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The drinks break

Post by Cirrus_Minor » Mon Jul 06, 2020 11:34 am

Is this just subtle ruse to introduce TV adverts half way through each half? The only reason for it yesterday would be to hand out cups of Bovril.

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Re: The drinks break

Post by Rowls » Mon Jul 06, 2020 11:35 am

That's what I've long suspected.

FA need to get rid of it asap.

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Re: The drinks break

Post by nil_desperandum » Mon Jul 06, 2020 11:42 am

Rowls wrote:
Mon Jul 06, 2020 11:35 am
That's what I've long suspected.

FA need to get rid of it asap.
I agree ENTIRELY, but I'd be willing to bet that it's here to stay since I bet that the managers, PFA etc would all like to keep it [+ of course - as already mentioned - SKY etc because of advertising revenue.]
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Re: The drinks break

Post by ClaretDiver » Mon Jul 06, 2020 12:04 pm

I have read somewhere that it was a recommendation of Project Restart to keep airways 'lubricated' due to Covid-19. Health experts recommended it. I could be wrong but sure I read it somewhere

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Re: The drinks break

Post by ayrshireclaret83 » Mon Jul 06, 2020 12:06 pm

I disagree with the previous posts

I think it’s been a really good addiction and would like it to stay.

Gives managers another opportunity to get their messages across and can change how a game is going.

Our first half stats yesterday completely changed after the first half water break

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Re: The drinks break

Post by Zlatan » Mon Jul 06, 2020 12:08 pm

The main reason for the break is for players to keep hydrated in what has been warmer playing conditions than they are used to. Wasn’t the case yesterday though.

I also think it’s a welcome addition though, enabling a one minute break was what Dyche needed yesterday.

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Re: The drinks break

Post by nil_desperandum » Mon Jul 06, 2020 12:15 pm

ayrshireclaret83 wrote:
Mon Jul 06, 2020 12:06 pm
I disagree with the previous posts

I think it’s been a really good addiction and would like it to stay.

Gives managers another opportunity to get their messages across and can change how a game is going.

Our first half stats yesterday completely changed after the first half water break
That's why I disagree with it. You can be piling on pressure, winning corner after corner, wearing the opposition down, with a goal seeming inevitable, and then suddenly that pressure is relieved by - effectively - a "time out". You've then lost all your momentum after the game restarts.
(I suppose that if it became a part of the game, then it would change things tactically quite a bit with teams playing to reach the "water break" without conceding and then regrouping, but I don't like it myself).

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Re: The drinks break

Post by chekhov » Mon Jul 06, 2020 12:16 pm

Strange logic: “I think it’s a good idea because it worked to our advantage yesterday.”

I understand the logic for it at this time, but as for it being a permanent thing, please no! There are already far too many breaks in play what with substitutions, time wasting and play-acting.
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Re: The drinks break

Post by Rowls » Mon Jul 06, 2020 12:18 pm

ClaretDiver wrote:
Mon Jul 06, 2020 12:04 pm
I have read somewhere that it was a recommendation of Project Restart to keep airways 'lubricated' due to Covid-19. Health experts recommended it. I could be wrong but sure I read it somewhere
Yes because footballers were constantly collapsing owing to dried airways beforehand. :roll:

Tendentious nonsense.

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Re: The drinks break

Post by huw.Y.WattfromWare » Mon Jul 06, 2020 12:21 pm

I’m for it. I also believe it has cut down on the fake injury time outs that ruin the game.
The pace of the modern game the players do need a break. If you make it halfway through each half what’s the problem? The refs have been waiting for the ball to go dead which is a plus.

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Re: The drinks break

Post by BennyD » Mon Jul 06, 2020 12:22 pm

ClaretDiver wrote:
Mon Jul 06, 2020 12:04 pm
I have read somewhere that it was a recommendation of Project Restart to keep airways 'lubricated' due to Covid-19. Health experts recommended it. I could be wrong but sure I read it somewhere
Surely, if lubrication is needed because of Covid 19, either there are infected players on the pitch or the decontamination procedure is flawed. The drinks break is simply another Americanism creeping into the game. It’s bolloxcs.

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Re: The drinks break

Post by Burnley1989 » Mon Jul 06, 2020 12:23 pm

I'm sure I read somewhere that its also so they can clean the goal posts, unless someone's been winding me up

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Re: The drinks break

Post by Red Fox Rocks Socks » Mon Jul 06, 2020 12:25 pm

Hopefully they’ll keep it for summer in tournament footy. Paul Scholes could have won us a World Cup if he had breaks I bet 😉

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Re: The drinks break

Post by Leisure » Mon Jul 06, 2020 12:28 pm

Burnley1989 wrote:
Mon Jul 06, 2020 12:23 pm
I'm sure I read somewhere that its also so they can clean the goal posts, unless someone's been winding me up
Yes, they do seem to clean the goalposts and the corner flags. Although not sure if this was a reason for needing the break or they're just taking advantage of the opportunity.

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Re: The drinks break

Post by bfcjg » Mon Jul 06, 2020 12:50 pm

And pray tell what on earth is wrong with the water break sponsored by Volvic the pure water that Manchester United endorse ? Cynics the lot of you.

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Re: The drinks break

Post by Top Claret » Mon Jul 06, 2020 12:54 pm

The only reason I can see for the drinks break is to stop players from picking up bottles that others have drunk out of. The conditions we have had for football have been perfect since the re start. Wet and mild

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Re: The drinks break

Post by Jakubs Tash » Mon Jul 06, 2020 12:54 pm

I think the drinks break is a good idea for Project Restart given the games are being played in June and July. However, I would not want to see drinks breaks being implemented under normal circumstances. Totally stops the flow of a game and quite frankly shouldn't be required during autumn, winter and spring.

