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Can we cheat a little

Post by ClaretMov » Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:43 am

Would it count for Pope to play v Brighton for say ten minutes keep a clean sheet and then sub him, that way he would win the golden glove or does he have to play the full game.
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Re: Can we cheat a little

Post by fatboy47 » Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:44 am

No need.

Pope could play from dawn till dusk against that shower without conceding atm.
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Re: Can we cheat a little

Post by NewClaret » Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:46 am

ClaretMov wrote:
Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:43 am
Would it count for Pope to play v Brighton for say ten minutes keep a clean sheet and then sub him, that way he would win the golden glove or does he have to play the full game.
I wondered that :lol:

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Re: Can we cheat a little

Post by taio » Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:46 am

Don't think that would work and we'd look pretty pathetic for doing it anyway.

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Re: Can we cheat a little

Post by Goobs » Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:51 am

If City concede in their next game then he's guaranteed it anyway.

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Re: Can we cheat a little

Post by summitclaret » Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:51 am

If he has already won it by then, maybe BPF should get a game or at least some of it. Perfect chance to blood him with 5 subs allowed.

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Re: Can we cheat a little

Post by wilks_bfc » Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:52 am

Unfortunately I don’t think he’ll win it
City’s remaining 2 games are Watford & Norwich so Ederson isnt facing the most prolific strike forces

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Re: Can we cheat a little

Post by PremierLeagueClass » Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:02 am

Norwich always seem to carve out a decent chance or two. We would have conceded at least one yesterday without superb goalkeeping from Pope.

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Re: Can we cheat a little

Post by Spijed » Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:08 am

How is the award decided when two keepers are level?

Is it then down to number of games played?

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Re: Can we cheat a little

Post by wilks_bfc » Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:10 am

PremierLeagueClass wrote:
Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:02 am
Norwich always seem to carve out a decent chance or two. We would have conceded at least one yesterday without superb goalkeeping from Pope.
They’ve scored 2 since the restart and had only scored 4 since January before then.

They may create them but they can’t finish them

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Re: Can we cheat a little

Post by wilks_bfc » Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:10 am

Spijed wrote:
Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:08 am
How is the award decided when two keepers are level?

Is it then down to number of games played?
Glove each?

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Re: Can we cheat a little

Post by mdd2 » Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:12 am

Don't be surprised if they decide to change the rules and have it that a keeper has to play a minimum of for example 30 games and then award the glove on the percentage of clean sheets thus replacing Nick by I suspect Ederson.
We cannot have a Burnley player being rewarded can we? No one like us

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Re: Can we cheat a little

Post by ClaretMov » Sun Jul 19, 2020 11:36 am

wilks_bfc wrote:
Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:52 am
Unfortunately I don’t think he’ll win it
City’s remaining 2 games are Watford & Norwich so Ederson isnt facing the most prolific strike forces

Pope is 1 clean sheet ahead with 1 game to go if he keeps a clean sheet v Brighton he wins (joint top) with the city keeper who have two games to play, even if he keeps both clean sheets, if not then Pope wins it outright.

Unless the ref gives a dodgy 95 min pen to stop us if that happens Dyche needs to sub Pope before the pen lol

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Re: Can we cheat a little

Post by wilks_bfc » Sun Jul 19, 2020 11:49 am

ClaretMov wrote:
Sun Jul 19, 2020 11:36 am
Pope is 1 clean sheet ahead with 1 game to go if he keeps a clean sheet v Brighton he wins (joint top) with the city keeper who have two games to play, even if he keeps both clean sheets, if not then Pope wins it outright.

Unless the ref gives a dodgy 95 min pen to stop us if that happens Dyche needs to sub Pope before the pen lol
Sorry I was meaning win “outright”

I never was one for sharing 😂
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Re: Can we cheat a little

Post by mickleoverclaret » Sun Jul 19, 2020 12:10 pm

Doubt it would work as when Pope made his PL debut replacing Heaton against Palace he wasn't credited with a clean sheet because he hadn't played 90 minutes.

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Re: Can we cheat a little

Post by Tall Paul » Sun Jul 19, 2020 12:12 pm

Spijed wrote:
Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:08 am
How is the award decided when two keepers are level?

Is it then down to number of games played?
It's shared.

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Anything to stop Nick Pope being subbed after a minute?

Post by Spijed » Fri Jul 24, 2020 4:42 pm

So he at least shares the Golden Glove award?

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Re: Anything to stop Nick Pope being subbed after a minute?

Post by Rowls » Fri Jul 24, 2020 4:43 pm

Dignity?

Sportsmanship?

Character?

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Re: Anything to stop Nick Pope being subbed after a minute?

Post by Rowls » Fri Jul 24, 2020 4:43 pm

Sean Dyche
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Re: Anything to stop Nick Pope being subbed after a minute?

Post by bobinho » Fri Jul 24, 2020 4:46 pm

He will play the 90, nowt no surer...

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Re: Anything to stop Nick Pope being subbed after a minute?

Post by Spijed » Fri Jul 24, 2020 4:46 pm

Rowls wrote:
Fri Jul 24, 2020 4:43 pm
Dignity?

Sportsmanship?

