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Post by Row Z » Tue Sep 08, 2020 2:07 pm

Gordaleman wrote:
Tue Sep 08, 2020 2:05 pm
Watch and learn. I'll bet we do this time.
Liking the optimism and am hopeful you are correct!

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Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Tue Sep 08, 2020 2:12 pm

Ollie Watkins on his way to Villa 28m with potential add-ons taking it up to 33m

meltdown 492 on its way

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Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Sep 08, 2020 2:25 pm

Villa going for the "sign everybody" approach

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Post by Rileybobs » Tue Sep 08, 2020 2:28 pm

Reading this thread it’s easy to spot the people who went to the supermarket to panic buy toilet roll and tinned food a few months ago.
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Post by KefkaClaret » Tue Sep 08, 2020 2:33 pm

Maybe it's time we actually utilize loans. Everton are loaning Tomori from Chelsea.

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Post by warksclaret » Tue Sep 08, 2020 2:58 pm

Great bit of business for both Everton and Chelsea. Just the type of player to have in your squad-and getting first team experience for Frank too

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Post by Row Z » Tue Sep 08, 2020 2:59 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Tue Sep 08, 2020 2:12 pm
Ollie Watkins on his way to Villa 28m with potential add-ons taking it up to 33m

meltdown 492 on its way
That sounds like Villa having a meltdown after missing out on Wilson.

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Post by ewanrob » Tue Sep 08, 2020 3:33 pm

A hell of a lot of money for an unproven player in this league

And given what Sean says here....crikey we are in for a tough few weeks

"I think it's unlikely you're going to get bargain basement buys, nor should we be looking at that area, we've got to be looking at players who can at least challenge our group with immediate effect, and either mature into the side or go into it because they're very good players.

"That's the market we're attempting to look in, obviously the finances will give us parameters that can only go so far."

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Post by Gordaleman » Tue Sep 08, 2020 3:39 pm

ewanrob wrote:
Tue Sep 08, 2020 3:33 pm
A hell of a lot of money for an unproven player in this league

And given what Sean says here....crikey we are in for a tough few weeks

"I think it's unlikely you're going to get bargain basement buys, nor should we be looking at that area, we've got to be looking at players who can at least challenge our group with immediate effect, and either mature into the side or go into it because they're very good players.

"That's the market we're attempting to look in, obviously the finances will give us parameters that can only go so far."
Those last two paragraphs are points well made. Maybe we will surprise the doubters on here and buy a bit of class? I do hope so, it might shut one or two whingers up.

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Post by kenyon6923 » Tue Sep 08, 2020 3:40 pm

33m for Watkins but only 20m for wilson - wow

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Post by Burnleyareback2 » Tue Sep 08, 2020 3:58 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Tue Sep 08, 2020 2:28 pm
Reading this thread it’s easy to spot the people who went to the supermarket to panic buy toilet roll and tinned food a few months ago.
The sooner this window closes and we can move onto the annual thread demanding a 50,000 seater stadium the better!
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Post by randomclaret2 » Tue Sep 08, 2020 4:03 pm

If I was a Newcastle fan Id be worried about the age of the squad with the new signings Wilson and Fraser
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Post by Zlatan » Tue Sep 08, 2020 4:03 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Tue Sep 08, 2020 2:28 pm
Reading this thread it’s easy to spot the people who went to the supermarket to panic buy toilet roll and tinned food a few months ago.
I’m still using my emergency supplies... ;)

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Post by TVC15 » Tue Sep 08, 2020 4:12 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:
Tue Sep 08, 2020 4:03 pm
If I was a Newcastle fan Id be worried about the age of the squad with the new signings Wilson and Fraser
Not to mention the £10m in wages per year.
Let’s hope they perform better than they did last season eh

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Post by AshevilleNCClaret » Tue Sep 08, 2020 4:38 pm

TVC15 wrote:
Tue Sep 08, 2020 4:12 pm
Not to mention the £10m in wages per year.
Let’s hope they perform better than they did last season eh
Not sure if you are joking, but Callum is 28 and Fraser is 26.

I agree that their wages are probably astronomical.

