Charlie Taylor to miss Norwich game

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Fri Jul 17, 2020 12:35 pm

SD confirms Charlie Taylor will miss this weekend (Hamstring), Jay Rodriguez, however, should be passed fit for the Clarets’ trip to Carrow Road.

(Source: Burnley's Twitter)

So assume that means JBG is likely to start.

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Fri Jul 17, 2020 12:40 pm

Is he Teasdale's brother?

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Fri Jul 17, 2020 2:10 pm

I cant see Jay Rod starting, fir or not, it just isn't the Dyche way.

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Fri Jul 17, 2020 2:18 pm

I would start Woody and Vyds with Jay to come on from the bench if required ... but wtf do I know

taio · Post by **taio** » Fri Jul 17, 2020 2:22 pm

If Jay is fully fit he should definitely start.

Gordaleman · Post by **Gordaleman** » Fri Jul 17, 2020 2:23 pm

Bosscat wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 17, 2020 2:18 pm
I would start Woody and Vyds with Jay to come on from the bench if required ... but wtf do I know

I would start J Rod and Vyds. They would be brill against that Norwich defence.

With only one more game left, there's not much point in resting J Rod.

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Fri Jul 17, 2020 2:30 pm

Just hope we can get thru last 2 games without any serious injuries. We need to start next season with a clean bill of health if possible. At the moment only Barnes would be a doubt I think.

nil_desperandum · Post by **nil_desperandum** » Fri Jul 17, 2020 2:39 pm

FCBurnley wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 17, 2020 2:30 pm
Just hope we can get thru last 2 games without any serious injuries. We need to start next season with a clean bill of health if possible. At the moment only Barnes would be a doubt I think.

Apart from Lowton and Cork?

bfcmik · Post by **bfcmik** » Fri Jul 17, 2020 2:41 pm

With 2 games left and a minimal, if any, chance of European qualification (which would not be the hassle of previous seasons due to the revised single legged qualifying format for next season's competition) I think you will see a few different faces out there as SD tries to give any knocks the best recovery time before next season.

bfcmik · Post by **bfcmik** » Fri Jul 17, 2020 2:43 pm

nil_desperandum wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 17, 2020 2:39 pm
Apart from Lowton and Cork?

Cork should be OK - already had the op. Might miss out on whatever pre-season training we manage to fit in before the season starts again

Gordaleman · Post by **Gordaleman** » Fri Jul 17, 2020 2:44 pm

bfcmik wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 17, 2020 2:41 pm
With 2 games left and a minimal, if any, chance of European qualification (which would not be the hassle of previous seasons due to the revised single legged qualifying format for next season's competition) I think you will see a few different faces out there as SD tries to give any knocks the best recovery time before next season.

Barring miracles, we won't be in Europe next year, but I think the squad want to beat that 54 point target. Apart from Taylor, I think we'll have our strongest team out in both remaining games.

taio · Post by **taio** » Fri Jul 17, 2020 2:46 pm

bfcmik wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 17, 2020 2:41 pm
With 2 games left and a minimal, if any, chance of European qualification (which would not be the hassle of previous seasons due to the revised single legged qualifying format for next season's competition) I think you will see a few different faces out there as SD tries to give any knocks the best recovery time before next season.

I think Dyche will and should go with his strongest available 11 - we need to do our utmost to finish as high in the league table as possible.

fidelcastro · Post by **fidelcastro** » Fri Jul 17, 2020 2:46 pm

Gordaleman wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 17, 2020 2:44 pm
Barring miracles, we won't be in Europe next year, but I think the squad want to beat that 54 point target. Apart from Taylor, I think we'll have our strongest team out in both remaining games.

That'll include Wood then.

bfcmik · Post by **bfcmik** » Fri Jul 17, 2020 2:48 pm

Gordaleman wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 17, 2020 2:44 pm
Barring miracles, we won't be in Europe next year, but I think the squad want to beat that 54 point target. Apart from Taylor, I think we'll have our strongest team out in both remaining games.

I disagree. I think SD will already be looking at next season. And when our squad has had nowt to play for they tend to go on an early holiday. The lack of fans and targets will mean that both games will probably be more like training games than competitive PL matches

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Fri Jul 17, 2020 2:52 pm

It was fairly obvious from the post-match on Wednesday that Taylor would be out

ŽižkovClaret · Post by **ŽižkovClaret** » Fri Jul 17, 2020 2:55 pm

I'd like to see a 433 with Jay Wood and Vydra up front and Mcneil in the hole ahead of a defensive midfield 2.

If not now, when?

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Fri Jul 17, 2020 2:56 pm

Norwich are so poor at defending crosses, give the ball to McNeil !

Murger · Post by **Murger** » Fri Jul 17, 2020 2:58 pm

Nowt to play for. I hope some of the youngsters get a decent run out.

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Fri Jul 17, 2020 2:59 pm

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 17, 2020 2:56 pm
Norwich are so poor at defending crosses, give the ball to McNeil !

Ah then we will only lose 2-1, great idea!

