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Re: SD
Is Stan available?
Next Manager odds
If Dyche leaves this is the running for the next manager. Some scary looking possibilities!!
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Re: SD
If I remember correctly SD has a 10 million release clause in his contract. If he is poached and takes Tarks with him, the Club will potentially put 50/60 million in the kitty in total. Perhaps that is MG's game?
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Re: Next Manager odds
If I remove any that I wouldn't want managing us, and remove any who wouldn't come to us anyway, as we don't have enough money for them to throw at the wall... there's nobody left.
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Re: Next Manager odds
It would not be Woan, he'll go with Dyche. The rest are just the common names from lazy bookies. Personally wouldn't mind Sabri Lamouchi from Forest, made them hard to beat in Championship and plays similar set up to us now.
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Re: Next Manager odds
If Sam Allardyce was to end up at Turf Moor, then I think that would be the end for me. I detest the guy with his private self profiting deals. He should have been barred from management after Panorama exposed his shady deals at Bolton, but to be allowed to do it again with England and still be able to manage at all, is frankly disgusting and proves that corruption is perfectly acceptable in English football.
If Sean does leave, and I don't think he will, then Bristol City's Lee Johnson seems like the most likely if the Burnley board follows the usual pattern.
If Sean does leave, and I don't think he will, then Bristol City's Lee Johnson seems like the most likely if the Burnley board follows the usual pattern.
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Re: Next Manager odds
I could see us going for someone like Lee Johnson or Neil Warnock.
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Re: SD
Just reading through this thread it appears that someone decided to tweak e harmony and ebay with a bit of HR predictive analytics and come up with a list of footballers.
I wonder if anyone actually goes out to scout a player nowadays?
I wonder if anyone actually goes out to scout a player nowadays?
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Re: Next Manager odds
Not Warnock after what he did at Sheffield. No way.FactualFrank wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 5:22 pmI could see us going for someone like Lee Johnson or Neil Warnock.
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Warnock, with Stan as his assistant. Oh, hang on a minute...
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I always said the same about joey Barton, but I still turned up, at the end of the day we are burnley fans, not Sam or joey fans.Gordaleman wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 5:18 pmIf Sam Allardyce was to end up at Turf Moor, then I think that would be the end for me. I detest the guy with his private self profiting deals. He should have been barred from management after Panorama exposed his shady deals at Bolton, but to be allowed to do it again with England and still be able to manage at all, is frankly disgusting and proves that corruption is perfectly acceptable in English football.
If Sean does leave, and I don't think he will, then Bristol City's Lee Johnson seems like the most likely if the Burnley board follows the usual pattern.
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Re: Next Manager odds
So you don't want Sam Allardyce who keeps teams in this league, is a man manager like Sean and has a lot of similar characteristics. But you'd like Lee Johnson who the Bristol City fans would be pleased to see the back of.Gordaleman wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 5:18 pmIf Sam Allardyce was to end up at Turf Moor, then I think that would be the end for me. I detest the guy with his private self profiting deals. He should have been barred from management after Panorama exposed his shady deals at Bolton, but to be allowed to do it again with England and still be able to manage at all, is frankly disgusting and proves that corruption is perfectly acceptable in English football.
If Sean does leave, and I don't think he will, then Bristol City's Lee Johnson seems like the most likely if the Burnley board follows the usual pattern.
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Joey Barton might have had a repution, but he wasn't corrupt. I've always liked the honest way that Burnley has generally been run over the years. Appointing Allardyce would change all that and it wouldn't be for me.
By the way, I didn't want Barton either, but he turned out to be a gem.
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Re: SD
Given that Pochettino is totally unrealistic, there is one name on that list who I would be confident could keep us in the Premier League.
That man is BFS.
I agree he wouldn't be universally popular, but he'd have my backing.
That man is BFS.
I agree he wouldn't be universally popular, but he'd have my backing.
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Re: SD
So how would any parting happen, if sadly, it has come to that? It's a mess.
We can't afford to sack him. If he wants to go, would he have to resign? Would that mean he owes us for breach of contract.? Anything else would be stupid.
If him and MG can no longer work together then I suppose a comprise parting could be attempted, but financially it woukd be bad for us wouldn't it?
We need to watch out for being ripped off here. If, as I suspect, SD has been tapped up, the new Club, SD and his agent could stitch us up.
If someone wants him, which I think is behind the outburst, are they trying to avoid paying the compo.
