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Re: Will you be going to the pub tomorrow?

Post by Healeywoodclaret » Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:55 am

fidelcastro wrote:
Fri Jul 03, 2020 10:27 am
No. Breeding ground for the virus. People in close proximity without face coverings.
Drinking a pint whilst wearing a face covering could prove a bit tricky!

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Re: Will you be going to the pub tomorrow?

Post by Healeywoodclaret » Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:57 am

bfcjg wrote:
Fri Jul 03, 2020 10:50 am
Even longer in a coffin.
Nobody lives forever

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Re: Will you be going to the pub tomorrow?

Post by Healeywoodclaret » Sun Jul 05, 2020 11:09 am

Gordaleman wrote:
Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:07 am
I'd rather not risk my life to save a pub thank you.

I assume that you aren't in a vulnerable group? I am.
Everybody is terrified of dying. Sensible precautions if you have a Pre existing condition otherwise it won't kill you.

I find people are terrified of life, just getting up in the morning scares them and even more terrified of dying.

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Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sun Jul 05, 2020 11:12 am

jrgbfc wrote:
Sun Jul 05, 2020 9:51 am
Was doing the rounds on a well known social media site. You'd like to think it wasn't true!
Wouldn’t surprise me.

There was a video going round of a woman unconscious at the swan and a bloke being pinned down by the old bill.

Don’t know what’s worse whatever happened or them filming it.

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Re: Will you be going to the pub tomorrow?

Post by Gordaleman » Sun Jul 05, 2020 11:15 am

Healeywoodclaret wrote:
Sun Jul 05, 2020 11:09 am
Everybody is terrified of dying. Sensible precautions if you have a Pre existing condition otherwise it won't kill you.

I find people are terrified of life, just getting up in the morning scares them and even more terrified of dying.
Believe me, I'm not terrified of much at all. I just don't see the point of putting myself and others at risk, for the sake of a pint or two.

The scenes last night prove the point that people can't 'Social distance' when they have drink in them.

I like a drink as much as the next man, but I'll bide my time thank you.

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Re: Will you be going to the pub tomorrow?

Post by Healeywoodclaret » Sun Jul 05, 2020 11:21 am

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Fri Jul 03, 2020 12:37 pm
I don't go the pub that often these days but I have never got into drinking at home. Nothing social in that at all for me
I do like a glass of wine at home after work on a Friday and with my Sunday lunch but drinking at home can be damaging because its just too easy to drink more than you would in a pub. I suppose that's where self discipline comes in. Only at weekends! But I agree the whole point of pubs is to socialise!

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Re: Will you be going to the pub tomorrow?

Post by Billy Balfour » Sun Jul 05, 2020 11:34 am

Healeywoodclaret wrote:
Sun Jul 05, 2020 11:09 am
Everybody is terrified of dying. Sensible precautions if you have a Pre existing condition otherwise it won't kill you.
Really? Well, maybe you should go and tell my mate's wife that her husband isn't dead. Please don't post dangerous rubbish on here.
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Re: Will you be going to the pub tomorrow?

Post by Healeywoodclaret » Sun Jul 05, 2020 12:19 pm

Billy Balfour wrote:
Sun Jul 05, 2020 11:34 am
Really? Well, maybe you should go and tell my mate's wife that her husband isn't dead. Please don't post dangerous rubbish on here.
As I said sensible precautions.

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Post by Billy Balfour » Sun Jul 05, 2020 12:30 pm

You said sensible precautions IF you have a Pre-existing condition OTHERWISE it won't kill you. Now maybe I'm reading this incorrectly or your grammar is poor. Anyway, whatever. I'll leave you to your ignorance.
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Re: Will you be going to the pub tomorrow?

Post by Healeywoodclaret » Sun Jul 05, 2020 12:34 pm

Billy Balfour wrote:
Sun Jul 05, 2020 12:30 pm
You said sensible precautions IF you have a Pre-existing condition OTHERWISE it won't kill you. Now maybe I'm reading this incorrectly or your grammar is poor. Anyway, whatever. I'll leave you to your ignorance.
Did it kill Prince Charles. Did it kill Boris Johnson?

I'll leave you to cultivate your seeds of FEAR. It won't kill everybody.

