwood-doing nothing much then went to Sheff Utd and he is putting in some great performances for them. Lets hope our 4 key injuries recover soon
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Post by IanMcL » Wed Jun 24, 2020 10:50 am

The first good news.

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Post by mdd2 » Wed Jun 24, 2020 10:50 am

If true and Bards wanted 2 years, then that is one plus for the Club, one negative re Jeff and two neutrals with Hart and Lennon
Tony any news on Dunne and Koiki contracts and all the other youngsters OOC next week?

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Post by warksclaret » Wed Jun 24, 2020 10:52 am

Ian Mcl-is there a SECOND good news then

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Post by mdd2 » Wed Jun 24, 2020 10:54 am

warksclaret wrote:
Wed Jun 24, 2020 10:52 am
Ian Mcl-is there a SECOND good news then
Doubt it but ian may shed some light although it was probably the shedding of a little light after the gloom of these last few weeks

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Post by Dyched » Wed Jun 24, 2020 10:55 am

warksclaret wrote:
Wed Jun 24, 2020 10:49 am
Agree with Cricketfield-if Jeff wanted to go then so be it. There are tidy midfield players around who could thrive in the Burnley camp. Look at Ollie Norwood-doing nothing much then went to Sheff Utd and he is putting in some great performances for them. Lets hope our 4 key injuries recover soon
It’s hard to imagine there isn’t another 40ish players out there in the Hendrick mould within our budget. Be that in the lower leagues or Youths at other clubs not getting a chance. He’s not exactly a Trippier/Ings type that harder to replace. Then again we replaced them and have been more successful since.

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Re: Bardsley to sign new deal. Breaking now.

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Jun 24, 2020 10:55 am

mdd2 wrote:
Wed Jun 24, 2020 10:50 am
If true and Bards wanted 2 years, then that is one plus for the Club, one negative re Jeff and two neutrals with Hart and Lennon
Tony any news on Dunne and Koiki contracts and all the other youngsters OOC next week?
There has never been any suggestion that Bardsley wanted two years - absolutely no news from the club on the younger players, in fact they've not even told us yet that Lennon & Hart are gone.

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Post by ClaretTony » Wed Jun 24, 2020 10:56 am

matttheclaret wrote:
Wed Jun 24, 2020 10:48 am
Know anything on Hendrick, CT?
I don't think that's going to happen. The deadline for short term deals to get us through the season has passed.

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Post by mdd2 » Wed Jun 24, 2020 10:57 am

Thanks CT

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Post by TVC15 » Wed Jun 24, 2020 11:08 am

warksclaret wrote:
Wed Jun 24, 2020 10:49 am
Agree with Cricketfield-if Jeff wanted to go then so be it. There are tidy midfield players around who could thrive in the Burnley camp. Look at Ollie Norwood-doing nothing much then went to Sheff Utd and he is putting in some great performances for them. Lets hope our 4 key injuries recover soon
Doing nothing much other than getting promoted to the premier league with 3 different teams you mean ?!!!

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Post by Blackrod » Wed Jun 24, 2020 11:10 am

The one player I did want us to resign. He is definitely good for another year.

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Post by warksclaret » Wed Jun 24, 2020 11:11 am

Can see why SD was asking for a little bit of goodwill from some of the OOC players. I know many on here will say they dont blame an OOC player for not wanting to play in July and extend their contracts. For me it would have said something nice about Jeff had he come out and said that he was not staying long term but would help out the club and see through the remaining 9 games. After all he got paid by the club for 3 months without kicking a ball. I say this on the understanding he does not have a contract in place yet with another club

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Post by jrgbfc » Wed Jun 24, 2020 11:11 am

At some point we're going to have to start thinking a bit longer term or our next manager is going to be lumbered with a massive rebuilding job.

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Post by Chester Perry » Wed Jun 24, 2020 11:12 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Wed Jun 24, 2020 10:56 am
I don't think that's going to happen. The deadline for short term deals to get us through the season has passed.
As far as I understand if a long term deal is signed before close on the 30th then Hendrick could play in July - not saying he wants too or will, but as it is a continuation, before the end of an existing contract then he could stay and play if he wanted too. The short term deadline was for those who were going to leave/wanted to keep their options open - but as I posted when the short term options first announced few were ever going to take that option up, simply because of the risks involved to their own futures.
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Post by ClaretTony » Wed Jun 24, 2020 11:12 am

warksclaret wrote:
Wed Jun 24, 2020 11:11 am
Can see why SD was asking for a little bit of goodwill from some of the OOC players.
Was he? By that I suspect you mean playing. That wasn't going to happen. Nothing to do with goodwill.

