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Ayew

Post by conyoviejo » Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:04 pm

More I see it,the worse it looked. Should have been sent off..

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Re: Ayew

Post by Vegas Claret » Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:05 pm

VAR should be sent off
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Re: Ayew

Post by boatshed bill » Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:05 pm

is crap.

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Re: Ayew

Post by ksrclaret » Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:06 pm

Did you see that shot he had near the end that nearly took out the corner flag?

Absolute shite he is.

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Re: Ayew

Post by Stproc » Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:07 pm

Red card. Simple.

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Re: Ayew

Post by Bosscat » Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:07 pm

Ayew definitely should have been OFF ....

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Re: Ayew

Post by Foulthrow » Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:08 pm

The ref knew it was more of a punishment to leave him on.
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Re: Ayew

Post by DCWat » Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:09 pm

How can VAR not get that right, it’s a joke!
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Re: Ayew

Post by Silkyskills1 » Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:09 pm

Very straightforward decision and Scott got it wrong. A nailed on red card.

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Re: Ayew

Post by warksclaret » Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:10 pm

He looked up to see where Brownhill was and elbowed him with intent. I fear one of our guys would have been sent off for similar. Not even a yellow

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Re: Ayew

Post by BabylonClaret » Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:10 pm

Its nasty and deliberate. They really should take retrospective action because that VAR ref bottled it.

Maybe Ash will put one on him next season

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Re: Ayew

Post by Tribesmen » Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:11 pm

Yep the longer it went on the more i knew he would be sent off , yer right .

Did think he would pop up and score at the death just loved his shot that aimed at the corner flag

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Re: Ayew

Post by giveusaB » Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:12 pm

Graham Scott on var...clueless
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Re: Ayew

Post by Rileybobs » Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:13 pm

Looked a straight red in real time. Looked even worse on replays, particularly when you see Ayew eyeing up his shot.

The ref ballsed up by not awarding a FK to Ayew which is I suspect is why he didn’t show him the red.

Pathetic for that to make the review room and not be given. Just glad that the player is total bobbins and didn’t end up costing us.

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Re: Ayew

Post by dermotdermot » Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:13 pm

Definitely should have gone. I cannot understand that one at all. The referee looked as if he had already made his mind up before the VAR was implemented.

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Re: Ayew

Post by Blackrod » Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:14 pm

Thought he was lucky to stay on initially and hadn’t seen the look he made. Looked and lined up his arm then the force of it on top. Definite Red.

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Re: Ayew

Post by chekhov » Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:15 pm

Not at all clear cut, and that's having seen it at least 20 times on Amazon.
Let's move on shall we?

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Re: Ayew

Post by Silkyskills1 » Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:19 pm

chekhov wrote:
Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:15 pm
Not at all clear cut, and that's having seen it at least 20 times on Amazon.
Let's move on shall we?
How much clearer would you prefer it to be? Had that been Barnes it would have been a straight red from the ref and no one would have complained.

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Re: Ayew

Post by Rowls » Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:21 pm

Ref should have sent him straight off. Didn't need referring to VAR and if anybody knows what the VAR ref was watching 20 times when he replayed it please enlighten us.

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Re: Ayew

Post by boatshed bill » Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:23 pm

Ref did us a favour keeping him on.

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Re: Ayew

Post by martin_p » Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:24 pm

chekhov wrote:
Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:15 pm
Not at all clear cut, and that's having seen it at least 20 times on Amazon.
Let's move on shall we?
He looked at Brownhill and thrust his forearm in the direction of his head with significant force. I’m not sure how much clearer it needs to be! Fortunately it didn’t cost us.

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Re: Ayew

Post by chekhov » Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:25 pm

Silkyskills1 wrote:
Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:19 pm
How much clearer would you prefer it to be? Had that been Barnes it would have been a straight red from the ref and no one would have complained.
All I can say is I'm with Ally McCoist on this one!

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Re: Ayew

Post by Cajun » Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:26 pm

Definitely intentional and dangerous. Should have gone.