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Post by jrgbfc » Tue Sep 08, 2020 4:46 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:
Tue Sep 08, 2020 4:03 pm
If I was a Newcastle fan Id be worried about the age of the squad with the new signings Wilson and Fraser
I'm more bothered about the age of our squad tbh. In 2 or 3 years time we could have a hell of a rebuilding job, probably with a new manager.
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Post by tiger76 » Tue Sep 08, 2020 4:51 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:
Tue Sep 08, 2020 4:03 pm
If I was a Newcastle fan Id be worried about the age of the squad with the new signings Wilson and Fraser
They just need to sign Godfrey from Norwich, Jones from Man Utd, Walker from Spurs and they've got almost half of the cast. :lol:
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Post by Bigvince » Tue Sep 08, 2020 5:16 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Tue Sep 08, 2020 4:51 pm
They just need to sign Godfrey from Norwich, Jones from Man Utd, Walker from Spurs and they've got almost half of the cast. :lol:
There was a Matty Mainwaring used to play for Stockport.dont know if he was captain tho, maybe they could sign him

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Post by ewanrob » Tue Sep 08, 2020 5:20 pm

Gordaleman wrote:
Tue Sep 08, 2020 3:39 pm
Those last two paragraphs are points well made. Maybe we will surprise the doubters on here and buy a bit of class? I do hope so, it might shut one or two whingers up.
You need whingers on a MB, it's what sparks debate.

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Post by FactualFrank » Tue Sep 08, 2020 5:24 pm

ewanrob wrote:
Tue Sep 08, 2020 5:20 pm
You need whingers on a MB, it's what sparks debate.
We've one or two hundred of them though.
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Post by TVC15 » Tue Sep 08, 2020 5:56 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Tue Sep 08, 2020 4:51 pm
They just need to sign Godfrey from Norwich, Jones from Man Utd, Walker from Spurs and they've got almost half of the cast. :lol:
How about getting the old West Ham player Pike for the bench - could he do a job ?

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Post by bodge » Tue Sep 08, 2020 6:02 pm

Stupid boy.
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Post by huw.Y.WattfromWare » Tue Sep 08, 2020 6:08 pm

Just googled Diallo and Arsenal released him in ‘18 and he went to Stoke. Some pages have him as a defender, some as midfielder. Very confusing.

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Post by claretandy » Tue Sep 08, 2020 6:30 pm

huw.Y.WattfromWare wrote:
Tue Sep 08, 2020 6:08 pm
Just googled Diallo and Arsenal released him in ‘18 and he went to Stoke. Some pages have him as a defender, some as midfielder. Very confusing.
I think that was his brother.

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Post by CnBtruntru » Tue Sep 08, 2020 6:54 pm

TVC15 wrote:
Tue Sep 08, 2020 4:12 pm
Not to mention the £10m in wages per year.
Let’s hope they perform better than they did last season eh
Err let's hope not ;)
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Post by CFS » Tue Sep 08, 2020 7:04 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:
Tue Sep 08, 2020 4:03 pm
If I was a Newcastle fan Id be worried about the age of the squad with the new signings Wilson and Fraser
If I was bur key if be jealous of the pace in the Newcastle team.

Fraser
Wilson
Almiron
Yedlin
Atsu
Saint maximan

Oh yeah and hendrickS

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Post by NewClaret » Tue Sep 08, 2020 7:44 pm

Gordaleman wrote:
Tue Sep 08, 2020 3:39 pm
Those last two paragraphs are points well made. Maybe we will surprise the doubters on here and buy a bit of class? I do hope so, it might shut one or two whingers up.
Not sure I’d want Ollie Watkins at £33m. Thought he scored a lot of opportunistic goals last season that won’t exist in the PL. Might be proved wrong but think Villa may have been done there.

I am nervous now - particularly since it looks like Tarks is off & last years injuries haven’t cleared up. Had hoped we’d have learnt lessons from previous years and got at least one or two in early. Every chance selling clubs will pull our pants down as they know we need numbers/are desperate. Hoping the club bring in one or two of real quality to improve the first team. Three or Four if Tarky goes.

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Post by Safron » Tue Sep 08, 2020 8:01 pm

. Hoping the club bring in one or two of real quality to improve the first team. Three or Four if Tarky goes.
Don't get your hopes up or you will be very disappointed 😭

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Post by Gordaleman » Tue Sep 08, 2020 8:07 pm

Safron wrote:
Tue Sep 08, 2020 8:01 pm
. Hoping the club bring in one or two of real quality to improve the first team. Three or Four if Tarky goes.
Don't get your hopes up or you will be very disappointed 😭
Have you got priveledged access to our board then? I don't know why you'd say that otherwise.

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Post by Safron » Tue Sep 08, 2020 8:53 pm

Up to FOUR quality players have you gone mad!! You don't need privileged access to know THAT ain't ever going to happen.

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Post by Gordaleman » Tue Sep 08, 2020 9:05 pm

Safron wrote:
Tue Sep 08, 2020 8:53 pm
Up to FOUR quality players have you gone mad!! You don't need privileged access to know THAT ain't ever going to happen.
No, I'm not mad. I'm just fed up of being told that Tarky has gone when he hasn't and that the board don't know what they are doing.

