Will you be going to the pub tomorrow?

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Re: Will you be going to the pub tomorrow?

Post by Silkyskills1 » Fri Jul 03, 2020 2:42 pm

karatekid wrote:
Fri Jul 03, 2020 12:18 pm
Yes.

Family gatherings at your home
BBQ's in the garden with friends
Walks in our glorious countryside
Taking the kids out to the seaside
A bottle or two in your own home

Eventually these will become the norm again and I will look forward to doing them far more than a trip to the boozer.
And the greatest danger to your health is No2 on the list. Avold at all costs.

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Re: Will you be going to the pub tomorrow?

Post by Devils_Advocate » Fri Jul 03, 2020 2:53 pm

I'll be holding off for a bit not because of the virus threat but mainly because its gonna be more like sitting in a restaurant drinking beer than a pub round me.

My locals are pretty busy pubs and to go there you'll need to book a table, give all your details for tracing, limited to groups of 4 at a table, not allowed to walk about freely, cant go to the bar.

Sounds rubbish and you run the risk of being put into 14 day lockdown if someone else in the pub ends up testing positive. Gonna be having a bbq and party next Saturday at my mates house instead whilst watching the Liverpool game which sounds a lot more fun than sat at a table adhering to loads of rules

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Re: Will you be going to the pub tomorrow?

Post by Dyched » Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:06 pm

Bar staff and landlords are really in a precarious position. First couple of hours no problem. Once the punters have a few down them and starting mingling the problems will start. The punters will turn on them if they say anything about it.

I’m in the middle with how it’s gonna go. Imo most pleasant people will stay away a week or 2 and let the knuckle draggers take out their 3 month no fighting rage out on each other.

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Re: Will you be going to the pub tomorrow?

Post by Burnley1989 » Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:37 pm

Some people :roll: :lol:

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Re: Will you be going to the pub tomorrow?

Post by Top Claret » Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:39 pm

Bad forecast this weekend so I won't be bothering. I will definitely be back in the pubs, but only in the off peak times or I will try pubs with beer gardens when dry and warm.

Usually visit a pub 3 xs a week, more through habit than actually enjoying myself. I have now got used to drinking at home and find that I enjoy it more and drink less

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Re: Will you be going to the pub tomorrow?

Post by buzzclarets79 » Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:43 pm

Not really as pub as such but off to Waggoners on Sunday for tea, really looking forwards to it although it will be different from previous visits. They doing a max table of 6 in order to keep with distancing rules.

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Re: Will you be going to the pub tomorrow?

Post by karatekid » Fri Jul 03, 2020 4:26 pm

Silkyskills1 wrote:
Fri Jul 03, 2020 2:42 pm
And the greatest danger to your health is No2 on the list. Avold at all costs.
I know my close friends have observed all the rules during lockdown as I have. I will also have strict rules on hand sanitising upon entering my home. I would feel more comfortable around them than a bunch of strangers in a pub of whom I have no idea of their lockdown habits or cleanliness.

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Re: Will you be going to the pub tomorrow?

Post by Billy Balfour » Fri Jul 03, 2020 4:39 pm

Same here.

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Re: Will you be going to the pub tomorrow?

Post by durhamclaret » Fri Jul 03, 2020 4:46 pm

No not me for a while yet, I'll wait to see how it goes from afar.

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Re: Will you be going to the pub tomorrow?

Post by Gordaleman » Fri Jul 03, 2020 4:49 pm

Someone mentioned barbecues earlier. So it's nice to see M & S helping out.
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Re: Will you be going to the pub tomorrow?

Post by boatshed bill » Fri Jul 03, 2020 6:47 pm

No. Of all the things I thought i'd miss pubs being closed has been no loss at all
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Re: Will you be going to the pub tomorrow?

Post by JohnMac » Fri Jul 03, 2020 7:19 pm

Not a great frequenter of pubs nowadays anyway so whilst all forms of entertainment are banned and especially whilst we can't go to football I'm in no rush.

I may venture out for a meal once the novelty has worn off in a few weeks time.
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Re: Will you be going to the pub tomorrow?