We can't afford to sack him. If he wants to go, would he have to resign? Would that mean he owes us for breach of contract.? Anything else would be stupid.
If him and MG can no longer work together then I suppose a comprise parting could be attempted, but financially it woukd be bad for us wouldn't it?
We need to watch out for being ripped off here. If, as I suspect, SD has been tapped up, the new Club, SD and his agent could stitch us up.
If someone wants him, which I think is behind the outburst, are they trying to avoid paying the compo.
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What I find hard to understand is that if Bardsley thought that Sean was leaving, why would he agree to another season with us. After so many consecutive seasons in the top flight surely he wouldn't want to get relegated in what could be his final year?
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Re: SD
Could it be for the money ?Conroysleftfoot wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 6:02 pmWhat I find hard to understand is that if Bardsley thought that Sean was leaving, why would he agree to another season with us. After so many consecutive seasons in the top flight surely he wouldn't want to get relegated in what could be his final year?
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Re: SD
This would be a horrible self-inflicted wound. I don’t think what Dyche is saying is unreasonable. Plan A has worked well but it needs to evolve if we are to survive at this level. From his public utterances Dyche is not seeking to break the model but he just wants more flexibility and to be able to take more calculated risks. However, it looks like MG has turned this into a battle of wills. League 1 here we come.
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Re: SD
I've been patient, but Rigg has offered square root of....... so far......
I don't normally bet, but if Dyche goes there is only one place we are heading
I don't normally bet, but if Dyche goes there is only one place we are heading
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Re: SD
It was on 17 May this year that the Daily Mail first carried the story that Crystal Palace had identified Sean Dyche as their main Summer transfer target along with James Tarkowski and Dwight McNeil. The Daily Mail have continued to print stories throughout the past few weeks and months strongly hinting at the departure of SD from Turf Moor and of unrest at the club and a growing rift between manager and chairman. Peter Crouch is a columnist for that paper and is a close personal friend of SD who recently appeared on Crouch's podcast. I suppose the next step is SD replacing "fast dad".
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Re: SD
But he is being unreasonable in making it so public. He is effectively saying here I am come and get me. His timing stinks. The fuss over 3 players that were always going is a fake .Culmclaret wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 6:16 pmThis would be a horrible self-inflicted wound. I don’t think what Dyche is saying is unreasonable. Plan A has worked well but it needs to evolve if we are to survive at this level. From his public utterances Dyche is not seeking to break the model but he just wants more flexibility and to be able to take more calculated risks. However, it looks like MG has turned this into a battle of wills. League 1 here we come.
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Re: SD
Heard Joey Barton on Radio Lancs saying he wouldn't want to manage again after Fleetwood, he would rather go into a coaching role somewhere
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Re: Next Manager odds
Is Lee Johnson corrupt? Allardyce certainly is. Johnsons's certainly affordable. Do you think Alladyce is?ClaretTony wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 5:36 pmSo you don't want Sam Allardyce who keeps teams in this league, is a man manager like Sean and has a lot of similar characteristics. But you'd like Lee Johnson who the Bristol City fans would be pleased to see the back of.
Actually, I don't want either because we already have a very good manager who I think is staying, as I've said before.
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Re: SD
kentonclaret wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 6:23 pmIt was on 17 May this year that the Daily Mail first carried the story that Crystal Palace had identified Sean Dyche as their main Summer transfer target along with James Tarkowski and Dwight McNeil. The Daily Mail have continued to print stories throughout the past few weeks and months strongly hinting at the departure of SD from Turf Moor and of unrest at the club and a growing rift between manager and chairman. Peter Crouch is a columnist for that paper and is a close personal friend of SD who recently appeared on Crouch's podcast. I suppose the next step is SD replacing "fast dad".
All true except the link with Palace is at least a year old.
Dyche has been linked with so many clubs is a shock to find him still here
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And there in one line could be the biggest issue that we have, perhaps why Dyche is at the end of his tether.ClaretTony wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:10 pmAt most clubs you would say yes, but at most clubs you don't have both the technical director and manager reporting to the chairman. Seems the chairman does everything at the club now so I suspect he'll lead any recruitment of a manager.
Our recruitment hasn’t been great, out best manager for years is looking like he wants out and we’ve lost a very well respected Chief Exec.
I’m becoming less and less convinced my Garlick.
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Re: SD
Let's enjoy the game tonight, guys. Let's see what happens after we've finished the season.
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Don't worry. Sean's going nowhere. He's just flexing his muscles and trying to get more money to spend. That's a big part of his job after all.
