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Watford Manager Odds

Post by Gordaleman » Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:16 pm

Claude Puel 6/4
Sam Allardyce 8/1
Chris Hughton 8/1
Danny Cowley 10/1
John Terry 10/1
Hayden Mullins 12/1
Sabri Lamouchi 14/1
Thomas Frank 14/1
Steven Gerrard 16/1
Aitor Karanka 16/1
Adrian Boothroyd 20/1
Sean Dyche 25/1

For someone who is supposed to be keen to leave Burnley, Sean is pretty long odds to rejoin his old club.

I don't think it's happening folks.

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Re: Watford Manager Odds

Post by FactualFrank » Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:18 pm

Chris Hughton 8/1 look reasonable odds.

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Post by duncandisorderly » Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:21 pm

pleasebeaidyboothroydpleasebeaidyboothroydpleasebeaidyboothroyd

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Re: Watford Manager Odds

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:22 pm

Remember, Watford don’t want a manager. They have a head coach only with Filippo Giraldi in charge of all recruitment. Then you have the interfering owner Gino Pozzo.
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Post by duncandisorderly » Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:23 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:22 pm
Remember, Watford don’t want a manager. They have a head coach only with Filippo Giraldi in charge of all recruitment. Then you have the interfering owner Gino Pozzo.
Which begs the question - why bin Pearson? By any measure he has improved Watford since he took over, which is surely the sole remit of a coach.

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Post by Woonderbah » Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:26 pm

Should imagine that list will increase or decrease depending on tomorrow night's games.
Don't know much about him but Thomas Frank has Brentford performing well.

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Post by kentonclaret » Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:26 pm

No need for Sean to revisit past mistakes when the Crystal Palace job will soon be available. :lol:

Palace have already suffered 6 straight losses which will become 7 tonight after a drubbing by Wolves.

Defeat at home to Tottenham on Sunday will make it 8.

Not many clubs stick by the manager at the end of a season with the team in such an awful run of form.

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Post by Devils_Advocate » Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:27 pm

Cant see Watford wanting Dyche if they stay up so at 25-1 I wouldn't waste your money

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Post by Gordaleman » Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:27 pm

duncandisorderly wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:21 pm
pleasebeaidyboothroydpleasebeaidyboothroydpleasebeaidyboothroyd
If it's not going to be Sean (Highly unlikely) then I couldn't care less who it is. Whoever it is has a helluva job on his hands.
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Post by Woonderbah » Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:30 pm

Colin will be ooc after Wednesday night.
Watford might whet his whistle.

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Re: Watford Manager Odds

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:31 pm

This is what Watford threw away back in 2012.

https://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/sport ... as-a-club/

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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:38 pm

Karanka just for a laugh.
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Post by tiger76 » Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:40 pm

Why would any aspiring manager go to Watford, they're a basket case of a club, remind you of Leeds in the Cellino era.

I can't understand why you'd bin Pearson when he's dragged them off the canvas, and given them a fighting chance of survival.

Since he's been there they are 12th in the league, that's about where you'd expect them to finish, so this seems a panic move.

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Post by Woonderbah » Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:46 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:31 pm
This is what Watford threw away back in 2012.

https://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/sport ... as-a-club/

Just looks odd in a black/gold tie.. and that cheap looking casio watch has been replaced too.
The reporter clearly held SD in the highest regard

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Re: Watford Manager Odds

Post by Gordaleman » Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:46 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:31 pm
This is what Watford threw away back in 2012.

https://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/sport ... as-a-club/
A couple of the comments at the botton made me smile.

The very first one says: Good luck Sean, Burnley have got a potentially top class manager and a gentleman.

Another says: He will be able to buy players at Burnley, rather than having to sell his best players at Watford. (Hmmm, welll, aargh.)

And another: I for one will applaud you on 29th March Sean. I'm sure you will make an excellent manager at Burnley as you were certainly on the road to becoming one had you been allowed to stay at Watford.


Don't think he's changed much in eight years. I hope he's here another eight.
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Re: Watford Manager Odds

Post by SalisburyClaret » Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:48 pm

If there’s one club SD won’t be goi g to - it’s Watford

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Re: Watford Manager Odds

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:50 pm

Woonderbah wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:46 pm
Just looks odd in a black/gold tie.. and that cheap looking casio watch has been replaced too.
The reporter clearly held SD in the highest regard
When it was clear that he was going to be our new manager I spoke to Frank Smith at the Watford Observer to ask about him. He had nothing but good words for him, said he was the best manager he’d worked with in terms of dealing with him. Everything Frank writes there we’ve all seen since.

I never thought he’d be this good though.

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Post by Taffy on the wing » Mon Jul 20, 2020 6:08 pm

Best manager we'll ever see at Burnley.