Post by Rileybobs » Fri Jul 03, 2020 7:26 pm

Dyched wrote:
Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:06 pm
Bar staff and landlords are really in a precarious position. First couple of hours no problem. Once the punters have a few down them and starting mingling the problems will start. The punters will turn on them if they say anything about it.

I’m in the middle with how it’s gonna go. Imo most pleasant people will stay away a week or 2 and let the knuckle draggers take out their 3 month no fighting rage out on each other.
Why don’t you just go somewhere that doesn’t attract knuckle draggers? I do wonder where some of you choose to drink.
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Re: Will you be going to the pub tomorrow?

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Fri Jul 03, 2020 7:56 pm

Stalbansclaret wrote:
Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:34 am
Aren't some of the responses on this thread a bit , well, OTT in terms of fear ? I was reading its the case that around one in 2,200 people have the virus and there is a fatality rate of around 2%. So if I go to the pub and there are 22 other people there I have a 1% chance of one of them having the virus. I'll be distancing from them though so much lower than 1% chance of catching it ...lets say 0.25% chance though, meaning then that I have a 0.005% chance of dying from my visit to the pub. I think that means I would have to go to the pub typically 20,000 times under current conditions to die. I was only planning to go once or twice a week to try and help keep it open !
Fantastic. Actually laughed out loud at that.

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Re: Will you be going to the pub tomorrow?

Post by Bigbopper » Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:06 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Fri Jul 03, 2020 7:26 pm
Why don’t you just go somewhere that doesn’t attract knuckle draggers? I do wonder where some of you choose to drink.
Somewhere were people like to get down a minimum of 8 pints rather than 1 creme de menthe frappe :D

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Re: Will you be going to the pub tomorrow?

Post by NewClaret » Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:10 pm

Grumps wrote:
Fri Jul 03, 2020 12:31 pm
Out of what, 60 million?
Not sure if the 30,000 number is correct, but 30,000 out of 66.65m is 1 in 2,200 people. Pretty good odds as long as you socially distance & take precautions (hand washing, etc).

I’ll avoid the rush for a few weeks, but will be back in pubs/restaurants soon.

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Re: Will you be going to the pub tomorrow?

Post by dougcollins » Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:27 pm

Gordaleman wrote:
Fri Jul 03, 2020 4:49 pm
Someone mentioned barbecues earlier. So it's nice to see M & S helping out.

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Drove past that new M & S in Ripon today, it was a bit of a surprise to see that spring up.

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Re: Will you be going to the pub tomorrow?

Post by box_of_frogs » Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:31 pm

Yes, I’ll pop down to my local. Not being in the ‘dangerous category’ in any way, I fail to see why it shouldn’t be life as normal. If I was at risk then I’d have a different view, but I’m not.

Some might see that harsh or callous. I just see it as managing risk - something I do daily.

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Re: Will you be going to the pub tomorrow?

Post by dougcollins » Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:39 pm

box_of_frogs wrote:
Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:31 pm
Yes, I’ll pop down to my local. Not being in the ‘dangerous category’ in any way, I fail to see why it shouldn’t be life as normal. If I was at risk then I’d have a different view, but I’m not.

Some might see that harsh or callous. I just see it as managing risk - something I do daily.
I suppose you could say it's not 'your' risk, it's the risk of you passing it on to someone vulnerable.

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Re: Will you be going to the pub tomorrow?

Post by box_of_frogs » Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:43 pm

dougcollins wrote:
Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:39 pm
I suppose you could say it's not 'your' risk, it's the risk of you passing it on to someone vulnerable.
Absolutely correct.

And if I was at risk, like my mum, I wouldn’t be going near the pub. But I’m not at risk, and I can only assume that anyone else in the pub is likewise not at risk. If they are, then “Darwinism” kicks in.

Manage risk, and all should be better than no risk management.

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Re: Will you be going to the pub tomorrow?

Post by TheFamilyCat » Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:56 pm

yTib wrote:
Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:09 am
choosing a saturday for reopening the pubs is just the sort of knuckle-headed decision i have come to expect from this government.

the rush to get out could have been much diminished if they'd chosen a day earlier in the week.
Yeah but they are allowing them to open at 6am. Surely a sensible decision to manage organised, controlled entry.