Gordaleman · Post by **Gordaleman** » Fri Jul 17, 2020 3:02 pm

fidelcastro wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 17, 2020 2:46 pm
That'll include Wood then.

Nor necessarily. Vyds and J Rod would run that defence ragged.

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Fri Jul 17, 2020 3:04 pm

taio wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 17, 2020 2:46 pm
I think Dyche will and should go with his strongest available 11 - we need to do our utmost to finish as high in the league table as possible.

We could lose both games and very probably remain in 10th, win both games and have an outside chance of 9th.
Apart from beating 54pts there isn't a lot worth risking more injuries for. I'd like us to beat it, but I suspect SD will see the bigger picture of next season. No one could blame him if he did.

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Fri Jul 17, 2020 3:11 pm

Colburn_Claret wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 17, 2020 3:04 pm
We could lose both games and very probably remain in 10th, win both games and have an outside chance of 9th.
Apart from beating 54pts there isn't a lot worth risking more injuries for. I'd like us to beat it, but I suspect SD will see the bigger picture of next season. No one could blame him if he did.

It’d go against the last 7 and a half years if he did. He’ll put his strongest team out, the only question being which of the front two will start. If Jay Rod is fully fit it’ll be him and Wood again.

taio · Post by **taio** » Fri Jul 17, 2020 3:13 pm

Colburn_Claret wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 17, 2020 3:04 pm
We could lose both games and very probably remain in 10th, win both games and have an outside chance of 9th.
Apart from beating 54pts there isn't a lot worth risking more injuries for. I'd like us to beat it, but I suspect SD will see the bigger picture of next season. No one could blame him if he did.

Win both games we have an outside chance of 8th don't we? Lose both games and could end up in 12th. I would hope Dyche wants to finish as a high in the league as possible mainly for the club but also for his personal record. At £2m a place we are not in a position to not take the games seriously. The idea there is nothing to play for is rubbish in my view and I don't think Dyche will be chucking the youngsters in.

taio · Post by **taio** » Fri Jul 17, 2020 3:18 pm

And so I think the team will be:

Pope
Bardsley
Long
Tarkowski
Pieters
Gudmundsson
Westwood
Brownhill
McNeil
Rodriguez*
Wood

*Vydra if Jay is not fully fit.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Fri Jul 17, 2020 3:29 pm

MACCA wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 17, 2020 2:59 pm
Ah then we will only lose 2-1, great idea!

Que ?

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Fri Jul 17, 2020 3:39 pm

There's league places to play for, and the money they earn. We need it!
Plus, I'd LOVE to finish above Arsenal.

Whitgord · Post by **Whitgord** » Fri Jul 17, 2020 3:39 pm

For the integrity of the competition we should always start with the best 11 available. Fine to bring on youngsters when we are 3-0 ahead.

mdd2 · Post by **mdd2** » Fri Jul 17, 2020 3:51 pm

Whitgord wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 17, 2020 3:39 pm
For the integrity of the competition we should always start with the best 11 available. Fine to bring on youngsters when we are 3-0 ahead.

Talking of integrity and the Premier League there is an interesting final match between Leicester and Man U depending upon games 37 results. They could both qualify for Europe by a draw in game 38 unless Chelsea beat Wolves by a cricket score.If that is a possibility any guesses on the result?

Gordaleman · Post by **Gordaleman** » Fri Jul 17, 2020 4:08 pm

mdd2 wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 17, 2020 3:51 pm
Talking of integrity and the Premier League there is an interesting final match between Leicester and Man U depending upon games 37 results. They could both qualify for Europe by a draw in game 38 unless Chelsea beat Wolves by a cricket score.If that is a possibility any guesses on the result?

I'm not sure the words integrity and Man Ure belong together.

ashtonlongsider · Post by **ashtonlongsider** » Fri Jul 17, 2020 4:18 pm

I'd have been very surprised had Chaz played and I can't see him playing again this season.

Giftonsnoidea · Post by **Giftonsnoidea** » Fri Jul 17, 2020 4:24 pm

ZizkovClaret wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 17, 2020 2:55 pm
I'd like to see a 433 with Jay Wood and Vydra up front and Mcneil in the hole ahead of a defensive midfield 2.

If not now, when?

I dont think we’ve ever played well in a 4-3-3 tbh think we tried it at west ham last season or season before

Top Claret · Post by **Top Claret** » Fri Jul 17, 2020 5:50 pm

Can't see us losing this one with or without Charlie, we will grind the Canaries down

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Fri Jul 17, 2020 7:25 pm

From what I've seen Wood and Rodriguez doesn't quite work.
Vydra was very good with Rodriguez, and not at all bad the other night with Wood.

I'd go with:

Pope,
Bardsley, Tarkowski, Long, Pieters,
Gudmundsson, Brownhill, Westwood, McNeil,
Wood, Vydra.

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Sat Jul 18, 2020 8:19 am

boatshed bill wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 17, 2020 7:25 pm
From what I've seen Wood and Rodriguez doesn't quite work.