Thousands tested positive with no symptoms whatsoever.

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Re: Will you be going to the pub tomorrow?

Post by Billy Balfour » Sun Jul 05, 2020 12:37 pm

Healeywoodclaret wrote:
Sun Jul 05, 2020 12:34 pm
It won't kill everybody.
Oh that's most reassuring. I don't know where we would be without your thoughtful insight. Thank you.

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Re: Will you be going to the pub tomorrow?

Post by Healeywoodclaret » Sun Jul 05, 2020 1:46 pm

Billy Balfour wrote:
Sun Jul 05, 2020 12:37 pm
Oh that's most reassuring. I don't know where we would be without your thoughtful insight. Thank you.

You are welcome. And remember not to be frightened of the shadows. Especially your own.
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Re: Will you be going to the pub tomorrow?

Post by Billy Balfour » Sun Jul 05, 2020 2:14 pm

Healeywoodclaret wrote:
Sun Jul 05, 2020 1:46 pm
You are welcome. And remember not to be frightened of the shadows. Especially your own.
This isn't just about me or indeed you. For me, it's not only about keeping myself safe - it's about the risk I pose to other people should I become infected. You don't see this though, do you. You're one of those self-centered people who see the virus in terms of their own safety, but not the wider community.

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Post by Spijed » Sun Jul 05, 2020 2:17 pm

Healeywoodclaret wrote:
Sun Jul 05, 2020 12:34 pm
Did it kill Prince Charles. Did it kill Boris Johnson?

I'll leave you to cultivate your seeds of FEAR. It won't kill everybody.

Thousands tested positive with no symptoms whatsoever.
Unlike seasonal flu it's clear that if you are fit and healthy you should be fine. However, if you are elderly with underlying health issues you wont if you catch it.

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Re: Will you be going to the pub tomorrow?

Post by Healeywoodclaret » Sun Jul 05, 2020 2:28 pm

Billy Balfour wrote:
Sun Jul 05, 2020 2:14 pm
This isn't just about me or indeed you. For me, it's not only about keeping myself safe - it's about the risk I pose to other people should I become infected. You don't see this though, do you. You're one of those self-centered people who see the virus in terms of their own safety, but not the wider community.
And you don't know me from a bar of soap. Yet you know all about me? It's about putting things into context.

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Re: Will you be going to the pub tomorrow?

Post by dougcollins » Sun Jul 05, 2020 9:57 pm

Healeywoodclaret wrote:
Sun Jul 05, 2020 12:34 pm
Did it kill Prince Charles. Did it kill Boris Johnson?

I'll leave you to cultivate your seeds of FEAR. It won't kill everybody.

Thousands tested positive with no symptoms whatsoever.

And thousands died.

What's your point?
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Re: Will you be going to the pub tomorrow?

Post by Healeywoodclaret » Mon Jul 06, 2020 7:15 am

dougcollins wrote:
Sun Jul 05, 2020 9:57 pm
And thousands died.

What's your point?
And people who had been diagnosed with cancer had COVID documented on their death certificates. Therefore making the figures unreliable.

What's your point?

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Post by fidelcastro » Mon Jul 06, 2020 11:08 am

Healeywoodclaret wrote:
Mon Jul 06, 2020 7:15 am
And people who had been diagnosed with cancer had COVID documented on their death certificates. Therefore making the figures unreliable.

What's your point?
What a stupid argument.

If, God forbid, I had been diagnosed with bowel cancer, and on the way to see my consultant, I was hit by a car whilst crossing the road, which would have killed me?

The car or the cancer?
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Post by Quickenthetempo » Mon Jul 06, 2020 11:29 am

Billy Balfour wrote:
Sun Jul 05, 2020 11:34 am
Really? Well, maybe you should go and tell my mate's wife that her husband isn't dead. Please don't post dangerous rubbish on here.
Hi Billy, Maybe you could give more detail how your friend died and give more information to people? Educate people.

Nothing adds up to me, so the more true information we can see the better.

Obviously nobody knows your friend on here or you for that matter, so the info is anonymous.

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Re: Will you be going to the pub tomorrow?

Post by SammyBoy » Mon Jul 06, 2020 11:30 am

I went to a few places in Burnley on Saturday, and all of them were enforcing the rules quite stringently. I left in the evening though so I'm not sure how much it deteriorated when the night time crowd came out.

