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Re: Hendrick set to leave

Post by Quickenthetempo » Wed Aug 12, 2020 8:09 pm

Burnleyareback2 wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 7:53 pm
He did what he was asked to do by the manager to the best of his abilities.

Do we need more than that?

Thanks Jeff and good luck. Always be a claret.
So do the cleaners, but I wouldn't pay good money to watch them.

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Re: Hendrick set to leave

Post by Tribesmen » Wed Aug 12, 2020 8:26 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:23 pm
He’s been a Premier League player for four years and would not have played all those games had he been Championship level. It really is as simple as that.
Ok for all those who like him these are some of the quotes from an Irish Forum in the last week and what they think of Jeff.

"Jeff has turned down AC Milan to join Cambridge Utd"


"Apparently he's currently writing his autobiography: 'Memoirs of an Invisible Man'."

"i feel for Newcastle fans. how this man makes a living from football in beyond me "
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Re: Hendrick set to leave

Post by exilecanada » Wed Aug 12, 2020 8:28 pm

Burnleyareback2 wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 7:53 pm
He did what he was asked to do by the manager to the best of his abilities.

Do we need more than that?

Thanks Jeff and good luck. Always be a claret.

+1. Hendricks is a perfect example of what Dyche's Burnley is all about. There's no 'I' in 'TEAM'.
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Re: Hendrick set to leave

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Wed Aug 12, 2020 8:29 pm

Tribesmen wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 8:26 pm
Ok for all those who like him these are some of the quotes from an Irish Forum in the last week and what they think of Jeff.

"Jeff has turned down AC Milan to join Cambridge Utd"


"Apparently he's currently writing his autobiography: 'Memoirs of an Invisible Man'."

"i feel for Newcastle fans. how this man makes a living from football in beyond me "
I think the fact the club wanted him to stay is a better yardstick to measure him by than fans opinions.
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Re: Hendrick set to leave

Post by exilecanada » Wed Aug 12, 2020 8:33 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 8:09 pm
So do the cleaners, but I wouldn't pay good money to watch them.
That's a good point, however it poses a question: Do you watch the Clarets hoping to see Man City type skills or watch Burnley play to get a favourable result? For me, I watch every game on telly and don't give a rats ar*e if we play like crap as long as the result is in our favour.
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Re: Hendrick set to leave

Post by Vegas Claret » Wed Aug 12, 2020 9:04 pm

scored some important goals for us, if Brownhill can chip in the same then I feel he will be an upgrade

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Re: Hendrick set to leave

Post by Burnleyareback2 » Wed Aug 12, 2020 9:05 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 8:09 pm
So do the cleaners, but I wouldn't pay good money to watch them.
I suspect there is someone else managing, recruiting and training the cleaners than Sean Dyche.

What a strange comment, has somebody asked you to pay to watch the cleaners?

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Re: Hendrick set to leave

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Wed Aug 12, 2020 9:08 pm

Burnleyareback2 wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 9:05 pm
I suspect there is someone else managing, recruiting and training the cleaners than Sean Dyche.

What a strange comment, has somebody asked you to pay to watch the cleaners?
This would depend on what the cleaners look like :lol:
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Re: Hendrick set to leave

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Aug 12, 2020 9:13 pm

Tribesmen wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 8:26 pm
Ok for all those who like him these are some of the quotes from an Irish Forum in the last week and what they think of Jeff.

"Jeff has turned down AC Milan to join Cambridge Utd"


"Apparently he's currently writing his autobiography: 'Memoirs of an Invisible Man'."

"i feel for Newcastle fans. how this man makes a living from football in beyond me "
I really don’t give a damn what they think of him. He’s been an integral part of our side for four very successful seasons, simple as that.
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Re: Hendrick set to leave

Post by JohnMac » Wed Aug 12, 2020 9:18 pm

I agree with Tony that he was an effective part of our framework but can understand the comments that have been repeated by Derby, Burnley and ROI fans over a number of years.

