BFC TRANSFER NEWS SUMMER/AUTUMN 2020 (MUST CONTAIN LINK)

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Thu Aug 13, 2020 9:53 am

Woodleyclaret wrote: ↑
Thu Aug 13, 2020 9:29 am
Kev Long and Jimmy Dunne are both adequate cover at CB
If Tarks is sold we may need to sign Craig Dawson to bring our numbers up but Duffy is now more suitable at a lower league club.PNE or Rovers

How have you come to the conclusion that Dunne is adequate cover for two very good and experienced Premier League defenders?

randomclaret2 · Post by **randomclaret2** » Thu Aug 13, 2020 9:55 am

Jimmy Dunne isnt good enough to play in the Premier League

Bigvince · Post by **Bigvince** » Thu Aug 13, 2020 10:08 am

I can’t really judge jimmy Dunne’s ability, having only seen him once on’t tv. Does anyone on here( who’s seen him play more) think he’s got the potential to play premier league football?

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Thu Aug 13, 2020 10:13 am

Whilst not as good as Tarkowski, Craig Dawson is certainly good enough for us. If we are looking at a centre half he wouldn't be a bad replacement/cover if JT left.

warksclaret · Post by **warksclaret** » Thu Aug 13, 2020 10:29 am

If we keep Mee and Tarks then Duff is great cover. 100 PL games and 30 for his country.A tough no nonsense defender thats slipped down the pecking order at Brighton. I think his game is more suited to us than Brighton

I know there will be an outcry about Long being an acceptable back-up, and I know he does not let us down. To quote SD there are many fine margins in the PL, and over a series of games Duffy will make less mistakes than Long, and we will be a stronger unit. I think if Duffy had been managed by SD for the last 3 games he would be some player. For Dunne I suspect another year on loan, maybe in the SPL where he did well at Hearts,but he hardly excelled at Fleetwood or Sunderland

Woodleyclaret · Post by **Woodleyclaret** » Thu Aug 13, 2020 10:30 am

Jimmy Dunne is full international who looks to developing well
Again we have fans talking down our rising stars.If Duffy isn't fit for Brighton, a bottom half of the league team he certainly isnt fit for us

Spike · Post by **Spike** » Thu Aug 13, 2020 10:35 am

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑
Wed Aug 12, 2020 3:33 pm
he had a huge row with Woan

We all have things that go wrong at work! We get on with out of self respect.

I have yet to be convinced that Ben Gibson hasn’t been anything other than dodgy

Jakubs Tash · Post by **Jakubs Tash** » Thu Aug 13, 2020 11:14 am

Woodleyclaret wrote: ↑
Thu Aug 13, 2020 10:30 am
Jimmy Dunne is full international who looks to developing well
Again we have fans talking down our rising stars.If Duffy isn't fit for Brighton, a bottom half of the league team he certainly isnt fit for us

Jimmy Dunne is nearly 23 years old (not a kid) and has been on loan to League One and League Two teams where he hasn't featured in all games due to not being selected. I have seen him play for the U23s and, again, he doesn't really look like he's a cut above (which McNeil did, for example) or even the best the defender on the pitch.

Just my opinion, but I do not think Jimmy Dunne is up to being part of a Premier League squad.

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Thu Aug 13, 2020 11:29 am

Jakubs Tash wrote: ↑
Thu Aug 13, 2020 11:14 am
Jimmy Dunne is nearly 23 years old (not a kid) and has been on loan to League One and League Two teams where he hasn't featured in all games due to not being selected. I have seen him play for the U23s and, again, he doesn't really look like he's a cut above (which McNeil did, for example) or even the best the defender on the pitch.

Just my opinion, but I do not think Jimmy Dunne is up to being part of a Premier League squad.

Would tend to agree with this. I’ve seen him play a few times and he looks on the slow side and doesn’t have the best of techniques.
As said he wasn’t a regular at Sunderland - who failed to get promotion and weren’t pulling up any trees themselves. He seemed to do ok at Hearts but hard to judge in such a poor league when you are only really tested when you play Celtic (or Rangers more recently).
At 23 he still does have time to develop but to me it feels like it would be a huge step to get to the standards of the Premier League - especially when he is yet to prove himself in the Championship (he’s not even had any interest from clubs in this division to take him on loan has he ?)