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Post by ksrclaret » Wed Jun 24, 2020 11:15 am

Great news.

We desperately need more bodies to get us through this season and Bardsley is one you’d want for that. I think he’s certainly worth another year as experienced, consistent and dependable players like him are worth their place in the squad when there is so much uncertainty around at the moment.

I just hope we’re also going to look at recruiting another younger version soon because he can’t go on forever.
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Post by warksclaret » Wed Jun 24, 2020 11:16 am

OK CT-thats how it came over to me and suspect a lot of other fans, but I am not close enough to it, to know if that meant something else

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Post by FactualFrank » Wed Jun 24, 2020 11:16 am

Good news.

Him and Lowton go through good and poor spells and seem to rotate through those spells. When one is playing poorly and the other comes in, he plays well.
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Post by Rowls » Wed Jun 24, 2020 11:17 am

Sounds like this whole contract situation has been handled very badly. Muck ups happen but how we respond and mend whatever damage has been caused is important.

We're a little fish in a big pond. We need to be constantly better than our neighbours merely to survive. We can't allow things to slip.

Hopefully there's a concerted effort going on at board level and with the chairman to heal the rift with Dyche and fix whatever needs to be fixed.

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Post by ashtonlongsider » Wed Jun 24, 2020 11:26 am

If this is right its very good news. The only one of the quintet of occ's that I wanted us to re-sign. PB has plenty of miles in the tank, a good athlete and pro.

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Post by tiger76 » Wed Jun 24, 2020 11:28 am

Bardsley on a 12 month deal makes sense to both parties, there's no guarantee that he'll be snapped up by another club, even on a free transfer, and with all the current uncertainty, the one thing we do know is BFC will be competing in the PL next season at least, yes we do need a younger RB in time, but we need to wait until the current crisis has passed before committing to splashing out on emerging talent, when we don't need to.

If signing Bards for another year ensures we can strengthen in other areas CM, RW are the 2 glaring positions for me, then all well and good, and he's an integral part of the dressing room.

I'll be surprised if Hendrick resigns he clearly has suitors chasing his services, if so then we'll move on, we've already brought Brownhill in. so it's not as if we're desperate for Jeff to commit his future to BFC, especially if his demands were excessive.
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Post by Down_Rover » Wed Jun 24, 2020 11:30 am

Rowls wrote:
Wed Jun 24, 2020 11:17 am
Sounds like this whole contract situation has been handled very badly. Muck ups happen but how we respond and mend whatever damage has been caused is important.

We're a little fish in a big pond. We need to be constantly better than our neighbours merely to survive. We can't allow things to slip.

Hopefully there's a concerted effort going on at board level and with the chairman to heal the rift with Dyche and fix whatever needs to be fixed.
How can you say the situation has been handled badly? Were you in the room throughout the negotiations and know it was the Club's fault. Maybe it was the player(s)?

I can understand those that say the end result is disappointing but there would be many who would have complained if we re-signed either or both of Hart and Lennon.

So the only downside is we lose Hendrick for good and Bardsley for one game that we would always lose. Brave decision by Hendrick

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Re: Bardsley to sign new deal. Breaking now.

Post by Rowls » Wed Jun 24, 2020 11:34 am

Down_Rover wrote:
Wed Jun 24, 2020 11:30 am
How can you say the situation has been handled badly? Were you in the room throughout the negotiations and know it was the Club's fault. Maybe it was the player(s)?
How can I say the situation has been handled badly? I can't.

That's why I qualified it by saying it sounds like it's been handled badly.

I'm going off Sean Dyche's public press conferences and scarcely hidden contempt for how it's been handled.
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Post by Chester Perry » Wed Jun 24, 2020 11:43 am

Rowls wrote:
Wed Jun 24, 2020 11:34 am
How can I say the situation has been handled badly? I can't.

That's why I qualified it by saying it sounds like it's been handled badly.

I'm going off Sean Dyche's public press conferences and scarcely hidden contempt for how it's been handled.
If you are going off Sean's utterances in public, I am wondering why no one has been talking about what he has said about our finances in the last week - he keeps telling us we are in a strong financial position, though I am yet to be convinced.

My take is that our financial position has been weakened severely, not critically but definitely severely. All of that will be down to cash flow, and even when we do get the final payments for this season and the first for next season in July/August we will be in a weaker cash position than last summer and budgeting for less income too.

