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John Guidetti

Post by bartons baggage » Tue Jun 07, 2016 11:22 am

Is he going to be a claret again? ;)

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Re: John Guidetti

Post by MACCA » Tue Jun 07, 2016 11:25 am

Claret - possibly.

Burnley - probably not

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Re: John Guidetti

Post by bartons baggage » Tue Jun 07, 2016 11:28 am

We shall see.

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Re: John Guidetti

Post by jedi_master » Tue Jun 07, 2016 11:38 am

Where have you heard this one bartons baggage?

Had a slightly above average season in La Liga with Celta Vigo scoring 7 league goals in 35 games (not sure how many were starts), still only 24 years old. He signed a five year deal with them.

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Re: John Guidetti

Post by claretblue » Tue Jun 07, 2016 11:39 am

what with Tripps, Mee, Barton and........Guidetti


are Citeh our feeder club? :)
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Re: John Guidetti

Post by maccclaret » Tue Jun 07, 2016 11:41 am

what with Heaton, Keane, Jones and.......OGS

are manyoo our feeder club?

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Re: John Guidetti

Post by CumbrianClaret » Tue Jun 07, 2016 11:41 am

Rumours about that we're trying to sign ex loan player now playing abroad .

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Re: John Guidetti

Post by jedi_master » Tue Jun 07, 2016 11:43 am

Rumours from where?

If it's Nixon his track record for Burnley seems to have become beyond patchy in the last 2 years.

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Re: John Guidetti

Post by ecc » Tue Jun 07, 2016 11:49 am

"If it's Nixon his track record for Burnley seems to have become beyond patchy in the last 2 years."

Don't worry, jedi. :)

Nixon will be fully focused on matters down the road. His work will be easier now as he won't have to "guess" fees. :)

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Re: John Guidetti

Post by KRBFC » Tue Jun 07, 2016 11:54 am

Where has this link come from?

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Re: John Guidetti

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Tue Jun 07, 2016 11:57 am

It'll be that Fredeick Nimani. Unfinished business at Turf Moor.
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Re: John Guidetti

Post by Jambounchained » Tue Jun 07, 2016 12:18 pm

I can't see this happening at all myself. Is he really what we need?

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Re: John Guidetti

Post by claretspice » Tue Jun 07, 2016 12:26 pm

Interesting link. Accordingly to Soccerbase, he started only 12 league games for Celta Vigo last season, but made another 23 appearances from the bench, which suggests he couldn't quite break into their starting XI (although most of his starts seem to have come later in the season and like any player he could be forgiven for taking a while to adapt to a foreign league). But he did score 7 league goals despite that, and that in a team finished 6th in La Liga, so a good side. And he also scored 5 in 7 in the Copa Del Rey.

Would fit the bill as the sort of mobile target man we could do with adding this summer. I thought based on past discussions his wages were out of our league though.

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Re: John Guidetti

Post by bartons baggage » Tue Jun 07, 2016 12:27 pm

And what do we need jambo?.

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Re: John Guidetti

Post by jedi_master » Tue Jun 07, 2016 12:35 pm

Jambounchained wrote:I can't see this happening at all myself. Is he really what we need?
I would say Guidetti would be quite a coup for a club like Burnley if it's a permanent deal, he plays most games for Sweden alongside Ibrahimovic, has top scored in the Eeredivisie (not hard, granted) and has just finished in 6th place in La Liga with a team that has been praised for it's fast, attacking football. Nolito who I assume he has been playing alongside is a fabulous player for Celta Vigo.

24 is a good age for the amount of top level experience he has both domestically and internationally - he would cost a wedge I imagine.

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Re: John Guidetti

Post by CumbrianClaret » Tue Jun 07, 2016 12:50 pm

A BFC supporting neighbour told me yesterday Jedi_master - don't know where he'd got it from .

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Re: John Guidetti

Post by ŽižkovClaret » Tue Jun 07, 2016 12:51 pm

He looked a class apart during the U21 tournament that he won with Sweden last year.

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Re: John Guidetti

Post by OSC Burnley '55 » Tue Jun 07, 2016 12:54 pm

CumbrianClaret wrote:Rumours about that we're trying to sign ex loan player now playing abroad .
could be Chalobah just as easily as Guidetti .. on loan at Napoli last season.

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Re: John Guidetti

Post by bobinho » Tue Jun 07, 2016 12:59 pm

Well I sincerely hope it's not guidetti.

He was shocking on loan. Loads of people shouting "potential" but a bit like McCann in that it wasn't realised.

If we are lookin for a forward, he needs to be better than this fella.

