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Re: BBC commentary

Post by bfcmik » Wed Jul 15, 2020 8:23 pm

I think Lineker's dislike of all things Burnley is becoming more and more apparent each time I see him. Definitely struggling to say anything decent about us at all nowadays. But, We are Burnley and we don't care LOL

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Re: BBC commentary

Post by lakedistrictclaret » Wed Jul 15, 2020 8:23 pm

The commentators were a damn sight better than the pair covering the Arsenal - Liverpool match on Sky.

Martin Tyler used to be good. I can hardly bear to listen to him now, with his rambling, his bursts of laughter mid-sentence, and his excruciating AND IT'S LIVE.

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Re: BBC commentary

Post by Longsidelenny1882 » Wed Jul 15, 2020 8:23 pm

I think the camera man had been up crown point before the game utc

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Re: BBC commentary

Post by Local cricketer » Wed Jul 15, 2020 8:48 pm

tim_noone wrote:
Wed Jul 15, 2020 8:13 pm
Names please... 8-)
Not sure on names but you will find a couple near the golden orange

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Re: BBC commentary

Post by huw.Y.WattfromWare » Wed Jul 15, 2020 8:49 pm

Local cricketer wrote:
Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:55 pm
Sounds like Dion is off up crown point after the game
Not dogging wi’ Stan Collymore, I hope.

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Re: BBC commentary

Post by dougcollins » Wed Jul 15, 2020 10:29 pm

The whole thing was a shambles, I don't think Lineker even knew who he had in the studio with him. They won't be getting the PL back any time soon.

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Re: BBC commentary

Post by Damo » Wed Jul 15, 2020 10:59 pm

Lineker is quite complimentary towards us on twitter occasionally.
That coverage tonight was terrible though. Was looking at comments online from fans of other teams who said the same thing

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Re: BBC commentary

Post by jrgbfc » Wed Jul 15, 2020 11:02 pm

Dion Dublin on commentary and the camera work were both awful tonight.
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Re: tonights commentators

Post by charlyt » Wed Jul 15, 2020 11:04 pm

Total dross.
Stay yer gob Dion if thas have nowt
constructive to spout on about.

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Re: BBC commentary

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Wed Jul 15, 2020 11:05 pm

Seemed to spend most of the game watching replays or close ups of the players and managers while the game went on.

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Re: BBC commentary

Post by superdimitri » Wed Jul 15, 2020 11:11 pm

Guys, at risk of embarrassing yourself...

The BBC do not control the live broadcasts..they only transmit premier league productions.

So any beef you have with the camera should be directed at the camera producer. Nothing whatsoever to do with BBC.

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Re: BBC commentary

Post by Swizzlestick » Wed Jul 15, 2020 11:13 pm

Dion Dublin comes across as a nice enough bloke, but god his commentary is awful. No analysis and littered with errors. Always disliked Guy Mowbray - has a really irritiating cadence to his voice and just banged on about the weather tonight.

Somebody the other day dismissed my praise of Jon Champion and Ally McCoist, but they're a damn sight more entertaining and insightful than these two.

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Re: BBC commentary

Post by Damo » Wed Jul 15, 2020 11:20 pm

superdimitri wrote:
Wed Jul 15, 2020 11:11 pm
Guys, at risk of embarrassing yourself...

The BBC do not control the live broadcasts..they only transmit premier league productions.

So any beef you have with the camera should be directed at the camera producer. Nothing whatsoever to do with BBC.
the camera producer that kept putting the MOTD style match ball animation wants sacking.
Spent half the game watching that.
Looked just like what the BBC use too the charlatans

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Re: BBC commentary

Post by Hibsclaret » Wed Jul 15, 2020 11:35 pm

The camera work is even worse than the commentary and that’s saying something. How many times did we miss an attacking phase of play whilst watching a replay listening to the said attack....better listening to the radio at times cos you’re not seeing the match.
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Re: BBC commentary

Post by Joe14 » Wed Jul 15, 2020 11:35 pm

superdimitri wrote:
Wed Jul 15, 2020 11:11 pm
Guys, at risk of embarrassing yourself...

