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Post by Gordaleman » Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:10 am

claretlegend wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:07 am
Brighton fans seem to think the Dale Stephens to Burnley transfer is happening.
Well, he's turned us down at least once previously. Not sure he'd be exactly motivated.

Sure we can do better.

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Post by Pearcey » Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:11 am

claretlegend wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:07 am
Brighton fans seem to think the Dale Stephens to Burnley transfer is happening.
Makes sense this signing at the moment. Josh Brownhill could play on the right with Stephens in the centre.

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Post by Silkyskills1 » Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:16 am

Would make more sense to sign a right sided player instead of shifting players around to 'fill-in'. Brownhill wasn't signed to play on the right wing.
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Post by Pearcey » Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:18 am

Silkyskills1 wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:16 am
Would make more sense to sign a right sided player instead of shifting players around to 'fill-in'. Brownhill wasn't signed to play on the right wing.
Hence why I said at the moment. If it’s a cheap deal then it makes sense and Stephens is a good player.

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Post by mdd2 » Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:20 am

Gordaleman wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 10:41 am
We currently have six of our normal first team squad out injured. Barnes, Mee, Cork, Tarky?, Gudders and Brady. Are you seriously suggesting that we bring in 500k - £1 million signings just to cover whilst the Injured players become fit again? Because I'll tell you one thing, players of that standard would never play again once the main players are fit. All they would do is collect a big wage every week. Not exactly sensible financial planning.

Far better, IMHO to wait to see what happens in the window. If Tarky, or A N Other leaves, then we can probably bring in two or three very decent players instead and with a fully fit squad we might soon look like a very good team again.

Let's wait until the window closes before we get too despondent eh?
I don't think you can wait for 6 casualties to get fit with such a small squad. One reason for Bmouth's demise was their long list of injuries despite a biggish squad. Our numbers if all fit is presently only 20 with three keepers who would have to be named in the 25, McNeill is still under 21 so is a freebie as is Benson and the entire under 23 squad; if being under 21 on Jan 1st 2020 is what counts to play but not be named in the 25
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Post by matttheclaret » Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:21 am

Andy Naylor tweeting about it now.

Anything he says about Brighton, can be taken as gospel

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Post by Grumps » Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:33 am

Gordaleman wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:10 am
Well, he's turned us down at least once previously. Not sure he'd be exactly motivated.

Sure we can do better.
Did he not put in a transfer request to try and force through a move to us?

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Post by SGr » Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:34 am

Naylor confirms Stephens bid. Desperate quick fix is what this is. But it’d be better than nothing.

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Post by Grumps » Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:34 am

matttheclaret wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:21 am
Andy Naylor tweeting about it now.

Anything he says about Brighton, can be taken as gospel
Our local journos on the ball again :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Post by Gordaleman » Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:35 am

Grumps wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:33 am
Did he not put in a transfer request to try and force through a move to us?
If he did, then I'm not aware of it. Of course, that doesn't mean it didn't happen.

Anyway, I think that we could do better and probably will.

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Post by burnleymik » Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:36 am

No idea of validity..
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Post by DCWat » Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:41 am

Unless it’s for money, I’d be holding on for a better move that the basket case that is West Ham.

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Post by claretandy » Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:42 am

So we've missed out on targets A,B,C,D,E and F, what letter is Stephens ?

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Post by RVclaret » Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:43 am

Welcome to the over 30s club, Dale!

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Post by Red Fox Rocks Socks » Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:44 am

Just driven past the turf and they are taking down the away fanzone gazebo so that’ll hopefully save a few quid on hiring it. Might get someone in with that money
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Post by NewClaret » Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:45 am

Some rumours on their board it’s for £750k. In terms of adding numbers that probably makes sense. Very worrying if it is intended to play regularly in the first team.

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Post by Gordaleman » Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:45 am

DCWat wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:41 am
Unless it’s for money, I’d be holding on for a better move that the basket case that is West Ham.
He could be made to look very silly at Wet Spam. He won't have defenders like he has here to help out. That won't do his England prospects any good.
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Post by NewClaret » Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:46 am

burnleymik wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:36 am
No idea of validity..

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Still a no for me! 27.5% sell on clause makes it very little in terms of cash available to replace. Plus he deserves better.

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Post by wilks_bfc » Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:48 am

NewClaret wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:45 am
Some rumours on their board it’s for £750k. In terms of adding numbers that probably makes sense. Very worrying if it is intended to play regularly in the first team.
What is £750k?

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Post by Grumps » Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:50 am

Gordaleman wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:35 am
If he did, then I'm not aware of it. Of course, that doesn't mean it didn't happen.