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Re: Ayew

Post by Longsidebogs » Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:26 pm

When are they going to allow the on field ref to go to the screen? Red card all day long. But not if you are Burnley! They bloody hate us!
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Re: Ayew

Post by Buxtonclaret » Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:26 pm

Absolutely no doubt.
Straight red.

Had he hit a player from City/Liverpool/Man UTD et al, he'd have gone.


We got penalty awarded against us v City via VAR that was as big a surprise to City as it was to us.
Yet VAR doesn't give that???
Not that VAR needed to really.
It was right in front of the ref.

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Re: Ayew

Post by Rileybobs » Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:27 pm

chekhov wrote:
Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:25 pm
All I can say is I'm with Ally McCoist on this one!
I don’t think even Ally McCoist was with Ally McCoist by the end. He’d just dig himself into a deep hole.

When Dermot Gallagher publicly disagrees with a refereeing decision you know it was wrong.

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Re: Ayew

Post by dpinsussex » Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:35 pm

From a referee perspective my opinion was it should have been Red.

This is how I get to that decision.

Looked at the player to make sure he knew where he was
Swung fore arm with excessive force in to the players face.
The fingers on the hand was clenched indicating intent.
If he had an open hand then I would have accepted a yellow card for reckless play
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Re: Ayew

Post by fidelcastro » Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:38 pm

Remember when people were saying that VAR would clear up incidents like this?

:lol:

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Re: Ayew

Post by jojomk1 » Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:45 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:27 pm

When Dermot Gallagher publicly disagrees with a refereeing decision you know it was wrong.
Exactly

Not quite as bad as Mitrovic on Sat but there was no VAR then

Interesting to see if he gets charged tomorrow

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Re: Ayew

Post by SalisburyClaret » Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:49 pm

Brownhill should’ve screamed and rolled over 10 times. Imagine if it happened to Zaha

Unbelievable not to give this, not the slightest sliver of doubt

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Re: Ayew

Post by levraiclaret » Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:50 pm

chekhov wrote:
Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:15 pm
Not at all clear cut, and that's having seen it at least 20 times on Amazon.
Let's move on shall we?
No
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Re: Ayew

Post by dpinsussex » Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:51 pm

jojomk1 wrote:
Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:45 pm
Exactly

Not quite as bad as Mitrovic on Sat but there was no VAR then

Interesting to see if he gets charged tomorrow
He wont get charged retrospectively as the incident was seen by the referee (and var)

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Re: Ayew

Post by Gp8419 » Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:51 pm

No doubt if it was us he would of been straight off.I think I’m in the minority but that wasn’t a red card that,I don’t think he went to do it at all personally

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Re: Ayew

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Jun 29, 2020 11:08 pm

DCWat wrote:
Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:09 pm
How can VAR not get that right, it’s a joke!
Because it's Graham Scott
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Re: Ayew

Post by Bin Ont Turf » Mon Jun 29, 2020 11:11 pm

I'm just wondering if they looked at it from the point of view that he was trying hold him off in the chest, but caught his mush, therefore an accident.

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Re: Ayew

Post by NewClaret » Mon Jun 29, 2020 11:11 pm

Hope there’s some retrospective action.

As it happens, probably helped us. They’d have just put their 10 men behind the ball and Ed May have struggled to break them down.

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Re: Ayew

Post by burnmark » Mon Jun 29, 2020 11:12 pm

McCoist’s comments reminded me of this:

https://betting.betfair.com/football/th ... 5-723.html

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Re: Ayew

Post by basil6345789 » Mon Jun 29, 2020 11:18 pm

Steve Logan style forearm smash.
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Re: Ayew

Post by Goodclaret » Mon Jun 29, 2020 11:26 pm

dpinsussex wrote:
Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:35 pm
From a referee perspective my opinion was it should have been Red.

This is how I get to that decision.

Looked at the player to make sure he knew where he was
Swung fore arm with excessive force in to the players face.
The fingers on the hand was clenched indicating intent.
If he had an open hand then I would have accepted a yellow card for reckless play
The quick glance at Brownhill and the clenched fist showed me all I needed to see to know it was a red card. You also have to take a look at Ayew's face immediately after - he looks totally worried. He knows it's going to be seen for what it was and he is going to walk.