He is a much better player than he often shows and I think he sacrifices individual glory for the sake of the team.

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Re: Hendrick set to leave

Post by matttheclaret » Wed Aug 12, 2020 9:20 pm

Tribesmen wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 8:26 pm
Ok for all those who like him these are some of the quotes from an Irish Forum in the last week and what they think of Jeff.

"Jeff has turned down AC Milan to join Cambridge Utd"


"Apparently he's currently writing his autobiography: 'Memoirs of an Invisible Man'."

"i feel for Newcastle fans. how this man makes a living from football in beyond me "
Luckily, I've seen him play plenty for us over the last four years so I don't need to care what people on some Irish forum say.

Hendrick was a good player for us. I'd have liked him to stay, so would SD. I wish him well at wherever he ends up.

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Re: Hendrick set to leave

Post by Quickenthetempo » Wed Aug 12, 2020 9:46 pm

exilecanada wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 8:33 pm
That's a good point, however it poses a question: Do you watch the Clarets hoping to see Man City type skills or watch Burnley play to get a favourable result? For me, I watch every game on telly and don't give a rats ar*e if we play like crap as long as the result is in our favour.
I like entertainment as well as a good result. I know it's asking a lot but quite a few sides manage it.
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Re: Hendrick set to leave

Post by daveisaclaret » Wed Aug 12, 2020 9:53 pm

Tribesmen wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 8:26 pm
Ok for all those who like him these are some of the quotes from an Irish Forum in the last week and what they think of Jeff.

"Jeff has turned down AC Milan to join Cambridge Utd"


"Apparently he's currently writing his autobiography: 'Memoirs of an Invisible Man'."

"i feel for Newcastle fans. how this man makes a living from football in beyond me "
139 games for Burnley, 54 for Ireland. Even if those weren't the opinions of three anonymous people I'm not sure why they'd be in a better position to judge him than us. It does of course make a difference that he's played with better players and management for Burnley than for Ireland, so we're bound to see better of him as a whole.

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Re: Hendrick set to leave

Post by Bfcboyo » Wed Aug 12, 2020 11:08 pm

Who will fill the empty marmite jar now? We always need a marmite player. Wood might be able to step in but he's bagged too many goals , what was his final tally 14 from 14 times he stayed onside phenomenal stats.
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Re: Hendrick set to leave

Post by dsr » Wed Aug 12, 2020 11:10 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 9:46 pm
I like entertainment as well as a good result. I know it's asking a lot but quite a few sides manage it.
As do we, IMO. Obviously when we play badly it's not entertaining, but if you read the Bournemoth message board when they are losing, they aren't entertained either.

Leicester have a thread about Dwight McNeil and someone says that he wouldn't do for Leicester because McNeil's speciality is firing it in for the big men who are desperate to get into the box. As if being desperate to get into the box is a bad thing. But if you think back to every single highlight in your time watching Burnley (apart from possibly Ball's tackle on Dunn), don't they all happen in or around the penalty area?

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Re: Hendrick set to leave

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Wed Aug 12, 2020 11:16 pm

Bfcboyo wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 11:08 pm
Who will fill the empty marmite jar now? We always need a marmite player. Wood might be able to step in but he's bagged too many goals , what was his final tally 14 from 14 times he stayed onside phenomenal stats.
Lowton, it's already started during the last season.

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Re: Hendrick set to leave

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Wed Aug 12, 2020 11:16 pm

matttheclaret wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 9:20 pm
Luckily, I've seen him play plenty for us over the last four years so I don't need to care what people on some Irish forum say.

Hendrick was a good player for us. I'd have liked him to stay, so would SD. I wish him well at wherever he ends up.
I wouldn’t say he was a good player for us.

