Burnley interested in Paul Cook

[cricketfieldclarets]

Not a story from 20 years ago either.

Burnley express claim we are interested in him should speculation be true and Dyche leave.

[fidelcastro]

It was first reported in the Daily Star (is that still coming out?)

Must be true then!

[matttheclaret]

On a different point, what on earth has happened to the BE website? Fnd it completely unusable these days - shame because it used to be a good site

[boatshed bill]

I liked him when he played for us...classy.

[clarethomer]

I'm sure they would consider appointing a number of managers if they lost Dyche...

Given that we haven't lost Dyche and apart from some speculative insight into his future, I'm not sure what the story is here?

Must be a slow news day for them.

[longsidetrumpet]

I won’t comment on the speculation. It’s the Star putting two and two together and getting one. Great player for us, never a premier league manager. As for the Burnley Express website it always was a shambles. I’ll exempt Chris Boden from this, but the content, just like the paper nowadays, is mind-numbingly dull

[MACCA]

Done a cracking job at Wigan, but doubt he is modern enough to handle the over paid namby pamby premier league stars of today.
He will also have very little knowledge of the league and the sorts of markets we are involved in.

Although he would be a cheap option, so it wouldn't surprise me.

Hopefully we can cling onto Mr Dyche for another 12 months and he can see us through the transition that's evidently needed.

[Rowls]

He's a good, strong character.

We should be looking into replacements in case the worst happens but hopefully Dyche stays.

[tim_noone]

Nooooooo........!!!!!

[Woodleyclaret]

It might be worth tapping Cookie up for phone numbers of the sacked scouts at Wigan

[claptrappers_union]

We need someone with Premier League experience. I’d sooner have Mark Hughes, which is a scary thought to be fair

[jdrobbo]

I bloody hate news like this.

[DCWat]

We need someone with Premier League experience. I’d sooner have Mark Hughes, which is a scary thought to be fair

Wash your mouth out!

[Alanstevensonsgloves]

I'd have that slavisa guy from Fulham.

[Danieljwaterhouse]

Not a story from 20 years ago either.

Burnley express claim we are interested in him should speculation be true and Dyche leave.

Have you ever considered that like young players, young managers go out in loan too.

Duff who obviously was drawn to Cheltenham, is one such example. He could’ve sat on Dyches staff and worked with him until he was ready to step in or he could go out on ‘loan’ and learn the ropes the hard way.

Barton has taken this route too. When Dyche does go I expect one of these two to be appointed, maybe even together.

Dyche isn’t just a training complex, whole club revolutionary, he’s looking to the future of the club for decades ahead.

[Gordaleman]

Dyche is going nowhere, The media doesn't like us, so they are trying another angle to unsettle Sean. It won't work. Sean is staying to complete the job he started eight years ago.

[cricketfieldclarets]

Have you ever considered that like young players, young managers go out in loan too.

Duff who obviously was drawn to Cheltenham, is one such example. He could’ve sat on Dyches staff and worked with him until he was ready to step in or he could go out on ‘loan’ and learn the ropes the hard way.

Barton has taken this route too. When Dyche does go I expect one of these two to be appointed, maybe even together.

Dyche isn’t just a training complex, whole club revolutionary, he’s looking to the future of the club for decades ahead.

Agree hundred percent

[CharlieinNewMexico]

Obviously set up for a Joey Barton / Steven Defour partnership!

[mikeS]

What vacancies are their in the PL right now that Dyche can move to that are in a better position than Burnley?

[ClaretTony]

I won’t comment on the speculation. It’s the Star putting two and two together and getting one. Great player for us, never a premier league manager. As for the Burnley Express website it always was a shambles. I’ll exempt Chris Boden from this, but the content, just like the paper nowadays, is mind-numbingly dull

It's not the Burnley Express though suggesting an interest in Cook, all they are doing is quoting something that was in the Daily Star a few days ago. What's becoming a problem is the stuff going on the Burnley Express website that is not coming from either Chris or Dan but someone who works for the paper's owners. They've even stuck up articles that totally contradict what Chris or Dan have already posted when they've been correct.

[northeastclaret]

It’s because he is the only other manager with a gravelly voice. A lot easier for the players to accept a new manager if he sounds the same. Simples

[Top Claret]

Have you ever considered that like young players, young managers go out in loan too.

Duff who obviously was drawn to Cheltenham, is one such example. He could’ve sat on Dyches staff and worked with him until he was ready to step in or he could go out on ‘loan’ and learn the ropes the hard way.

Barton has taken this route too. When Dyche does go I expect one of these two to be appointed, maybe even together.

Dyche isn’t just a training complex, whole club revolutionary, he’s looking to the future of the club for decades ahead.

It is ridiculous to even suggest that an established Premier league club would be interested in a couple of ex pros who manage in the 3rd and 4th tier.

[Long Time Lurker]

Todays Online Burnley Express article suggests that we are considering a Gibson plus cash deal for Dael Fry.