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Post by Nonayforever » Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:53 pm

Reading this thread got me thinking about the George Michael song " different corners "

If it wasn't for Watford sacking SD, he would never have applied for the Burnley job.

If i remember correctly, SD was in a two horse race with Steven Pressley in the final interviews. Luckily for Burnley & SD, he was appointed.

If you look back at the last few seasons and compare the three, Watford , Burnley coupled with SD and Steven Pressley, we certainly got the winner.

Watford have gone from pillar to post, 13 managers is it ? Burnley - whether you love the SD style of play / management or not, nobody can dispute the fact that he has been very successful, whilst Steven Pressley has drifted into oblivion.

Lets hope the end of this season doesn't present another different corner.

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Post by Woonderbah » Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:01 pm

Wasn't Sean O'Driscoll (Donny manager) heavily linked at the time too ? Or was that when Laws was appointed ?

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Post by Taffy on the wing » Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:15 pm

It was O'Driscoll & i was rooting for him.........thank God we didn't hire him.
The rest is history.

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Re: Watford Manager Odds

Post by Clarets4me » Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:17 pm

SalisburyClaret wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:48 pm
If there’s one club SD won’t be goi g to - it’s Watford
I suggest it might as well as be 1000/1 as 25/1 that Sean Dyche will be the next manager at Watford ! ;)

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Re: Watford Manager Odds

Post by tiger76 » Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:19 pm

SalisburyClaret wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:48 pm
If there’s one club SD won’t be goi g to - it’s Watford
Well he certainly won't be going there if they go down. :lol:

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Post by warksclaret » Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:36 pm

Could not be two more different clubs. At Burnley he has been pivotal and involved in numerous plans and decisions. At Watford (where he has already been unfairly outed), he would have no or little say, and certainly job security would be well down the list of importance for the callous and clinical owners

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Post by IanMcL » Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:03 pm

Italian job.

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Post by bfcjg » Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:08 pm

Elton John.

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Post by boatshed bill » Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:05 pm

it's going to be Puel.

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Post by TheOriginalLongsider » Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:15 pm

Gerrard though. You can’t think that he particular wants to stay long term in Scotland.

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Post by Vegas Claret » Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:18 pm

I'm more concerned about Palace

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Post by tiger76 » Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:32 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:18 pm
I'm more concerned about Palace
That was my worry but they've been discussing Palace on Radio 5, and one of Roy's complaints is that they can't compete in the market, so SD could be going from the chip pan into the fire if he goes down to Palace.

Leicester's the vacancy that concerns me the most, but i think they'll stick with Brenda for now.

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Post by bfcmik » Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:33 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:31 pm
This is what Watford threw away back in 2012.

https://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/sport ... as-a-club/
And these two paragraphs shows why he hasn't been courted by a big team:
"By his own admission, Dyche’s Watford were not the finished article and at times the football was not the most attractive, but there are of course flaws in all teams and this was a developing side.

What the Hornets did have though, was real togetherness and a work ethic which was the envy of most managers in the division."

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Post by claretfern » Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:53 pm

-IF- Sean was to leave (hopefully not) my initial thoughts were Crystal Palace being a likely destination for him (the way they are finishing the season could tempt them to make a change)
Now though, I think Palace might be more inclined to look at Eddie Howe if Bournemouth drop down. My guess is Eddie will stay in the EPL somewhere.....

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Post by Burnleyareback2 » Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:09 pm

I think it’s more like 1000-1 for Dyche to go to Watford. They screwed him over before, why would he go back now after watching that Managerial mess unfold Over the last few years.

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Post by Burnleyareback2 » Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:11 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:32 pm
That was my worry but they've been discussing Palace on Radio 5, and one of Roy's complaints is that they can't compete in the market, so SD could be going from the chip pan into the fire if he goes down to Palace.

Leicester's the vacancy that concerns me the most, but i think they'll stick with Brenda for now.
Palace and perhaps Everton have to be the most underperforming teams in the league. Imagine being a Palace fan, they have spent some real money over the years and manage to finish around 12th every year.

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Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:08 am

tiger76 wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:32 pm
That was my worry but they've been discussing Palace on Radio 5, and one of Roy's complaints is that they can't compete in the market, so SD could be going from the chip pan into the fire if he goes down to Palace.

Leicester's the vacancy that concerns me the most, but i think they'll stick with Brenda for now.
interesting, I figured Palace had enough brass considering what they are paying Zaha

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Post by dsr » Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:23 am

Vegas Claret wrote:
Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:08 am
interesting, I figured Palace had enough brass considering what they are paying Zaha
Their wages are £30m more than ours and their squad cost £80m more, but their net spend on transfers for the last couple of years has been less than Burnley's and Zaha is becoming a drug on the market. He won't fetch what he would have done a couple o fyears back and he isn't winning as many penalties as he used to. (Or scoring as many goals, but that was a lesser part of his game.)