He was steady at best. Ran around a lot and got maybe 2-3 goals a season. basically a younger George Boyd

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Re: Hendrick set to leave

Post by fatboy47 » Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:12 am

Comical to see the publicity machine at Newcastle frantically trying to talk up the (possible) signing of Hendrick.
Clearly the financial circus there neccestitates getting in some "" free's"" atm, and whilst Jeff's agent has clearly been pushing some fantasy where he's being relentlessly pursued by elite clubs, the reality is a bit starker.
He'll go there as a squad player whilst we've brought in a significant upgrade on him.
If we'd really been that bothered about keeping him I'm damned sure we would have.
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Re: Hendrick set to leave

Post by BackoffDave » Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:21 am

exilecanada wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 8:28 pm
+1. Hendricks is a perfect example of what Dyche's Burnley is all about. There's no 'I' in 'TEAM'.

and there's no "s" in Hendrick :roll: :lol:
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Re: Hendrick set to leave

Post by Zesty » Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:34 am

At this point I’m sure people are putting an ‘s’ at the end of his name on purpose.

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Re: Hendrick set to leave

Post by burnmark » Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:37 am

Bfcboyo wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 11:08 pm
Who will fill the empty marmite jar now? We always need a marmite player. Wood might be able to step in but he's bagged too many goals , what was his final tally 14 from 14 times he stayed onside phenomenal stats.
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Re: Hendrick set to leave

Post by Top Claret » Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:49 am

fatboy47 wrote:
Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:12 am

He'll go there as a squad player whilst we've brought in a significant upgrade on him.
If we'd really been that bothered about keeping him I'm damned sure we would have.
When you say upgrade I presume you are referring to Brownhill

I don't know how anyone can make such a statement when Browhall has only played a handful of premier league games, the dury is still out on him.

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Re: Hendrick set to leave

Post by fatboy47 » Fri Aug 14, 2020 10:08 am

Top Claret wrote:
Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:49 am
When you say upgrade I presume you are referring to Brownhill

I don't know how anyone can make such a statement when Browhall has only played a handful of premier league games, the dury is still out on him.

Opinions.
I respect yours, but personally feel I've seen more to excite me from Brownhill in a handful of games than from Hendrick in 3 seasons.
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Re: Hendrick set to leave

Post by summitclaret » Fri Aug 14, 2020 10:11 am

Top Claret wrote:
Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:49 am
When you say upgrade I presume you are referring to Brownhill

I don't know how anyone can make such a statement when Browhall has only played a handful of premier league games, the dury is still out on him.
And the blockheads as well. 😃
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Re: Hendrick set to leave

Post by HahaYeah » Fri Aug 14, 2020 10:48 am

Brownhill is just new boots and panties so far...

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Re: Hendrick set to leave

Post by criminalclaret » Fri Aug 14, 2020 10:48 am

He certainly was a marmite player. I for one can admit that one a few occasions I have cursed very loudly at him for a sloppy touch to give away position or not finding a man quick enough. His work rate was generally phenomenal and he was the epitome of a team player, played in whatever role Dyche wanted him to play even if it wasn't his strongest suit. Didn't throw any tantrums or caused a fuss, just got on with it. He has a great attitude and I respect him greatly for that. Certainly part of the mantra of Dyche and the club.

This I believe has contributed to his high appearance rate for us as his versatility put him atop of Dyche's selection list when he had to make tactical changes. Had he been a one trick pony player for us playing only central mid role, how many appearance would he still have earned? When playing multiple positions you become versatile. As mentioned above, he wasn't the most skilful player to put on a claret and blue shirt but I'd rather have him inside the club than out.

Will he do well at another PL club remains to be seen. Depends on where he plays and who he competing against for that place.