But all that said if we can do a “Kevin Long” with him and develop him into a solid back up player we might save ourselves a few millions buying someone.

FeedTheArf · Post by **FeedTheArf** » Thu Aug 13, 2020 12:22 pm

Dane McCullough. 16 year old defender apparently 'set to sign'

https://www.footballinsider247.com/excl ... rish-star/

BenWickes · Post by **BenWickes** » Thu Aug 13, 2020 12:45 pm

Attacking left-back with a wicked left foot according to their official site bio.

superdimitri · Post by **superdimitri** » Thu Aug 13, 2020 1:07 pm

Ideally you want a left footed player. Dunne and Duffy are both right footed.

warksclaret · Post by **warksclaret** » Thu Aug 13, 2020 1:24 pm

Both Danny Fox and Daniel Lafferty were both attacking left backs with a wicked left foot

Down_Rover · Post by **Down_Rover** » Thu Aug 13, 2020 2:40 pm

FeedTheArf wrote: ↑
Thu Aug 13, 2020 12:22 pm
Dane McCullough. 16 year old defender apparently 'set to sign'

https://www.footballinsider247.com/excl ... rish-star/

Lets hope he is as good as Kevin long. Similar profile so far

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Thu Aug 13, 2020 2:42 pm

Jakubs Tash wrote: ↑
Thu Aug 13, 2020 11:14 am
Jimmy Dunne is nearly 23 years old (not a kid) and has been on loan to League One and League Two teams where he hasn't featured in all games due to not being selected. I have seen him play for the U23s and, again, he doesn't really look like he's a cut above (which McNeil did, for example) or even the best the defender on the pitch.

Just my opinion, but I do not think Jimmy Dunne is up to being part of a Premier League squad.

have to agree, maybe 6 years ago he might have been "one for the future" at that current standard but our first team has moved on massively now

jojomk1 · Post by **jojomk1** » Thu Aug 13, 2020 3:29 pm

BRENTFORD LINE UP HACK

Brentford want to sign Nuremburg winger Robin Hack if they lose Said Benrahma.

The 21-year-old Germany U21 player is a top target should their £25m-rated star move to the Premier League this summer.

Hack came through the youth ranks at Hoffenheim before joining Nuremburg in the Bundesliga 2 last year. He scored 10 goals in 31 appearances last season.

If Brentford fancy the guy someone get a call into Mr Rigg quick

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Thu Aug 13, 2020 4:24 pm

jojomk1 wrote: ↑
Thu Aug 13, 2020 3:29 pm
BRENTFORD LINE UP HACK

Brentford want to sign Nuremburg winger Robin Hack if they lose Said Benrahma.

The 21-year-old Germany U21 player is a top target should their £25m-rated star move to the Premier League this summer.

Hack came through the youth ranks at Hoffenheim before joining Nuremburg in the Bundesliga 2 last year. He scored 10 goals in 31 appearances last season.

If Brentford fancy the guy someone get a call into Mr Rigg quick

Expecting Brentford to be champions by Christmas with their squad next season.

claretonthecoast1882 · Post by **claretonthecoast1882** » Thu Aug 13, 2020 4:28 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote: ↑
Thu Aug 13, 2020 4:24 pm
Expecting Brentford to be champions by Christmas with their squad next season.

And that's with a late start to the season, wonder if they would swap their scouting network for 1 that can both get promoted out the division they are in and then finish top 10 in the division above.

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Thu Aug 13, 2020 4:31 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑
Thu Aug 13, 2020 4:28 pm
And that's with a late start to the season, wonder if they would swap their scouting network for 1 that can both get promoted out the division they are in and then finish top 10 in the division above.

I doubt it they are superior to us just as they are apparently.