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Re: John Guidetti

Post by bartons baggage » Tue Jun 07, 2016 1:05 pm

OSC Burnley '55 wrote:could be Chalobah just as easily as Guidetti .. on loan at Napoli last season.
I got told he had a bad attitude,hence the lack of game time for us.

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Re: John Guidetti

Post by Pickles » Tue Jun 07, 2016 1:05 pm

bobinho wrote:Well I sincerely hope it's not guidetti.

He was shocking on loan. Loads of people shouting "potential" but a bit like McCann in that it wasn't realised.

If we are lookin for a forward, he needs to be better than this fella.
That's right, judge him on five games five years ago.

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Re: John Guidetti

Post by Winstonswhite » Tue Jun 07, 2016 1:10 pm

Funnily enough i was reading up on him this morning following his comments concerning Zlatan.

Something of a cult hero in Sweden after captaining the Under 21's to the title last year and as someone said above he looked a fantastic player- certainly a lot better than when he played for us originally

He would be a fantastic signing. Cant see it happening in a million years though

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Re: John Guidetti

Post by mkmel » Tue Jun 07, 2016 1:49 pm

Wasn't Guidetti carrying a few extra lbs when he played on loan for us which didn't help his mobility

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Re: John Guidetti

Post by claretspice » Tue Jun 07, 2016 1:55 pm

I think anyone judging Guidetti by how he performed (or didn't) for us on loan in 2010-11 is wasting their time personally. He was a kid of 18, he's now a man of 24. He's effectively a completely different player.

Rodriguez didn't set the world alight in loans at Sterling or Barnsley. Any Southampton fan judging him by reference to that when he signed for them must have looked a bit daft 18 months later.

I'd be surprised if this was a goer, but if he is a target, I like the idea.
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Re: John Guidetti

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Jun 07, 2016 2:03 pm

mkmel wrote:Wasn't Guidetti carrying a few extra lbs when he played on loan for us which didn't help his mobility
Absolutely not - the opposite, very mobile and lightening quick.

I'm pleased to see he's been able to play again in the last two years when it looked very likely that his illness had ended his career

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Re: John Guidetti

Post by Karhu_Claret » Tue Jun 07, 2016 2:09 pm

His goals from this season can be found on youtube (I'd post it but the music content is questionable). Nice variety to them; he hits the ball well and has very good movement in the channels and within the box. The one against Athletico stands out - it's an absolute peach from outside of the box.

I'd be very happy if he was wearing claret and blue next season!

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Re: John Guidetti

Post by Bones » Tue Jun 07, 2016 2:17 pm

Think he scored a pen in the nou camp when Celta got hammered last season.

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Re: John Guidetti

Post by Jambounchained » Tue Jun 07, 2016 2:37 pm

I could be totally wrong, he might add something, I don't know. None of us really do.
He just doesn't seem to have 'pulled up many trees' wherever he's been (Feyenoord aside).

I would've just preferred someone in the ilk of Blake myself.

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Re: John Guidetti

Post by Karhu_Claret » Tue Jun 07, 2016 2:41 pm

He did indeed Bones, won it himself too.

If we are in the market for a mobile, physical and technically proficient centre forward (perhaps as an upgrade on Sam) then signing Guidetti could represent a bit of a coup.

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Re: John Guidetti

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Jun 07, 2016 2:43 pm

Jambounchained wrote:I could be totally wrong, he might add something, I don't know. None of us really do.
He just doesn't seem to have 'pulled up many trees' wherever he's been (Feyenoord aside).

I would've just preferred someone in the ilk of Blake myself.
It as during his time at Feyenoord when the illness hit him and his loan was cut short. He played his last game for Feyenoord in April 2012 and didn't start another game until he'd joined Celtic in August 2014.

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Re: John Guidetti

Post by Goobs » Tue Jun 07, 2016 2:44 pm

Jambounchained wrote:I could be totally wrong, he might add something, I don't know. None of us really do.
He just doesn't seem to have 'pulled up many trees' wherever he's been (Feyenoord aside).

I would've just preferred someone in the ilk of Blake myself.
Nathan?? Robbie?? Yohan??

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Re: John Guidetti

Post by Jambounchained » Tue Jun 07, 2016 2:44 pm

Blimey, I knew nothing of an illness!

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Re: John Guidetti

Post by billyhamilton82 » Tue Jun 07, 2016 3:00 pm

For the money he would cost I would much prefer Dwight Gayle.

Similar players and would probably be a similar price although I would suggest Gayle has more pace.

Although he hasn't set the Premier League alight (mainly due to lack of opportunity) he would certainly, IMO be a more viable option.

