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Re: Andy Robertson

Post by Pommieclaret » Sat Jul 11, 2020 10:14 pm

Cock

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Re: Andy Robertson

Post by Steve1956 » Sat Jul 11, 2020 10:15 pm

Bitterman...and a poor loser typical Liverpool always the victims

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Re: Andy Robertson

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sat Jul 11, 2020 10:22 pm

Very disrespectful.

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Re: Andy Robertson

Post by NewClaret » Sat Jul 11, 2020 10:33 pm

Surely some form of retrospective action for that behaviour now it’s been caught on camera?

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Re: Andy Robertson

Post by Hibsclaret » Sat Jul 11, 2020 10:35 pm

Tbh Klopp should be moving Robertson away from the officials as his manager.

For a team to have the guard of honour onto the pitch and behave like that at the end is beyond embarrassing...absolute lacking in class as usual

Robertson should be charged absolutely
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Re: Andy Robertson

Post by Rowls » Sat Jul 11, 2020 10:37 pm

It's understandable he's annoyed because they didn't win but the language and his lack of respect towards authority ought to be a booking - at least.

Little wonder player's don't respect the officials when they ignore and put up with foul language like that.

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Re: Andy Robertson

Post by Burnley1989 » Sat Jul 11, 2020 10:37 pm

I Love it, he’s pumped up and cares, exactly how I am after a game... call it bad sportsmanship but he does have a bit of a point. No harm just passion

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Re: Andy Robertson

Post by Rowls » Sat Jul 11, 2020 10:39 pm

Burnley1989 wrote:
Sat Jul 11, 2020 10:37 pm
I Love it, he’s pumped up and cares, exactly how I am after a game... call it bad sportsmanship but he does have a bit of a point. No harm just passion
Passion is fine. Swearing and insulting a referee needs punishing. He should have been booked as a minimum.

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Re: Andy Robertson

Post by Burnley1989 » Sat Jul 11, 2020 10:40 pm

Rowls, the guys a dick...

I’m joking mate but I would be exactly the same tbf

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Re: Andy Robertson

Post by Rowls » Sat Jul 11, 2020 10:42 pm

They're simply not used to not winning all the time.

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Re: Andy Robertson

Post by Hibsclaret » Sat Jul 11, 2020 10:48 pm

I’d love it if a ref gave some back tbh. Why is it ok for someone to be abused like that and not respond? The ref should either book him or fire something back just as insulting.
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Re: Andy Robertson

Post by Iloveyoubrady » Sat Jul 11, 2020 10:50 pm

Hibsclaret wrote:
Sat Jul 11, 2020 10:48 pm
I’d love it if a ref gave some back tbh. Why is it ok for someone to be abused like that and not respond? The ref should either book him or fire something back just as insulting.

Imagine the refs firing back abuse :mrgreen:
Problem is society puts footballers with their huge wages on a pedestal

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Re: Andy Robertson

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sat Jul 11, 2020 10:53 pm

Burnley1989 wrote:
Sat Jul 11, 2020 10:37 pm
I Love it, he’s pumped up and cares, exactly how I am after a game... call it bad sportsmanship but he does have a bit of a point. No harm just passion
Nah. He’s trying to influence them and intimidate them for next time. Hopefully that ref and linesman doesn’t forget it.

Passion and frustrations fine.

Out of order.

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Re: Andy Robertson

Post by Hibsclaret » Sat Jul 11, 2020 10:54 pm

Iloveyoubrady wrote:
Sat Jul 11, 2020 10:50 pm
Imagine the refs firing back abuse :mrgreen:
Problem is society puts footballers with their huge wages on a pedestal
Yes, something along the lines of you foul mouthed sweaty so and so would have worked a treat from the man with the whistle

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Re: Andy Robertson

Post by Bin Ont Turf » Sat Jul 11, 2020 10:54 pm

It's things like that and what Jurgen the German has said, why you can't even breathe on a goalkeeper.

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Re: Andy Robertson

Post by QSclaret » Sat Jul 11, 2020 11:13 pm

This sort of stuff gets said every week without fail. We’ve only heard it because the lack of fans. I don’t think any of the obscenities are aimed at the ref in a foul/abusive way, they’re more to make a point. (I.e it’s more how the f is that not a pen rather that ref you’re an f ing that).