Blackburn_Claret · Post by **Blackburn_Claret** » Thu Aug 13, 2020 4:42 pm

Down_Rover wrote: ↑
Thu Aug 13, 2020 2:40 pm
Lets hope he is as good as Kevin long. Similar profile so far

Yeah hopefully he's good enough to steal a wage on our bench for ten years

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Thu Aug 13, 2020 4:45 pm

Blackburn_Claret wrote: ↑
Thu Aug 13, 2020 4:42 pm
Yeah hopefully he's good enough to steal a wage on our bench for ten years

huw.Y.WattfromWare · Post by **huw.Y.WattfromWare** » Thu Aug 13, 2020 5:22 pm

Shane Duffy after our coaching could be a decent signing. Injuries apart nothing wrong with him athletically. He can be prone to decision making errors. We can help him there.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Thu Aug 13, 2020 6:11 pm

huw.Y.WattfromWare wrote: ↑
Thu Aug 13, 2020 5:22 pm
Shane Duffy after our coaching could be a decent signing. Injuries apart nothing wrong with him athletically. He can be prone to decision making errors. We can help him there.

Imagine replacing Tarks with Duffy

Clarets4me · Post by **Clarets4me** » Thu Aug 13, 2020 6:27 pm

The old adage about it's easy for an average player to look good in a good team, than a good player to shine in a poor one, springs to mind !

Perhaps Jimmy Dunne or Shane Duffy would look extremely competent in our well drilled back four, alongside Ben Mee, with Pope shouting out instructions, and the covering bank of four in front of him .....

Just a thought !

superdimitri · Post by **superdimitri** » Fri Aug 14, 2020 5:19 am

When I've seen Dunne play his feet when on the ball is his weakest trait. He's your typical boot the ball up the line no nonsense centre half. Worse in that respect than Duff was.

I don't think he's premier league quality. I'd love to be proved wrong though.

ClaretMov · Post by **ClaretMov** » Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:27 am

huw.Y.WattfromWare wrote: ↑
Thu Aug 13, 2020 5:22 pm
Shane Duffy after our coaching could be a decent signing. Injuries apart nothing wrong with him athletically. He can be prone to decision making errors. We can help him there.

No thank's he's had one chance at Burnley before and didn't take it

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:36 am

superdimitri wrote: ↑
Fri Aug 14, 2020 5:19 am
When I've seen Dunne play his feet when on the ball is his weakest trait. He's your typical boot the ball up the line no nonsense centre half. Worse in that respect than Duff was.

I don't think he's premier league quality. I'd love to be proved wrong though.

Did very well in Scotland (Hearts 2018-19) and was highly thought of there. But his career seems to have stalled a bit. 5 loans in total.

BenWickes · Post by **BenWickes** » Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:42 am

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑
Thu Aug 13, 2020 6:11 pm
Imagine replacing Tarks with Duffy

If we're in for Duffy. I'd expect he's a back up. We're already one centre half short with Gibson on the way out. There's no way Duffy would dislodge the Mee/Tarks partnership. If Tarks was to go. I'd think we'd be after younger, better centre halves than Duffy.

rob63 · Post by **rob63** » Fri Aug 14, 2020 11:42 pm

Firthy wrote: ↑
Wed Aug 12, 2020 5:38 pm
9 pages and still no realistic links to a possible signing.

Maybe the thread should be titled "BFC Transfer News Autumn 2020(Must contain link)" Instead

LoveCurryPies · Post by **LoveCurryPies** » Fri Aug 14, 2020 11:47 pm

Will Norris. Welcome to Burnley!

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Fri Aug 14, 2020 11:48 pm

Just seen the (rather tenuous) link with Shane Duffy.

I'm just imagining him breaking the news to his Dad that he's signed for Burnley again.

ClaretAL · Post by **ClaretAL** » Sat Aug 15, 2020 9:58 am

Potential Pope to Chelsea took another step forward...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... lause.html

Les Lawrence · Post by **Les Lawrence** » Sat Aug 15, 2020 10:02 am

Duffy's dad died recently

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Sat Aug 15, 2020 10:03 am

Duffy would be great in our defence with the amount of protection they get. Getting blocks in and winning headers would suit him down to the ground. Out of interest if Tarky goes who exactly do people think we'll be going for? We won't use the European market or gamble on a younger lad so Duffy is about as good as we'll get.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Aug 15, 2020 10:06 am

ClaretAL wrote: ↑
Sat Aug 15, 2020 9:58 am
Potential Pope to Chelsea took another step forward...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... lause.html

They'll need to pay the money. £50 million and a 25% sell-on would be about right.

The thing I'm worried about is that they'll think, "Ah, it's only Burnley, they'll accept £25 million" - and we do!