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Re: Will you be going to the pub tomorrow?

Post by ClaretTony » Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:56 pm

I’m not a pub goer so it doesn’t affect me so my answer is no. More important things for me. I saw my brother this week for the first time since we went on the Spurs game. But it was outside the house for a short time and at a two metre distance. Of all things, I’m looking forward most to be able to see and spend time with my friends and family when I feel it is safe to do so.

For those who are going to pubs - please be sensible and observe the rules
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Re: Will you be going to the pub tomorrow?

Post by box_of_frogs » Fri Jul 03, 2020 9:00 pm

Exactly. Be sensible (which I will) and all will be fine. I’ll be the first person to leave if there are bellwhacks in there.

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Re: Will you be going to the pub tomorrow?

Post by Grumps » Fri Jul 03, 2020 9:04 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:10 pm
Not sure if the 30,000 number is correct, but 30,000 out of 66.65m is 1 in 2,200 people. Pretty good odds as long as you socially distance & take precautions (hand washing, etc).

I’ll avoid the rush for a few weeks, but will be back in pubs/restaurants soon.
Similar here, let the rush die down...

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Re: Will you be going to the pub tomorrow?

Post by Gordaleman » Fri Jul 03, 2020 9:08 pm

box_of_frogs wrote:
Fri Jul 03, 2020 9:00 pm
Exactly. Be sensible (which I will) and all will be fine. I’ll be the first person to leave if there are bellwhacks in there.
Bellwhack? What the **** is a Bellwhack?

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Re: Will you be going to the pub tomorrow?

Post by box_of_frogs » Fri Jul 03, 2020 9:12 pm

Gordaleman wrote:
Fri Jul 03, 2020 9:08 pm
Bellwhack? What the **** is a Bellwhack?
Similar to a d!@&head.

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Re: Will you be going to the pub tomorrow?

Post by Gordaleman » Fri Jul 03, 2020 9:14 pm

box_of_frogs wrote:
Fri Jul 03, 2020 9:12 pm
Similar to a d!@&head.
Yes, I imagined it must be but it's definitely a new one on me is that.

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Re: Will you be going to the pub tomorrow?

Post by Fenwick » Fri Jul 03, 2020 9:23 pm

I've talked to a few pub/bar owners this week about re-opening. Most of them said it's not worth it on Saturday. A quieter mid week day is what they are going for

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Re: Will you be going to the pub tomorrow?

Post by NewClaret » Fri Jul 03, 2020 10:23 pm

Grumps wrote:
Fri Jul 03, 2020 9:04 pm
Similar here, let the rush die down...
Me and you are always very sensible Grumps :lol: :lol:

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Re: Will you be going to the pub tomorrow?

Post by Jakubclaret » Fri Jul 03, 2020 10:53 pm

dougcollins wrote:
Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:39 pm
I suppose you could say it's not 'your' risk, it's the risk of you passing it on to someone vulnerable.
Like it or not, that's the exact situation we are faced with, it ultimately boils down to how we react & respond to our new permitted freedoms, we can be sensible as the vast majority will be & have been throughout the Covid-19 outbreak or we can go gung-ho brazenly dismissing all health & safety protocols & guidances & regress to a bleaker future.

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Re: Will you be going to the pub tomorrow?

Post by TheFamilyCat » Fri Jul 03, 2020 10:59 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Fri Jul 03, 2020 10:53 pm
Like it or not, that's the exact situation we are faced with, it ultimately boils down to how we react & respond to our new permitted freedoms, we can be sensible as the vast majority will be & have been throughout the Covid-19 outbreak or we can go gung-ho brazenly dismissing all health & safety protocols & guidances & regress to a bleaker future.
Like visiting multiple shops looking for non-essential paint when lockdown was at its strictest?

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Post by Jakubclaret » Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:23 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:
Fri Jul 03, 2020 10:59 pm
Like visiting multiple shops looking for non-essential paint when lockdown was at its strictest?
Bore off😴

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Re: Will you be going to the pub tomorrow?

Post by Dressinggown » Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:30 pm

The weather will have a big influence on tomorrow's events.

A nice day would mean that pub outdoor areas could accommodate further punters.

I believe that the weather is unfavorable.

