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BBC/Guardian announce job cuts

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Re: BBC/Guardian announce job cuts

Post by Jel » Wed Jul 15, 2020 3:23 pm

Can I nominate Eastenders?
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Post by Bosscat » Wed Jul 15, 2020 3:26 pm

I nominate Big Ears off MotD
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Post by Volvoclaret » Wed Jul 15, 2020 3:30 pm

Close the whole BBC roadshow down or make it commercial says me aged 74 3/4. 😉
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Re: BBC/Guardian announce job cuts

Post by Gordaleman » Wed Jul 15, 2020 3:33 pm

At least the BBC has got shut of the Andrew Neill Show. Can't stand that guy as he continually interupts people when they are trying to answer his questions.

Talk about 'All about me'. He's an interviewer / political commentator, not a film star for pity's sake.
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Post by FactualFrank » Wed Jul 15, 2020 3:38 pm

My vote goes for ridding things such as Cash in the attic, bargain hunt, homes under the hammer, masterchef. Can all go, for me.
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Post by Turfy Topper » Wed Jul 15, 2020 3:47 pm

The BBC is the best value for money organisation in the entertainments and streaming services by far.

Radio, podcasts, streams, catch up, world service, world class documentaries, not to mention the TV programmes and the news. I don't begrudge paying the licence fee at all.
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Re: BBC/Guardian announce job cuts

Post by tiger76 » Wed Jul 15, 2020 3:47 pm

Gordaleman wrote:
Wed Jul 15, 2020 3:33 pm
At least the BBC has got shut of the Andrew Neill Show. Can't stand that guy as he continually interupts people when they are trying to answer his questions.

Talk about 'All about me'. He's an interviewer / political commentator, not a film star for pity's sake.
Don't worry he's going to be on plenty of other BBC shows.

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Re: BBC/Guardian announce job cuts

Post by tiger76 » Wed Jul 15, 2020 3:52 pm

FactualFrank wrote:
Wed Jul 15, 2020 3:38 pm
My vote goes for ridding things such as Cash in the attic, bargain hunt, homes under the hammer, masterchef. Can all go, for me.
Fortunately i don't have the pleasure of watching them, but looking at both the BBC/ITV schedules there does appear to be a lot of similar types of daytime shows airing.

I don't often have the TV on during the day, i prefer the radio, there's plenty of great comedies and dramas on R4 Extra which provide far better entertainment than the box can.

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Re: BBC/Guardian announce job cuts

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Wed Jul 15, 2020 3:54 pm

Turfy Topper wrote:
Wed Jul 15, 2020 3:47 pm
The BBC is the best value for money organisation in the entertainments and streaming services by far.

Radio, podcasts, streams, catch up, world service, world class documentaries, not to mention the TV programmes and the news. I don't begrudge paying the licence fee at all.
For some it represents excellent value, for some it doesn't. Surely they should have confidence in their own product and make it optional. Block the signal for those who don't want it. I haven't paid the TV licence for about 15 year now and don't see why it shouldn't be optional for everyone.

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Post by mikeS » Wed Jul 15, 2020 3:54 pm

The One Show. One I hope is on the bin list.
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Post by Quickenthetempo » Wed Jul 15, 2020 3:56 pm

Turfy Topper wrote:
Wed Jul 15, 2020 3:47 pm
The BBC is the best value for money organisation in the entertainments and streaming services by far.

Radio, podcasts, streams, catch up, world service, world class documentaries, not to mention the TV programmes and the news. I don't begrudge paying the licence fee at all.
A lot of people don't want to pay it, don't watch it or think it's value for money.

Maybe you should pay double and them not at all?

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Re: BBC/Guardian announce job cuts

Post by ten bellies » Wed Jul 15, 2020 3:57 pm

Oh dear how sad.

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Re: BBC/Guardian announce job cuts

Post by FactualFrank » Wed Jul 15, 2020 4:00 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Wed Jul 15, 2020 3:52 pm
Fortunately i don't have the pleasure of watching them, but looking at both the BBC/ITV schedules there does appear to be a lot of similar types of daytime shows airing.