There’s a lot of confidence with Burnley fans that JBG got a touch on the ball, I’m not 100%, it’s very minimal if anything and I think if it was the other way we’d be calling the ref for big team bias.

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Re: Andy Robertson

Post by Middle-agedClaret » Sat Jul 11, 2020 11:13 pm

Pathetic behaviour.
All this c**p about Liverpool and Klopp being classy and sporting - the player was petulant (not passionate) and the manager abject.
But it’s always funny to see a whining Scot.😀
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Re: Andy Robertson

Post by Hibsclaret » Sat Jul 11, 2020 11:29 pm

QSclaret wrote:
Sat Jul 11, 2020 11:13 pm


There’s a lot of confidence with Burnley fans that JBG got a touch on the ball, I’m not 100%, it’s very minimal if anything and I think if it was the other way we’d be calling the ref for big team bias.
Whether it was a pen or not the ref gave nothing and it was not a (clear and obvious) error. Therefore, no pen and move on. Robertson was like a spoilt brat....
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Re: Andy Robertson

Post by NewClaret » Sat Jul 11, 2020 11:30 pm

Can you give a red after a match?

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Re: Andy Robertson

Post by Dinks » Sat Jul 11, 2020 11:33 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Sat Jul 11, 2020 11:30 pm
Can you give a red after a match?
I'm sure you can,but this goes on all the time,nothing to see here move on!

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Re: Andy Robertson

Post by NewClaret » Sat Jul 11, 2020 11:34 pm

Dinks wrote:
Sat Jul 11, 2020 11:33 pm
I'm sure you can,but this goes on all the time,nothing to see here move on!
Sure it does. That doesn’t make it right.

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Re: Andy Robertson

Post by Dinks » Sat Jul 11, 2020 11:36 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Sat Jul 11, 2020 11:34 pm
Sure it does. That doesn’t make it right.
I didnt say it did!

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Re: Andy Robertson

Post by tim_noone » Sat Jul 11, 2020 11:38 pm

Hibsclaret wrote:
Sat Jul 11, 2020 10:48 pm
I’d love it if a ref gave some back tbh. Why is it ok for someone to be abused like that and not respond? The ref should either book him or fire something back just as insulting.
Dennis Orr would have Decked Him.... End Of! :D
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Re: Andy Robertson

Post by claretblue » Sat Jul 11, 2020 11:39 pm

Dinks wrote:
Sat Jul 11, 2020 11:33 pm
I'm sure you can,but this goes on all the time,nothing to see here move on!
Yes...can give red card after match!

who was the manager who was fined after berating the ref after a match at Turf Moor?

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Re: Andy Robertson

Post by NewClaret » Sat Jul 11, 2020 11:39 pm

Dinks wrote:
Sat Jul 11, 2020 11:36 pm
I didnt say it did!
We don’t do it (I don’t think), so should be stopped.

If I were a ref I’d either have to give it some back or send anyone off that spoke to me like that.

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Re: Andy Robertson

Post by Dinks » Sat Jul 11, 2020 11:41 pm

claretblue wrote:
Sat Jul 11, 2020 11:39 pm
Yes...can give red card after match!

who was the manager who was fined after berating the ref after a match at Turf Moor?
Poch?

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Re: Andy Robertson

Post by tiger76 » Sat Jul 11, 2020 11:43 pm

claretblue wrote:
Sat Jul 11, 2020 11:39 pm
Yes...can give red card after match!

who was the manager who was fined after berating the ref after a match at Turf Moor?
Poch? i remember he had a memorable meltdown after we beat them last season.

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Re: Andy Robertson

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Jul 12, 2020 12:32 am

I posted the link not because of the language he used etc - I just didn't understand his point. What was he complaining about ? JBG gets the ball so no pen, no fouls on set pieces etc - I like Robertson and I'm pleased someone who isn't a big name has gone on to do good things, I just have no clue what game he thinks he played in

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Re: Andy Robertson

Post by Caballo » Sun Jul 12, 2020 8:39 am

What a sap, to quote Mike Skinner " Dry your eyes mate"
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Re: Andy Robertson

Post by mdd2 » Sun Jul 12, 2020 8:42 am

NewClaret wrote:
Sat Jul 11, 2020 11:30 pm
Can you give a red after a match?
Didn't Sheff Utd get a second red at Wembley in 2009 after the final whistle?