I agree with that, 2 very similar players, neither pose any real pace/skill to beat a man 1v1.
We seem to play direct a hell of a lot more with Wood and Jay together.

Vydra helps us mix it up a little more and gives the defenders something different to think about.

The anout if times he beats the back line is encouraging.

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Sat Jul 18, 2020 8:42 am

taio wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 17, 2020 3:13 pm
Win both games we have an outside chance of 8th don't we? Lose both games and could end up in 12th. I would hope Dyche wants to finish as a high in the league as possible mainly for the club but also for his personal record. At £2m a place we are not in a position to not take the games seriously. The idea there is nothing to play for is rubbish in my view and I don't think Dyche will be chucking the youngsters in.

I'm not sure it makes much difference to the club really. I get the feeling the higher we finish most of the money disappears on player bonuses anyway.

taio · Post by **taio** » Sat Jul 18, 2020 8:45 am

jrgbfc wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 18, 2020 8:42 am
I'm not sure it makes much difference to the club really. I get the feeling the higher we finish most of the money disappears on player bonuses anyway.

Sorry, but words like 'I get the feeling' don't really cut it with me.

Let's see what team Dyche puts out today - I will come back here this evening and hold my hands up if he doesn't play his strongest side from those fully fit.

Transpennine · Post by **Transpennine** » Sat Jul 18, 2020 8:47 am

jrgbfc wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 18, 2020 8:42 am
I'm not sure it makes much difference to the club really. I get the feeling the higher we finish most of the money disappears on player bonuses anyway.

It'll matter to the players then...

Ilkley claret · Post by **Ilkley claret** » Sat Jul 18, 2020 8:50 am

The team is desperate to keep two more clean sheets so Nick has a chance of winning the Golden Gloves, which I understand has been won only once before from a team outside the Top 6.

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Sat Jul 18, 2020 8:51 am

taio wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 18, 2020 8:45 am
Sorry, but words like 'I get the feeling' don't really cut it with me.

Let's see what team Dyche puts out today - I will come back here this evening and hold my hands up if he doesn't play his strongest side from those fully fit.

I thought it was fairly well known? We make up for not paying as much by offering big bonuses for league position. Anyway for what it's worth I agree with you, no way he'll throw a load of kids in. The team pretty much picks itself.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Jul 18, 2020 9:40 am

jrgbfc wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 18, 2020 8:42 am
I'm not sure it makes much difference to the club really. I get the feeling the higher we finish most of the money disappears on player bonuses anyway.

I think it would make a big difference.
We'd be paying the bonuses from the extra we get from the league placing, as opposed to paying them from the bank.

It's a decent saving/reward whichever way you look at it.

warksclaret · Post by **warksclaret** » Sat Jul 18, 2020 9:56 am

Saw some good glimpses of JBG on Wednesday night, and reminded me that if he stays fit he offers something the others don't. He could turn out to be one of our top performers v Norwich

paulatky · Post by **paulatky** » Sat Jul 18, 2020 10:20 am

Gordaleman wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 17, 2020 2:44 pm
Barring miracles, we won't be in Europe next year, but I think the squad want to beat that 54 point target. Apart from Taylor, I think we'll have our strongest team out in both remaining games.

So Ben Mee not in our strongest team in your opinion

Gordaleman · Post by **Gordaleman** » Sat Jul 18, 2020 10:26 am

paulatky wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 18, 2020 10:20 am
So Ben Mee not in our strongest team in your opinion

Of course Ben Mee would be in in normal circumstances, but we already knew that he was out for the season. Stop being pedantic.

Mala591 · Post by **Mala591** » Sat Jul 18, 2020 10:34 am

Objectives for todays game:

1. Win
2. Play creative, open and exciting football

yorkyclaret · Post by **yorkyclaret** » Sat Jul 18, 2020 11:13 am

Ilkley claret wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 18, 2020 8:50 am
The team is desperate to keep two more clean sheets so Nick has a chance of winning the Golden Gloves, which I understand has been won only once before from a team outside the Top 6.

2 goalless draws would do nicely.

Transpennine · Post by **Transpennine** » Sat Jul 18, 2020 11:15 am

Mala591 wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 18, 2020 10:34 am
Objectives for todays game:

1. Win
2. Play creative, open and exciting football

Objectives for today:
1. Win
2. Don't forget No.1

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sat Jul 18, 2020 11:15 am

yorkyclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 18, 2020 11:13 am
2 goalless draws would do nicely.

I’d prefer us to win the games than Pope win a fairly meaningless competition.

Gordaleman · Post by **Gordaleman** » Sat Jul 18, 2020 11:24 am

Rileybobs wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 18, 2020 11:15 am
I’d prefer us to win the games than Pope win a fairly meaningless competition.

I agree with that. Goalkeepers clean sheets are always more down to the defenders in front of them than the goalkeeper himself, and we have defenders who defend as though their lives were on the line.

Still, it would be nice for Popey and it might help his England chances too.