Wish him all the luck anyway. If it gives us chance to breed through some more youngsters its a bonus.
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Re: Hendrick set to leave

Post by NewClaret » Sat Aug 15, 2020 12:02 am

The Mag: “from Mbappe dreams to Hendrick nightmares” :lol:

https://www.themag.co.uk/2020/08/jeff-h ... le-united/
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Re: Hendrick set to leave

Post by Quicknick » Sat Aug 15, 2020 6:25 am

HahaYeah wrote:
Fri Aug 14, 2020 10:48 am
Brownhill is just new boots and panties so far...
Brownhill is a really good player.
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Re: Hendrick set to leave

Post by bfcjg » Sat Aug 15, 2020 9:17 am

NewClaret wrote:
Sat Aug 15, 2020 12:02 am
The Mag: “from Mbappe dreams to Hendrick nightmares” :lol:

https://www.themag.co.uk/2020/08/jeff-h ... le-united/
There not happy are they ? 😁😁

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Re: Hendrick set to leave

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sat Aug 15, 2020 9:24 am

NewClaret wrote:
Sat Aug 15, 2020 12:02 am
The Mag: “from Mbappe dreams to Hendrick nightmares” :lol:

https://www.themag.co.uk/2020/08/jeff-h ... le-united/
They're an odd bunch are Newcastle fans.
I get that they've always had more lofty ambitions than being a mid-table side, but during Ashley's ownership they've only spent 2 seasons outside of the PL.

That's not bad when you see the claims that he's steering them towards an iceberg.
Part of me would be interested to see how they'd behave if they did a Bolton and fell into league 2..

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Re: Hendrick set to leave

Post by Quickenthetempo » Sat Aug 15, 2020 10:14 am

I can just imagine the abuse from the stands up there if he doesn't start well.

He might of got a few 'oh pass to a bloody claret shirt for once Jeff' or 'pass it forward negative Jeff' from our stands but overall we were very supportive of a mediocre player.

They won't hold back on the Toon.

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Re: Hendrick set to leave

Post by jrgbfc » Sat Aug 15, 2020 10:18 am

Brownhill has looked neat and tidy enough so far, but I've not seen anything to suggest he's much better than Hendrick IMO.

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Re: Hendrick set to leave

Post by NewClaret » Sat Aug 15, 2020 10:38 am

bfcjg wrote:
Sat Aug 15, 2020 9:17 am
There not happy are they ? 😁😁
Don’t think I would be if we were rumoured to get Mbappe and we got Jeff either... :lol:
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Re: Hendrick set to leave

Post by Iloveyoubrady » Sat Aug 15, 2020 10:40 am

jrgbfc wrote:
Sat Aug 15, 2020 10:18 am
Brownhill has looked neat and tidy enough so far, but I've not seen anything to suggest he's much better than Hendrick IMO.
Brownhill has put in better performances since he’s been here than Hendrick did over 3/4 years

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Re: Hendrick set to leave

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sat Aug 15, 2020 11:01 am

Brownhill is a better player. He has much better technical ability that has been clear to see in his few games.
Hendrick had no strengths apart from his fitness.
Brownhill looks to be a premier league quality centre midfielder. Unfortunately you can’t say that about Hendrick at all.

He is definite upgrade on Hendrick not sure how anyone can say different.

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Re: Hendrick set to leave

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sat Aug 15, 2020 11:11 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sat Aug 15, 2020 11:01 am
Brownhill is a better player. He has much better technical ability that has been clear to see in his few games.
Hendrick had no strengths apart from his fitness.
Brownhill looks to be a premier league quality centre midfielder. Unfortunately you can’t say that about Hendrick at all.

He is definite upgrade on Hendrick not sure how anyone can say different.
4 years in the PL as a first choice and he's now moving to another PL club, you're right, Hendrick can't be a PL quality midfielder...

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Re: Hendrick set to leave

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sat Aug 15, 2020 11:14 am

Hendrick has not been first choice at Burnley for some time. Nice of you to change my wording as well. I said premier league quality centre midfielder. Which Hendrick certainly is not.