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Re: Andy Robertson

Post by Blackrod » Sun Jul 12, 2020 9:22 am

No amount of money can buy class. Sadly that is something he will never have. Can’t believe Dyche would allow that sort of behaviour towards officials. Needs hauling before the FA. Bitter. The behaviour since project restart has been noticeably good towards officials. This isn’t.
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Re: Andy Robertson

Post by AfloatinClaret » Sun Jul 12, 2020 9:28 am

NewClaret wrote:
Sat Jul 11, 2020 11:30 pm
Can you give a red after a match?
Oh yes, I once got one and to be fair, I deserved it.

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Re: Andy Robertson

Post by jdrobbo » Sun Jul 12, 2020 9:52 am

Lee Hendrie was sent off after our play off final game with Sheffield United

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Re: Andy Robertson

Post by BenWickes » Sun Jul 12, 2020 10:03 am

Blackrod wrote:
Sun Jul 12, 2020 9:22 am
No amount of money can buy class. Sadly that is something he will never have. Can’t believe Dyche would allow that sort of behaviour towards officials.
We almost signed Robertson before Liverpool nipped in. Agree, don't think Dyche would have approved if it had been his player.

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Re: Andy Robertson

Post by Red Fox Rocks Socks » Sun Jul 12, 2020 10:12 am

BenWickes wrote:
Sun Jul 12, 2020 10:03 am
We almost signed Robertson before Liverpool nipped in. Agree, don't think Dyche would have approved if it had been his player.
I can understand his frustration for the pen. He will think he got wiped out and prob won’t know there was a touch of the ball and/or the contact was outside the box.

How he’s put it across is the issue. Shouldn’t be behaving like that and if he does it should be addressed with a ban.

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Re: Andy Robertson

Post by BenWickes » Sun Jul 12, 2020 10:15 am

Red Fox Rocks Socks wrote:
Sun Jul 12, 2020 10:12 am
I can understand his frustration for the pen. He will think he got wiped out and prob won’t know there was a touch of the ball and/or the contact was outside the box.

How he’s put it across is the issue. Shouldn’t be behaving like that and if he does it should be addressed with a ban.
Not disagreeing it wasn't a penalty. JBG got the ball first. Would have been very soft if it had been given.

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Re: Andy Robertson

Post by Darthlaw » Sun Jul 12, 2020 10:17 am

In Rugby he’d be missing a few games then again, they’ve successfully built a culture of respect for their refs.

Quite why football can’t build the same is beyond me. The ref could have given Robertson a red for that tirade and could have been easily backed up by PGMOL. Scousers aside, not many fans would argue with a red for that.

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Re: Andy Robertson

Post by IanMcL » Sun Jul 12, 2020 10:19 am

QSclaret wrote:
Sat Jul 11, 2020 11:13 pm
This sort of stuff gets said every week without fail. We’ve only heard it because the lack of fans. I don’t think any of the obscenities are aimed at the ref in a foul/abusive way, they’re more to make a point. (I.e it’s more how the f is that not a pen rather that ref you’re an f ing that).

There’s a lot of confidence with Burnley fans that JBG got a touch on the ball, I’m not 100%, it’s very minimal if anything and I think if it was the other way we’d be calling the ref for big team bias.
He did.

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Re: Andy Robertson

Post by ClaretLoup » Sun Jul 12, 2020 10:19 am

Not clear and obvious that Robertson is even in the box.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1281984717043245057
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Re: Andy Robertson

Post by Hibsclaret » Sun Jul 12, 2020 10:24 am

You can understand it if the points lost could cause you potential relegation or to miss out on the league title etc. When you’ve won the league by 20 odd points it is embarrassing and Klopp should have pulled him away from the officials instead of adding his own twopenneth.

Tbh the reason there is limited respect for officials is partly because they do nothing in circumstances like that. If the ref shows him the red card there can be no complaints and that’s what he should do.

