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Bournemouth v Saints

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Jul 19, 2020 2:42 pm

0-1 Ings again

Given his pro debut by Howe apparently

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Re: Bournemouth v Saints

Post by Stayingup » Sun Jul 19, 2020 2:52 pm

If I had a wish list of current ex-players to return to us Danny Ings would be first, closely followed by Kieran Trippier.

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Re: Bournemouth v Saints

Post by tiger76 » Sun Jul 19, 2020 3:20 pm

Ings just fluffed a pen, could be the lifeline Bournemouth need.

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Re: Bournemouth v Saints

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Jul 19, 2020 3:24 pm

Front two of Bournemouth don't look remotely interested

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Re: Bournemouth v Saints

Post by mdd2 » Sun Jul 19, 2020 3:38 pm

End of the road if they lose this surely.

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Re: Bournemouth v Saints

Post by Rileybobs » Sun Jul 19, 2020 3:39 pm

mdd2 wrote:
Sun Jul 19, 2020 3:38 pm
End of the road if they lose this surely.
Not really. A win against Everton would probably keep them up.

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Post by Spijed » Sun Jul 19, 2020 3:40 pm

mdd2 wrote:
Sun Jul 19, 2020 3:38 pm
End of the road if they lose this surely.
They've got a winnable game against Everton to come. Watford have Man city and Arsenal.

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Post by ElectroClaret » Sun Jul 19, 2020 3:47 pm

Poor as Everton are, I can't see them winning there.

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Re: Bournemouth v Saints

Post by ClaretTony » Sun Jul 19, 2020 3:51 pm

1-1

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Re: Bournemouth v Saints

Post by ClaretTony » Sun Jul 19, 2020 3:52 pm

Oh hang on - VAR looking

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Re: Bournemouth v Saints

Post by ClaretTony » Sun Jul 19, 2020 3:53 pm

Still 1-0 to Southampton - well offside. Bad miss by assistant ref.

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Post by Kgun5 » Sun Jul 19, 2020 3:53 pm

No goal.

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Post by Rileybobs » Sun Jul 19, 2020 3:55 pm

Bit of a blow to their morale but they’ll probably still go into the last game with a win being enough.

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Re: Bournemouth v Saints

Post by ClaretTony » Sun Jul 19, 2020 3:55 pm

And now 2-0 Southampton

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Post by Culmclaret » Sun Jul 19, 2020 3:56 pm

Sickener for them but they were 7th after 11 games and have won 4 out of 26 since. Definitely one of the three worst sides,

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Re: Bournemouth v Saints

Post by Rileybobs » Sun Jul 19, 2020 3:57 pm

Goal difference now meaning that Watford will need to lose one of their games by more than a goal to put it in Bournemouth’s hands, so to speak. Very likely with Man City and Arsenal as the next two opponents though.

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Re: Bournemouth v Saints

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Jul 19, 2020 3:58 pm

I can't see them getting a win at Everton, that's them gone for me

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Post by mdd2 » Sun Jul 19, 2020 3:59 pm

Oh dear oh dear. It is a truism that when you are down you really are, as poor form plus lady luck deserts you. Poor Norwich yesterday, lose 2 players and then score an OG.
There is now a 5 goal deficit compared with Watford and now in 19th place

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Post by FactualFrank » Sun Jul 19, 2020 4:00 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Sun Jul 19, 2020 3:58 pm
I can't see them getting a win at Everton, that's them gone for me
And they'd likely need a decent sized win too. Like 3-0.

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Post by BurnleyFC » Sun Jul 19, 2020 4:02 pm

Poor Eddie and Jase.

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Post by mdd2 » Sun Jul 19, 2020 4:02 pm

Villa may have a better shout with a win at WHU last day should Watford lose their two games by 4 goals as Villa would stay up with same GD having scored more goals than Watford if there is only a goal difference in Villa's favour at the Hammers

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Re: Bournemouth v Saints

Post by Rileybobs » Sun Jul 19, 2020 4:03 pm

mdd2 wrote:
Sun Jul 19, 2020 3:59 pm
Oh dear oh dear. It is a truism that when you are down you really are, as poor form plus lady luck deserts you. Poor Norwich yesterday, lose 2 players and then score an OG.
There is now a 5 goal deficit compared with Watford and now in 19th place
Only a 4 goal deficit which means that two Watford defeats and a Bournemouth win would mean survival for Bournemouth provided that either City or Arsenal win by more than a 1 goal margin, or Bournemouth do. Tough game for Bournemouth but I think a win will keep them up. Cup final.