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Re: Will you be going to the pub tomorrow?

Post by timshorts » Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:31 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:10 pm
Not sure if the 30,000 number is correct, but 30,000 out of 66.65m is 1 in 2,200 people. Pretty good odds as long as you socially distance & take precautions (hand washing, etc).

I’ll avoid the rush for a few weeks, but will be back in pubs/restaurants soon.
The odds will be slightly better against meeting one of the 30,000 when you take into account that some of them are already in hospital trying not to die.

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Re: Will you be going to the pub tomorrow?

Post by Funkydrummer » Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:53 pm

box_of_frogs wrote:
Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:43 pm
Absolutely correct.

And if I was at risk, like my mum, I wouldn’t be going near the pub. But I’m not at risk, and I can only assume that anyone else in the pub is likewise not at risk. If they are, then “Darwinism” kicks in.

Manage risk, and all should be better than no risk management.
Is that scenario not the exact type of dilemma facing us all ? You are not at risk so, quite rightly, feel
that you are able to mix in a pub environment with minimum risk to yourself. However, your mum is at
risk, and whilst not attending the pub, can potentially mix with someone who has.

This is the knock-on effect that is worrying an awful lot of people, including me.

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Re: Will you be going to the pub tomorrow?

Post by Transpennine » Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:16 am

box_of_frogs wrote:
Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:43 pm
Absolutely correct.

And if I was at risk, like my mum, I wouldn’t be going near the pub. But I’m not at risk, and I can only assume that anyone else in the pub is likewise not at risk. If they are, then “Darwinism” kicks in.

Manage risk, and all should be better than no risk management.
You're not at risk? Cool, would you like to share the reasons why with the rest of us. Cheers.

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Re: Will you be going to the pub tomorrow?

Post by Rileybobs » Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:20 am

Transpennine wrote:
Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:16 am
You're not at risk? Cool, would you like to share the reasons why with the rest of us. Cheers.
I suppose by not at risk he means he’s not at risk in the same way that by going to the pub he’s not at risk of death by electrocution or murder. Obviously there’s a remote chance of those incidents occurring but you wouldn’t describe yourself as being at risk of them.

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Re: Will you be going to the pub tomorrow?

Post by box_of_frogs » Sat Jul 04, 2020 8:20 am

Transpennine wrote:
Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:16 am
You're not at risk? Cool, would you like to share the reasons why with the rest of us. Cheers.
Ok, I am fit and healthy, and thus at minimal risk from C19. The same way there is a minimal risk from crossing the road, driving a car, playing golf, and every other aspect of life.

Manage the risk appropriately.

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Re: Will you be going to the pub tomorrow?

Post by Blackrod » Sat Jul 04, 2020 8:25 am

The opening up today is an economic decision not a health or scientific decision. Hopefully we don’t hear reports of p*ssheads totally ignoring distancing after a few but I wouldn’t bet on it. I went into a big airy diy store yesterday with one in one out. Can’t see how you can successfully social distance in a pub, hotel or airline.

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Re: Will you be going to the pub tomorrow?

Post by Stayingup » Sat Jul 04, 2020 9:16 am

No. I go to relax. These rules will not make the pub experience enjoyable. I have to book a slot at my local so forget it.

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Re: Will you be going to the pub tomorrow?

Post by Funkydrummer » Sat Jul 04, 2020 9:29 am

If this is an example of what could/will happen, then forget it.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-53288489

There is also a dispersal order in place in Stoneyholme/Colne Road.

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/n ... -officers/

Abuse of police officers is unforgivable.

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Re: Will you be going to the pub tomorrow?

Post by Gordaleman » Sat Jul 04, 2020 9:30 am

Reopening pubs, clubs etc relies on people behaving responsibly. Is Boris blind? Has he not seen how Dominic Cummings and his own father both behaved irresponsibly? Did he not see the thousands of people congregating in the parks and on the beaches just over a week ago?

The vast majority of people may behave responsibly, but the stupid minority won't. Social distancing might work up to a point in the sort pf pub that Boris and co might visit, but the social distancing in town centre locals, which generally aren't as big as country pubs will quicly deteriate once people have had a few drinks and begun to relax. I'm convinced that this will lead to arguments and disturbances and I understand why the emergency services are gearing up for a 'New Years Eve' style situation tonight.