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Re: Will you be going to the pub tomorrow?

Post by Bosscat » Mon Jul 06, 2020 11:35 am

Healeywoodclaret wrote:
Mon Jul 06, 2020 7:15 am
And people who had been diagnosed with cancer had COVID documented on their death certificates. Therefore making the figures unreliable.

What's your point?
Jesus wept if you are going to make sweeping statements like that ... then at least back it up with proof 🤔
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Post by evensteadiereddie » Mon Jul 06, 2020 11:44 am

All the pubs that were open on Exeter Quayside on Saturday and in Shaldon, near Teignmouth, and in my local yesterday, enforced the rules/advice admirably.
There wasn't even a hint of a risk. Granted, there could well have been problems elsewhere but the dramaqueen - like suggestion that people - all people, one presumes - can't or won't social distance is cobblers.

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Re: Will you be going to the pub tomorrow?

Post by Billy Balfour » Mon Jul 06, 2020 12:06 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Mon Jul 06, 2020 11:29 am
Hi Billy, Maybe you could give more detail how your friend died and give more information to people? Educate people.
I've mentioned it before on here, Quicken. He was 48 and had no underlying health conditions and wasn't overweight. He was tested positive and three weeks later he was dead. He was on a ward at first and ended up an ICU and sadly didn't make it. I don't want to add anything else for privacy reasons.

A colleague of mine (31 years of age) was tested positive at the beginning of April and he's still recovering. Struggles to climb the stairs and some days he says it's like it has comeback and it floors him with pains in his lungs and kidneys. Also, he no longer has the antibodies according to the test results he received the other week. TBH: The antibodies thing is most concerning.

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Re: Will you be going to the pub tomorrow?

Post by Quickenthetempo » Mon Jul 06, 2020 12:44 pm

Billy Balfour wrote:
Mon Jul 06, 2020 12:06 pm
I've mentioned it before on here, Quicken. He was 48 and had no underlying health conditions and wasn't overweight. He was tested positive and three weeks later he was dead. He was on a ward at first and ended up an ICU and sadly didn't make it. I don't want to add anything else for privacy reasons.

A colleague of mine (31 years of age) was tested positive at the beginning of April and he's still recovering. Struggles to climb the stairs and some days he says it's like it has comeback and it floors him with pains in his lungs and kidneys. Also, he no longer has the antibodies according to the test results he received the other week. TBH: The antibodies thing is most concerning.
Quite understandable about the privacy as with plenty of others.

It would just be a great help to the public to find out how people were catching it first hand.

There's been far too much info for the average person to digest that's why most have switched off.

Thankfully there's no new cases in Burnley which is great news.

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Post by nil_desperandum » Mon Jul 06, 2020 3:00 pm

Bosscat wrote:
Mon Jul 06, 2020 11:35 am
Jesus wept if you are going to make sweeping statements like that ... then at least back it up with proof 🤔
Not supporting Healeywood in general, but I can back up that particular point from personal experience. We know of someone (elderly) who was admitted to hospital, initially just overnight for an assessment - following a nasty fall. Sadly this person died overnight.
They put Covid on the "death certificate". The family quite correctly challenged this since there had been no symptoms, and it had major implications for people attending the funeral, for care workers who had been going to the home etc. etc. They were told that when old people were admitted like this they were all regsistered as Covid. It was "official policy". The family dug in and asked to speak to superiors etc etc., and importantly they insisted that the results of a swab test, (which had been taken when the patient was admitted), should be released. The hospital authorities were not happy. Due to persistence however the results were produced and - of course - it was negative. This was a great relief since it mean't that the funeral could go ahead and no family members or carers had to isolate for 14 days.
So you have to ask, how many elderly patients at our local hospital have been routinely registered as Covid deaths.