That strikes me as an even worse piece of recruitment, unfortunately it probably has more chance of being true.

[Woodleyclaret]

Joe Lolley looks a good prospect better than Fry

[CnBtruntru]

Is he needed for the canteen!

[Billy Balfour]

Well let's hope it doesn't come to this. If it does, I'd like to see Joey Barton back here.

[williamjblazkowicz]

I'd have Duff over most other managers. Some might say he lacks experience but he's done an excellent job at Cheltenham and knows this club inside out. He'll have learned a lot from Dyche which will allow some form of continuity which I feel is essential if we're to continue in the top flight.

[Long Time Lurker]

Joe Lolley looks a good prospect better than Fry

Nods, different position, but Lolley has been consistently good for a number of seasons. Having Cash behind him has helped to spur him on this season. Promotion or another year in the Championship, I doubt Forrest would sell him for a respectable amount.

My other reservation is that he isn't very young. Plenty of game time left in him, and we can't really afford to be buying any big prospect players in the 19-22 bracket, but I would prefer to see us go after good players in the 23-26 age range.

In terms of suitability for the way that we play Lolley would be a much better fit than someone like Osayi-Samuel, who is more of a quick flair player. Good dribbling, creative, doesn't stand out defensively, plays well on the right for QPR, but looked far less effective on the left when I watched him last season.

Discounting Eze, Ryan Manning is the QPR player who interests me the most and I can't understand why he doesn't attract more attention. He has been excellent this season and he has shown some real signs of improvement since his transition to left back. Out of contract in 2021 as well, the same as Osayi-Samuel.

Dael is a fairly average Championship defender, Gibson is a lot better. The 30m price tag Middlesbrough put on the head of Fry last Winter was ludicrous, their current ambition for 20m is ridiculous. Given their lack of any real players to sell, the need for a significant squad rebuild, 25m still owed in transfer fees from their poor recruitment and it isn't hard to see why they would relish a club paying way over the odds for Fry.

I would rather we sold Gibson to another club ( even though his value has probably taken a pretty big hit ) and we used the money to buy a different defender. We could easily get somebody a lot better than Fry for less than £10m. Although two of our newly hired technical analysts came from Middlesbrough, so they may think Dael is the best thing since sliced bread and worthy of a big valuation.

Middlesbroughs defence has been really poor this year and Fry has looked like a fish out of water on the left side of their central pair, which is probably why Warnock immediately switched him to the right. Watching where we play Tarks in the next few games could give us some indication of what our central defender recruitment thoughts might be.

Gibson and cash for Dael Fry, even with the position that Gibson has put us in I'm struggling to take such a deal seriously in terms of value for money. The Browhill / Nahki swap was an excellent piece of business, but this one could easily turn out to be poor.

[KateR]

Fake News, nothing to see, move on

[bf2k]

That's **** for a local rag to "report" news like this.

If (or when) Dyche decides to call it a day I'd hope we'd be more adventurous then Paul Cook!

[AGENT_CLARET]

Bf2k can I ask if your first name begins with A

[ClaretTony]

Have you ever considered that like young players, young managers go out in loan too.

Duff who obviously was drawn to Cheltenham, is one such example. He could’ve sat on Dyches staff and worked with him until he was ready to step in or he could go out on ‘loan’ and learn the ropes the hard way.

Barton has taken this route too. When Dyche does go I expect one of these two to be appointed, maybe even together.

Dyche isn’t just a training complex, whole club revolutionary, he’s looking to the future of the club for decades ahead.

Are either of them qualified yet to manage in the Premier League? I suspect Duffo might be but I doubt Joey is.

[Top Claret]

I'd have Duff over most other managers. Some might say he lacks experience but he's done an excellent job at Cheltenham and knows this club inside out. He'll have learned a lot from Dyche which will allow some form of continuity which I feel is essential if we're to continue in the top flight.

What exactly has he done at Cheltenham?

[claptrappers_union]

What exactly has he done at Cheltenham?

He took them to the Play-Offs - they were 21st in League Two before he took charge

[claptrappers_union]

Are either of them qualified yet to manage in the Premier League? I suspect Duffo might be but I doubt Joey is.

I gathered most managers and coaches do their qualifications during their playing career - only takes 12 months to complete Level 5


The UEFA Pyramid:

• Level 5, UEFA Pro Licence (focus on how to manage)
  A mandatory qualification for managing in the FA Premier League and UEFA competitions.
  Most candidates complete in 12 months

• Level 4, UEFA A Licence (focus on phases of play, 9v9 games and 11v11 match play)
  Work as a manager/coach in the professional game, or Academy Manager.
  Most candidates complete within 2 years.