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Re: SD
No point worrying about it because it is football and managers, players, employees all move on, in fact, even fans move on and that will probably happen again if SD leaves. We are were we are so enjoy the present becausee none of us know what the future holds.
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Re: SD
Did Mr Baldwin's departure have anything to do with his working relationship with the Chairman ?
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Re: SD
Big Sam would be the man for me.
He has the experience and man management skills to keep the squad together and keep Burnley in the Premier league on a small budget.
Warnock and Johnson are you having a laugh?
Warnock is passed it and never kept a side in the Premier league. Johnson would be another Laws type appointment
He has the experience and man management skills to keep the squad together and keep Burnley in the Premier league on a small budget.
Warnock and Johnson are you having a laugh?
Warnock is passed it and never kept a side in the Premier league. Johnson would be another Laws type appointment
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So you want the Clarets to be associated with corruption eh? Have you no pride in the team?Top Claret wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:06 pmBig Sam would be the man for me.
He has the experience and man management skills to keep the squad together and keep Burnley in the Premier league on a small budget.
Warnock and Johnson are you having a laugh?
Warnock is passed it and never kept a side in the Premier league. Johnson would be another Laws type appointment
With that appointment, I'd be wondering all the time about where the transfer kitty was actually going.
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Staying up will be hard with our budget regardless of who is the manager.
If we go down the unimaginative route of appointing “names” like Allardyce for the short-term, they’ll make short-term decisions and in my opinion it’ll only hasten our demise.
If we go down the unimaginative route of appointing “names” like Allardyce for the short-term, they’ll make short-term decisions and in my opinion it’ll only hasten our demise.
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Re: SD
All transactions go through the chairman so you can't blame the manager if we pay through the nose.Gordaleman wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:12 pmSo you want the Clarets to be associated with corruption eh? Have you no pride in the team?
With that appointment, I'd be wondering all the time about where the transfer kitty was actually going.
Sam as a great track record in the Premier league and would suit us down to the ground, he would be liked by our top players and would win over our fans in a heart beat.
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Appointing Allardyce is pretty much the only thing that would keep me from attending.
I don't want that fat, greasy, repulsive, corrupt crook anywhere near my club. Horrible man.
I don't want that fat, greasy, repulsive, corrupt crook anywhere near my club. Horrible man.
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Yes, I'm sure the actual transfer fee would go through the chairman, but private deals with agents might push the price up enough for him to make a few bob. That's what him and his son did at Bolton as exposed by Panorama. Then of course there's the England scandal. I don't want Burnley's name dragged through the mud, thank you very much.Top Claret wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:18 pmAll transactions go through the chairman so you can't blame the manager if we pay through the nose.
Sam as a great track record in the Premier league and would suit us down to the ground, he would be liked by our top players and would win over our fans in a heart beat.
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I'm not so sure about that.Top Claret wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:18 pmSam as a great track record in the Premier league and would suit us down to the ground, he would be liked by our top players and would win over our fans in a heart beat.
And does he have a track record of bringing through young players? Now we've upgraded our academy we should be looking at a manager committed to improving our youth teams and development squad (if SD was to leave, of course).
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We‘ve struggled in some windows and I think that’s a factor in Dyche’s frustrations.
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I’m certainly not suggesting that - I’m not in a position to know. What does look a little strange is the recruitment of his replacement - he doesn’t appear to have much experience in such a role.randomclaret2 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:01 pmDid Mr Baldwin's departure have anything to do with his working relationship with the Chairman ?
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Re: SD
Dyche will leave when he leaves and there’s nothing we can do except be grateful for where our club is now.
The strange fact is that Dyche is still an untried manager. All he has had, is making the best on a restricted budget. Given a less restricted purse will show what he is really made of, he may turn out to be brilliant but there’s no guarantee.
The strange fact is that Dyche is still an untried manager. All he has had, is making the best on a restricted budget. Given a less restricted purse will show what he is really made of, he may turn out to be brilliant but there’s no guarantee.
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Re: SD
Wanting Allardyce is just desperation. The man is a complete crook with the England stuff and what he did with his agent and Ravel Morrison. No manager we get we'll keep us up so the best we can hope for is a rebuild.
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Wasnt the mistake with Howe that we allowed him to appoint his own staff for the youth team.?boatshed bill wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:24 pmI'm not so sure about that.
