Man City Appeal result at 9:30 BST

cdgoodwill · Post by **cdgoodwill** » Mon Jul 13, 2020 1:23 am

BBC have done an article about it.

The article also shows how even the team in 9th place could get into the Europa League, although it would require Man City to be banned next season, Wolves to win the Europa League AND the team that wins the fa cup to finish higher than 8th (so Arsenal could ruin that as well).

Let's hope for some good news!

Clarets4me · Post by **Clarets4me** » Mon Jul 13, 2020 1:39 am

Call me cynical, but I rather think City will be in Europe next year ...

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Mon Jul 13, 2020 6:27 am

They wont get banned

summitclaret · Post by **summitclaret** » Mon Jul 13, 2020 7:01 am

Are the BBC correct? I thought that the max a country could have in Europe was 7 teams. They also make the assumption that United will finish in the top 5.

mdd2 · Post by **mdd2** » Mon Jul 13, 2020 8:14 am

summitclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 13, 2020 7:01 am
Are the BBC correct? I thought that the max a country could have in Europe was 7 teams. They also make the assumption that United will finish in the top 5.

Don't think United will mess up now. After all Leicester and Palace haven't.

MarkGreen · Post by **MarkGreen** » Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:33 am

Upheld

Bigvince · Post by **Bigvince** » Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:35 am

Ban lifted surprise surprise, what’s the point of fair play

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:35 am

Basically clubs can spend what they like

FFP is dead in the water.

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:37 am

Disgrace.

Funkydrummer · Post by **Funkydrummer** » Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:39 am

Football plummeting towards the depths of corruption IMO.

The authorities are slowly strangling the life out of the game as we knew it.

Disgraceful decision and clearly demonstrates that rules are meant to be broken (without sanction in many,many cases)

Gordaleman · Post by **Gordaleman** » Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:39 am

10 million Euro fine. Loose change to the oil sheiks.

MarkGreen · Post by **MarkGreen** » Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:39 am

Spijed wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:35 am
Basically clubs can spend what they like

FFP is dead in the water.

At least Garlic can splash the cash now!

Down_Rover · Post by **Down_Rover** » Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:40 am

Another nail in the coffin for the beautiful game. Fast becoming the most uncompetitive sport in the world

Barry_Chuckle · Post by **Barry_Chuckle** » Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:40 am

No ban, €10million Euro fine

Funkydrummer · Post by **Funkydrummer** » Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:41 am

Why the fine if they've done nothing illegal ? Beggars belief.

Gordaleman · Post by **Gordaleman** » Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:42 am

MarkGreen wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:39 am
At least Garlic can splash the cash now!

I really don't think that this decision will have any impact at all on Mr Garlick's (With a K.) spending.

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:43 am

Can someone explain to me how, if they have done nothing wrong, they are still being fined 10m?

Belial · Post by **Belial** » Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:43 am

Pathetic. Money ruling and ruining football at all levels.

10m won't harm them, but a season without being an active team will do more damage

Farce

Dyched · Post by **Dyched** » Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:44 am

Corruption has always been in football. Let’s stop this pretence that football was so much more genuine and beautiful in the past.

Kgun5 · Post by **Kgun5** » Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:45 am

The court didn't rule they did nothing wrong. They just said they weren't guilty of anything other than being uncooperative with UEFA during the investigation.

ŽižkovClaret · Post by **ŽižkovClaret** » Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:46 am

Honestly, i don't think any club finishing 8th or below should qualify for Europe. It is supposed to be the best clubs from each nation.

If we are to play in Europe we should have earned it.

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:47 am

Rottten to the core. £10m is no punishment as it’s loose change to the oil barons.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:48 am

Is there a more despised club in football?

Kgun5 · Post by **Kgun5** » Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:48 am

ZizkovClaret wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:46 am
Honestly, i don't think any club finishing 8th or below should qualify for Europe. It is supposed to be the best clubs from each nation.

If we are to play in Europe we should have earned it.

I disagree, but would be for having the Cup berths pass down to the runners up rather than go to the league.

Zlatan · Post by **Zlatan** » Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:48 am

Blackrod wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:47 am
Rottten to the core. £10m is no punishment as it’s loose change to the oil barons.

that's the equivalent of a Jeff Hendrick...

mkmel · Post by **mkmel** » Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:48 am

10M euros fine!

That'll teach them not to cheat!!!!!!

Zlatan · Post by **Zlatan** » Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:49 am

question - if they did nothing wrong... why the fine...?

Down_Rover · Post by **Down_Rover** » Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:50 am

ZizkovClaret wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:46 am
Honestly, i don't think any club finishing 8th or below should qualify for Europe. It is supposed to be the best clubs from each nation.

If we are to play in Europe we should have earned it.

That is not the point that anyone is making.

