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Horsefiddlers can’t reach play-offs.
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& only a fortnight to Lockdown 2
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They might even finish below Nobbers and Wigan, how funny that would be.
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Always loved Millwall. Be a long trip home
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They've turned on Tony......again...
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Who do they think would do any better with their squad, he's a decent manager at that level, and despite the backing of the Venky's Rovers aren't awash with money.
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To make it an almost perfect season we need to win our 3 remaining games and for the Venkys to get rid of him. He's been the best thing to happen to the club for about a decade, and he's a decent a chap too. I'm sure he'll find another post quickly.
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I thought Wigan's point deduction got rolled over to next season in the event of them not being relegated, if this isn't the case as happened with Birmingham last season, it's hardly much of a deterrent not to go into administration, if you are still playing in the same division, and are starting on a level playing field with every other team come the start of next season.nil_desperandum wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 10:01 pmI think it would take something extraordinary to happen for them to finish below Wigan.
It's likely they'll finish below PNE, who are 2 points ahead and with a game in hand, it's not out of the question that PNE could yet squeak into the top 6, but they'll have to collect 9 points.
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I’m not sure. Wigan are three points behind with two games to play, and just won 8-0.nil_desperandum wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 10:01 pmI think it would take something extraordinary to happen for them to finish below Wigan.
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You actually find it funny do you that two towns, close to Burnley are having problems with the virus, along with another town on the other side of Burnley in Pendle?
Sorry, words fail me.
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Agreed.nil_desperandum wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 10:23 pmTo make it an almost perfect season we need to win our 3 remaining games and for the Venkys to get rid of him. He's been the best thing to happen to the club for about a decade, and he's a decent a chap too. I'm sure he'll find another post quickly.
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They don’t have the option.tiger76 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 10:30 pmI thought Wigan's point deduction got rolled over to next season in the event of them not being relegated, if this isn't the case as happened with Birmingham last season, it's hardly much of a deterrent not to go into administration, if you are still playing in the same division, and are starting on a level playing field with every other team come the start of next season.
It's likely they'll finish below PNE, who are 2 points ahead and with a game in hand, it's not out of the question that PNE could yet squeak into the top 6, but they'll have to collect 9 points.
A)if they are relegated without loss of points. 12 deducted next season.
B)if they stay up with 12 deducted the 12 are not deducted until next season.
C) if the -12 points relegate them they go down.
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Perhaps most significantly it's the town with which we share an NHS Trust and Hospital, so any measures applied to Blackburn will most likely impact on us negatively in many ways.ClaretTony wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 10:39 pmYou actually find it funny do you that two towns, close to Burnley are having problems with the virus, along with another town on the other side of Burnley in Pendle?
Sorry, words fail me.
(And of course many of our friends and family members in Burnley work at the Blackburn Hospital.)
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Yes, but surely you're aware that if Wigan end up outside the bottom 3 then they get a 12 point deduction this season.
They can't now end up in the bottom 3 (with their current points tally) so unless Rovers go into admin this week then they can't finish above them.
(Basically as things stand Wigan have 45 points so they really need at least a few more points to stay up)
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Including two of my close relativesnil_desperandum wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 11:24 pmPerhaps most significantly it's the town with which we share an NHS Trust and Hospital, so any measures applied to Blackburn will most likely impact on us negatively in many ways.
(And of course many of our friends and family members in Burnley work at the Blackburn Hospital.)
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That's not correct and unless you've explained it badly it appears in option B that you're deducting them 24 pts.huw.Y.WattfromWare wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 11:21 pmThey don’t have the option.
A)if they are relegated without loss of points. 12 deducted next season.
B)if they stay up with 12 deducted the 12 are not deducted until next season.
C) if the -12 points relegate them they go down.
It's really straightforward, this is the ruling:
There are only 2 options."The sanction will be applied at the end of this season if the Latics finish outside the bottom three after 46 games.
Should Wigan finish in the relegation zone, the penalty will be applied during the 2020-21 season instead."
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Will the Venkys give it another season ? No promotion and much reduced income. Not even any revenue from the play offs. Not saying they don’t have the money but at some stage they will want a return both on and off the field. Be interesting at the end of the season to compare the revenues of us and them.