Anyway, I think that we could do better and probably will.
It was news at the time

https://www.theargus.co.uk/sport/147290 ... ckle-down/

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Post by NewClaret » Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:50 am

wilks_bfc wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:48 am
What is £750k?
Our bid for Stephens. Rumours from the BHA board.

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Post by BabylonClaret » Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:52 am

NewClaret wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:46 am
Still a no for me! 27.5% sell on clause makes it very little in terms of cash available to replace. Plus he deserves better.
But the sell on clause means even if he left for 50 we'd only get 7m more. Bottom line here is that 40m is probably as close as we will get to the 50 I think that will tip it if a) its true and b) he's up for the move (which i assume he is otherwise why are West Ham still coming back?)

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Post by Gordaleman » Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:53 am

Grumps wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:50 am
It was news at the time

https://www.theargus.co.uk/sport/147290 ... ckle-down/
Fair enough, but do we really need another older player with no sell on value? Surely we can do better?

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Post by BabylonClaret » Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:53 am

NewClaret wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:46 am
Still a no for me! 27.5% sell on clause makes it very little in terms of cash available to replace. Plus he deserves better.
But the sell on clause means even if he left for 50 we'd only get 7m more. Bottom line here is that 40m is probably as close as we will get to the 50 I think that will tip it if a) its true and b) he's up for the move (which i assume he is otherwise why are West Ham still coming back?)

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Post by SGr » Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:54 am

Silkyskills1 wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:16 am
Brownhill wasn't signed to play on the right wing.
Sadly, if Stephens comes in then that’ll probably be the case.

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Post by RVclaret » Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:56 am

Stephens in for under £1m. Brownhill to the right. Saves money on signing a right winger. Proper business.
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Post by summitclaret » Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:57 am

Gordaleman wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:53 am
Fair enough, but do we really need another older player with no sell on value? Surely we can do better?
West Ham are a relegation rival. We would be mad to sell JT to them. Still we might get an extra £5m if we went down instead of them. 😃

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Post by Marney&Mee » Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:59 am

Stephens would be a great signing. Remember how underwhelmed some were with Westwood.

We'll be fine and dandy this season

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Post by claretlegend » Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:04 pm

Boden said its a case of when not if on Stephens.

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Post by Woonderbah » Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:05 pm

I'd like to see Benson and Glennon given 90mins against Millwall.. think they deserve the chance to stake a claim in the regular squad

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Post by Grumps » Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:05 pm

Gordaleman wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:53 am
Fair enough, but do we really need another older player with no sell on value? Surely we can do better?
If signed for under 1m, sell on value is irrelevant. Iam sure we could do better, but needs must in these uncertain times, plus he's a player dyche likes.
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Post by Vegas Claret » Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:07 pm

if getting Stephens in for 750K, who should play as the low block free's up Brownhill to be more attacking then I'm ok with it, if it free's up more cash to actually buy a winger then I'm even more for it. If he turns out to be our only signing then it's time for Garlick to move on

Last guy we got from Brighton hasn't done badly for us

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Post by BOYSIE31 » Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:08 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:56 am
Stephens in for under £1m. Brownhill to the right. Saves money on signing a right winger. Proper business.
No and No for me - round pegs in square holes

We need a proper out and out winger with pace.
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Post by Mattster » Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:11 pm

Grumps wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:05 pm
If signed for under 1m, sell on value is irrelevant. Iam sure we could do better, but needs must in these uncertain times, plus he's a player dyche likes.
Not really because you've still got wages to take into account. Experienced PL midfielder, he'll be £30k a week at least at Brighton so it'd similar here for at least a 2 year deal.

Just drains more money for a squad player that won't get ahead of Westwood/Brownhill barring injury and won't pay it back in any future fees

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Post by summitclaret » Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:12 pm

Woonderbah wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:05 pm
I'd like to see Benson and Glennon given 90mins against Millwall.. think they deserve the chance to stake a claim in the regular squad
I'd like to see none of our first team play against Millwall. We need to get out asap. Less games, less injuries and less suspensions.

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Post by claretandy » Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:13 pm

claretlegend wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:04 pm
Boden said its a case of when not if on Stephens.
He will have got that from Andy Naylor.

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Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:14 pm

Well it is a form of progression.

We need signings
We need signings
We need signings....

Oh not this signing

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Post by summitclaret » Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:15 pm

Mattster wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:11 pm
Not really because you've still got wages to take into account. Experienced PL midfielder, he'll be £30k a week at least at Brighton so it'd similar here for at least a 2 year deal.