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Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Mon Jul 06, 2020 3:02 pm

nil_desperandum wrote:
Mon Jul 06, 2020 3:00 pm
Not supporting Healeywood in general, but I can back up that particular point from personal experience. We know of someone (elderly) who was admitted to hospital, initially just overnight for an assessment - following a nasty fall. Sadly this person died overnight.
They put Covid on the "death certificate". The family quite correctly challenged this since there had been no symptoms, and it had major implications for people attending the funeral, for care workers who had been going to the home etc. etc. They were told that when old people were admitted like this they were all regsistered as Covid. It was "official policy". The family dug in and asked to speak to superiors etc etc., and importantly they insisted that the results of a swab test, (which had been taken when the patient was admitted), should be released. The hospital authorities were not happy. Due to persistence however the results were produced and - of course - it was negative. This was a great relief since it mean't that the funeral could go ahead and no family members or carers had to isolate for 14 days.
So you have to ask, how many elderly patients at our local hospital have been routinely registered as Covid deaths.
Eddie Large is another good example

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Post by Grumps » Mon Jul 06, 2020 4:04 pm

nil_desperandum wrote:
Mon Jul 06, 2020 3:00 pm
Not supporting Healeywood in general, but I can back up that particular point from personal experience. We know of someone (elderly) who was admitted to hospital, initially just overnight for an assessment - following a nasty fall. Sadly this person died overnight.
They put Covid on the "death certificate". The family quite correctly challenged this since there had been no symptoms, and it had major implications for people attending the funeral, for care workers who had been going to the home etc. etc. They were told that when old people were admitted like this they were all regsistered as Covid. It was "official policy". The family dug in and asked to speak to superiors etc etc., and importantly they insisted that the results of a swab test, (which had been taken when the patient was admitted), should be released. The hospital authorities were not happy. Due to persistence however the results were produced and - of course - it was negative. This was a great relief since it mean't that the funeral could go ahead and no family members or carers had to isolate for 14 days.
So you have to ask, how many elderly patients at our local hospital have been routinely registered as Covid deaths.
Happening in all hospitals, and most care homes.

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Post by fidelcastro » Mon Jul 06, 2020 4:18 pm

nil_desperandum wrote:
Mon Jul 06, 2020 3:00 pm
Not supporting Healeywood in general, but I can back up that particular point from personal experience. We know of someone (elderly) who was admitted to hospital, initially just overnight for an assessment - following a nasty fall. Sadly this person died overnight.
They put Covid on the "death certificate". The family quite correctly challenged this since there had been no symptoms, and it had major implications for people attending the funeral, for care workers who had been going to the home etc. etc. They were told that when old people were admitted like this they were all regsistered as Covid. It was "official policy". The family dug in and asked to speak to superiors etc etc., and importantly they insisted that the results of a swab test, (which had been taken when the patient was admitted), should be released. The hospital authorities were not happy. Due to persistence however the results were produced and - of course - it was negative. This was a great relief since it mean't that the funeral could go ahead and no family members or carers had to isolate for 14 days.
So you have to ask, how many elderly patients at our local hospital have been routinely registered as Covid deaths.
So, ALL old people admitted to hospital are registered as having COVID?

Sorry, I simply don't believe that.

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Re: Will you be going to the pub tomorrow?

Post by Healeywoodclaret » Mon Jul 06, 2020 4:48 pm

Bosscat wrote:
Mon Jul 06, 2020 11:35 am
Jesus wept if you are going to make sweeping statements like that ... then at least back it up with proof 🤔
Many people who have lost loved ones have complained that COVID has been documented on death certificates. A guy we know lost his mother aged 94. She had all manner of health problems. He was told its easier to put COVID on the death certificate. There was a big debate about it on Radio 2 a couple of weeks ago with many people ringing on to say the same thing. That's not proof but depends what you believe. Why would relatives question it? Because they did not believe COVID was the cause of death.

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Re: Will you be going to the pub tomorrow?

Post by Healeywoodclaret » Mon Jul 06, 2020 4:57 pm

fidelcastro wrote:
Mon Jul 06, 2020 11:08 am
What a stupid argument.

If, God forbid, I had been diagnosed with bowel cancer, and on the way to see my consultant, I was hit by a car whilst crossing the road, which would have killed me?

The car or the cancer?
Stupid question

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Re: Will you be going to the pub tomorrow?

Post by fidelcastro » Mon Jul 06, 2020 5:04 pm

Healeywoodclaret wrote:
Mon Jul 06, 2020 4:57 pm
Stupid question
Why?

