BFC TRANSFER NEWS SUMMER/AUTUMN 2020 (MUST CONTAIN LINK)

[claretandy]

He's younger than Cork and only 6 months older than Westwood.

[arise_sir_charge]

Tom Davies is shite.

[jojomk1]

If he is available, could see him going to Leeds
Imagine the meltdown on here if we bid for him and that happened

[huw.Y.WattfromWare]

Guys, 30 is the new 25. The science behind football now means they are maintaining at a much higher standard for longer than they ever had. Delph at 31 would be a snip. Get this deal done.

[Duffer_]

Not sure what this means...

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[Bigvince]

A fit Delph would be a great signing for us, he has quality, and he’s not afraid of a tackle

[BenWickes]

Fwiw this would be an excellent. Tom Davies at Everton is utter bobbins, don’t want us going anywhere near him.

Agree. Not at all convinced by Davies. Interestingly. Everton want to get rid of Bernard. Doubtful we could afford him but he'd fit our style.

[Gordaleman]

If Burnley think Delph is a good signing, then I'm sure that other clubs will as well. That leaves the same old problem. Would he come, what would he cost?

I really think that's it's time to think of players outside of the UK. Keen to come to the EPL and would probably cost less, both in fees and wages. We didn't do too bad with Defour, did we? I'm sure that there are others like him out there somewhere. A bit of midfield class is what we are missing, whether that's an attacking midfielder or a defensive one.

[jrgbfc]

Versatile is Delph, he would cover both full back positions as well as all the midfield slots.

He's also extremely injury prone. It seems like we're attempting to put together the oldest squad in premier league history.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Interesting that we appeared to play 433 in one of the games yesterday.

could Delph be the signing that allows us to try that formation this season? Front six something like

Westwood Delph Brownhill
Gudmundsson Wood McNeil

[ayrshireclaret83]

Not sure what this means...

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To me this could be a number of things

1 Is almost done and he is laughing that be broke the story

2 it’s been rejected already and we have lo balled again

3 The is no real interest whether he was at it deliberately or got some misinformation

Personally probably 2 for me

[Bigvince]

Interesting that we appeared to play 433 in one of the games yesterday.

could Delph be the signing that allows us to try that formation this season? Front six something like

Westwood Delph Brownhill
Gudmundsson Wood McNeil

Would revert to 4-5-1 when defending

[Mattster]

Fwiw this would be an excellent. Tom Davies at Everton is utter bobbins, don’t want us going anywhere near him.

Nah. He was bobbins last season but he's not utter bobbins as a player. He's a young player who hasn't been consistently managed (how many different managers with different styles has he had in his short career?) and is a target for the fans at Everton which has damaged his confidence. A fresh start with a consistent approach and he'll become the player he promised to be when he broke through.

See a lot of parallels to Westwood when we signed him, Villa fans thought (still think) he was utter bobbins but he's become one of the better creative midfielders in the league because he's been developed by Dyche and he's not had fans on his back all the time which has built his confidence.

It's only because he's been mismanaged and has had a very poor season that he could potentially be in reach for a club like us.

[Hedontplayforyou]

Google images of Tom Davies dress Sense just to see why he wouldn’t fit in here

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

To me this could be a number of things

1 Is almost done and he is laughing that be broke the story

2 it’s been rejected already and we have lo balled again

3 The is no real interest whether he was at it deliberately or got some misinformation

Personally probably 2 for me

He’s just tweeted he was laughing at an Everton fans reply. Delph would be a good signing for us.

[Stevie Morgan]

To me this could be a number of things

1 Is almost done and he is laughing that be broke the story

2 it’s been rejected already and we have lo balled again

3 The is no real interest whether he was at it deliberately or got some misinformation

Personally probably 2 for me

He has explained it later in. Laughing at Everton fans suggestions of them paying us.

[Quickenthetempo]

Just been speaking with my Everton supporting dad and he says lots of talk at the Everton end we are interested in signing Fabien Delph.

Can't see it myself, but you never know.

From page 5. Monday August 3rd

[Hedontplayforyou]

Delph would be superb if fit, but it’s a massive IF. We can’t afford to have someone in his wages on the Pat n Mick for 2-3 years.

[Firthy]

I'm sure they'll be some "news" regarding us in tomorrow's paper...

Hope this is more than the Nixon tweet. Still waiting for this news

[Mattster]

Don't think anyone doubts Delph's ability but for a decent fee and sure to be at least our joint highest paid player is he worth it with his injury record?

He was only available for 45% of last season.

He only has 185 PL appearances at 30 years old. For comparison Tom Davies is 22 and has 105.

[warksclaret]

You have to trust the Burnley medical team on one. They will need to be thorough in their appraisal of his injuries and with the medical.The terms will be structured around appearances. In the year before signing Jay Rod we had exactly the same questions about his fitness

[claptrappers_union]

Delph has always been overrated in my opinion. But would do a job for us at Burnley... though won’t be value for money unless he keeps us in the Premier League.