Character?
For years managers have given players a few minutes here and there just so they can get record number of appearances/winners medals etc. I see this as being no different.

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Re: Anything to stop Nick Pope being subbed after a minute?

Post by NottsClaret » Fri Jul 24, 2020 4:48 pm

No chance Dyche would do something as cringe as that.

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Re: Anything to stop Nick Pope being subbed after a minute?

Post by Rowls » Fri Jul 24, 2020 4:48 pm

Spijed wrote:
Fri Jul 24, 2020 4:46 pm
For years managers have given players a few minutes here and there just so they can get record number of appearances/winners medals etc. I see this as being no different.
Managers do this when trophies / championships have already been won.

This is different. If Pope is to win the Golden Gloves he will have to do so on merit and that is what is right.

Imagine how we'd feel if Ederson gets subbed on the first minute but Man City concede a world class unstoppable screamer and Pope does so also.

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Re: Anything to stop Nick Pope being subbed after a minute?

Post by Vegas Claret » Fri Jul 24, 2020 4:49 pm

Pretty sure Nick will want to play the full game.

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Re: Anything to stop Nick Pope being subbed after a minute?

Post by huw.Y.WattfromWare » Fri Jul 24, 2020 4:51 pm

Duplicate thread. Previous thread it was pointed out he kept a clean sheet after replacing Tom Heaton but it didn’t go on his record.

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Re: Anything to stop Nick Pope being subbed after a minute?

Post by Buxtonclaret » Fri Jul 24, 2020 4:53 pm

Spijed wrote:
Fri Jul 24, 2020 4:46 pm
For years managers have given players a few minutes here and there just so they can get record number of appearances/winners medals etc. I see this as being no different.
It is different though.
Playing most the game without our best keeper with a lot of (now very much needed) money up for grabs?
That's without undermining the integrity our manager has been instilling during his tenure.

Maybe when we're 5-0 up after 15 minutes, I'd run with it. :lol:

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Re: Anything to stop Nick Pope being subbed after a minute?

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Fri Jul 24, 2020 5:00 pm

Neither Dyche or Pope would want to do that.

Pope is our first choice keeper, we will be going out there for a win and he's one of our best chances to get that.

We already know he's been the best English keeper this season, a golden glove would just be the icing on the cake to confirm it but not worth sacrificing integrity over.

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Re: Anything to stop Nick Pope being subbed after a minute?

Post by Rileybobs » Fri Jul 24, 2020 5:02 pm

Jesus. How OTT are some people going with this Golden Glove Award.

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Re: Anything to stop Nick Pope being subbed after a minute?

Post by Alanstevensonsgloves » Fri Jul 24, 2020 5:05 pm

I see klopp brought Curtis Jones on so he got his winners medal Chelsea. I think a min 5 appearances (start or sub) is ridiculous. Should be min 15 starts for a medal

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Re: Anything to stop Nick Pope being subbed after a minute?

Post by Alanstevensonsgloves » Fri Jul 24, 2020 5:05 pm

I see klopp brought Curtis Jones on so he got his winners medal Chelsea. I think a min 5 appearances (start or sub) is ridiculous. Should be min 15 starts for a medal

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Re: Anything to stop Nick Pope being subbed after a minute?

Post by NottsClaret » Fri Jul 24, 2020 5:05 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Fri Jul 24, 2020 5:02 pm
Jesus. How OTT are some people going with this Golden Glove Award.
It's a strange one. I think some weirdos will have it down as a disappointing season if he doesn't win it now. Honestly didn't even know it was a thing until a couple of weeks ago.

About as relevant to anything as who's taken the most throw ins this season.

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Re: Anything to stop Nick Pope being subbed after a minute?

Post by SalisburyClaret » Fri Jul 24, 2020 5:21 pm

NottsClaret wrote:
Fri Jul 24, 2020 5:05 pm
It's a strange one. I think some weirdos will have it down as a disappointing season if he doesn't win it now. Honestly didn't even know it was a thing until a couple of weeks ago.

About as relevant to anything as who's taken the most throw ins this season.
It’s an award for the best keeper, who’ll win it because he has the best defence if front of him with the whole team contributing. We don’t win much, it’s not a flat playing field after all. So this is something we could win which would be a great celebration of how well we’ve played this season. Let’s face it we’re lucky to get on MOTD. This level of recognition would be terrific
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Re: Anything to stop Nick Pope being subbed after a minute?

Post by DCWat » Fri Jul 24, 2020 5:46 pm

NottsClaret wrote:
Fri Jul 24, 2020 5:05 pm
It's a strange one. I think some weirdos will have it down as a disappointing season if he doesn't win it now. Honestly didn't even know it was a thing until a couple of weeks ago.

About as relevant to anything as who's taken the most throw ins this season.
The golden throw in award!?

It certainly won’t affect my view of how well we have done this season, but what a great award for Pope to win. I’d love him to win it.

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Re: Can we cheat a little

Post by Bfcboyo » Fri Jul 24, 2020 7:07 pm

ClaretMov wrote:
Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:43 am
Wife will find out don't do it.

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Re: Can we cheat a little

Post by dougcollins » Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:17 pm

A real golden glove would be quite heavy. And difficult to put on, I should imagine.

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