I don't often have the TV on during the day, i prefer the radio, there's plenty of great comedies and dramas on R4 Extra which provide far better entertainment than the box can.
The radio is something I hardly ever listen to, but while working from home, I'd probably quite enjoy interesting educational programmes. Something you can learn even though it's on in the background.

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Post by Dy1geo » Wed Jul 15, 2020 4:07 pm

Can the likes of Owen Jones, Ash Sarker at the Guardian not take large pay cuts or perhaps volunteer be paid the same as the cleaners or canteen staff to protect other jobs.

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Re: BBC/Guardian announce job cuts

Post by Clarets4me » Wed Jul 15, 2020 4:23 pm

Gordaleman wrote:
Wed Jul 15, 2020 3:33 pm
At least the BBC has got shut of the Andrew Neill Show. Can't stand that guy as he continually interupts people when they are trying to answer his questions. Talk about 'All about me'. He's an interviewer / political commentator, not a film star for pity's sake.
Emma Barnett's far worse for interrupting .... a couple of Monday's ago, the Consumer expert Martin Lewis threatened on air to stop doing his slot, if she didn't stop interrupting ...

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Re: BBC/Guardian announce job cuts

Post by Turfy Topper » Wed Jul 15, 2020 4:25 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Wed Jul 15, 2020 3:56 pm
A lot of people don't want to pay it, don't watch it or think it's value for money.

Maybe you should pay double and them not at all?
Why? I made a factual statement and you are being very silly.

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Post by RingoMcCartney » Wed Jul 15, 2020 4:34 pm

Gordaleman wrote:
Wed Jul 15, 2020 3:33 pm
At least the BBC has got shut of the Andrew Neill Show. Can't stand that guy as he continually interupts people when they are trying to answer his questions.

Talk about 'All about me'. He's an interviewer / political commentator, not a film star for pity's sake.
Just be honest and admit you dont like the way he treats his interviewees with equal scrutiny. No "get out of jail free cards" for the Left from Andrew Neill. That's why the increasingly Left, and out of touch with its dwindling audience, BBC, is dropping him.
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Re: BBC/Guardian announce job cuts

Post by Quickenthetempo » Wed Jul 15, 2020 4:37 pm

Turfy Topper wrote:
Wed Jul 15, 2020 4:25 pm
Why? I made a factual statement and you are being very silly.
Or maybe simply half the people don't want to pay for it.

This would cause a shortfall in funding, so people who like the service should cough up the difference?

What's silly about that?

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Post by Vino blanco » Wed Jul 15, 2020 4:38 pm

I would get rid of the licence fee, commercialise the whole set-up and put Andrew Neil in charge as CEO.
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Post by BenWickes » Wed Jul 15, 2020 4:40 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Wed Jul 15, 2020 3:56 pm
A lot of people don't want to pay it, don't watch it or think it's value for money.

Maybe you should pay double and them not at all?
Be interesting how many people who don't pay the fee, don't watch BBC or don't think it's value for money post marks on the match ratings later ;)

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Post by RingoMcCartney » Wed Jul 15, 2020 4:42 pm

https://twitter.com/i/status/1199073155517747200

Absolutely brilliant Andrew Neill with Nicola sturgeon!

Quality.

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Post by Quickenthetempo » Wed Jul 15, 2020 4:44 pm

BenWickes wrote:
Wed Jul 15, 2020 4:40 pm
Be interesting how many people who don't pay the fee, don't watch BBC or don't think it's value for money post marks on the match ratings later ;)
:shock: :shock: :o :geek: :?:

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Post by Volvoclaret » Wed Jul 15, 2020 4:52 pm

Dy1geo wrote:
Wed Jul 15, 2020 4:07 pm
Can the likes of Owen Jones, Ash Sarker at the Guardian not take large pay cuts or perhaps volunteer be paid the same as the cleaners or canteen staff to protect other jobs.
Don't be silly, that would be putting Socialist interests into actual practice. How could they pay the school fees and continue to shop at Fortnums.

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Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Wed Jul 15, 2020 4:55 pm

BenWickes wrote:
Wed Jul 15, 2020 4:40 pm
Be interesting how many people who don't pay the fee, don't watch BBC or don't think it's value for money post marks on the match ratings later ;)

Luckily it is being shown by supersport

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Post by Burnley Ace » Wed Jul 15, 2020 4:59 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Wed Jul 15, 2020 3:56 pm
A lot of people don't want to pay it, don't watch it or think it's value for money.