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Sat Aug 15, 2020 10:10 am

Why do you think we would accept an offer less than we value him at?

BenWickes · Post by **BenWickes** » Sat Aug 15, 2020 10:10 am

Depends what you read, Football London; via the BBC: Chelsea's hopes of signing Atletico Madrid goalkeeper Jan Oblak, 27, have been boosted with the La Liga club reportedly keen to replace the Slovenia international.

Cubanclaret · Post by **Cubanclaret** » Sat Aug 15, 2020 3:47 pm

Problem Chelsea have is what to do with Kepa. He was a world record buy for a keeper two years ago and must be on a massive salary. If his reputation is good in Spain then maybe an exchange with Oblak is a possibility. Can’t see him being offloaded to Burnley or Ajax that’s for sure.

northernpowerhouse · Post by **northernpowerhouse** » Sat Aug 15, 2020 4:12 pm

According to Dean Jones on twitter:

Burnley starting to look at possible new goalkeeper options incase Nick Pope joins Chelsea. Jack Butland is one name of interest

https://twitter.com/DeanJonesBR/status/ ... 4482289664

Butland be a disaster of a signing. According to the average ratings on whoscored.com he's ranked 23 out of 24 Championship keepers this season. Past it.

Blackburn_Claret · Post by **Blackburn_Claret** » Sat Aug 15, 2020 4:20 pm

Sell Pope to Chelsea for £70 million and get Butland as Number 2 behind BPF who should be up to standard after a year with Mercer Pope and Hart. Also why haven't we looked at Jon Obi Mikel? On his way to Stoke?

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Aug 15, 2020 4:21 pm

northernpowerhouse wrote: ↑
Sat Aug 15, 2020 4:12 pm
Butland be a disaster of a signing. According to the average ratings on whoscored.com he's ranked 23 out of 24 Championship keepers this season. Past it.

You won't catch anybody with that one.

Tribesmen · Post by **Tribesmen** » Sat Aug 15, 2020 4:33 pm

Look Duffy is Taylor made for Burnley without a doubt , as Brighton want to play from the back or should i say Potter does and Duffy doesn't fit into that system . At Burnley he would be a fans fav no crap just hard get it up front and a massive plus when it comes to set plays .
When he go's us iot will be to a club who plays like we do .

PremierLeagueClass · Post by **PremierLeagueClass** » Sat Aug 15, 2020 4:33 pm

Butland would be an awful signing.

Blackburn_Claret · Post by **Blackburn_Claret** » Sat Aug 15, 2020 4:37 pm

PremierLeagueClass wrote: ↑
Sat Aug 15, 2020 4:33 pm
Butland would be an awful signing.

Why?

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Aug 15, 2020 4:44 pm

We happen to have a pretty good keeper coach. I'll trust him if we go in for a goalie.

People complained when we signed Heaton as he played for a team who went down.

BenWickes · Post by **BenWickes** » Sat Aug 15, 2020 4:47 pm

If Mercer said Butland would be the next King. I'd take his word for it. He knows his onions.

Hedontplayforyou · Post by **Hedontplayforyou** » Sat Aug 15, 2020 4:50 pm

Butland has had a few calamitous seasons , I think that’s what has led to the comments about him, however if we as a club and specifically Mercer can get the best out of him then he could fulfill that early potential. Would probably cost around £6-8m I’d guess.

warksclaret · Post by **warksclaret** » Sat Aug 15, 2020 4:54 pm

If Mercer can get Heaton who conceeded at least 100 goals for Bristol City, and Pope who was playing non League footbal a few years ago, both into the England team, then its frightening to think what he can do with Butland who has already played for England.

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Sat Aug 15, 2020 5:10 pm

warksclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Aug 15, 2020 4:54 pm
If Mercer can get Heaton who conceeded at least 100 goals for Bristol City, and Pope who was playing non League footbal a few years ago, both into the England team, then its frightening to think what he can do with Butland who has already played for England.

He didn't do much with Joe Hart.

Blackburn_Claret · Post by **Blackburn_Claret** » Sat Aug 15, 2020 5:19 pm

Tall Paul wrote: ↑
Sat Aug 15, 2020 5:10 pm
He didn't do much with Joe Hart.

Hart was too good thats why