I’d love to be a journo at the next conference with Klopp because my question would be ‘why did u stand there and allow one of your players to abuse an official at full time without you doing anything about it’

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Re: Andy Robertson

Post by Ashingtonclaret46 » Sun Jul 12, 2020 10:27 am

There is nothing to discuss. Joey is in front of Robertson, stretches and plays the ball and Robertson manufactures the contact by running into Joey's legs. This is happening more and more in the modern game and is just an attempt to 'win' a penalty by conning the officials.

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Re: Andy Robertson

Post by IanMcL » Sun Jul 12, 2020 10:28 am

Poor from Klopp.

It was though he thought....I am not allowed to abuse refs but hey, my nan is doing a good job - I'll stand with him, so they know I agree with him..

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Re: Andy Robertson

Post by Hibsclaret » Sun Jul 12, 2020 10:29 am

This is VAR working as designed.

If the ref gives the pen it should not be overturned.
If the ref does not give the pen it should not be overturned.

The reason is that nothing about it is clear and obvious.

The ref did not give it so move on and stop whining you cheating Scottish so and so.

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Re: Andy Robertson

Post by DCWat » Sun Jul 12, 2020 10:39 am

His comments to the ref warrant retrospective punishment.

It also puts the referee in a bad light, him just ignoring the language and insults. It’s no wonder players feel that it’s fine to argue with referees, if this is the sort of thing that they can get away with.
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Re: Andy Robertson

Post by Firthy » Sun Jul 12, 2020 11:16 am

https://twitter.com/i/status/1281984717043245057

The more I watch this, the more I'm convinced that Robertson is a ******* cheat. JBG controls the ball poorly, realises someone is running in on him and sticks his legs out to poke the ball away. Robertson makes no attempt to get ther ball and knows he can't get it so drags his right foot along the ground to make sure he gets contact with JBG's leg. IMO this is a blatant and very clever attempt to win a penalty, the most unbelievable thing for me is that he even convinced himself it was a penalty and had the cheek to confront the referee about it.

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Re: Andy Robertson

Post by mdd2 » Sun Jul 12, 2020 11:33 am

Well apart from 1) Gudmonsson was in front of Robertson at all times leading up to the "foul" 2) He got to the ball and played it before Robertson got there, 3) Robertson clattered into Johann's legs when Johann was grounded 4) Any infringement was outside the box. With those provisos it is a tad hard to see why a penalty should have been given. Finally 6) a decent pro would have jumped to avoid Johann's legs.
All that takes any admiration I have for Pool's success significantly watered down unless Robertson and Klopp have been on the phone to apologise to the ref and if that occurred I think we can assume hell will freeze over.
Oh and how Lineker, Wright and Murphy can say it was a definite penalty suggest they all need eye tests as there is no way it was in the box.
Even the BT commentators get it wrong. Gudmonsson did not catch Robertson, Robertson caught Johann
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Re: Andy Robertson

Post by IanMcL » Sun Jul 12, 2020 11:38 am

Firthy wrote:
Sun Jul 12, 2020 11:16 am
https://twitter.com/i/status/1281984717043245057

The more I watch this, the more I'm convinced that Robertson is a ******* cheat. JBG controls the ball poorly, realises someone is running in on him and sticks his legs out to poke the ball away. Robertson makes no attempt to get ther ball and knows he can't get it so drags his right foot along the ground to make sure he gets contact with JBG's leg. IMO this is a blatant and very clever attempt to win a penalty, the most unbelievable thing for me is that he even convinced himself it was a penalty and had the cheek to confront the referee about it.
Unfortunately, on another day, Mr Friend may have been officiating and looking for such an incident, to bestow 3 points.

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Re: Andy Robertson

Post by IanMcL » Sun Jul 12, 2020 11:39 am

Perhaps, because the championship is won, refs can now be fair to the rest.
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Re: Andy Robertson

Post by mdd2 » Sun Jul 12, 2020 11:39 am

Would have been a real shocker if that had been given

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Re: Andy Robertson

Post by Firthy » Sun Jul 12, 2020 11:43 am

mdd2 wrote:
Sun Jul 12, 2020 11:39 am
Would have been a real shocker if that had been given
I think this board would have gone into meltdown if it had and we lost 2-1 because of it :shock: :roll:

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