Maybe you should pay double and them not at all?
A lot of people just want it for free. I don’t think I have met anyone who does not watch anything on the BBC TV, radio or internet site.
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Post by jrgbfc » Wed Jul 15, 2020 5:02 pm

RingoMcCartney wrote:
Wed Jul 15, 2020 4:34 pm
Just be honest and admit you dont like the way he treats his interviewees with equal scrutiny. No "get out of jail free cards" for the Left from Andrew Neill. That's why the increasingly Left, and out of touch with its dwindling audience, BBC, is dropping him.
Wasn't Boris Johnson too spineless to even be interviewed by Andrew Neill in the run up to the last election?
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Post by Vino blanco » Wed Jul 15, 2020 5:06 pm

Clever boy is our Boris.

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Post by PJDM » Wed Jul 15, 2020 5:16 pm

Incredible levels of victimhood from the right wingers on here, but don't worry the BBC is still run by a literal Tory candidate and the little watched 11:30pm political show is being axed to be replaced by something in a more prominent time slot still hosted by the same man best known for editing a host of right wing newspapers and magazines.

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Post by RingoMcCartney » Wed Jul 15, 2020 5:16 pm

jrgbfc wrote:
Wed Jul 15, 2020 5:02 pm
Wasn't Boris Johnson too spineless to even be interviewed by Andrew Neill in the run up to the last election?
One mans "spineless" is just another man's "how to achieve an 80 seat majority" I guess.

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Post by RingoMcCartney » Wed Jul 15, 2020 5:17 pm

Question - What do you call redundancies at the BBC.

Answer - Just the start.

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Post by Devils_Advocate » Wed Jul 15, 2020 5:37 pm

#DefundTheBBC is just another silly movement for the sad and pathetic UKIP/Brexit/Anti-Mask wearing flag w*nkers who need something in their lives to get angry about

Still if it gives your existence some meaning now Brexit is a sh*t show and the Govt are looking a complete shambles then fair play.

It gives us lefties plenty of amusement so everyones a winner :D :D :D :D
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Post by gandhisflipflop » Wed Jul 15, 2020 5:46 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Wed Jul 15, 2020 5:37 pm
#DefundTheBBC is just another silly movement for the sad and pathetic UKIP/Brexit/Anti-Mask wearing flag w*nkers who need something in their lives to get angry about

Still if it gives your existence some meaning now Brexit is a sh*t show and the Govt are looking a complete shambles then fair play.

It gives us lefties plenty of amusement so everyones a winner :D :D :D :D
It may give you plenty of amusement, but this news doesn't surprise me at all especially the guardian who have been pleading for money at the bottom of their articles for some time now. People see through them.

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Post by Stalbansclaret » Wed Jul 15, 2020 5:48 pm

If you can't get 43p a day of value out of BBC Radio, TV and online content you really aren't trying very hard. Commercial radio is pretty much universally terrible.
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Post by Caernarfon_Claret » Wed Jul 15, 2020 5:51 pm

I used to interview people about the BBC.

Very mixed answers when asked if the license fee is value for money.

Of course here in Wales S4C is a beneficiary of the license fee, and here where 80% of the population is first language Welsh - a Welsh language service, whether it's S4C, Radio Cymru or whatever is a massive part of the culture.

Still you get a lot of people who have far greater affinity with ITV and some prefer BBC.

In terms of whether people think the BBC is impartial - again it's a mixed bag.

Some think it's right leaning some left leaning and some bang in the middle.

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Post by SammyBoy » Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:17 pm

I find a lot of people dislike the BBC because it doesn’t pander to every single one of their personal prejudices, defunding it won’t make you happy.

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Post by clarethomer » Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:22 pm

Should be made to offer their content on a non-compulsory subscription model.

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Post by Caernarfon_Claret » Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:32 pm

clarethomer wrote:
Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:22 pm
Should be made to offer their content on a non-compulsory subscription model.
That's probably the best alternative.

Advertising revenue not robust enough to support a BBC showing adverts as well as the existing Commercial broadcasters.

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Post by clarethomer » Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:58 pm

Caernarfon_Claret wrote:
Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:32 pm
That's probably the best alternative.