Tom Davis is your no bells, no whistles type of player... probably under appreciated, a sensible signing with ‘Moneyball’ kind of approach and might excel under Dyche.

Additional: Davis is only 22... I thought he was closer to 27

[nyclaret]

Delph would be a fantastic signing if he manages to stay fit. As mentioned before, with Cork out for the foreseeable and Hendrick gone, it could prove to be a masterstroke.

[Mattster]

You have to trust the Burnley medical team on one. They will need to be thorough in their appraisal of his injuries and with the medical.The terms will be structured around appearances. In the year before signing Jay Rod we had exactly the same questions about his fitness

Given our recent track record with sicknotes I'd rather just not take the risks to be honest.

[claptrappers_union]

Given our recent track record with sicknotes I'd rather just not take the risks to be honest.

But this why they’re cheap...

[Mattster]

But this why they’re cheap...

There's no way Delph comes in as anything other than our joint highest paid player and that's him taking a big pay cut.

That's not cheap.

[Tall Paul]

Delph - too old move on

You want the moon on a stick.

[claptrappers_union]

Cheap was the wrong word. The point I am making is, the clubs with bigger budgets won’t risk injury-prone players.

Steven Defour wouldnt be anywhere near Turf Moor if he was fit. I bet a few clubs were weighing up it up, but Burnley were the club who to took the risk.

[jrgbfc]

For the money Delph would be on I'm not sure he'd be worth the risk with his injury record. Have we completely given up on having any kind of European scouting network?

[Newcastleclaret93]

Don't think anyone doubts Delph's ability but for a decent fee and sure to be at least our joint highest paid player is he worth it with his injury record?

He was only available for 45% of last season.

He only has 185 PL appearances at 30 years old. For comparison Tom Davies is 22 and has 105.

True but you have to compare where they have played.
Delph went to city to be a bit part player but from all accounts actually had a very successful stint. It hasn’t quite worked out at Everton but hopefully this is the move he needs to help push himself towards the England squad again

[jojomk1]

Tom Davis is your no bells, no whistles type of player... probably under appreciated, a sensible signing with ‘Moneyball’ kind of approach and might excel under Dyche.

Additional: Davis is only 22... I thought he was closer to 27

Agree

[SkiptonClaret]

Delph strikes me as another Lennon type signing. Career on a downward trajectory, injury prone. Lennon offered very poor value in terms of how often he played (and his performances on the whole) relative to his likely earnings. High probability that Delph would be similar. We desperately need to develop a scouting network that extends beyond old lads at Everton (or Stoke).

[TVC15]

Delph strikes me as another Lennon type signing. Career on a downward trajectory, injury prone. Lennon offered very poor value in terms of how often he played (and his performances on the whole) relative to his likely earnings. High probability that Delph would be similar. We desperately need to develop a scouting network that extends beyond old lads at Everton (or Stoke).

Our first team squad currently has players from
Charlton
Brentford
Man City
Leeds
Norwich
Brighton
Aston Villa
Swansea
Bristol City
West Brom

And Stoke.

We have had one player I think from Everton in goodness knows how many years.

It’s amazing trying to understand what some fans want. Fed up that we don’t sign or are linked with anyone - then when are...too old...from the wrong club....too young etc etc.

[Quickenthetempo]

We have had one player I think from Everton in goodness knows how many years.

The last two were overpaid ex England Internationals.

Gazza and Lennon.

They sold us Tony Grant so I'm not that mad with them.

[Ric_C]

Age isn't the issue here, it's the staying fit. Wasn't he in one of the England squads fairly recently? Can't believe people are turning up their noses at the possibility of signing him.

[MDWat]

Nah. He was bobbins last season but he's not utter bobbins as a player. He's a young player who hasn't been consistently managed (how many different managers with different styles has he had in his short career?) and is a target for the fans at Everton which has damaged his confidence. A fresh start with a consistent approach and he'll become the player he promised to be when he broke through.

See a lot of parallels to Westwood when we signed him, Villa fans thought (still think) he was utter bobbins but he's become one of the better creative midfielders in the league because he's been developed by Dyche and he's not had fans on his back all the time which has built his confidence.

It's only because he's been mismanaged and has had a very poor season that he could potentially be in reach for a club like us.

I really don’t agree. I have to confess that I haven’t seen him loads but whenever I have seen him, he’s offered nothing. Afraid the remainder of my argument comes from my 3 work colleagues who are Evertonians, all who would happily give him to us (think they’d pay us for him!). I’m not sure what type of midfield player he’s supposed to be but he’s wasteful in possession, he’s not a grafter. I just don’t see how he’d fit into our side at all.