And does he have a track record of bringing through young players? Now we've upgraded our academy we should be looking at a manager committed to improving our youth teams and development squad (if SD was to leave, of course).
I'm not sure, McNeil aside, Dyche has had much input with the youth team. Perhaps it's better if the first team manager doesn't get involved.
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Re: SD
I think people should pay close attention to what Dyche has said on this subject.
By that I mean he’s not denied a rift, he’s not denied the fact he wants to leave and he has said he’s ‘reflecting’.
I also think that Dyche is a very shrewd media player who has kept his name alive during the pandemic for...reasons. He is always interviewing/shopping himself in some manner, and the way this information has sprung in the media is not by accident - there’s every chance it’s an agent led leak with SD’s backing. I also find the way a rather innocuous red top story has become so well known in the TV punditry world within the space of a week to the point Gabby Logan poses the question tonight to Dixon/Morrison, “Will Dyche be there next season?”.
It feels very much like a combined effort from both Sean Dyche and some contacts of his within the media world to get his name out there as available and desperate to leave.
People can think I’m being a pessimist on this and of course I hope I’m totally wrong, but that’s my read on the situation. I think the reasoning (if it’s just Jeff going) is a bit extreme when we’re in the middle of a pandemic and don’t fully understand its financial impact to us, but maybe Dyche has seen this as something to use as leverage/an opportunity to justify getting out without being seen as a quitter and ruining his C.V (as yes, I believe he could even walk).
By that I mean he’s not denied a rift, he’s not denied the fact he wants to leave and he has said he’s ‘reflecting’.
I also think that Dyche is a very shrewd media player who has kept his name alive during the pandemic for...reasons. He is always interviewing/shopping himself in some manner, and the way this information has sprung in the media is not by accident - there’s every chance it’s an agent led leak with SD’s backing. I also find the way a rather innocuous red top story has become so well known in the TV punditry world within the space of a week to the point Gabby Logan poses the question tonight to Dixon/Morrison, “Will Dyche be there next season?”.
It feels very much like a combined effort from both Sean Dyche and some contacts of his within the media world to get his name out there as available and desperate to leave.
People can think I’m being a pessimist on this and of course I hope I’m totally wrong, but that’s my read on the situation. I think the reasoning (if it’s just Jeff going) is a bit extreme when we’re in the middle of a pandemic and don’t fully understand its financial impact to us, but maybe Dyche has seen this as something to use as leverage/an opportunity to justify getting out without being seen as a quitter and ruining his C.V (as yes, I believe he could even walk).
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Very likely right there.jedi_master wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:52 pmI think people should pay close attention to what Dyche has said on this subject.
By that I mean he’s not denied a rift, he’s not denied the fact he wants to leave and he has said he’s ‘reflecting’.
I also think that Dyche is a very shrewd media player who has kept his name alive during the pandemic for...reasons. He is always interviewing/shopping himself in some manner, and the way this information has sprung in the media is not by accident - there’s every chance it’s an agent led leak with SD’s backing. I also find the way a rather innocuous red top story has become so well known in the TV punditry world within the space of a week to the point Gabby Logan poses the question tonight to Dixon/Morrison, “Will Dyche be there next season?”.
It feels very much like a combined effort from both Sean Dyche and some contacts of his within the media world to get his name out there as available and desperate to leave.
People can think I’m being a pessimist on this and of course I hope I’m totally wrong, but that’s my read on the situation. I think the reasoning (if it’s just Jeff going) is a bit extreme when we’re in the middle of a pandemic and don’t fully understand its financial impact to us, but maybe Dyche has seen this as something to use as leverage/an opportunity to justify getting out without being seen as a quitter and ruining his C.V (as yes, I believe he could even walk).
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Well that’s a shock. Not particularly historical and no under age. The question is when you’ve had as many women has him and worked (still works?) in porn why the fck does he turn to rape? Bizarre (unless he is innocent as he claims).huw.Y.WattfromWare wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 4:45 pmHere you go.
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/entertain ... 269474001/
He is an ugly mother though ain’t he.
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He might like something a bit tighter than he’s used to?houseboy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 9:02 pmWell that’s a shock. Not particularly historical and no under age. The question is when you’ve had as many women has him and worked (still works?) in porn why the fck does he turn to rape? Bizarre (unless he is innocent as he claims).
He is an ugly mother though ain’t he.
I remember his early stuff when he wasn’t as well endowed as he allegedly is now. Can you have a penis extension and how much?, as I check my bank account.
He is definitely a two bagger for any lady of class.