Advertising revenue not robust enough to support a BBC showing adverts as well as the existing Commercial broadcasters.

Well they are doing this with the Brit Box and BBC Studios making £243m in profit which is a separate entity to the BBC so is commercially active. They are buying stakes in independent media companies and other commercial entities.

They produce £1.2bn from commercial and non-licence fee income. If they can't provide a subscription model or a commercial free to air model with advertising, I would be very surprised.

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Post by Volvoclaret » Wed Jul 15, 2020 8:06 pm

After tonight's debacle of the broadcasting of our match should immediately close sports dept.
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Post by RingoMcCartney » Wed Jul 15, 2020 10:56 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Wed Jul 15, 2020 5:37 pm
#DefundTheBBC is just another silly movement for the sad and pathetic UKIP/Brexit/Anti-Mask wearing flag w*nkers who need something in their lives to get angry about

Still if it gives your existence some meaning now Brexit is a sh*t show and the Govt are looking a complete shambles then fair play.

It gives us lefties plenty of amusement so everyones a winner :D :D :D :D
The Left? Winners!?

By the time the next general election comes around it'll be nearly 20 years since "us Lefties" won a general election.

Think about this.

The last time "us lefties" were "winners", Dwight McNeill was 5 years old!!

Now that's what you call "amusement!"

🤣😂🤣😂

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Post by Devils_Advocate » Wed Jul 15, 2020 10:59 pm

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Post by RingoMcCartney » Wed Jul 15, 2020 11:09 pm

Even Paul Daniels couldn't conjure up a win for "us Lefties!"

A 5 year old Dwight McNeil though! 🤣😂

20 years 20 years , unelected!

Dry your eyes smiler!

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Post by Damo » Wed Jul 15, 2020 11:15 pm

The Guardian is the mouthpiece of the noisy minority.
If you look on places like twitter or this message board you would assume its the bible for the average person, but in reality its read online for free by state dependent people with lots of free time on their hands that they spend on the Internet, arguing about things like men being allowed into womens toilets.
Thats why its on its @rse and always begging for donations.
Most of its customers actually spend their money on rags like the sun or daily mail, hoping they find something that offends them.
Unreal how many of the bedwetters know word for word what those comics print

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Post by RingoMcCartney » Wed Jul 15, 2020 11:25 pm

The Guardian- read by those, far too intelligent to be influenced by the newspaper they read.
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Re: BBC/Guardian announce job cuts

Post by Rowls » Wed Jul 15, 2020 11:45 pm

Yes, 'The Guardian' is the paper for people who aren't influenced by opinions but rather, form their own opinions based on fact.

That they are superior is proven -beyond all reasonable doubt- when 'The Guardian' affirms what they had already knew.

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Post by AndrewJB » Thu Jul 16, 2020 8:42 am

Rowls wrote:
Wed Jul 15, 2020 11:45 pm
Yes, 'The Guardian' is the paper for people who aren't influenced by opinions but rather, form their own opinions based on fact.

That they are superior is proven -beyond all reasonable doubt- when 'The Guardian' affirms what they had already knew.
The Guardian is far less likely to contain false, misleading, or biased news reporting than the Telegraph or other rightwing papers. If the telegraph were a restaurant, it would have been shut down by now over poor hygiene standards. There are plenty of other honest and decent news sources, so if the Guardian turns shoddy I’ll go elsewhere. Their high standards are why they get a lot of online readers, and there’s no extremely rich owner pulling the editorial strings.

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Re: BBC/Guardian announce job cuts

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Thu Jul 16, 2020 8:47 am

Less likely to contain biased, misleading etc reporting..

Have you seen some of its columnists?
You couldn't get a much more left wing lot.

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Post by AndrewJB » Thu Jul 16, 2020 9:39 am

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 8:47 am
Less likely to contain biased, misleading etc reporting..

Have you seen some of its columnists?
You couldn't get a much more left wing lot.
The opinion pieces are left wing, but the reporting itself isn’t. This is in contrast with a lot of the right wing press which reports news itself through the prism of right wing bias. Hence the Telegraph was responsible for ten times the number of untruths printed about the EU than the Guardian.

http://www.humantruth.info/uk_newspaper ... tml#Points

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