Delph, on the other hand, is a grafter, he’d add balance being left sided and he’s hugely versatile. All big ticks in the Dyche box.

[ClaretTony]

Fwiw this would be an excellent. Tom Davies at Everton is utter bobbins, don’t want us going anywhere near him.

Far be it for me to agree with MDWat but I have to regards Davies

[Bigvince]

True but you have to compare where they have played.
Delph went to city to be a bit part player but from all accounts actually had a very successful stint. It hasn’t quite worked out at Everton but hopefully this is the move he needs to help push himself towards the England squad again

Most posters on here are suggesting players need to move away from Burnley, to get in the England squad. You think Delph needs to do the opposite

[randomclaret2]

We signed Tony Grant from Man City

[bodge]

MD Wat has it right here, a left sided midfielder who ticks the Dyche requirements. It may well be a case of our bonus arrangements coming into play to provide the right financial package for the deal.

You can see him fitting in at our place and like all signings there is an element of luck involved regarding his availability due to injuries/niggles.

I would like to hear Claretspice's views here, he unfortunately doesn't seem to have posted for a while, hope he's ok.

[TVC15]

The last two were overpaid ex England Internationals.

Gazza and Lennon.

They sold us Tony Grant so I'm not that mad with them.

Yep as I said one player from Everton in nearly 20 years - and someone is complaining that we need to widen our scouting network beyond Everton and Stoke !

[mdd2]

Delph has only played 75 more Prem Games than Tom Davies which is all one needs to say about the two, one aged just 22 and the other nearly 31.
Everton will not sell Davies as he has much more to give than Delph IMO

[Tall Paul]

Delph has only played 7 more Prem Games than Tom Davies which is all one needs to say about the two, one aged just 22 and the other nearly 31.
Everton will not sell Davies as he has much more to give than Delph IMO

Seven? Or 75?

[Quickenthetempo]

We signed Tony Grant from Man City

Yes we did. Memory blip there.

[DCWat]

MD Wat has it right here, a left sided midfielder who ticks the Dyche requirements. It may well be a case of our bonus arrangements coming into play to provide the right financial package for the deal.

You can see him fitting in at our place and like all signings there is an element of luck involved regarding his availability due to injuries/niggles.

I would like to hear Claretspice's views here, he unfortunately doesn't seem to have posted for a while, hope he's ok.

I enjoyed reading ClaretSpice’s perspective on transfers. Hopefully he’ll be back on soon.

[Mattster]

Cheap was the wrong word. The point I am making is, the clubs with bigger budgets won’t risk injury-prone players.

Steven Defour wouldnt be anywhere near Turf Moor if he was fit. I bet a few clubs were weighing up it up, but Burnley were the club who to took the risk.

As much as we all loved Defour he's not a great example. For £8m fee and £5m+ wages we got 2 half seasons in 3 and a half years.

[warksclaret]

You can see the reluctance of certain posters on here to go for Delph. I could understand that if our recruitment in general was at least as good as average PL sides in this area. However based on the last 2-3 years we are probably bottom or thereabouts in the PL recruitment rankings

Not long ago he was "captain material" for England and Man City.We have some great players but not many vocal leaders on the pitch, and not had so since Joey left. This guy could fill the role Joey left, which no other Burnley player has been able to do in the last few years.He would be a great signing (subject to meeting stringent medicals from our club). Also what BFC needs in view of its small squad is versatility and I suspect this guy could slot into 3-4 positions at least. Would make my week if it came off

[claptrappers_union]

As much as we all loved Defour he's not a great example. For £8m fee and £5m+ wages we got 2 half seasons in 3 and a half years.

Your missing my point, I’m saying if Burnley want to sign high calibre players - basically they have risk ‘damaged goods’... which isn’t a bad thing, if it works out ok.

[Mattster]

I really don’t agree. I have to confess that I haven’t seen him loads but whenever I have seen him, he’s offered nothing. Afraid the remainder of my argument comes from my 3 work colleagues who are Evertonians, all who would happily give him to us (think they’d pay us for him!). I’m not sure what type of midfield player he’s supposed to be but he’s wasteful in possession, he’s not a grafter. I just don’t see how he’d fit into our side at all.

Delph, on the other hand, is a grafter, he’d add balance being left sided and he’s hugely versatile. All big ticks in the Dyche box.

Ask them about Delph, they'll say the same.

I've watched Davies plenty, there's a good player there that's had his confidence shot. I'd just prefer to go for something longer term and with resale potential.

To be honest neither would be my first choice. Would much prefer Will Hughes.

[Chester Perry]

We have an occasional poster on this board who is an Evertonian - he would be delighted for anyone to take Delph off their hands but believes his wages are very prohibitive to that actually happening. Also thinks that Tom Davies has not pushed on from his early promise.