The BBC do not control the live broadcasts..they only transmit premier league productions.

So any beef you have with the camera should be directed at the camera producer. Nothing whatsoever to do with BBC.
Who should we blame then ITV??? Nothing to do with the BBC :lol:

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Re: BBC commentary

Post by lucs86 » Wed Jul 15, 2020 11:35 pm

I thought Mowbray and Dublin especially were great tonight, most enjoyable commentary I've heard in ages! Pretty funny and fair, especially on the rougher, physical stuff. Details got a bit ropey towards the end but you can forgive that. Dublin had some good insights, particularly on injuries. Liked it.
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Re: BBC commentary

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Wed Jul 15, 2020 11:44 pm

Dion must have been getting paid per word. They’d obviously decided to hammer home the point it was ‘cold’ pre match they mentioned it that much.

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Re: BBC commentary

Post by Wile E Coyote » Wed Jul 15, 2020 11:56 pm

there are two clubs in england, and two only. Arsenal and Spurs.
keown, lineaker, wright, Jenas, are the main pundits. the media are awash with trendy gunners. every podcast, every talk sport programme is tainted by these two. Do not expect anything other than patronising slop from the media for Burnley.
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Re: BBC commentary

Post by charlyt » Thu Jul 16, 2020 12:05 am

superdimitri wrote:
Wed Jul 15, 2020 11:11 pm
Guys, at risk of embarrassing yourself...

The BBC do not control the live broadcasts..they only transmit premier league productions.

So any beef you have with the camera should be directed at the camera producer. Nothing whatsoever to do with BBC.
So does this relieve big Dion from his motor gob?

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Re: BBC commentary

Post by superdimitri » Thu Jul 16, 2020 12:21 am

I have no idea about Guy Mowbray on Dion Dublin. Was watching with Steve Wilson and Phil Neville. Both pretty complimentary of Burnley.

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Re: BBC commentary

Post by IanMcL » Thu Jul 16, 2020 12:44 am

The BBC was very bad.

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Re: BBC commentary

Post by dsr » Thu Jul 16, 2020 12:47 am

There was nothing at all wrong with the camera work. All the camera men - there is more than one - did their job. When the camera man was focussing on Tarkowski wandering round at the back, it's because he was told to.

I have no idea why the director was showing that picture when the action was at the other end of the field. My best guess is that the proper director was struck down with illness at the last minute and the emergency replacement had never done the job before and didn't know which buttons to press or which screen to watch.

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Re: BBC commentary

Post by BenWickes » Thu Jul 16, 2020 6:26 am

dsr wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 12:47 am

I have no idea why the director was showing that picture when the action was at the other end of the field. My best guess is that the proper director was struck down with illness at the last minute and the emergency replacement had never done the job before and didn't know which buttons to press or which screen to watch.
He was in Barnsley wondering where everyone was...
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Re: BBC commentary

Post by Woodleyclaret » Thu Jul 16, 2020 6:42 am

Dion needs to stick to house renovation programmes

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Re: BBC commentary

Post by Top Claret » Thu Jul 16, 2020 8:24 am

dsr wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 12:47 am


I have no idea why the director was showing that picture when the action was at the other end of the field. My best guess is that the proper director was struck down with illness at the last minute and the emergency replacement had never done the job before and didn't know which buttons to press or which screen to watch.
It was extremely annoying has we had little goal mouth action in the Wolves half

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Re: BBC commentary

Post by Hendrickxz » Thu Jul 16, 2020 8:54 am

Lineaker: "Maybe Burnley should change their name to Resolute Burnely FC" (or summat) Maybe he should change his to "Tosser Gary Lineaker" :D

But what a delight to hear how dropped on they all were when we equalised via n the spot. They had just spend quarter of an hour praising Wolves and pouring crap on us. Brilliant :)

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Re: BBC commentary

Post by ChrisG » Thu Jul 16, 2020 10:37 am

superdimitri wrote:
Wed Jul 15, 2020 11:11 pm
Guys, at risk of embarrassing yourself...