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Re: The drinks break

Post by FactualFrank » Mon Jul 06, 2020 12:57 pm

I must be missing something. I thought it was to hydrate players who wouldn't be as fit as they normally would be and for this season only, would allow players to have a bit of a breather.

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Re: The drinks break

Post by Pimlico_Claret » Mon Jul 06, 2020 1:04 pm

Is it sponsored by GM Fitted Furniture?

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Re: The drinks break

Post by Claretmatt4 » Mon Jul 06, 2020 1:17 pm

Sounds like nobody is actually sure why it's there. Definitely has an American feel to it.

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Re: The drinks break

Post by KateR » Mon Jul 06, 2020 1:20 pm

Cirrus_Minor wrote:
Mon Jul 06, 2020 11:34 am
Is this just subtle ruse to introduce TV adverts half way through each half? The only reason for it yesterday would be to hand out cups of Bovril.
interesting, here in the US there are no adverts during drinks break, but provides time for me to get one if so desired. The commentators do a little talk/synopsis of the game.

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Re: The drinks break

Post by Bin Ont Turf » Mon Jul 06, 2020 1:20 pm

Just got an image of Ian Woan with a tray of brews.

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Re: The drinks break

Post by Blackrod » Mon Jul 06, 2020 1:26 pm

ayrshireclaret83 wrote:
Mon Jul 06, 2020 12:06 pm
I disagree with the previous posts

I think it’s been a really good addiction and would like it to stay.

Gives managers another opportunity to get their messages across and can change how a game is going.

Our first half stats yesterday completely changed after the first half water break
Not read the entire thread but I’ve noticed a lot more instructions being given to the team than in impromptu breaks in play. Almost as though it’s planned that it will be assessed at that point. Please no to advertising breaks. It will be like American sports.

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Re: The drinks break

Post by Dyched » Mon Jul 06, 2020 1:44 pm

It’s there for what it is a “Drinks Break”. Given a lot of planning went into getting football back and it’s return set at the beginning of June when temps in England rise. They decided to include a “Drinks Break” into the games. Whilst temps go up and down and certainly have done since the restart they can’t exactly decide during the game whether they will stop or not. I really can’t fathom why anyone would whinge about it. It last about a minute.

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Re: The drinks break

Post by claptrappers_union » Mon Jul 06, 2020 1:54 pm

I think for the players to come back from 3 months of and expect to play at a high intensity, it makes sense especially when we are carrying on into the summer. Drinks break, I think is welcomed all round though, none of the professionals are complaining about it. But I don't want to see it carried on into next season though.

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Re: The drinks break

Post by nil_desperandum » Mon Jul 06, 2020 2:06 pm

Dyched wrote:
Mon Jul 06, 2020 1:44 pm
It’s there for what it is a “Drinks Break”. Given a lot of planning went into getting football back and it’s return set at the beginning of June when temps in England rise. They decided to include a “Drinks Break” into the games. Whilst temps go up and down and certainly have done since the restart they can’t exactly decide during the game whether they will stop or not. I really can’t fathom why anyone would whinge about it. It last about a minute.
I'm not sure anyone is whinging about it in current circumstances. What many of us are saying is that we hope that it doesn't become an accepted part of the game when "normal" football resumes, (particularly if it becomes influenced by commercial interests , in which case your one minute could easily be extended).
Just imagine 22 minutes of football littered with free-kicks,a card or two, a 2 or 3 hold-ups for substitutions, and a couple of lengthy stops whilst the trainer comes on - (maybe only about 14 / 15 minutes with the ball in play) -, and that just after you've got the game restarted and won a corner you have to take drinks break. We need more "flow" not less.
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Re: The drinks break

Post by BenWickes » Mon Jul 06, 2020 4:36 pm

I am hoping it's merely implemented due to the games being played in the height of summer. Especially if you take into account last summer's temperatures. As it's turned out, the weather's not been as hot over a sustained period as they may have accounted for. Still, they can't have them in some games and not others. It could be deemed an advantage. Let's face it, they find the weirdest excuses. Grass too long, it's too dry, too wet. No need for them in a normal season. Unless, as has been mentioned; it's a luke-warm Bovril or Tea.

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Re: The drinks break

Post by claretandy » Mon Jul 06, 2020 4:40 pm

It's worked in our favour most of the time.

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Re: The drinks break

Post by Cirrus_Minor » Mon Jul 06, 2020 7:28 pm

If the sun is cracking the flags like it was against Watford I can see some sense in the reference allowing the players to have a slurp to avoid dehydration. But the weather was cold, wet and potentiality blowing dogs inside out. Stopping was probably more hazardous in these conditions.
I just fear this is a way of creating a break so that more revenue can be reaped, like televised cricket between overs.

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Re: The drinks break

Post by exilecanada » Mon Jul 06, 2020 9:46 pm

I watch most games on DAZN, so no ad's, just a short chat between the 'experts' in the studio during the drinks break. However I watched yesterdays Southampton/City game on NBC, no ad's either, which is odd, Yanks typically go to all lengths to advertise some sh*t no one wants or needs.

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Re: The drinks break

Post by Bullabill » Tue Jul 07, 2020 1:01 am

Going by the commentators' descriptions it should be called a 'Taking fluids on board' break.

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Re: The drinks break

Post by IanMcL » Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:01 am

Unless it is 100 degrees, it is just spoiling the flow.
This is normt the US. We'll be having time outs next!
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