Do give me the benefit of your superior expertise.
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Post by nil_desperandum » Mon Jul 06, 2020 5:04 pm

fidelcastro wrote:
Mon Jul 06, 2020 4:18 pm
So, ALL old people admitted to hospital are registered as having COVID?

Sorry, I simply don't believe that.
I didn't actually say ALL. I was referring to those who died at our local hospital (East Lancs Hosp Trust at Blackburn). It may not have been the same in other authorities, but there are reports of it being the case.
Also, I didn't say that all admissions of the elderly were registered as having Covid. They are tested on arrival. That could be negative. It's only if they die that - apparently - they are recorded as Covid deaths.
Sorry, I simply don't believe that.

Is there any reason do you think why I would make this up?. It was a very traumatic time. It was an unexpected death following a fall. There were "heated" arguments with the registrar, (who passed the buck to the hospital). There were then arguments with the hospital authorities and the medical staff. (To be fair to medical staff they said they were only following the guidance / instructions from management). It took a couple of days to sort out.
Anyone who was less tenacious than the person trying to register the death could easily have accepted their initial "diagnosis" simply for an "easy life"
EDIT: I now note (3 posts up) that Healeywood has also provided further evidence of this.

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Post by fidelcastro » Mon Jul 06, 2020 5:08 pm

nil_desperandum wrote:
Mon Jul 06, 2020 3:00 pm
They were told that when old people were admitted like this they were all regsistered as Covid. It was "official policy".
Yes, you did say ALL.
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Post by summitclaret » Mon Jul 06, 2020 5:09 pm

If what is being said above is true about deliberately putting Covid as cause of death with no evidence, then it is scandalous. Is it because of a shortage of tests earlier? Or have we got some people in the NHS playing politics at such a sensitive time? I hope it is not the latter, but it would not surprise me if an anti- Tory agenda was in play.

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Re: Will you be going to the pub tomorrow?

Post by nil_desperandum » Mon Jul 06, 2020 5:19 pm

fidelcastro wrote:
Mon Jul 06, 2020 5:08 pm
Yes, you did say ALL.
You need to read the whole post again I was clearly referring to all "deaths" - not ALL those admitted, (which is what you wrote). And I've clarified that I mean't ALL at the Blackburn Hospital because that is what we were told was the official policy of ELHT. (Obviously I can't speak for other health authorities since we haven't had communication with them on this topic , (thankfully).)
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Re: Will you be going to the pub tomorrow?

Post by nil_desperandum » Mon Jul 06, 2020 5:23 pm

summitclaret wrote:
Mon Jul 06, 2020 5:09 pm
If what is being said above is true about deliberately putting Covid as cause of death with no evidence, then it is scandalous. Is it because of a shortage of tests earlier? Or have we got some people in the NHS playing politics at such a sensitive time? I hope it is not the latter, but it would not surprise me if an anti- Tory agenda was in play.
To be honest, (and having experienced it) I think it's more a matter of simplifying things, avoiding post-mortems etc. I think hospitals have more pressing things to do than pull political stunts.

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Re: Will you be going to the pub tomorrow?

Post by Healeywoodclaret » Tue Jul 07, 2020 7:20 am

summitclaret wrote:
Mon Jul 06, 2020 5:09 pm
If what is being said above is true about deliberately putting Covid as cause of death with no evidence, then it is scandalous. Is it because of a shortage of tests earlier? Or have we got some people in the NHS playing politics at such a sensitive time? I hope it is not the latter, but it would not surprise me if an anti- Tory agenda was in play.
Don't tell me it's the first you've heard of it? A guy who works with my partner lost his mum in April. 8 months earlier she had been diagnosed with lung cancer. COVID was documented as cause of death and his dad challenged this. But as Nil says its Government Policy and like it or not this situation is very political and completely media driven in my view.

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Post by Targetman » Tue Jul 07, 2020 7:42 am

Seems this argument was caused by Healeywood saying that covid wont kill you unless you have underlying health problems.

That does seem to be a strange comment.

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Post by nil_desperandum » Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:23 am

Targetman wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 7:42 am
Seems this argument was caused by Healeywood saying that covid wont kill you unless you have underlying health problems.