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I was having a conversation with two of my Rovers' supporting mates who were convinced they were going up just a few weeks ago. I applauded them and Mowbray in particular for getting them even close with that squad. I had pointed out that they simply weren't good enough to sustain their run of form with that squad. Strangely they still blame Venky's despite them bankrolling the club. They did begrudgingly admit we're doing well and wish they had a board and a manager like ours.
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Reading the comments on the LET site, they seem to favour Chris Hughton as Mowbray's replacement.
Firstly can they afford him? and secondly would he go there.
I can't see them holding onto Dack now, but i suppose his serious injury might make clubs think twice about paying large money for him.
Either way he'll miss a large chunk of the new season, so that's a big blow to them already.
I don't think the penny's dropped with some of their support, that if the Venky's pull out they're up a creek without a paddle.
Their accounts don't make pretty reading that's for sure, and another season in the Championship won't improve matters in that department.
Firstly can they afford him? and secondly would he go there.
I can't see them holding onto Dack now, but i suppose his serious injury might make clubs think twice about paying large money for him.
Either way he'll miss a large chunk of the new season, so that's a big blow to them already.
I don't think the penny's dropped with some of their support, that if the Venky's pull out they're up a creek without a paddle.
Their accounts don't make pretty reading that's for sure, and another season in the Championship won't improve matters in that department.
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I’m more than happy for Hughton to win manager of the season for not getting Rovers promoted like he did with Brighton.tiger76 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 12:32 pmReading the comments on the LET site, they seem to favour Chris Hughton as Mowbray's replacement.
Firstly can they afford him? and secondly would he go there.
I can't see them holding onto Dack now, but i suppose his serious injury might make clubs think twice about paying large money for him.
Either way he'll miss a large chunk of the new season, so that's a big blow to them already.
I don't think the penny's dropped with some of their support, that if the Venky's pull out they're up a creek without a paddle.
Their accounts don't make pretty reading that's for sure, and another season in the Championship won't improve matters in that department.
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Dack has been doing what he likes best...FactualFrank wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 12:39 pmI read that Dack is due back at the end of this month?
Watching his M8's perform from the shadows
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He did his ACL late last year and it's usually 9 - 12 months for full recovery so will do well to play this calendar year.FactualFrank wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 12:39 pmI read that Dack is due back at the end of this month?
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In time for the playoffs?FactualFrank wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 12:39 pmI read that Dack is due back at the end of this month?
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ACL'S are usually about a year for a full recovery, so even if he's back training i can't see him playing for a few months, and perhaps more importantly he's ooc in 2021, so unless he signs a new deal they face losing him for nothing next year, of course they could choose to cash in ASAP, but they'll do well to get more than £10m for him in this market, even discounting his current long-term injury.
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Good points. Also his rehab and recovery might have been affected by new arrangements due to Covid.tiger76 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:14 pmACL'S are usually about a year for a full recovery, so even if he's back training i can't see him playing for a few months, and perhaps more importantly he's ooc in 2021, so unless he signs a new deal they face losing him for nothing next year, of course they could choose to cash in ASAP, but they'll do well to get more than £10m for him in this market, even discounting his current long-term injury.
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Really no point speculating about Dack at this stage given the history of those who've had similar injuries. I don't think he currently has much value to Blackburn since no one can predict how the injury will affect him when he finally begins to train and play again.
There's a big problem for Blackburn I think because - so far as I'm aware his contract expires next summer. So - given the nature of his injury and lack of game-time - it would not make much sense for any club to come in with a big money bid in the next 6 months, and from his point of view, he may as well spend the next 9 months trying to get fit and put himself in the "shop window" since he willl be a free agent and could sign for anyone next June, if he proves himself.
Alternatively Blackburn could offer him a new deal, but given his situation he'll probably want a lot of money, and it would be reckless of them to tie him up on an expensive deal at this stage when he hasn't really kicked a ball for 8 months or so.
Edit: I note that his contract situation has been alluded to in the previous posts whilst I was typing!