Presumably, if we do sell one of out better pl;ayers, then Sean would be given the funds and maybe more to bring players in? That could equate to two or three decent players at least?

Don't complain until there's something to complain about. Do you complain about a meal in a restaurant, before it's been brought to the table? Maybe you do?
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Post by jurek » Tue Sep 08, 2020 9:09 pm

We need AT LEAST two, possibly 3 or more if Tarks goes.
Dyche has said they need to be up to it and challenging to start
so presume he wants PL experience.
But we're nowhere near apparently.

And we will start the season without Mee, Cork and Barnes.
Dyche has also said we don't have a budget.
It all sounds a bit worrying to be honest.

Is Garlick sat on his hands and hoping we start
the season as we finished off last season?

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Post by Gordaleman » Tue Sep 08, 2020 9:12 pm

jurek wrote:
Tue Sep 08, 2020 9:09 pm
We need AT LEAST two, possibly 3 or more if Tarks goes.
Dyche has said they need to be up to it and challenging to start
so presume he wants PL experience.
But we're nowhere near apparently.

And we will start the season without Mee, Cork and Barnes.
Dyche has also said we don't have a budget.
It all sounds a bit worrying to be honest.

Is Garlick sat on his hands and hoping we start
the season as we finished off last season?
I guess you don't follow the club very closely. Sean NEVER has a budget, but he's still brought decent players into the club in the past, and he will do again.

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Post by jurek » Tue Sep 08, 2020 9:55 pm

Let's hope he does but do wonder how it actually works?

Does Dyche tell Rigg and recruitment team what players/positions he thinks
the team need and then they go out and identify one or two possibles.
Does Dyche let them know if there's anyone he really likes/wants?

And then do they approach the Chairman with their top targets
and the first question he asks is guess what?
How much are they worth or would be willing to offer?

And then the Chairman works out how much we will need to keep our
heads above water over the coming season (with reduced revenues?)

And then what?

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Post by DycheAlmighty » Tue Sep 08, 2020 10:04 pm

There just ain't enough positives to take from the sale of Tarkowski. Clubs would be aware we have funds, we can't possibly upgrade him with a better player in that position and we'd enter the new season with a completely different centre back pairing (no Mee). Best case scenario nobody matches his valuation, and Dyche manages to work his magic on another 2 Brownhill like buys (preferably a RW and backup CB) from the championship.

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Post by jojomk1 » Tue Sep 08, 2020 10:09 pm

jrgbfc wrote:
Tue Sep 08, 2020 4:46 pm
I'm more bothered about the age of our squad tbh. In 2 or 3 years time we could have a hell of a rebuilding job, probably with a new manager.
We've got a rebuilding job to do next summer with 7 players out of contract !!!!

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Post by DCWat » Tue Sep 08, 2020 11:04 pm

jojomk1 wrote:
Tue Sep 08, 2020 10:09 pm
We've got a rebuilding job to do next summer with 7 players out of contract !!!!
Ah that’s what the problem is, we’re focusing on signings for July ‘21.

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Post by superdimitri » Wed Sep 09, 2020 4:27 am

The way I read it was unless the fee is small then it's up to Garlick/Hart how much he spends. Dyche probably doesn't have input beyond initial target discussion with Rigg. When it comes to transfer fees, bids and wages it's down Rigg.

If Rigg was director of football rather than technical director he'd be the one deciding on the targets, but for us, the buck ends with Dyche. If Rigg agrees to a target with Dyche then he'll start by applying his custom football manager filter (age 30+, every position apart from CB) and search away. Once he's sorted wages bottom to top he'll start his process of opening Gmail and sending out penny pinching mails to everyone he knows in the business. This process can often take months or years.

At the end of the window Rigg gets one or two replies from agents or clubs regarding other deals that didn't go through and we settle for about our 5th or 6th target.. if we're lucky target(s). Then if we're lucky at the last minute Rigg will be approached by some disgruntled agent from a has been offering a free transfer or loan. If they fit the bill he can sign those and make it seem like he does do something after all.

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Post by Burnleyareback2 » Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:34 am

superdimitri wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 4:27 am
The way I read it was unless the fee is small then it's up to Garlick/Hart how much he spends. Dyche probably doesn't have input beyond initial target discussion with Rigg. When it comes to transfer fees, bids and wages it's down Rigg.

If Rigg was director of football rather than technical director he'd be the one deciding on the targets, but for us, the buck ends with Dyche. If Rigg agrees to a target with Dyche then he'll start by applying his custom football manager filter (age 30+, every position apart from CB) and search away. Once he's sorted wages bottom to top he'll start his process of opening Gmail and sending out penny pinching mails to everyone he knows in the business. This process can often take months or years.