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Post by LoveCurryPies » Wed Jun 24, 2020 11:55 am

Sure Sean was frustrated. However, we were in the middle of Coronvirus and the season might not have restarted and indeed the next season might have been played behind closed doors. Mike & the Board couldn't afford to risk the Club financially.

There is a very real danger that come 4th July, people will go out party and mix like it is all over and create a second wave. That wave could be larger than the first.

Yesterday, the Government said only 1 in 1,700 now have it. Sounds great.....but that means there are currently 39,000 people going to supermarkets, traveling on public transport, etc.

Stay safe, folks!

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Post by Paul Waine » Wed Jun 24, 2020 12:07 pm

A little information about situation at another Premier League club - The Times, today:

Everton will reduce wage bill by £1m a month by offloading fringe players

Everton are set to reduce their wage bill by about £1 million a month by jettisoning the fringe players in Carlo Ancelotti’s squad.

The club have confirmed that Maarten Stekelenburg, the 37-year-old Dutch goalkeeper, will leave at the end of the season and they have until today to inform striker Oumar Niasse and defender Cuco Martina, both 30, whether they will also finish the season before being released.

With Morgan Schneiderlin, the 30-year-old midfielder, joining Nice in France for a cut-price fee, Everton will sever ties with a group of players at a time when financial fair play rules cast a shadow on rebuilding plans.

Luke Garbutt, the 27-year-old left back who had been on loan at Ipswich Town, is also out of contract. That quintet earned about £250,000 a week between them.

Everton’s wages-to-turnover ratio had been 85 per cent, according to the latest club accounts published in January, with salary costs having increased from £146 million in 2018 to £160 million last year. The club made a £30 million profit in 2017, a £13 million loss the following year and then a record loss of £111.9 million.

Premier League clubs are not allowed to accumulate losses of more than £105 million over a three-year period and so, while Everton were under that threshold, they must be mindful of profit and sustainability.

For that reason there will be a continued emphasis on cutting back an imbalanced squad, with the director of football, Marcel Brands, charged with selling the likes of Sandro Ramírez, Yannick Bolasie and Muhamed Besic, who are returning from loan deals.

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The way I see it: 1) seems like there will be a number of ooc players looking for new clubs; 2) anyone thinking that Bardsley's and Hendrick's agents will have kept them informed of the situation at Everton? 3) are there any of the Everton releases that could be an upgrade for the Clarets?

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Post by Chester Perry » Wed Jun 24, 2020 12:25 pm

Paul Waine wrote:
Wed Jun 24, 2020 12:07 pm
A little information about situation at another Premier League club - The Times, today:

Everton will reduce wage bill by £1m a month by offloading fringe players

Everton are set to reduce their wage bill by about £1 million a month by jettisoning the fringe players in Carlo Ancelotti’s squad.

The club have confirmed that Maarten Stekelenburg, the 37-year-old Dutch goalkeeper, will leave at the end of the season and they have until today to inform striker Oumar Niasse and defender Cuco Martina, both 30, whether they will also finish the season before being released.

With Morgan Schneiderlin, the 30-year-old midfielder, joining Nice in France for a cut-price fee, Everton will sever ties with a group of players at a time when financial fair play rules cast a shadow on rebuilding plans.

Luke Garbutt, the 27-year-old left back who had been on loan at Ipswich Town, is also out of contract. That quintet earned about £250,000 a week between them.

Everton’s wages-to-turnover ratio had been 85 per cent, according to the latest club accounts published in January, with salary costs having increased from £146 million in 2018 to £160 million last year. The club made a £30 million profit in 2017, a £13 million loss the following year and then a record loss of £111.9 million.

Premier League clubs are not allowed to accumulate losses of more than £105 million over a three-year period and so, while Everton were under that threshold, they must be mindful of profit and sustainability.

For that reason there will be a continued emphasis on cutting back an imbalanced squad, with the director of football, Marcel Brands, charged with selling the likes of Sandro Ramírez, Yannick Bolasie and Muhamed Besic, who are returning from loan deals.

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The way I see it: 1) seems like there will be a number of ooc players looking for new clubs; 2) anyone thinking that Bardsley's and Hendrick's agents will have kept them informed of the situation at Everton? 3) are there any of the Everton releases that could be an upgrade for the Clarets?
We have an Everton fan who comes on the board mainly the MMT thread and he will be well pleased with the news, he didn't think Schneiderlin would leave this summer because of his huge wages

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Post by bfcjg » Wed Jun 24, 2020 1:25 pm

Brilliant

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