The club has liabilities of £80m more than its current assets, their annual operating profit before player ins and outs is about £14m compared with Burnley's £35m, and their owner doesn't appear to be inclined to put money in - quite the reverse, in fact.

If Sean Dyche wants to go somewhere with more money to spend, Palace isn't it. IMO.
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Post by dsr » Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:26 am

Gordaleman wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:16 pm
Claude Puel 6/4
Sam Allardyce 8/1
Chris Hughton 8/1
Danny Cowley 10/1
John Terry 10/1
Hayden Mullins 12/1
Sabri Lamouchi 14/1
Thomas Frank 14/1
Steven Gerrard 16/1
Aitor Karanka 16/1
Adrian Boothroyd 20/1
Sean Dyche 25/1

For someone who is supposed to be keen to leave Burnley, Sean is pretty long odds to rejoin his old club.

I don't think it's happening folks.
Well, he isn't going to watford, obviously. If he was keen enough to leave Burnley that Watford were on his list of options, then he would have resigned already. Apart from the money, the only reason for anyone with a steady job to go and work as Watford's next manager is because he wants to spend Christmas with his family.

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Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Jul 21, 2020 5:16 am

dsr wrote:
Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:23 am
Their wages are £30m more than ours and their squad cost £80m more, but their net spend on transfers for the last couple of years has been less than Burnley's and Zaha is becoming a drug on the market. He won't fetch what he would have done a couple o fyears back and he isn't winning as many penalties as he used to. (Or scoring as many goals, but that was a lesser part of his game.)

The club has liabilities of £80m more than its current assets, their annual operating profit before player ins and outs is about £14m compared with Burnley's £35m, and their owner doesn't appear to be inclined to put money in - quite the reverse, in fact.

If Sean Dyche wants to go somewhere with more money to spend, Palace isn't it. IMO.
cheers DSR !

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Post by arise_sir_charge » Tue Jul 21, 2020 6:30 am

One thing that I don’t think has been mentioned in the Sean Dyche leaving threads is the short turnaround this summer.

I think it could play a huge part in persuading him to stay put.

If he jumps ship, he’d have no more than 6 weeks to get into a new club and get it sorted before the league action starts. I think that makes any move far more of a risk that it would ordinarily be.

As we know, Sean is very risk averse so would he fancy putting himself in that position? I’m not sure he would.

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Post by BenWickes » Tue Jul 21, 2020 6:37 am

arise_sir_charge wrote:
Tue Jul 21, 2020 6:30 am
One thing that I don’t think has been mentioned in the Sean Dyche leaving threads is the short turnaround this summer.

I think it could play a huge part in persuading him to stay put.

If he jumps ship, he’d have no more than 6 weeks to get into a new club and get it sorted before the league action starts. I think that makes any move far more of a risk that it would ordinarily be.

As we know, Sean is very risk averse so would he fancy putting himself in that position? I’m not sure he would.
True and that fits hand in glove with the mentalities of a number of clubs who expect instant results. Villa, Watford, Palace will not afford him the patience our board has. True. He got us promoted straight back but it was HIS team, he knew them inside out. Achieving that at a club with personalities, ego's etc will take time to adapt. I doubt clubs like that are looking long term like Dyche and our board are. They want it yesterday.

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Post by TheOriginalLongsider » Tue Jul 21, 2020 7:12 am

Villa would tempt Dyche. I think we are kidding ourselves if we think he will stay with us much longer. I don’t see a drop into the Championship as putting him off.

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Post by Zom Zom » Tue Jul 21, 2020 5:16 pm

Taken from the live feed on the BBC website. Made me chuckle!

Posted at 17:1217:12
Post update
You do wonder if it's even worth Watford appointing a full-time manager again or whether they should go down the Have I Got News For You route, post-Deaton, and just have a different person in charge every week.

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Post by Colburn_Claret » Tue Jul 21, 2020 5:23 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:18 pm
I'm more concerned about Palace
He's done a fair job at Rangers, then they do have the resources to help, but what's the point of staying at a club where finishing second is seen as failure. That's the problem with any two horse race.

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Post by Colburn_Claret » Tue Jul 21, 2020 5:31 pm

Simon Jordan, on Talkshite this morning, said the problem with Woy, is his safety first ethos. His football is based on not going behind, rather than proactively taking a game on. That being the case, maybe Eddie would be a better choice for them, his style would certainly suit the players on the books, even if they will ship a boat load.

If Villa go down they have so many financial issues to face, that it would be passing the shitty end of the stick to whoever takes over there.

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Post by jrgbfc » Tue Jul 21, 2020 5:34 pm

Big rebuilding job at Palace as well, their squad is even older than ours.

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