OGS: correct or excuses for his failure to land silverware

[tiger76]

Ole Gunnar Solskjaer says it is harder for Man Utd to win trophies nowhttps://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53198768

There's some truth to his claim in my view, but when your the boss of Man Utd, trophies are a prerequisite of the job description, of course Ole could yet land the EL and the FA Cup, now one or both of those in their trophy cabinet, and he'd go a long way to assuaging his doubters, but if neither land in his lap, then the pressure will only increase, TBF it doesn't help his cause, that Liverpool have suddenly awoken from their long slumber.

[NewClaret]

It’s true, but not something he should be saying as a United manager.

[SlidingTackle]

Yes, both.

[Sheedyclaret]

Abit defeatist especially with a sky high wage bill they aren't getting value for money

[Colburn_Claret]

Just being realistic.
What's the point of blowing up your chances, the fans would only use it against him. SD goes out of his way to keep the fans grounded, every success is then a bonus.
It doesn't mean OGS has given up.

[Sheedyclaret]

With a 300m odd quid wage bill to staggering amount

[Quickenthetempo]

Ole also said De Gea was the best keeper in the world.

Del Boy spoke more truths.

[Dyched]

He’s right. It’s harder now to get in the top 4 than it was to win the PL. I commented on the Arsenal thread last week saying I didn’t think they were ever really that good. 3 PL titles in an era 2 competed for it to me is crap compared to how titles Chelsea and Man City now have. People would say those 2 bought it but all they did was spend to get squads equally as good as Arsenal/Man Utd. They were never miles ahead of those. They then went and won (Chelsea 5, Man City 4) in the era where more teams are competing for it. So Ole is right, Man U then had to compete with 1 club maybe another 1 each season having a good year but not consistently the same club improving. Now you’ve got Liverpool, Chelsea, Spurs(ish), Man City, Arsenal(ish) competing. You need 90’s title winning form to get top 4.

[Funkydrummer]

Who gives a sh!t ?

The longer they languish, the better.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

It's only harder when teams don't evolve to keep up.
Utd haven't really evolved much since Fergie left.

They've made several poor signings, including Pogba considering what he's cost.

[tiger76]

He’s right. It’s harder now to get in the top 4 than it was to win the PL. I commented on the Arsenal thread last week saying I didn’t think they were ever really that good. 3 PL titles in an era 2 competed for it to me is crap compared to how titles Chelsea and Man City now have. People would say those 2 bought it but all they did was spend to get squads equally as good as Arsenal/Man Utd. They were never miles ahead of those. They then went and won (Chelsea 5, Man City 4) in the era where more teams are competing for it. So Ole is right, Man U then had to compete with 1 club maybe another 1 each season having a good year but not consistently the same club improving. Now you’ve got Liverpool, Chelsea, Spurs(ish), Man City, Arsenal(ish) competing. You need 90’s title winning form to get top 4.

Well that might be true, but i'd replace the North London teams with Leicester and Wolves, both Arsenal and Spurs are going backwards at a rate of knots, whereas the former two are building young quality squads, and certainly in Wolves case they have power to add if needed, i can't even see Arsenal qualifying for Europe this season, certainly not through their league placing anyhow, they might still lift the FA Cup, but considering the calibre of sides remaining i seriously doubt they'll even manage that,

Liverpool & City have set the benchmark, and both Leicester & Chelsea in particular will improve next season, so yes even to get into the top 4 now is tough, and with Everton showing ambition and getting a top coach in Ancelotti, they'll be hoping to challenge next season, so life for Ole's not going to get any easier, maybe if he stopped wasting 80 million on duds like Maguire it might help his cause though.

[Foulthrow]

It's only harder when teams don't evolve to keep up.
Utd haven't really evolved much since Fergie left.

They've made several poor signings, including Pogba considering what he's cost.

Never mind the cost. Even if they got him a free the bloke is injured half the time. And when he does play he only bothers to try every now and then. Shocking attitude.

[tiger76]

Never mind the cost. Even if they got him a free the bloke is injured half the time. And when he does play he only bothers to try every now and then. Shocking attitude.

I haven't been following Utd that closely, but Pogba by all accounts had a good game against Sheff Utd, that's fine and dandy, but how many good games has he had for Utd this season, when you spend £90m on a player, and add the wages that also entails, you expect much more, i totally agree his attitude stinks, and from Utd's POV the sooner they can get rid of him the better, he's a spoilt prima donna who found it easy in Italy, and thought he'd just stroll back to the PL, and find it easy here, well Mr Pogba you've had a rude awakening, there was a reason Fergie got rid, and now everybody can see for themselves exactly what that reason was.

Compare him to other top midfielders at City & Liverpool, and look at the work rate, even the other night against us at 5-0 up, City still put the effort in to win the ball back, that's the mark of winners, and why both have had the success they've enjoyed. Even Messi and Ronaldo do their work for the team, it's impossible in the modern game not to have everyone putting in a shift.

[Zlatan]

SD is waiting in wings with us until OGS gets potted, mark my words...

[GodIsADeeJay81]

SD is waiting in wings with us until OGS gets potted, mark my words...

Honestly I'd expect to see that Utd team put in more of a shift if Dyche was manager there.