Our NHS could do with a rest right now, not an A & E full of drunken louts, which is very likely to happen. Can you imagine those people's reaction when they are asked to wear masks and sit quietly while they are treated?

Boris might not be quite as bad as Trump, but his handling of this whole situation is not far behind and at least 20,000 people more than needed have died as a result of his incompetence.

Enjoy your new found freedoms if you are going out, but please do so responsibly.

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Post by Billy Balfour » Sat Jul 04, 2020 9:36 am

From Eric Idle's Twitter feed.

Unless your pub is called The Grim Reaper you should stay home. Listening to medical advice from politicians is why America is currently a raging wildfire of epidemia. Please be safe.

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Re: Will you be going to the pub tomorrow?

Post by RalphCoatesComb » Sat Jul 04, 2020 9:42 am

Dyched wrote:
Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:06 pm
I’m in the middle with how it’s gonna go. Imo most pleasant people will stay away a week or 2 and let the knuckle draggers take out their 3 month no fighting rage out on each other.
No sitting on the fence for me. Tomorrow, the news will be about drunken muppets hugging each other and urinating in the street whilst giving grief to the Police.

Stay safe out there folks.

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Post by Devils_Advocate » Sat Jul 04, 2020 9:49 am

The queue outside Wetherspoons this morning

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Re: Will you be going to the pub tomorrow?

Post by Billy Balfour » Sat Jul 04, 2020 9:54 am

I've been reading up on the 1918 killer flu pandemic. Pubs and theatres etc were closed when the first wave hit. The real damage was done after they were reopened too early. In the US masks were made compulsory in many states. Then there was a massive backlash to mask wearing in public 'nanny state and all the bull' and legislators backed down, only to make them compulsory again, but this time by popular demand, when the death toll shot through the roof.
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Re: Will you be going to the pub tomorrow?

Post by jrgbfc » Sat Jul 04, 2020 9:58 am

So own up who's sat in Spoons already?

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Re: Will you be going to the pub tomorrow?

Post by RingoMcCartney » Sat Jul 04, 2020 10:04 am

Gordaleman wrote:
Sat Jul 04, 2020 9:30 am
Reopening pubs, clubs etc relies on people behaving responsibly. Is Boris blind? Has he not seen how Dominic Cummings and his own father both behaved irresponsibly? Did he not see the thousands of people congregating in the parks and on the beaches just over a week ago?

The vast majority of people may behave responsibly, but the stupid minority won't. Social distancing might work up to a point in the sort pf pub that Boris and co might visit, but the social distancing in town centre locals, which generally aren't as big as country pubs will quicly deteriate once people have had a few drinks and begun to relax. I'm convinced that this will lead to arguments and disturbances and I understand why the emergency services are gearing up for a 'New Years Eve' style situation tonight.

Our NHS could do with a rest right now, not an A & E full of drunken louts, which is very likely to happen. Can you imagine those people's reaction when they are asked to wear masks and sit quietly while they are treated?

Boris might not be quite as bad as Trump, but his handling of this whole situation is not far behind and at least 20,000 people more than needed have died as a result of his incompetence.

Enjoy your new found freedoms if you are going out, but please do so responsibly.
I suppose you can back that claim up?

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Re: Will you be going to the pub tomorrow?

Post by Gordaleman » Sat Jul 04, 2020 10:16 am

RingoMcCartney wrote:
Sat Jul 04, 2020 10:04 am
I suppose you can back that claim up?
Actually, my figures are an under estimate according to this.

https://www.ft.com/content/b887d344-6c8 ... bea055720b

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Re: Will you be going to the pub tomorrow?

Post by Ptangyangkipperbang » Sat Jul 04, 2020 10:23 am

Gordaleman wrote:
Sat Jul 04, 2020 10:16 am
Actually, my figures are an under estimate according to this.

https://www.ft.com/content/b887d344-6c8 ... bea055720b
I cant seem to open the link but is the estimated deaths mean 35 k to 70k from the pubs opening or from the start of the pandemic? Cheers

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