Just drains more money for a squad player that won't get ahead of Westwood/Brownhill barring injury and won't pay it back in any future fees
Sorry disagree. If he is 4th choice behind Cork, Westy and Josh, £30k a week for a 2 year deal with a relegation clause is fine. Provided we sign a proper right winger that can get us excited a bit etc.

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Post by claptrappers_union » Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:16 pm

If the tweet is accurate, that looks like Tarkowski is West Ham bound, £35m is what the club have been holding out for, so I'm told.

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Post by Vegas Claret » Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:19 pm

summitclaret wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:15 pm
Sorry disagree. If he is 4th choice behind Cork, Westy and Josh, £30k a week for a 2 year deal with a relegation clause is fine. Provided we sign a proper right winger that can get us excited a bit etc.
if he's fit I would expect him to play at the weekend and push Brownhill out to the wing

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Post by jedi_master » Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:20 pm

I don’t really get the negativity on this.

He’s a proven Premier League player who Dyche clearly rates and who can make an immediate contribution to our team, at what amounts to a very limited cost (when we’re clearly low on funds).

I’d far rather this than a youngster from the league below who wouldn’t get a game, or a loan like Chalobah who won’t get a game. Sensible business in our circumstances. With our squad problems this season is about staying up, he will help us do that.
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Post by Mattster » Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:20 pm

summitclaret wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:15 pm
Sorry disagree. If he is 4th choice behind Cork, Westy and Josh, £30k a week for a 2 year deal with a relegation clause is fine. Provided we sign a proper right winger that can get us excited a bit etc.
My concern is that ~£30K a week takes money out of the pot to sign a proper right winger.

And it's money we'll never recoup. So in two season's time we'll be in exactly the same place, needing more bodies but barely any money to do that with so we sign another ageing stopgap for a not insignificant chunk of our budget meaning less money to spend on improving the team and on and on it goes. Need to be thinking more long term.

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Post by Grumps » Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:21 pm

Mattster wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:11 pm
Not really because you've still got wages to take into account. Experienced PL midfielder, he'll be £30k a week at least at Brighton so it'd similar here for at least a 2 year deal.

Just drains more money for a squad player that won't get ahead of Westwood/Brownhill barring injury and won't pay it back in any future fees
But its back up we need, if either of the two you mention got injured then yes I'd like him to be available
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Post by ClaretTony » Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:21 pm

On the Stephens story, it has come from Andy Naylor and he knows what’s going on at Brighton as well as anyone. I would take it as read virtually if he says it’s happening.

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Post by summitclaret » Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:21 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:19 pm
if he's fit I would expect him to play at the weekend and push Brownhill out to the wing
Yes and it's worth £1m if that gets us 3 points and he never plays again. That's how mad it's got.

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Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:22 pm

Mattster wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:20 pm
My concern is that ~£30K a week takes money out of the pot to sign a proper right winger.

And it's money we'll never recoup. So in two season's time we'll be in exactly the same place, needing more bodies but barely any money to do that with so we sign another ageing stopgap for a not insignificant chunk of our budget meaning less money to spend on improving the team and on and on it goes. Need to be thinking more long term.

You could argue there is more in the pot with the wages of Lennon, Hart, Hendrick etc having left to use.
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Post by Darthlaw » Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:23 pm

On that Brighton messageboard someone else posted a link to, it seemed the BHA fans in the main only had good things to say about Stephens. Makes a change to the usual 'he's crap because he's leaving' narrative.

For me, a PL standard midfielder for less than a million is an absolute steal.
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Post by NewClaret » Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:23 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:21 pm
On the Stephens story, it has come from Andy Naylor and he knows what’s going on at Brighton as well as anyone. I would take it as read virtually if he says it’s happening.
Get your article written, CT!

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Post by Spijed » Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:23 pm

Mattster wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:20 pm
My concern is that ~£30K a week takes money out of the pot to sign a proper right winger.

And it's money we'll never recoup. So in two season's time we'll be in exactly the same place, needing more bodies but barely any money to do that with so we sign another ageing stopgap for a not insignificant chunk of our budget meaning less money to spend on improving the team and on and on it goes. Need to be thinking more long term.
On the plus side, if he's a player Dyche has wanted before you know he's likely to fit very well into our system, rather than a player who's more of an unknown.

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Post by Mattster » Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:24 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:22 pm
You could argue there is more in the pot with the wages of Lennon, Hart, Hendrick etc having left to use.
Yeah, so why tie it up in another player in the vein of Lennon and Hart? A player who will be leaving in 2 years time for nothing, having barely featured. Why not be smart with it?

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