At the end of the window Rigg gets one or two replies from agents or clubs regarding other deals that didn't go through and we settle for about our 5th or 6th target.. if we're lucky target(s). Then if we're lucky at the last minute Rigg will be approached by some disgruntled agent from a has been offering a free transfer or loan. If they fit the bill he can sign those and make it seem like he does do something after all.
Probably best that you avoid trying to read into things.
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Post by CombatClaret » Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:36 am

Just re-read the 2018 DM article containing the prophetic statement which always provides me with a certain comfort and a reminder to enjoy the good times and not worry to much about transfer windows.
"With the spending power of others — and not just those inside the top six — Burnley cannot outrun their circumstances forever."
Also includes
This time next year, would you place a bet of significance on Bournemouth or Watford — the success stories of 2018-19 so far — not being in the bottom three?
Prophetic indeed.
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Post by huw.Y.WattfromWare » Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:08 am

CombatClaret wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:36 am
This time next year, would you place a bet of significance on Bournemouth or Watford — the success stories of 2018-19 so far — not being in the bottom three?
Prophetic indeed.
With losing Howe, Wilson, Fraser, Ramsdale and bids flying in for King & Brooks I’m thinking of having a punt on B’mouth going straight through to Lg.1.

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Post by superdimitri » Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:09 am

Burnleyareback2 wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:34 am
Probably best that you avoid trying to read into things.
If you don’t laugh, you’ll cry.

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Post by Burnleyareback2 » Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:18 am

huw.Y.WattfromWare wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:08 am
With losing Howe, Wilson, Fraser, Ramsdale and bids flying in for King & Brooks I’m thinking of having a punt on B’mouth going straight through to Lg.1.
I got 22-1 yesterday
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Post by Row Z » Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:27 am

Article on sky sports news that Bright Osayi-Samuel is stalling on a new QPR contract.

It states that QPR took up the option to extend his contract by 12 months before lockdown, although he can still leave now for less than £5million - or become a free agent next summer.

Seems the right age (22), the right market (Championship), the right position (winger), the right price (£5m) and the right attributes (PACE!).

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Post by BenWickes » Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:31 am

Row Z wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:27 am
Article on sky sports news that Bright Osayi-Samuel is stalling on a new QPR contract.

It states that QPR took up the option to extend his contract by 12 months before lockdown, although he can still leave now for less than £5million - or become a free agent next summer.

Seems the right age (22), the right market (Championship), the right position (winger), the right price (£5m) and the right attributes (PACE!).
Certainly ticks all the boxes. Question is. Does he tick Sean's and Mike's?

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Post by Spike » Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:33 am

Vegas Claret wrote:
Tue Sep 08, 2020 2:25 pm
Villa going for the "sign everybody" approach
Again!

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Post by jojomk1 » Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:44 am

Row Z wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:27 am
Article on sky sports news that Bright Osayi-Samuel is stalling on a new QPR contract.

It states that QPR took up the option to extend his contract by 12 months before lockdown, although he can still leave now for less than £5million - or become a free agent next summer.

Seems the right age (22), the right market (Championship), the right position (winger), the right price (£5m) and the right attributes (PACE!).
His preference is for Palace according to SSN

The thought of Burnley or London - hmmmmm

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Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS SUMMER 2020(MUST CONTAIN LINK)

Post by Flying Without Ings » Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:49 am

jojomk1 wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:44 am
His preference is for Palace according to SSN

The thought of Burnley or London - hmmmmm
London is a hellhole

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Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS SUMMER 2020(MUST CONTAIN LINK)

Post by fatboy47 » Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:52 am

Row Z wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:27 am
Article on sky sports news that Bright Osayi-Samuel is stalling on a new QPR contract.

It states that QPR took up the option to extend his contract by 12 months before lockdown, although he can still leave now for less than £5million - or become a free agent next summer.

Seems the right age (22), the right market (Championship), the right position (winger), the right price (£5m) and the right attributes (PACE!).

Never seen him do owt that Lennon couldn't do.

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Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS SUMMER 2020(MUST CONTAIN LINK)

Post by Wembley09 » Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:18 am

Seen this article on Google yesterday

"Dwight McNeil has attracted interest from 2 premier league clubs this summer, Leicester City and Wolves. Both clubs would like the player, however Leicester are the first club to be in contact with Burnley over the player"

Reporting on Leicester forums that they've actually now put a bid of £30 million to Burnley, apparently a reliable Leicester source tweeted it. Also expected to prompt Wolves to jump in. Hope this isn't true, but a bidding war wouldn't be too bad for us I guess.

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