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Re: Bournemouth v Saints

Post by taio » Sun Jul 19, 2020 4:04 pm

FactualFrank wrote:
Sun Jul 19, 2020 4:00 pm
And they'd likely need a decent sized win too. Like 3-0.
1-0 win could do it. But I think they are down.

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Re: Bournemouth v Saints

Post by Rileybobs » Sun Jul 19, 2020 4:04 pm

FactualFrank wrote:
Sun Jul 19, 2020 4:00 pm
And they'd likely need a decent sized win too. Like 3-0.
As above, if Watford lose both games then a 2-0 win against Everton would guarantee safety.

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Re: Bournemouth v Saints

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Jul 19, 2020 4:04 pm

FactualFrank wrote:
Sun Jul 19, 2020 4:00 pm
And they'd likely need a decent sized win too. Like 3-0.
not sure, I think Man City will destroy Watford after losing yesterday, they need a reaction and a big win to get them ready for Madrid

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Re: Bournemouth v Saints

Post by tiger76 » Sun Jul 19, 2020 4:04 pm

FactualFrank wrote:
Sun Jul 19, 2020 4:00 pm
And they'd likely need a decent sized win too. Like 3-0.
Possibly depends how much of a hit Watford's GD takes in the City & Arsenal games, but you get the feeling the gods aren't with Bournemouth this season.

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Re: Bournemouth v Saints

Post by bfcjg » Sun Jul 19, 2020 4:04 pm

Looks like they've popped their cherry.

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Re: Bournemouth v Saints

Post by bobinho » Sun Jul 19, 2020 4:24 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sun Jul 19, 2020 3:53 pm
Still 1-0 to Southampton - well offside. Bad miss by assistant ref.
And that's the trouble with VAR as it is right now... Assistants don't really need to do anything anymore, the game is managed from a studio now. Offsides can't be missed, handballs cant be missed, no requirement for anyone to make a call, no requirement for anyone to remain focussed....it's far too clinical for me. I thought it would help clubs like ours in getting a fair deal when playing the big boys, but i'm not convinced it works like that. Yes, I'm a cynic.
It could be really good, if people who have been involved in the game for years get involved and sort it out, but i cant see that happening. A five minute look at Rugby and Cricket would bring it a damn sight closer to where it needs to be.

How long will we have assistant refs for now do we think?

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Re: Bournemouth v Saints

Post by Spijed » Sun Jul 19, 2020 4:27 pm

bobinho wrote:
Sun Jul 19, 2020 4:24 pm
A five minute look at Rugby and Cricket would bring it a damn sight closer to where it needs to be.

How long will we have assistant refs for now do we think?
But in cricket there are no decisions that are opinion based. It's completely different, likewise with rugby.

In cricket you are either out or not. How can you decide whether it's handball or not for example, such as the penalty against Wolves?

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Re: Bournemouth v Saints

Post by pushpinpussy » Sun Jul 19, 2020 4:30 pm

I will say one word: Schadenfreude

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Post by IanMcL » Sun Jul 19, 2020 4:49 pm

Sean Dyche to be longest serving manager in prem?
For how long....?


Years I hope!

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Re: Bournemouth v Saints

Post by bobinho » Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:00 pm

Spijed wrote:
Sun Jul 19, 2020 4:27 pm
But in cricket there are no decisions that are opinion based. It's completely different, likewise with rugby.

In cricket you are either out or not. How can you decide whether it's handball or not for example, such as the penalty against Wolves?
Maybe cricket wasnt a good example really, other than the limited use during the game. The umpire makes the decision and unless reviewed that’s it. I’m not saying we should have the same review procedure in football, just that if there’s nothing to see, leave it be. Seems to me every goal is scrutinised by a panel who are looking for a reason to disallow it.

Maybe they should just manage it better like it is in rugby. Let “clear and obvious error” mean just that and get on with it as it is if it’s neither.

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