• Level 3, UEFA B Licence (focus on functions, phases of play and 8v8 games)
  Find work in Centres of Excellence and Academies.
  You have 2 years, but can usually be completed in 12-18 months

• Level 2, Certificate in Coaching Football (focus on how we coach, play, support and the future player)
  Find work in Football in the Community, local authorities, US soccer camps.
  You have 3 years to complete, but it can be achieved in 6 months. PFA members can start their coaching pathway at this tier

• Level 1
  Useful for local community work, and can be completed in a few weeks. Not a mandatory qualification, but a gentle introduction.

[williamjblazkowicz]

What exactly has he done at Cheltenham?

You can't look that up? I'm pretty sure Cheltenham were flirting with relegation when he arrived and he guided them to safety and then promotion contention within a very short space of time.

[ClaretTony]

I gathered most managers and coaches do their qualifications during their playing career - only takes 12 months to complete Level 5


The UEFA Pyramid:

• Level 5, UEFA Pro Licence (focus on how to manage)
  A mandatory qualification for managing in the FA Premier League and UEFA competitions.
  Most candidates complete in 12 months

• Level 4, UEFA A Licence (focus on phases of play, 9v9 games and 11v11 match play)
  Work as a manager/coach in the professional game, or Academy Manager.
  Most candidates complete within 2 years.

• Level 3, UEFA B Licence (focus on functions, phases of play and 8v8 games)
  Find work in Centres of Excellence and Academies.
  You have 2 years, but can usually be completed in 12-18 months

• Level 2, Certificate in Coaching Football (focus on how we coach, play, support and the future player)
  Find work in Football in the Community, local authorities, US soccer camps.
  You have 3 years to complete, but it can be achieved in 6 months. PFA members can start their coaching pathway at this tier

• Level 1
  Useful for local community work, and can be completed in a few weeks. Not a mandatory qualification, but a gentle introduction.

Lot of work there - as I said, I think Duffo might have got there now but I doubt Joey has.

[cricketfieldclarets]

What vacancies are their in the PL right now that Dyche can move to that are in a better position than Burnley?

None now. But come the end of the season West Ham will almost certainly be one. And while they may be a basket case at times, they have huge potential and financial backing. With a great academy.

Dyche would be a brilliant manager for West Ham.

[cricketfieldclarets]

Lot of work there - as I said, I think Duffo might have got there now but I doubt Joey has.

What would happen if Joey in theory got double promotions without those qualifications?

[ClaretTony]

What would happen if Joey in theory got double promotions without those qualifications?

If he didn’t have the pro licence he can’t manage in the Premier League. I’d assume if he’s not got it yet he’ll be working towards it.

[Middle-agedClaret]

If SD were to leave ( which I sincerely hope will not be the case for a very long time) I really hope that neither Barton or Paul Cook is a serious option for his successor.

[cricketfieldclarets]

If he didn’t have the pro licence he can’t manage in the Premier League. I’d assume if he’s not got it yet he’ll be working towards it.

What a ludicrous rule.

[Danieljwaterhouse]

Are either of them qualified yet to manage in the Premier League? I suspect Duffo might be but I doubt Joey is.

I think that’s the ‘loan’ aspect of the situation. Go and get the licence you need whilst coaching a first team in the football
League

[Danieljwaterhouse]

It is ridiculous to even suggest that an established Premier league club would be interested in a couple of ex pros who manage in the 3rd and 4th tier.

I’d agree if we’re talking tomorrow, this summer or even next year.

We’re not, it’s a long term investment by the club.

This will either age well or it won’t, just my thoughts

[ClaretTony]

What a ludicrous rule.

It's not ludicrous at all, it is a required qualification.

[cricketfieldclarets]

It's not ludicrous at all, it is a required qualification.

Yes it is. A manager could get a team promoted all through the leagues and then not be qualified to be a manager? As I say. Ludicrous.

[claptrappers_union]

It's not ludicrous at all, it is a required qualification.

I know it was a while ago and rules may have changed, but I remember Gareth Southgate having to do his qualification while managing Middlesbrough...

Edit: here’s the link - https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... ory.sport3

[ClaretTony]

Yes it is. A manager could get a team promoted all through the leagues and then not be qualified to be a manager? As I say. Ludicrous.

You would expect him then to take his badges. Simple as that. Far from ludicrous, it’s common sense, it’s right and is agreed with their own union.

I’m sure Duffo will be there because he started taking his badges back in 2007 when he thought his playing career was over. Joey I’m not sure although he was doing his badges I think when he was still here.

[Jimmymaccer]

We’d be mad to lose Dyche.....

And Dyche would be mad to lose us..........

Surely both need to get a reality check......

We’re both made for each other.

[Danieljwaterhouse]

If he didn’t have the pro licence he can’t manage in the Premier League. I’d assume if he’s not got it yet he’ll be working towards it.

It’s pie in the sky as he’s managing Fleetwood and an established PL team couldn’t appoint him without it

But

Would he not be installed as a (insert made up title here) whilst some nominally would carry the correct qual until he achieved it.