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Re: John Guidetti

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Jun 07, 2016 3:04 pm

Jambounchained wrote:Blimey, I knew nothing of an illness!
This article is from October 2012 but it was another 22 months before he started another game
http://goo.gl/z7duiO

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Re: John Guidetti

Post by Lord Beamish » Tue Jun 07, 2016 3:06 pm

billyhamilton82 wrote:For the money he would cost I would much prefer Dwight Gayle.

Similar players and would probably be a similar price although I would suggest Gayle has more pace.

Although he hasn't set the Premier League alight (mainly due to lack of opportunity) he would certainly, IMO be a more viable option.
Rumours abound that Gayle doesn't fancy leaving the South East.

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Re: John Guidetti

Post by Jambounchained » Tue Jun 07, 2016 3:07 pm

That's absolutely crazy. Fair play to him for coming back.

How much of a transfer fee would we be looking at? Surely he wouldn't come cheap.

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Re: John Guidetti

Post by bobinho » Tue Jun 07, 2016 3:09 pm

One mans "lightening quick" is another mans "slower than a week in jail".

I seem to remember him as mkmel does. Perhaps my memory is playing tricks.

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Re: John Guidetti

Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Jun 07, 2016 4:04 pm

He's played very well in La Liga this season and destroyed Ashley Williams for Swedens 3rd goal the other night against Wales

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Re: John Guidetti

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Jun 07, 2016 4:05 pm

bobinho wrote:One mans "lightening quick" is another mans "slower than a week in jail".

I seem to remember him as mkmel does. Perhaps my memory is playing tricks.
He was very, very quick

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Re: John Guidetti

Post by quoonbeatz » Tue Jun 07, 2016 4:26 pm

i don't remember him being that quick either. he was technically good though and his movement was strong; he found space really well as i remember.

he was dubbed the swedish wayne rooney in his younger days as he had a similar body shape.

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Re: John Guidetti

Post by Rowls » Tue Jun 07, 2016 4:36 pm

I wasn't impressed when I saw him on loan.

That was getting on for six years ago though. If Dyche thinks he's worth a punt that's good enough for me.

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Re: John Guidetti

Post by OSC Burnley '55 » Tue Jun 07, 2016 4:37 pm

bartons baggage wrote:I got told he had a bad attitude,hence the lack of game time for us.
I hadn't heard that .. don't know to be fair

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Re: John Guidetti

Post by claretspice » Tue Jun 07, 2016 5:08 pm

I can't remember whether he was fat or lean, fast or slow when he played for us - I remember him being a kid who had a stocky frame but was still obviously filling into it and like Quoon I remember his movement being smart.

A quick watch of that Youtube video though suggests that whatever he once was, he's now a solidly built forward who looks more imposing than the 6"1 he's given as (so ideal for a target man) who can certainly shift when he's moving. Only highlights, but physically, he's very impressive in the reel.

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Re: John Guidetti

Post by bartons baggage » Tue Jun 07, 2016 6:05 pm

billyhamilton82 wrote:For the money he would cost I would much prefer Dwight Gayle.

Similar players and would probably be a similar price although I would suggest Gayle has more pace.

Although he hasn't set the Premier League alight (mainly due to lack of opportunity) he would certainly, IMO be a more viable option.
3 million isn't a lot.

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Re: John Guidetti

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Jun 07, 2016 6:10 pm

bartons baggage wrote:I got told he had a bad attitude,hence the lack of game time for us.
Not what I was told - but Man City took him back once Laws had gone - think the deal had been done with someone at City who was a mate of Laws.



Was thinking, a summer without a Guidetti link wouldn't be a summer. We get one every year.

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Re: John Guidetti

Post by claretspice » Tue Jun 07, 2016 6:14 pm

Isn't the bad attitude thing a reference to Chalobah?

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Re: John Guidetti

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Jun 07, 2016 6:16 pm

claretspice wrote:Isn't the bad attitude thing a reference to Chalobah?
Certainly wasn't Guidetti from what I've been told.

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Re: John Guidetti

Post by bartons baggage » Tue Jun 07, 2016 6:24 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Not what I was told - but Man City took him back once Laws had gone - think the deal had been done with someone at City who was a mate of Laws.



Was thinking, a summer without a Guidetti link wouldn't be a summer. We get one every year.
The bad attitude was chabola, well that's what i got told.

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Re: John Guidetti

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Jun 07, 2016 6:26 pm

bartons baggage wrote:The bad attitude was chabola, well that's what i got told.
I think it was obvious something wasn't right given our shortage of midfield players at the time and him not getting a game. He's done well at Napoli though, made 5 sub appearances in Serie A.

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Re: John Guidetti

Post by bartons baggage » Tue Jun 07, 2016 6:40 pm

True, i hope there is some truth in the Guidetti thing though,he looks something like a player and with the input of Dyche,well who knows.

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