That does seem to be a strange comment.
Well - it's clearly a false claim, but I think his general point is reasonable.
The official "fact checked" figure (as of May 20th) for deaths of those under 60 with no underlying conditions was 253*. It's terrible of course for their families, but it is a very low number compared to deaths by other causes, (they're far more likely to die on the way to the pub) In fact I've read that you are about twice as likely to be struck by lightning.
* I don't know the current figure, but the death rate since May has been much lower anyway.

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Re: Will you be going to the pub tomorrow?

Post by Billy Balfour » Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:37 am

UK in 30 years (1987-2016), 58 people were known to have been killed by lightning.

If only the past ten years are considered, a period with fewer average lightning deaths, the risk was one person in 71 million.

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Re: Will you be going to the pub tomorrow?

Post by Firthy » Tue Jul 07, 2020 12:25 pm

Well it took all of 2 days. Three pubs closed already because someone has been there with Covid 19. Surely these people had symptons before going to the pub for it to be found so soon.

I really do feel for those landlords who have made all the effort to open up again and be shou down so quickly. We have zero cases on the island and I still won't risk going to the pub because my son has to be shielded.

This is going to drag on for years while we have irresponsible people spreading it.

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Re: Will you be going to the pub tomorrow?

Post by nil_desperandum » Tue Jul 07, 2020 1:28 pm

Billy Balfour wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:37 am
UK in 30 years (1987-2016), 58 people were known to have been killed by lightning.

If only the past ten years are considered, a period with fewer average lightning deaths, the risk was one person in 71 million.
That's why I used the term "struck by lightening". It's a pretty common metaphor for saying that the odds are really small.
(I'm not diminishing the impact that the death of a healthy person from Covid has, but statistically the chances of a healthy person under 60 dying from Covid really are very, very small. You're far more likely - for example - to be diagnosed with terminal illness or have a fatal accident).

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Re: Will you be going to the pub tomorrow?

Post by Billy Balfour » Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:00 pm

nil_desperandum wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 1:28 pm
That's why I used the term "struck by lightening".

Ok then. We'll go with 'struck' by lightening.

You said that deaths of people aged under 60 (as of May 20th) with no underlying conditions was 253. Then you went onto to say; "In fact I've read that you are about twice as likely to be struck by lightning".

So by my reckoning, this means you believe that it's possible that somewhere in the region of 506 people here in the UK (aged under 60) are likely to be stuck by lightening in a 3 or 4 month period.

It might be a pretty common metaphor, but you posted it while quoting the deaths of 253 people. I just think it's fair to point out that 253 deaths, of people aged under the age of 60 with no underlying conditions, comes absolutely nowhere near to your 'common metaphor'.

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Re: Will you be going to the pub tomorrow?

Post by evensteadiereddie » Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:06 pm

For a bit of perspective, how many people were killed, pre-lockdown, on our roads each day ?
Although 253 deaths, especially if avoidable, is 253 deaths too many but it doesn't sound significant, statistically, to me.

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Re: Will you be going to the pub tomorrow?

Post by Gordaleman » Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:12 pm

Getting back to the pub discussion, it is being suggested that all adults in Britain could be given a £500 voucher to spend on 'Hospitality' to get the industry up and running again. That should include pubs and clubs, so how long will it take you to spend it on pints?

It might take me quite a while as I haven't been back as yet and I'm in no rush.

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Re: Will you be going to the pub tomorrow?

Post by Billy Balfour » Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:17 pm

I don't think there will be a £500 voucher. More like a thinktank getting some free publicity.

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Re: Will you be going to the pub tomorrow?

Post by Gordaleman » Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:21 pm

Billy Balfour wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:17 pm
I don't think there will be a £500 voucher. More like a thinktank getting some free publicity.
Just one source.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -hit-firms

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Re: Will you be going to the pub tomorrow?

Post by evensteadiereddie » Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:23 pm

Ooooh, yes please !

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Re: Will you be going to the pub tomorrow?

Post by tim_noone » Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:31 pm

Gordaleman wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:12 pm
Getting back to the pub discussion, it is being suggested that all adults in Britain could be given a £500 voucher to spend on 'Hospitality' to get the industry up and running again. That should include pubs and clubs, so how long will it take you to spend it on pints?

It might take me quite a while as I haven't been back as yet and I'm in no rush.
But remember...its no worse than Flu.

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