The BBC do not control the live broadcasts..they only transmit premier league productions.

So any beef you have with the camera should be directed at the camera producer. Nothing whatsoever to do with BBC.
I thought that was the case, but apparently not. The camera crew are freelance, but the choice over the camera angles is down to the director of the 'host broadcaster', in this case the BBC.

Had this confirmed by my next-door neighbour last night. He is a senior producer for BBC Sport.

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Re: BBC commentary

Post by Volvoclaret » Thu Jul 16, 2020 1:38 pm

Snr Producer for BBC Sport, go round and punch him.😝

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Re: BBC commentary

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Jul 16, 2020 1:47 pm

superdimitri wrote:
Wed Jul 15, 2020 11:11 pm
Guys, at risk of embarrassing yourself...

The BBC do not control the live broadcasts..they only transmit premier league productions.

So any beef you have with the camera should be directed at the camera producer. Nothing whatsoever to do with BBC.
The BBC won't be in charge of the cameras, that's PL Productions as you say, but surely the editor will be BBC. But whoever was in charge, it was appalling.

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Re: BBC commentary

Post by evensteadiereddie » Thu Jul 16, 2020 1:52 pm

Hendrickxz wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 8:54 am
Lineaker: "Maybe Burnley should change their name to Resolute Burnely FC" (or summat) Maybe he should change his to "Tosser Gary Lineaker" :D

But what a delight to hear how dropped on they all were when we equalised via n the spot. They had just spend quarter of an hour praising Wolves and pouring crap on us. Brilliant :)

Spelling the idiot's name right might help, H.

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Re: BBC commentary

Post by ChrisG » Thu Jul 16, 2020 2:00 pm

Volvoclaret wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 1:38 pm
Snr Producer for BBC Sport, go round and punch him.😝
He's a good lad to be fair.

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Re: BBC commentary

Post by Volvoclaret » Thu Jul 16, 2020 4:15 pm

Well ask him to punch whover was the Director then. 😁

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Re: BBC commentary

Post by ecc » Thu Jul 16, 2020 4:22 pm

Couldn't give a damn. The media - bar one or two journos - have never liked us and never will. Their loss not ours.

UTC

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Re: BBC commentary

Post by superdimitri » Thu Jul 16, 2020 4:53 pm

ChrisG wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 10:37 am
I thought that was the case, but apparently not. The camera crew are freelance, but the choice over the camera angles is down to the director of the 'host broadcaster', in this case the BBC.

Had this confirmed by my next-door neighbour last night. He is a senior producer for BBC Sport.
If this is true who chooses between cameras when the game isn't broadcasted in the UK? I've always been of the opinion it's the production company that deal with the streaming and choose the cameras to show and they traditionally do so in the big broadcast vans at the stadium.

With Covid they are now doing it remotely, but I don't think the BBC receive all the feeds and choose themselves, I think this is done by premier league productions as the feed is then easily shared to the world wide audience.

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Re: BBC commentary

Post by ChrisG » Thu Jul 16, 2020 5:22 pm

superdimitri wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 4:53 pm
If this is true who chooses between cameras when the game isn't broadcasted in the UK? I've always been of the opinion it's the production company that deal with the streaming and choose the cameras to show and they traditionally do so in the big broadcast vans at the stadium.

With Covid they are now doing it remotely, but I don't think the BBC receive all the feeds and choose themselves, I think this is done by premier league productions as the feed is then easily shared to the world wide audience.
Can only go off what he told me, and given his job, I assume he knows more than me and thee.

As far as I'm aware, the broadcasters get the 'full package' of feeds from PL, and then direct them as necessary. Apparently all the camera lads etc are freelance in the main. (Weirdly I know another lad who does the editing on MOTD for the games, and he is freelance too)
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