There's a big problem for Blackburn I think because - so far as I'm aware his contract expires next summer. So - given the nature of his injury and lack of game-time - it would not make much sense for any club to come in with a big money bid in the next 6 months, and from his point of view, he may as well spend the next 9 months trying to get fit and put himself in the "shop window" since he willl be a free agent and could sign for anyone next June, if he proves himself.
Alternatively Blackburn could offer him a new deal, but given his situation he'll probably want a lot of money, and it would be reckless of them to tie him up on an expensive deal at this stage when he hasn't really kicked a ball for 8 months or so.
Edit: I note that his contract situation has been alluded to in the previous posts whilst I was typing!
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Given his injury and contract situation (+ the post-Covid financial fallout), I really don't think he has any value at present unless a club has enough money to afford a big gamble.
There'll be better bargains around in the Championship for PL clubs who have a bit of money, and I don't think Championship clubs will be financially secure enough to to take risks on players who are just coming back from an injury of this type.
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Yes it's a tricky poser for Rovers, if they don't offer him a new contract, which i believe they have, or more pertinently if he or his agent don't commit his future to Rovers, they're caught between a rock and a hard place, they aren't likely to attract much interest in him until he's proven his fitness, but by the time he's proved his fitness he'll probably be in the last 6 months of his contract, and any transfer fee would be nominal, the best Rovers can hope for is he plays for a couple of months, and they get a bid in the winter window, if there is a winter window this season, and they can insert a sell-on clause, if they could manage that, then a couple of years down the line they might be in for a windfall, but it doesn't help them much in the immediate future.nil_desperandum wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:21 pmReally no point speculating about Dack at this stage given the history of those who've had similar injuries. I don't think he currently has much value to Blackburn since no one can predict how the injury will affect him when he finally begins to train and play again.
There's a big problem for Blackburn I think because - so far as I'm aware his contract expires next summer. So - given the nature of his injury and lack of game-time - it would not make much sense for any club to come in with a big money bid in the next 6 months, and from his point of view, he may as well spend the next 9 months trying to get fit and put himself in the "shop window" since he willl be a free agent and could sign for anyone next June, if he proves himself.
Alternatively Blackburn could offer him a new deal, but given his situation he'll probably want a lot of money, and it would be reckless of them to tie him up on an expensive deal at this stage when he hasn't really kicked a ball for 8 months or so.
Edit: I note that his contract situation has been alluded to in the previous posts whilst I was typing!
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Dack wasn’t fit to lace Hendricks boots even before the injury. Guess Rovers will get same as we got for Jeff
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https://youtu.be/z4uivPpzCGotiger76 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:31 pmYes it's a tricky poser for Rovers, if they don't offer him a new contract, which i believe they have, or more pertinently if he or his agent don't commit his future to Rovers, they're caught between a rock and a hard place, they aren't likely to attract much interest in him until he's proven his fitness, but by the time he's proved his fitness he'll probably be in the last 6 months of his contract, and any transfer fee would be nominal, the best Rovers can hope for is he plays for a couple of months, and they get a bid in the winter window, if there is a winter window this season, and they can insert a sell-on clause, if they could manage that, then a couple of years down the line they might be in for a windfall, but it doesn't help them much in the immediate future.
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I wonder if Dack's well publicized off-field difficulties would put off many clubs ..... One of his court appearances was responsible for one of my favorite thread titles on here, namely ..... " D**k Dack in Dock " !!
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Whatever happens this season has turned out quite good eh? Barring disasters we are gonna finish top half, especially with two exceedingly winnable games left. Maybe even Europe but alas that is not in our hands but a record (for us) number of top flight points is very likely. Add to that the Barstewards vain hopes of a play off place came to a stuttering halt last night. Football life for us doesn’t get much better really.
On a more sinister note though I’d hate to see lockdown there. I had to go to Blackburn hospital this morning and couldn’t find a parking space then discovered the whole lower car park is now a Covid testing point with a fairly regular flow of vehicles going in. Sad to see and I really hope they don’t have a problem. We might hate their football club but no town deserves that.
On a more sinister note though I’d hate to see lockdown there. I had to go to Blackburn hospital this morning and couldn’t find a parking space then discovered the whole lower car park is now a Covid testing point with a fairly regular flow of vehicles going in. Sad to see and I really hope they don’t have a problem. We might hate their football club but no town deserves that.
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