This is not just about this season it is about every future season.

The owners with the access to the most money will just buy success.

mkmel · Post by **mkmel** » Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:52 am

Who is the chairman of the Court of Arbitration in Sport....Sepp Blatter?

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:55 am

I suspect this means there is no legal barrier to Newcastle being taken over.

That was being looked out, but I presume all rules relating to ownership are out of the window.

RalphCoatesComb · Post by **RalphCoatesComb** » Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:00 am

mkmel wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:48 am
10M euros fine!

That'll teach them not to cheat!!!!!!

It's not called cheating when you're that rich. It's called man-i-pul-a-tion

Stalbansclaret · Post by **Stalbansclaret** » Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:03 am

Qatar getting the World Cup was so ludicrous a decision that it proved beyond doubt that football governance was completely in thrall to the money of the super-rich. This decision just predictably follows the same path.

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:04 am

Zlatan wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:49 am
question - if they did nothing wrong... why the fine...?

Seems it was overturned because there was insufficient evidence, but the 10m euro fine was for failure to cooperate with UEFA's investigation. Which of course they wouldn't, given they are guilty.

Joke.

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:06 am

As a minimum around this, the sentence should have been suspended for 5 years so that they had to clean up their act. Now they are completely off the hook.

Gordaleman · Post by **Gordaleman** » Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:06 am

John Murray BBC Radio 5 Live.

On whether verdict damages Uefa’s Financial Fair Play rules: “You’d have to say it does. It has gone against Uefa, who wanted to be strong on Financial Fair Play, but this outcome turns the focus back on Uefa, their FFP regulations and the power they have to restrict the increasing power of the superclubs, the superpowers, of European football, and try to make it more of a level playing field, which was the original intention of Financial Fair Play.

“Uefa will have to go back and look at this very carefully because this very directly challenges and undermines the powers Uefa have on that front.”

Kgun5 · Post by **Kgun5** » Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:07 am

NewClaret wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:04 am
Seems it was overturned because there was insufficient evidence, but the 10m euro fine was for failure to cooperate with UEFA's investigation. Which of course they wouldn't, given they are guilty.

Joke.

The court also ruled that some of the charges were more than five years old, which is apparently UEFA's window of opportunity to prosecute.

bfccrazy · Post by **bfccrazy** » Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:07 am

So a 10 million fine - which is going to be paid whilst receiving 15 million minimum for qualifying for the group stages of the Champions League. (Plus another couple of million for each game they win in the champs league on top)

UEFA LOGIC!!!!

Gordaleman · Post by **Gordaleman** » Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:09 am

At least this decision will upset the Man Ure fans, so it's not all bad.

Every cloud has a silver lining.

JohnMac · Post by **JohnMac** » Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:09 am

Totally shocked this has been overturned!

Only joking, I'm not in the least bit shocked that another super rich Club has circumvented the rules.

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:12 am

Spijed wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:48 am
Is there a more despised club in football?

There’s one about to be promoted to the PL for a start...

Woodleyclaret · Post by **Woodleyclaret** » Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:14 am

Corruption rules ok

AlargeClaret · Post by **AlargeClaret** » Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:21 am

How in holy hell has this been overturned ? This stinks to high heaven

Roosterbooster · Post by **Roosterbooster** » Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:27 am

People can moan as much as they want, but City have convinced the highest sports court possible that they did not break the rules. And quite frankly, I didnt think there was going to be any other outcome. The rules are the problem, not the decision to follow them. UEFA are the problem here, not City

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:36 am

Now we all know why City were so confident, so much for FFP, it clearly only applies to the minions.

It's estimated a run to the qf's, which you'd expect City to manage, will earn them £80-90m, so £10m is hardly likely to harm them.

It's hardly a surprise, the suspicion for several weeks is this would be the outcome. And lo and behold that proved to be the case.

Makes Leicester's defeat yesterday all the more damaging.

Burnley Ace · Post by **Burnley Ace** » Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:38 am

This is CAS not UEFA.

Zlatan · Post by **Zlatan** » Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:48 am

So, in summary if you have enough money Financial Fair Play doesn't matter

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:50 am

Zlatan wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:48 am
So, in summary if you have enough money Financial Fair Play doesn't matter

I think you've hit the nail on the head.

Woonderbah · Post by **Woonderbah** » Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:56 am

FFP RIP

gandhisflipflop · Post by **gandhisflipflop** » Mon Jul 13, 2020 11:06 am

I'm absolutely staggered. I'm more annoyed at myself for being so naive to think the decision would be a moral one. Another nail in the coffin for the sport and apart from bfc, I'm literally done with the game on a professional level. I'd sooner go and watch cricket or padiham.

claretblue · Post by **claretblue** » Mon Jul 13, 2020 11:53 am

waiting VAR on this decision!