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Re: Hendrick set to leave

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sat Aug 15, 2020 11:35 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sat Aug 15, 2020 11:14 am
Hendrick has not been first choice at Burnley for some time. Nice of you to change my wording as well. I said premier league quality centre midfielder. Which Hendrick certainly is not.
How do you know that?
He played in a more advanced central role for most of his time here and then moved around to fill in.

I suspect if he'd sat in CM he would've been fine.
For someone who's not been first choice for some time he's done well to knock out 24 league appearances this last season and 30 plus in each of the previous 3 seasons.

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Re: Hendrick set to leave

Post by Pearcey » Sat Aug 15, 2020 11:38 am

https://youtu.be/irRrXWx7evo

Doesn’t have good technical ability does he. Massively underrated for me but I respect others opinions even when they’re wrong. :-D

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Re: Hendrick set to leave

Post by ClaretTony » Sat Aug 15, 2020 11:42 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sat Aug 15, 2020 11:14 am
Hendrick has not been first choice at Burnley for some time
22 starts out of a possible 29 last season suggests that's not the case

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Re: Hendrick set to leave

Post by Quickenthetempo » Sat Aug 15, 2020 11:52 am

Does it count as being first choice if you play out of position to cover injuries?

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Re: Hendrick set to leave

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sat Aug 15, 2020 11:53 am

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Sat Aug 15, 2020 11:52 am
Does it count as being first choice if you play out of position to cover injuries?
Dunno, ask our other players who do the same.

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Re: Hendrick set to leave

Post by Quickenthetempo » Sat Aug 15, 2020 11:57 am

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Sat Aug 15, 2020 11:53 am
Dunno, ask our other players who do the same.
Like who?

People's defence on here of Jeff, often starts with 'considering he's always played out of position'.

You can't have it both ways can you?

Played out of position and first choice?

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Re: Hendrick set to leave

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sat Aug 15, 2020 12:11 pm

Ok Tony answer me this would Hendrick have played 24 times if gudmundsson or Brady were fit?

He played because we had no one else simple as that

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Re: Hendrick set to leave

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sat Aug 15, 2020 12:13 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Sat Aug 15, 2020 11:57 am
Like who?

People's defence on here of Jeff, often starts with 'considering he's always played out of position'.

You can't have it both ways can you?

Played out of position and first choice?
When did JBG return to fitness?
Pretty sure it was when Jeff was still here and doing a solid job on the right wing.
Lennon was also still here.

Pieters has been playing on the left wing, we've had numerous players over the years play out of their normal position, I recall Barnes and Jay both playing more out on the flanks.
Let's not forget Arfield either.
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Re: Hendrick set to leave

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sat Aug 15, 2020 12:14 pm

Hendrick was signed as a centre mid.

I believe he played less than 40 games at Cm in 4 seasons. Kind of highlights he is not first choice and not premier league quality centre mid

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Re: Hendrick set to leave

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sat Aug 15, 2020 12:14 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sat Aug 15, 2020 12:11 pm
Ok Tony answer me this would Hendrick have played 24 times if gudmundsson or Brady were fit?

He played because we had no one else simple as that
Was Lennon fit?

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Re: Hendrick set to leave

Post by Steve1956 » Sat Aug 15, 2020 12:17 pm

Some of our support really dislike Hendrick dont they?...the only person whose opinion really matterd in Jeff's time with us is Dyche's .....and he picked him regularly...that will do for me...thanks Jeff and good luck were ever you end up👍
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Re: Hendrick set to leave

Post by SonofPog » Sat Aug 15, 2020 12:18 pm

"Of the 140 Premier League games we played between him signing and leaving, he featured 122 times with only fifteen of those appearances from the bench."

Played a lot of games for us. Only not featuring in 18 PL games when not here. You can claim that's all down to injuries to other players. But the above is the facts. I would rather we had him here.
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Re: Hendrick set to leave

Post by Mala591 » Sat Aug 15, 2020 12:19 pm

It would be interesting to compare last seasons results when Hendrick started a game and the results when he didn't start.

Tony?

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