Well, until the incompetence of Graham Scott intervenes of course.

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Re: Ayew

Post by chekhov » Mon Jun 29, 2020 11:26 pm

levraiclaret wrote:
Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:50 pm
No
Hey levraiclaret, we won the game!

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Re: Ayew

Post by tiger76 » Mon Jun 29, 2020 11:29 pm

BabylonClaret wrote:
Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:10 pm
Its nasty and deliberate. They really should take retrospective action because that VAR ref bottled it.

Maybe Ash will put one on him next season
In light of Mitrovic's punishment he should be looking at a 3 game ban, but idk if they can review it retrospectively, as the ref and VAR have already come to a decision, albeit the incorrect decision.

We had the last laugh anyway by taking the 3 points.

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Re: Ayew

Post by boatshed bill » Mon Jun 29, 2020 11:29 pm

Shouldn't the question be "how does this clown earn a PL wage?" Utterly useless...can't even hit Brownhill hard enough to get a red card! :D

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Re: Ayew

Post by FCBurnley » Mon Jun 29, 2020 11:33 pm

Ref and VAR simply bottled out of making a straightforward decision.

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Re: Ayew

Post by tiger76 » Mon Jun 29, 2020 11:33 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Mon Jun 29, 2020 11:29 pm
Shouldn't the question be "how does this clown earn a PL wage?" Utterly useless...can't even hit Brownhill hard enough to get a red card! :D
He's easily their top scorer that's why he earns a wage, and he's being linked with Chelsea, so Lampard must see something in him.

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Re: Ayew

Post by boatshed bill » Mon Jun 29, 2020 11:35 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Mon Jun 29, 2020 11:33 pm
He's easily their top scorer that's why he earns a wage, and he's being linked with Chelsea, so Lampard must see something in him.
Amazing. I think he's utter garbage. Are all his goals tap-ins?

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Re: Ayew

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:54 am

tiger76 wrote:
Mon Jun 29, 2020 11:33 pm
He's easily their top scorer that's why he earns a wage, and he's being linked with Chelsea, so Lampard must see something in him.
Ayew is linked with Chelsea?

He's not even a 1 in 5 yet he's meant to be a forward, I'm pretty sure Chelsea have someone better in their youth team...

He's perfect for Palace who seem to like low scoring forwards like him and Benteke

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Re: Ayew

Post by tiger76 » Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:22 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:54 am
Ayew is linked with Chelsea?

He's not even a 1 in 5 yet he's meant to be a forward, I'm pretty sure Chelsea have someone better in their youth team...

He's perfect for Palace who seem to like low scoring forwards like him and Benteke
It raised my eyebrows as well, but the story does appear to have legs, it's to be hoped for Chelsea's sake that they don't decide to waste a good amount on Ayew, given that they've signed Werner from Leipzig it's not an area they need to strengthen.

Benteke's a funny one, he had that purple patch at Villa, that earned him the big money move to Liverpool, and ever since then his career has gone backwards.

Ourselves and Palace are often compared, but the major difference is we have forwards that'll contribute goals, Barnes & Wood usually notch around 10 each a season, and Jay's always good for a few, Palace got into plenty of promising areas last night, 2nd half especially, but they never really threatened to score.

It's credit to Roy that they're as high as they are, given they've managed only a meagre 12 home goals in 16 games, and if Zaha does go this summer you do worry about their long term prospects.
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Re: Ayew

Post by Firthy » Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:45 pm

Kust seen it os Sky highlights. Wasn't an elbow but swung his arm at Brownhill and caught him in his face with his forearm. Definitely a yellow and a deserved red depending on which team you support.

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Re: Ayew

Post by ecc » Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:15 pm

I couldn't believe it. I've lost track of whether VAR decisions can be overturned after the match i.e. in this case can he be given a suspension or will it all be forgotten?

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Re: Ayew

Post by bobinho » Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:22 pm

chekhov wrote:
Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:25 pm
All I can say is I'm with Ally McCoist on this one!
So you’ll be changing your mind in a minute then?

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